Bills lose linebackers Mitchell, Buggs for season
by Brian Galliford on Oct 12, 2009 12:49 PM EDT
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PrintBuffalo Bills head coach Dick Jauron told assembled media early Monday afternoon that linebackers Kawika Mitchell and Marcus Buggs will miss the remainder of the 2009 season. Both players injured knees in Sunday's 6-3 loss to the Cleveland Browns and were carted off the field.
For the time being, the loss of Mitchell leaves Keith Ellison as Buffalo's most experienced starter at linebacker. Until Paul Posluszny returns, Ellison will likely assume middle linebacker duties, just as he did when Mitchell departed yesterday.
There is, however, good news on Posluszny. Jauron mentioned that Posluszny is now "week-to-week," a designation held by safeties Donte Whitner and Bryan Scott. Chris Brown of BuffaloBills.com mentioned on the team's official pre-game show yesterday that Posluszny had been cleared for everything but practice (and contact drills), but was lifting weights as he normally does. The news could indicate that Posluszny is closer to being cleared for practice.
One other injury note: OT Jonathan Scott, who injured an ankle yesterday, is day-to-day. He should not miss significant time.
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Expect to sign a couple new players off someone’s practice squad. Alvin Bowen might have a shot of being re-signed.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
This is the problem- can we stop freaking signing practice players? If we actually want to do something, sign Derrick freakin Brooks or trade away worthless players like parrish for someone that can actually play.
i’m not yelling at you, Matt. Just the mindset of OBD.
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop calling for Brooks
There’s a reason NO ONE signed him. The guy is washed up. Might was well keep signing younger guys to see if they show anything.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. The reason no one wants to sign him is because he wants a guaranteed starter position and a little extra $$. Well considering we no longer have any real starters at LB, and that we’re playing people left and right off the PS, we have both the $$ and the spot to offer him.
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! Guess what! You can say “it’s actually $$” without saying “You have no idea what you’re talking about.”
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 12, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
think he said that cause dude said brooks was washed up. brooks may only have a few years left, but there solid years
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I know why he said it. That’s not the point.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not speaking for the dude
but i’m assuming it’s just frustrated, thinking every bills fan is frusturated, like 40 year old virgin frusturated
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Worse than that. He knew he’d have sex eventually. How many of us actually know the Bills will ever be good again?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 12, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If someone is erroneous, and he says STOP DOING THIS based on erroneous information, then why can’t i tell him its erroneous?
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i just think you like saying erroneous lol jj dude
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after i said it the first time, i definitely couldn’t stop.
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i too am a JJ......
infact i am a JJJ
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by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 12, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm always joking
except when i’m serious
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THANK YOU!!!
i’ve only been saying to sign brooks OTA’s and that when we had 3 starting linebackers
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I know you aren’t yelling at me. I don’t think there is a better option out there right now, really. Derrick Brooks maybe but why would he sign here and why would the Bills pay him what he wants when he isn’t any better than some practice squad guy probably?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 12, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guessing Derrick Brooks isn’t looking to join this sinking Bills ship for a few dollars.
And if Parrish is worthless, why is anyone giving up anything for him?
what r u talking about?
teams will be lined up around the block to get an undersized 4th wr who loses 15yds every other kick return and muffs the rest of them with a 4 million $ contract;year. i bet we get 2 1st round picks for him
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because he’s a niche player with a giant contract. He used to be an incredible punt returner, but no longer. Someone might know the actual figures, but i believe he gets paid more than $3 mil a year to fumble away punts.
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i know dude
i was being sarcastic….damn cpu not conveying my tones lol
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I was responding to Pistol, not to you, trust me, i got your sarcasm.
by quantumuprising on Oct 12, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What is the point of signing Brooks now? This team is going nowhere, I doubt he would even want to come here at this point, what would he have to gain? He would be better off sitting and seeing if another contender will give him a call later. Seems like a better idea then jumping on this train wreck.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Love the depth on this team.
We should draft some more DBs so that by the end of the season we can start 11 of them.
hahah twoeightnine
if you can think of a funny shirt to make about that I will definitely buy it as a reminder of how terrible this era has been. If anything in the future will make me laugh about this time period for the BIlls it will be the those endless friggin DBs!!
We got your back Leodis!
by poz on Oct 12, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
could be worse
could spend 3 consecutive 1st round picks on WR and not have any of them 3 years later
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Linebacker Depth
I don’t think there are too many teams that are decent 5 deep at LB.
Poz, Digiorgio, Buggs, Mitchell
That’s a pretty devastated position.
Digi was gone before the season had even started.
And they did nothing about it.
by twoeightnine on Oct 12, 2009 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But he was still in their long-term plans
and they weren’t sure if he could come back after being placed on PUP.
Point is still, not too many teams are decent 4 deep at LB.
They knew it was season ending immediately. Back in July. That’s why he was waived and not placed on the PUP.
by twoeightnine on Oct 12, 2009 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i understand that you have to write posts about this season but....
i’m already looking to next year. i’ve got a 4 step program for buffalo right now. 1 trade owens, he’s been a good soilder, you know he’s pissed but he’s kept his mouth shut, might as well let him go to a contender, he’s not going to be here next year anyways, might as well get a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him, 2 play evens, mcgee, stroud and shobel sparingly, there’s no point getting them hurt this season if we’re looking twards next season (i’m not saying sit them for the rest of the year, but cut down there reps, get ellis, maybin, johnson, lankster, corner, harris, johnson, hardy, and byrd some experience. 3 NEW COACHING STAFF/GM AT END OF SEASON both positions can be filled by shanahan. 4 Draft Clausen/Bradford (sorry trent, your not bad, but your not good) an O-lineman, a line backer and DT in the 1st and 2nd rounds and again in the late rounds. DB’s are actually pretty good. we need run support and offense. we need players to step right in(hence drafting them in the 1st 2 rounds) and depth (hence drafting the same positions in the 5-7th rounds excluding QB) We’ve waited 9 years for the playoffs, what one more year? and i’m sick of this “our goal is to make the playoffs” BS at the begining of the season, our goal should be to start winning championships, we can start with an afc east and move from there. If our goal isn’t championships we might as well fill out an aplicaion to join the cfl
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not too many people were interested in him as a free agent so why now would a team trade a 2nd or 3rd for him exactly?
Because teams like the Bears & Ravens know they could use a #1 WR to give them the edge over their division opponents
Other than those two teams, I’m not sure who would take him… maybe we could re-sign him next year.
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- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills
might be pushing it
1 year averaging 3 grabs a game and keeping his mouth shut is impressive, 2 years is impossible
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bears still have a 2nd round pick…..and for some reason i can see cutler and owens getting along
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ESPN Rumor
I don’t have Insider, but i saw the headline on espn.com about buffalo possibly trading TO to the bears for a draft pick. Anyone care to elaborate?
According to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, the Bills might want to consider what the market would offer for Terrell Owens.
It makes a lot of sense for the Bills to dangle T.O., he notes. Owens is in the last year of a one-year, $6.5 million contract. If Buffalo were to trade Owens, they could get back a mid-round draft pick for a player who will be free to walk away from the organization after this season in a year when the Bills are no longer viewed as a playoff contender.
What’s more, the Bills would save about two-thirds of his salary — over $4 million, a nice tidy sum for a franchise that has looked for alternative ways to generate revenue (and he’s already helped them sell-out for the rest of the year). Schefter believes it would take a playoff-caliber team that needed a wide receiver to help make this trade work. But a team such as Chicago, which could use a play-making wide receiver to help unseat the first-place Minnesota Vikings, might find it worthwhile to part with a mid-round pick for an offensive playmaker that can help make a difference this season.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Some insight on what that would get us
My rankings have changed from the beginning of the college season, and I took a look at what an Owens trade could get us. This assume the Bears pick about 22nd and my rankings are in the ballpark.
4th Round BPA:
-Jamar Cheney, LB, Mississippi State
-Lindsey Witten, DE, UConn
-Ed Dickson, TE, Oregon
-Pat Angerer, LB, Iowa
-Taylor Price, WR, Ohio
5th Round PBA
-Nate Bynam, TE, Pitt
-Darian Stewart, SS, South Carolina
-Tim Hiller, QB, Western Michigan
-Roger Safford, OT, Indiana
i seriously doubt with his stats so far he’d garner a first round pick.
by quantumuprising on Oct 13, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody says he would
and it’s not because of his stats either.
He’s 35 and on a one year deal. Of course, nobody is going to give up a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick for him.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Not what I was saying
If the Bears pick 22nd, that puts them in the middle of each round, by which I provided the above list from the 4th and 5th rounds.
i understand that you have to write posts about this season but…. i’m already looking to next year.
My guess is you’ll be treated to both over the next several months.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 12, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
already am
my favorite articles are about the college prospects, i’ve gotta give the rumblings there props, if i didn’t like em i wouldn’t keep coming back
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he was only on the FA market for 1 day or 2
Because he has keep his mouth shut, and contenders who need a #1 reviever who they don’t have to resign at the end of this year with emense talent for a 2nd round pick is a steal. Look at what the jets gave up for edwards, and owens hasn’t recently punched out lebron james freind (allegedly). Plus owens knows how much money he can make in an uncapped year if he produces and keeps his nose clean, he’d do it in buffalo if our offense had a pulse. like i sad 2nd rounders a deal for some team
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Good thing we were all wrong about having no LB depth this off-season….wait
I hope they don’t bring Poz back until he’s 110% healthy. There’s no need to put him back out there at this point.
We should be looking for two new starting LB’s next year. Mitchell will probably be even slower coming off this injury. More holes to fill, as always….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
exactly
that was one of my points about limiting our good starters reps, there’s no point in getting them hurt in hope of a 6-10 record this season, have the healthy and hungry for next season
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Says who?
Because we drafted him? I like how Corto was the guy who came in yesterday, not Harris. Says a lot about Harris, doesn’t it?
A lot of Bills fans were saying this about Bowen last year. Why should we believe Harris will be much different and why should we have any expectations or rely on late round picks so much?
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
harris’s value is a utility back up, filling in at safety or lb as needed, it frees up a roster spot by having that kind of flexability. like Back up lineman that can play guard and tackle (not that we’d know anything about lineman playing effectivly
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And Takeo has been solid for SF since leaving here….go figure
Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!
if he was still here he'd have a broken ankle or something........
just bet on it.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Or have gotten the Oink Oink along with Polio and possibly blown out both knees and a shoulder on the same play
Our people just CANNOT stay healthy, I think we need a whole new Strength and Codiitoning staff
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
well
While the Jets were doing 2 adays in the middle of nowhere, new york this offseason, and the 49ers were slaving away up some huge hill, Jauron was giving our players the day off. So does potential lack of toughness factor in? I wonder.
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No it doesn’t matter. A guys knee gets blown out and he isn’t tough enough? I don’t buy that for a second. These aren’t nagging injuries for the most part.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but he was terrible in Philly. go figure.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 12, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrible?
He put up just as good of numbers as he did here except for his first season.
by twoeightnine on Oct 12, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
DeMeco Ryans (sp) please.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 12, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, good luck there
The Texans aren’t letting their defensive leader go and even if they did, he’d be going to the highest bidder, which we all know wouldn’t be Buffalo…
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Oct 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can we put Jauron on IR to coach all these guys back to health?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
Good point- he’s got that brain thing.
(Someone, please finish the Futurama reference)
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 12, 2009 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I already DID!
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
well the way we draft LBs...
we get guys that are as big as CBs anyway.
Tired of the undersized, underachieving, underathletic LBs.
We’ve had years of great LBs for so long. Since Spikes and Fletcher left, it’s been a freakin’ black hole.
Can we scrap this defensive scheme?
i was hoping
that we’d get lauianitus last year, he was a steal in the 2nd round. or conner 2 years ago.
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forgot Crowell
the last credible LB we’ve had.
I love Poz bue he has now been hurt 2 out of 3 seasons.
At some point it’s no longer a trend.
Maybe we should have not picked Marshawn and traded up to get Willis a few years back.
agree
and we should’ve gotten claddy last year instead of mckelvin….hind sight
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^ agreed … just pointing out that it’s more than the coaches that are to blame.
we don’t have the players at key positions (LB, QB, OL mostly) and we’re suffering for it now.
we go out and get waiver wire and practice squad guys instead of veterans who not only can help but can be good in the locker room. The Pats and other teams take cast offs year after year and maintain a winning locker room, so why can’t we?
it’s a combination of being cheap and being fearful of rocking the boat and the same old same old mentality. It’s lame and tiresome and needs to be eliminated.
But of course, the last time we went down this path we got Gregg Williams instead of Fox or Lewis.
We took Dick Jauron over Mike Sherman (who is probably a better pro than college coach).
So, I have no faith that even the front office can find anyone, coaching, GM, scouting, or otherwise.
Bummer. :*(
we go out and get waiver wire and practice squad guys instead of veterans who not only can help but can be good in the locker room. The Pats and other teams take cast offs year after year and maintain a winning locker room, so why can’t we?
Not during the season they don’t.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 12, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
First, they haven’t signed him yet. Second, one time does not a pattern make. Third, the only team he will play for is the Pats.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 12, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
First, they haven’t signed him yet.
They did last year. So they’ll soon being making it a pattern.
They also did it last year with Rosevelt Colvin.
by twoeightnine on Oct 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Fletcher, Pat Williams
It’s too bad that the Bills got rid of Pat Williams years ago, rather than Eric Moulds. Not to mention losing London Fletcher has hurt tremendously! Oh well, it’s not like the Bills know what they are doing!
Pat WIlliams. Antoine Winfield. Big mistakes by the franchsie. Letting London Flecter a 33 year old aging undersized MLB who got paid 25 million over 5 years go is not a mistake.
williams was far and away
the dumbest move this franchise made.
That and not draft ngota.
but hey, 6’4’ 320 lb. pro bowl run stuffing tackles can be found in smaller packages like Larry Tripplet and are really a waste of cap space anyway …
not the worst move
drafting mckelvin instead of claddy, lynch instead of revis, whitner instead of cutler, mccargo instead of mangold, losman instead of steve jackson, mcgahee insead of dallas clark…..you get the picture, our talent scouts are terrible
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Not the scouts
It’s the decision makers. The scouts will potentially pull for a guy they scouted, but they are mostly fact-oriented. The front office folks pull the trigger. They same scouts unearth really talented folks in the later rounds. They scouts are doing their job. Just need a GM now to do his.
WAIT A SECOND!
All is not lost…
NFL.com is reporting that the Bills lost Mitchell and Boggs
Maybe Buggs is fine. Now the Bills need to find a replacement for their HOF 3rd Baseman.
Sweet home Orchard Park.
jb
by Undee on Oct 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Now the Bills need to find a replacement for their HOF 3rd Baseman.
I just spit my drink across the room (I’m not kidding, I really did). Great line.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Oct 12, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
no, these guys i listed didn’t have the best upside, there were the best player available when buffalo drafted (or in mccargo’s/losmans case, traded up for) the players we drafted were supose to be the ones with upside, how’d that turn out?
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We have a hard time developing talent
because we are consistantly putting them into positions where they do not have time to develope. Not only that but the guys we draft are put into a team that has forgot how to win and honestly act like they don’t care.
"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-
yesterday
had a very “I dont care” attitude to it. It started on the field and it crept its way up into the stands. Honestly fans just dont care anymore. Its too hard believing in something that YOU KNOW we’ll F up. There is no excuse to lose a game like that… but its not just yesterday this team takes on its personalities of their coaches and owner. NO EMOTION!!! what a shame… such high hopes when you look at this team on paper there should be no reason we cant compete…
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Has anyone here questioned whether it might be that field turf?
Having experienced it myself, it seems like it lends itself to tons of CL-band injuries.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 12, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
I question it…..now
How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home winemaking course, and I forgot how to drive?
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Oct 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
My money would be on the facts that (a) Buffalo fields small defenders and (b) said small defenders are left on the field for a ridiculous number of snaps each week by a dysfunctional offense.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
Agreed, Field Turf is no where the knee wrecking hamstring destroying surface that astro-truf was, and I have played on both
Mitchell and Buggs would have gotten hurt on grass regardless, they style of the injury would happen regardless of the surface
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
For the record, I was half-joking
Although the IR list for the team has been pretty long since it was installed.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Oct 12, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you may have been joking – but there’s a lot to it. There have been many studies done and concluded about the increased risk of leg injuries with field turf and astro turf – most baseball players have completely stopped training on any kind of turf in the offseason and instead train exclusively on grass.
all that being said, the game was meant to be played on grass anyways =)
by quantumuprising on Oct 13, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
But but JA has a new fitness program ready for me!
I can get injured and learn to suck at football.
by twoeightnine on Oct 12, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
RAC or BAC?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 13, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
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