Why Jauron Must Go
by Pietro Sirianni on Oct 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT
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Dick Jauron will be a very successful coordinator somewhere in the NFL someday. He is not a successful NFL head coach, nor will he ever be. He is not a leader of men. He does not inspire his players. His mediocrity is rubbing off on Trent Edwards and the Bills offense as a whole.
I want you to think of the most recent Super Bowl winning coaches; Belacheat, Cower, Dungy, Coughlin, and Tomlin. Did you ever see one of these coaches on the sideline looking like "boiled fish?" Did you ever see one of these coaches looking just to keep a game close? No! They are animated, on their players, and always looking to win. One even went so far as to cheat just to win.
Jauron may be intelligent, a good tactician, and a well-liked good person but he is simply not NFL head coach material. He must go before game 5 in order to give The Bills a shot at a play-off run. The Bills are loaded with potentially great players that are in jeopardy of being infected by Jauron's mediocrity which would only lead to another 7-9 season.
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My God, I cannot WAIT for the next 14 weeks to pass by with glacial rapidity.
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I can’t wait for Buffalo to win the next two games, watch a bunch of people talk about the playoffs, then watch Buffalo lose two games, call Jauron the worst coach ever, watch Buffalo win another two games and have some hope and so on and so forth until we end the season at 7-9.
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by kaisertown on Oct 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Weren’t you pretty optimistic during the offseason? Am I not remembering that right? Maybe you were only optimistic about Edwards, but you weren’t about the Bills’ chance to go 9-7 or better.
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I am not denying it. After last year I got real pissed off because Jauron was retained but I convinced myself that things could change, I started drinking the cool aid – I admit it, I was a cool aid drinker.
I also admitted in an earlier post that I was wrong during the off season when we had the whole debate about Cutler. I still don’t like Cutler as a person but man can he play football. Actually he sometimes forces things he shouldn’t but there is not substitute for the kohonas he’s got – With TO & Evans, man would I love to have Cutler now. I have not completely given up on Trent yet but he really needs to start showing some guts and throw it to our $15M duo of receivers.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
One of the best comments I have read in awhile.
In Detroit we have fans who went from suicide watch after Game #2 to playoff run after our “epic” victory over Washington.
These same guys insist we would be 3 and oh if Daunte Culpepper had started all three games.
Those guys provide high entertainment value but the routine gets old in a hurry.
By the way, beat the Jets!
Big werds make me feel stewpid.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with your assessment of Jauron, but
now is definately not the time to make the change. While we all think they should be 2-1, it’s not surprising they’re 1-2. Let’s see if they can win 3 out of the next 4 to get back in this thing. It’s doable. If they lose 3 out of the next 4, then I’d ax him.
Agreed, give him MIA and CLE, if he can't win them, give him the BOOT! (preferrably steel-toed)
They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills
but . . .
if we wait until we lose 3 out of the next 4, then our season is over and it’s too late for a change to be helpful.
by Flutie Flakes on Oct 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL – if we change our coach mid-season, we’re screwed, too. This isn’t baseball.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
but but but ...
the Rockies did it. LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no way that we make the playoffs this year, lets be serious here.
With the staff in place, the injuries piling up… No way in a million years
Changing the guard will only better prepare us for next year, which to me is enough of an upside to warrant doing it.
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FEED the BEAST!
Cower, Gruden, Schottenheimer are all available and I’m sure that they have clauses to get out of their TV gigs.
And I’d even add someone else to the list, Bill Parcells. Bills has a clause in his contract that he can walk when ever he wants and with the circus of celebrities buying into the team, he’d be justified in leaving. I’m sure that if he could be coach/gm he could be persuaded to come to buffalo.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
I’m not sure Parcells can leave that easily (assuming he would even want to). I think that his contract allowed him to leave no questions asked if there was a change in ownership, but that he had a certain window to make that decision – a window that would be now closed.
Why not also throw in Shanahan and Holmgren into the mix?
Parcells..........Hahahaha...you really want to see "The Player" blow his top :-)
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Screw TO, if we could get Parcells in here – let him sit out the season and collect his money.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
Sit out????? What would be the fun in that?
Watching that situation play itself out would be very entertaining.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Actually after what happened to T.O. last time and Keyshawn Johnson with Gruden, the NFLPA wrote it into the CBA that you can only suspend them for a certain amount of time and then you have to release them or let them come back.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Parcells could complete his trip around the AFCE. Why else would he be doing it again?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Action required now!
No, he must go. The sooner the better. He will contaminate the young players otherwise, and there are some very good young players. Jauron is a coordinator, not a head coach.
by Pietro Sirianni on Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
1 down
2 to go
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 5, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If your head coach can’t even get excitied over a questionable call, a big play, or even a touchdown…. why bother.
He might be a great x’s & o’s guy, but he doesn’t make his players better.
He might be a great x’s & o’s guy, but he doesn’t make his players better.
Get ready for people to tell you that he shouldn’t be blamed for that or to be commended if a player does get better….
~K
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They don’t equate. Being a fire-breathing ass-slapping hell-on-wheels head coach doesn’t necessarily mean you’re being helpful to your players. Neither does being a measured, unexciting, quiet head coach. They’re different styles and either can be effective for different players. Saying he doesn’t make his players better, to me, is 100% inaccurate. We’ve taken a lot of undrafted or late-drafted talent and turned into something special in the last 3 years. Guys that no other team thought was worthwhile. That’s called making your players better.
You can argue that Jauron doesn’t provide a big spark to the team on game day. I get that. But he most certainly has made players better.
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I would be surprised if ownership fires Jauron, after giving him an extension. That is a lot of money left on the table for an organization who typically does not spend a lot of money in regards to their coaching staff.
Ralph spends on players, he typically pinches pennies on coaches. I think Jauron gets the whole year, good, bad, or ugly.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
How much is Jauron making compared to Ryan, McDaniels, Sparano, Spags, Cable, Singletary, and even guys like Tomlin and Caldwell on their first contracts?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Found this which shows last years salaries. It has Jauron as 30th with only Brad Childress and Lane Kiffen below him. I doubt that has changed much.
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Wow. I thought he made as much as the first time head coaches. Guess I was wrong.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Right… one would assume he would get a raise when given a new contract.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Message to Ralph: You get what you pay for
Interesting facts:
Out of the 12 playoff teams last year, only 1 team paid 1.5M for their HC and that was Brad Childress but then again he has the best running back in the league. the average for the other 11 teams was 3.48M
Out of the 4 top teams that made it to the conference championship, the average HC salary was almost double at 2.9M
Another interesting fact was that 3 of the four top teams had a rookie HC (BAL, ARI, PIT) earning an average of 2.7M. Last year’s result tends to indicate that the “hot” new rookie coaches have a better chance at succeeding than the veteran proven ones. It’s too bad that I can’t find another site that has the historical info on salaries because it would be interesting to make a correlation over time to see if there’s a trend.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
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by keysh67 on Oct 2, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
good stats
It really is all about “you get what you pay for,” but unfortunately, as long as Ralph owns the team (which may mean as long as the team remains in Buffalo), he will never pay the market price for a head coach. He never has before, even with Levy, and he won’t start now. Rec’d.
John I.
I’m not so pessimistic JR, I believe that Ralph can change.
He might just surprise you.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
Wow
what a great argument. Cuz no coach with a poised demeanor has ever won anything? (Tony Dungy ring a bell).
My advice. Go read a book on coaching leadership and tell me where it says “you must yell or make a scene on the sideline to win championships.” None of you have a clue how he acts in house. The media is the quickest way to destroy a team. Keeping things between men in the lockeroom is the ONLY way to lead a franchise. Geesh….this topic comes up every year, and look at the OWNER and FO….dick Jauron is a great coach. There I said it. I will never think any differently
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by MARVelous on Oct 1, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
sad
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Yes. It’s quite sad that Marv spoke his opinion and you disagree with it.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 1, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re right.
I’m sorry Marv. You are entitled to your opinion.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
you are entitled to your opinion Marv but what evidence do you have jauron being a “great coach.” he had the one good year with the bears but outside of that there hasn’t been a sign of him being anything more than mediocre.
Dick, is that you?
But seriously, I did mention Dungy if you care to read the post again. While Dungy was a ‘bit more stoic than the others I mentioned at no time time did he seem like a “boiled fish.” Jauron excels at that look. Making a scene isn’t just for the sake of making a scene, it is the by-product of a coaches will to win boiling over. The players take the lead from their head coach. I have never seen footage of Lombardi looking disinterested.
by Pietro Sirianni on Oct 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
well I don’t agree that a “boiled fish” look means anything.
If he’s successful who cares what his style is? He doesn’t even have to show up on Sundays if he’s good enough if you ask me.
If he’s good then after 2/3 years a club should start winning – if not then, well he’s not good enough.
let’s stop reading so much into it – either he’s good or he isn’t – so far he isn’t. he’s got 14 more weeks to prove he’s got it. if not you all will get your wish.
so talk about something else. like big boobs
I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
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by J2 on Oct 1, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
by your own admission it should not take more than 2/3 years, given that this is his 4th year there should not be a 14 week leash left.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
no there shouldn’t – but there is.
so let’s stop whining and ride the train – got no choice
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by J2 on Oct 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats your definition of great ?
winning defines greatness . 8 and 8 not so much
Please the playoffs again in my life time
I would never say that he is not a leader of men because he sure gets a lot out of our defense. He has successfully created a team that is calm and stoic just like he is, that to me says something about his leadership. And I don’t think that his calm demeanor is the reason for mediocrity, I just think that he is a horrible game day coach and his lack of offensive knowledge is killing this team. He is unable to hire the proper guys around him to get the job done and his ultra conservative approach keeps biting him in the a$$
I believed that it was an extreme error to keep him another year so I can’t say that I am surprised at the results so far. A leopard cannot change it’s spots. IMO, if we can line up the right guy (and there are many great options available right now) then it’s very little risk to get rid of Jauron sooner than later, let the new guy get a feel for the team before next year.
The Bills a shot at a play-off run
Unfortunately that ship sailed last year when Ralph decided to keep Jauron on board.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
wow
is this the offseason?
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 1, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
How could this not be expected last year when Ralph announced that he was keeping Jauron in place and then Jauron said that he would keep Schonert in place and then when they traded Peters they said that Walker was able to take the LT spot??
The writing on the wall – was in permanent phosphorescent pen!!
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It's like shooting blanks
There is just something missing…
I understand where Pietro is coming from because it bugs me too that there doesn’t seem to be any sense of urgency on this team. It would be nice to see them really wanting to win, showing some fight. I was affraid of what TO would do but to be honest there’s a little part of me that would like to see him speak his mind and get things fired-up a bit.
As I said in another post today, the fans have definitely stepped up to the plate in recent years by selling games and the solid increase in season ticket base. I figure that they OWE us to at least give us the impression that they are trying and that it pisses them off to loose and I really don’t get that from this bunch.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
Boiled Fish
Now we must bash Jauron because of what you think he looks like? I’m sorry but I think it doesn’t matter what he looks like, or appears to be thinking on the sideline. THIS TEAM IS 1-2 EVERYONE, NOT 0-16. If I remember last season correctly, it doesn’t matter how you start the season. Missing the playoffs, and making the playoffs can be done in numerous ways. The only thing that matters is that you have more wins than 10 other teams in the conference at the end of the season. THAT’S IT!!
Honestly, on those coaches, I haven’t watched every single second of every single game they coached to know that they always knew what to do, or never punted to keep a game close. Maybe in Cleveland Belichek made some questionable coaching decisions for a bad football team. I don’t know for sure, do you? By the way, every single one of those coaches was either fired, or on the hot seat at one point in their careers, every one. That much I do know. Tom Coughlin was on the hot seat the year they won the Super Bowl!!
Can everyone please relax about the Bills and Jauron until the dust settles on this season.
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by willgarr15 on Oct 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
(Shakes head in disgust)
I feel like I’m sitting at the Weekend Update desk with Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers. SERIOUSLY?!?
It’s FanPosts like this that give all Jauron dissenters a bad name. I can’t put into words how ridiculous an argument it is to say someone is bad coach because they don’t pop a blood vessel on the sideline, whip a chair across the field, or get animated enough to show up in a Coors Light commercial. Dick Jauron’s stoic demeanor is completely irrelevant. Tony Dungy, Lovie Smith, Dick Vermeil, and Marv Levy all took their teams to Super Bowls without going postal on the sidelines. We’ve discussed this point ad nauseum. By all means, search Dick Jauron and demeanor in the search box at top right and I’m sure you’ll find the 500 conversations we’ve had on this topic in the past.
I don’t care if Dick Jauron is a “boiled fish.” He doesn’t deserve to be fired because he lacks animation. He deserves to be fired because he’s 57-77 lifetime. Because he’s 21-27 with the Bills. Because he led a team that finished the season 2-8 last year. Because he has shown countless times that he is unable to think on his feet, make mid-game adjustments, match wits with coaches around the league, prepare his team on a weekly basis, or even throw a challenge flag further than 3 feet. Because he punted on 4th and 1, went for it on 4th and 23, and punted on 4th and 10. And regardless of the fact that there is a substantial amount of data to prove those decisions to be wrong, responded to post-game questioning of his decisions with, “Absolutely. Absolutely that’s the right decision…”
There are plenty of valid, statistically backed reasons to argue that Dick Jauron deserves to be fired. Stop discrediting those arguments with this frivolous one.
So easy Marshawn Lynch can do it.
by thatguy34 on Oct 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
welcomed
thank you. Ultimately you are judged by wins and losses, but people are looking in all the wrong places.
What really irks me though, is that Jauron failed for the most part in Chicago…I expected him to take what he had learned and implement a new regime here in Buffalo. So far, it just hasn’t happened. And you know what fellas….90% of that is QB play. Whether it was JP Fizzle, or Trent-ative it just hasn’t worked. You can be mad at Jauron for gameday mgmt, stoick demeanor, etc….but I’ll say you have played way too much Madden and seen one to many Remember the Titans type movies.
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The problem is that we are all tired of drinking kool aid!
The guy is a bad head coach, period. His record proves it. His gameday snafoos prove it. Part of his job is to hire the right staff and he has not, so we can only blame him for that. Part of his job is to evaluate talent and he has failed at evaluating the QB or providing him with a coach & system to succeed in but eitherway, he is still accountable for it. If he was able to properly diagnose these things, maybe we would have been active in the Cutler sweepstakes in the off season (which by the way, I was wrong, this guy is clearly superior to Trent Edwards)
I am fed up of all the kool aid drinkers that keep shielding this guy from critique. In buffalo the head coach has a lot of power in regards to personnel, so if the product is flat, it’s ultimately his fault.
Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!
The only thing I disagree with you on is Levy. The man was VERY animated on the sideline.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 2, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Boiled Fish and then some
Coach Jaurons lack of enthusiasm is only part of the problem. As others have stated, his inability to win is the real problem. He shows little faith in his players, and continuously mismanages game situations. He does not coach to win. Defend him if you feel the need to. I stated before that I like him as a person but he is not a winning head coach and must go as soon as possible before the younger players start absorbing his mentality.
I don't know
but it could be tasty
~K
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It’s not. It’s smack dab in the middle of poaching and deep frying.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Prove me wrong
I would love it if Dick Jauron proved me wrong, and I would gladly eat my words. We all know that’s not going to happen. So we will watch the Bills beat a couple of terrible teams and think the leopard has changed his spots, but then the good teams will come and will beat us again, and the leopards spots will have remained the same. Hope will crucify us all.
respectfully disagree
Brian i agree with a majority of what you say but i respectfully disagree that people should stop with the fire jauron talk. if the bills drop the next 3, his seat will be more than hot and i wouldn’t at all be surprised if he was fired midseason. too much is made of his looks but thats the way things are when you’re a leader you’re supposed to exude confidence. most fans don’t think he exudes this confidence needed and it translates directly to the team. i don’t believe that it is a leap of logic there. i think it’s a perfectly acceptable topic to discuss, and if people are over the top in their dislike of jauron it is only because they are frustrated with the performance of the team, and in this league the head coach gets a lot of credit when the team wins and lots of credit when the team loses.
The Problem
How many coaches have come through One Bills Drive? The problem lies with the owner and the front office. I am not defending Jauron, he is probably the worst coach in the NFL. Ralph Wilson screwed the pooch when he let Bill Polian go. There was a plan there in place at the time and it worked. Ralph let him go because of money and control of the team. And before that and ever since this organization has been a joke. Until Ralph Wilson hires a G.M. and quality coach that are football people and sits back and enjoys then nothing will ever change no matter what coach you bring in. Ralph Wilson is about money and the bottom line. Successful teams have a plan and system in place and continue to prosper. If you fail to plan then you plan to lose. Simple.
Ralph Wilson screwed the pooch when he let Bill Polian go.
Amen to that!
I agree with your statement. I too believe that we need a strong GM and a strong coach, both proven with experience. Unfortunately, it probably will only happen when Ralph bites the bullet. And what scares me is that the new ownership will probably borrow a good deal of the $$ required to buy the team so they might not be in a position to spend the money for top guys.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
Why Jauron must go, you ask?
He goes to dispose of urine from the urinary bladder through the urethra to the outside of the body. In healthy humans, the process of urination is under voluntary control. It is to get rid of urea, which is toxic to the body if too much of it is in the bloodstream. Urea is formed from the deamination of excess amino acids in the body, a nutrient that makes up protein. It is also to get rid of excess salts, which can dehydrate a person.
In other animals, in addition to urination serving the purpose of expulsion of waste material, the act can serve to mark territory or express submissiveness.
Maybe he follows his animal instincts and goes to show the rest of the coaches that, yes indeed, he is still the head coach of the Buffalo Bills.
~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 1, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know I will be in the minority, but that was some funny stuff K....rec'd
In other animals, in addition to urination serving the purpose of expulsion of waste material, the act can serve to mark territory or express submissiveness.
Animals also roll over on their back to expose their genitals. Could that be how Jauron saved his job last year??
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Reading Joe’s last statement and then his signature makes it even funnier.
I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.
by thefourwinds on Oct 2, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Error in grammar
“Why Jauron must go.” was a statement in prelude to a discussion for the reasons pertaining there-to-with, not a question. But it was funny anyway.
by Pietro Sirianni on Oct 1, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
All the back and forth for what?
Its simple guys he is what his record says he is a little below average coach not good but not terrible take the emotion out of it and what’s has he accomplished here or chicago and detriot nothing at all……NOTHING…..I want jim fassel or mike sherman I knew Dick was a bad choice we would have made the playoff had we hired either one of them
Rrrroarrrr, rrroarrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
Sherman or Fassell are no better than Jauron.
They both have their shortcomings too.
My best case scenario for the Bills is after this season, Kubiak gets fired by texans.
Hire Shanahan as HC, Hire Kubiak as OC, Demote Jauron to DC .
I think Jauron cold learn enough about offensive philosiphy from Shanahan and Jauron where he might be a good HC next go round, he just does not understand enough about offense to help his hires on the offensive side of the ball when they screw up.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 2, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The last post should have said this
They both have their shortcomings too.
My best case scenario for the Bills is after this season, Kubiak gets fired by Texans.
Hire Shanahan as HC, Hire Kubiak as OC, Demote Jauron to DC .
I think Jauron could learn enough about offensive philosiphy from Shanahan and Kubiak where he might be a good HC next go round, he just does not understand enough about offense to help his hires on the offensive side of the ball when they screw up
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 2, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
If he had the choice
of staying on as DC at a HC pay or walking for a DB coach, he would be a fool not to stay on,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 3, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Really? You wouldn’t feel a little funny being demoted and not looking for a new job? The new coach wouldn’t feel funny have the old coach, who a lot of players like BTW, around. I mean it worked in Remember the Titans I guess.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I want jim fassel or mike sherman
Jeezalou, if you want the guy gone, at least shoot higher for his replacement.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we’re all just trying to coax you into divulging your preferred replacement if/when Jauron goes ;-)
So easy Marshawn Lynch can do it.
I’ve got about two dozen names on my constantly-updated list.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 2, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The list is real...
and it’s spectacular.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice Seinfeld reference.....I remember her went she was Penny Parker on MacGyver
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
Or in Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman….
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
My mistake
I was talking about who we interviewed when we initially hired dick moron 4 yrs back…..if you guys remember that we brought in Fassel and Mike sherman in for interviews and the final decision was between them 3 and also I’m very realistic about who ralph will pay to coach hear so all you guys talking about all these big name coaches can keep dreaming if he fire ol’ dick he will bring in a middle level persona and that’s not the grudens, shanahans, cowhers, and get this I read someone but parcells lol come on guys lets get real
Rrrroarrrr, rrroarrr like a dungeon dragon-Busta Ryhmes
Without hope what do we have?
I hope that things can change and that Ralph decides to make a run for it before he bites the dust. If not, if all he intends to do is be cheap and screw the pooch, then we might as well stay with Jauron. At least he’s a class “A” guy that has been pretty decent in the drafts.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
Dick won't be a successful anything in the NFL. Period.
What has this guy shown at all? the only thing I can think of is our Defense plays pretty hard at times, thats about it. So the only position I would ever think about, key work “think” would be a D-coordinator.
Tell that to Dave Wannestadt (Pitt Univ), Pete Carroll (USC) Butch Davis (North Carolina) and Nick Saban (Alabama), all four coaches were defensive coordinators , failed as NFL coaches, not enough coaching experience. In order to coach well in both college or pro, you have to a proven track record and Dick Jauron never had it. Please look at Lou Saban and Marv Levy’s(two successful Buffalo Bills coaches) coaching history, then compare that to Dick Jauron. Second, do not bring another teams persona here to Buffalo and expect it to work the same ( for example Wade Phillips / Denver; Mike Mullarkey / Pittsburgh; Gregg Williams / Tennessee) . Third, Jauron was hired as a front or Puppet, because Marv Levy wanted to coach the team from the press box as General Manager while picking his type of players such as John McCargo, Donte Whitner and Trent Edwards. You want the truth, well let’s tell the truth csc06258
Third, Jauron was hired as a front or Puppet, because Marv Levy wanted to coach the team from the press box as General Manager while picking his type of players such as John McCargo, Donte Whitner and Trent Edwards
That’s some heavy stuff your smoking…
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
Levy has a productive rescord in the CFL! His record in the NFL was virtually identical to Jauron’s when the two were hired.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 2, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Give Jauron the opportunity to coach.
Before you fire Dick Jauron, please give him an opportunity to prove himself as a coach. The season is not over, anything could happen. During Jauron’s tenure, Buffalo does not come alive until the Month of October. During his watch, all the rookies, 2nd year players and valuable free-agents, have stepped up to the challenge of starting and making an impact on this team. As all the fans notice, he looks confused, befuddled, and shows a lack of discipline when coaching on the sideline. You must understand Jauron does not have the experience like a Bill Parcells, Mike Holmghren or Marty Schottenheimer. When Marv Levy ( the General Manager) hire him, Levy wanted Dick Jauron to be a “puppet coach”, and coach the team from the press box by drafting players such as Trent Edwards, Donte Whitner and John McCargo (Example: Tom Cable/ Oakland ; Wade Phillips/ Dallas). When Levy stepped down as General Manager, fired the Turk Schonert, install the no-huddle offense, Jauron began to coach his way. These bandwagon fans are judging him on his past performances and what he did in Chicago. Because Jauron does not go into a frenzy or bark up and down the sideline like a maniac, this attitude and action is suppose to show, he can coach a football team, I don’t think so. It takes preparation,strategy, and hungar to beat any opponent in any sport. If Buffalo keep playing with intensity and fire in their belly, they will win some big games. But they have to believe and do not doubt, everything will like clockwork. From this list of coaches everyone else posted, Cohwer, Holmghren, Gruden or Schottenheimer, they are not coming here to coach Buffalo. Especially if they are not going to use the no-huddle offense in their attack. Cohwer already announced he wants to coach in North Carolina where his family is at. Holmghren wants power; to coach and be the General Manager. Holmghren is not a genius, he could paint my house in the summer time for lower wages. I can not forget Jon Gruden, he only won a SuperBowl with Tony Dungy’s team in Tampa Bay. Right now, let’s give Jauron a chance to coach for the amount of money the Bills are allowing him to coach .
Hmmm...
I seem to recall that Bill Cowher had several terrible seasons in Pittsburgh before one the NFL’s great team emerged.
Jon Gruden won the Superbowl in his first season and look at the team he left the Bucs with this year.
I am not trying to equate Dick to either of these but there is no guarantee that a new HC will do any better than him. People on here seem to be assuming that getting a “proven” HC automatically means we will get to the play offs next year. With Dick we can still get to the play offs this year.
One other point, in 1986 a new manager / Head Coach was appointed to a team, in the next four years that team played good, bad and ugly. They won nothing. The manager / head coach was one game away from being sacked. The team won that game, went on to win the Cup and over the next 19 years the manager / head coach has become the most successful manager / head coach in the history of the club, the league and one of the most successful in the world. He also became a knight of the realm.
I am not saying that this is what will happen with Dick, but it is possible it could happen; he could also go the way of Wilf McGuiness. (“Wilf who?” I hear you say, “Exactly” I respond)
The past is fixed, the future is unknown, try dealing with the present!
I want a new head coach.
Who undertands Trent is a WC QB and NOT Jim Kelly.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 3, 2009 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Fire Jauron
How many 7-9 seasons must we as fans have to sit back and endure ? Jauron has shown nothing. Maybe a lot of the Bills mediocracy is Ralph’s fault because he is too cheap to hire a real coach or for that matter a real head office, But, Jauron has to show something better than 7-9 season year after year. Of course in the ways of Ralph Wilson, AVP would get promoted to Head Coach. Maybe that is not such a bad thing, could it get any worse? Eventualy we should have the waterboy promoted to offensive coordinator.
Don't you hate when you're right sometimes!
Yes, I was right. Jauron must go, and he is the human equivalent of boiled fish. To make matters worse, I am now wondering if he has ruined Edwards forever. Edwards has absolutely no confidence and seems all together confused. All of Edwards failures can’t be put on Jauron though. The offensive game planning has been awful. The no-huddle does not work. Our rookie line can not handle a pass rush. We have two great running backs and we are not utilizing them. Our defense is being overworked again because of it.
THIS IS A COACHING TRAIN WRECK!
PLEASE RALPH, EAT THE MONEY AND BRING IN A PROFESSIONAL COACH!
I am now wondering if he has ruined Edwards forever. Edwards has absolutely no confidence and seems all together confused
I’vce been calling for Jauron’s head for a few years now but I doubt that you can blame Edwards’s inadequacies on him as well. What I blame him for is for not bringing in a suitable backup in the off season, now we’re stuck.
I honestly think Edwards is just not as good as what we thought.
I also blame Jauron for thinking that we could get buy with such a rookie line without bringing in a veteran Tackle.
Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!
What if Edwards is costing Jauron his career?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 5, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
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