I think we (I know myself) refer to building as through the draft. Trading up for McCargo seemed to have been done out of necessity more than actually building for the future, IMO.

If you think signing guys like Whittle, Fowler, even Mitchell and Walker, and trading for Stroud for a 3 year run is building, then I guess we have different ideas about building the lines!!! Attempting to fix the problem with short term ‘solutions’ is not the best way to build. The best way to build is through the draft and that’s something we have NOT been doing….These past three drafts we’ve taken 1 DT, 1 LB and 1 DE in the first 4 rounds of the draft, along with 2 safeties, 3! CB’s, 1 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE and 1 QB. We’ve been trying to build the lines through FA, and that just isn’t the best way to sustain long term success…

What? Faneca was outstanding. Thomas Jones and Leon Washington combined for 1,760 rushing yards and 19 TD, even with Favre screwing everything up. Their line wasn’t the problem, and Faneca – while maybe not living up to his contract – was stellar.

I know your grades made Satele look pretty bad last year, but he has improved quite a bit. If you were to grade out his season this year I think you would be surprised. Dolphin fans love him and think he is one of their building blocks for the future. He was a second round pick just a couple years ago.

I was thinking the same thing. Also if Canada ever invades the U.S. we can all grab a gun from his personal arsenal to defend ourselves.

Hey Tripplet is a FA, how about him?

I was thinking about this when I read that the Cowboys weren’t going to retain him. He’d be cheap, and he would be returning to the style of D he played in Chicago, in which he flourished. I would not at all be upset if he found his way into our DT rotation

I definately think overhaul on the D-line. 4 guys on the line – 3 need to be replaced with Schobel in a rotation.

LDE – replace
DT – Williams to rotation
RDE – Schobel with a new comer for rotation

thats 3 out of 4 positions that i think need to be upgraded in order to have an effective d-line

I’d buy my girlfriend a jersey and MAKE her wear it.

I think WA would prefer Perry Fewell giving a eulogy

for the houston defensive coordinator? Wow

Why not, Kollar did coach two defensive lines that were a big part of their teams making it to the Super Bowl. He has a great reputation around the league.

McCargo worked out with Coy Wire for a week or two.

Maybe that wasn’t the right way to handle McCargo and don’t give me the "oh suck it up this is the NFL they are making millions." Coaching is a personal art of how to reach players, and get the most out of them.

I totally agree with that and maybe Kollar couldn’t find a way to motivate McCargo and his failed attempts actually worked in the opposite way and made him give even less effort or get frustrated and give up sometimes. The first example that pops into my head is Lindy Ruff ruining Kalinin’s potential. Stuff like that happens, but I won’t get too upset with Kollar for not being able to coax the best out of player who can’t motivate himself and flounders under the pressure of a coach criticizing him.

and you can’t tell me these guys are getting better is all I’m saying.

It shouldn’t be the job of a position coach to suddenly improve mediocre or worse players half way through their careers. Kollar came into Buffalo with all of those guys entering their late 20s and were bad players to begin with. You can’t coax talent out of talentless hustle guys.

but three years of watching the guy’s units are more telling than league reputation

I was only mentioning reputation because nobody should be surprised that he gets the occasional DC interview.

he’s probably a real nice corpse (I mean, guy) like our head coach.

So, I guess you don’t know much about Bill Kollar. He is the single most intense and fiery coach that Buffalo has. He makes Bobby April look like Dick Jauron.

obviously the front office and coaching staff don’t think talent’s an issue since everyone keeps getting extended around here

And isn’t it obvious that the front office and staff havn’t really done a good job with that stuff? I don’t think position coaches get much say when extensions are handed down, especially when he is in his first year with the team like Kollar was when the Bills extended Schobel and Kelsay and drafted McCargo.

The sack production in 2006 was nice, but wasn’t a large chunk of the production skewed by a couple of games early in the year (I seem to remember Denney getting to a gimpy Culpepper about 15 times down in Miami)?

The numbers were skewed by the 6 game performance against Miami, but that was the only game that was weird like that. Schobel had 14 sacks in 15 games (none in the Miami game) and Kelsay had his best season with 5.5 sacks (1 in the Miami game). Ryan Denney had his rookie season and then 3 years in a row of 3 of 4 sacks before Kollar got here. Then he has 6 sacks (granted 3 in the Miami game) his broken foot shortened season and 4 sacks this year. Kelsay has 7 sacks in 3 years before Kollar and 10 sacks in 3 years with Kollar. Is Kollar the problem or is the talent the problem?

So is Kollar a bad coach who somehow had phenominal success in Atlanta and St. Louis with great players, but can’t get the job done in Buffalo with what we have here, or is he your average to good position coach who succeeds when he has talent and fails when he doesn’t?

I mean, the guy is a position coach and we are blaming him for anything? We shouldn’t even be talking about him, we shouldn’t even know his name.

I do, too. He’s got a ton of talent. If scouts are looking at Cody (if he enters) and Raji as 3-4 noses, then McCoy would be mentioned in the same breath as Jerry as the best 4-3 DTs available THIS YEAR. There’s a chance he comes out…