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With multiple season-ending linebacker injuries on Sunday, the Bills brought in seven of them from tryouts on Tuesday.

LB Chris Draft was signed. So was S Todd Johnson. Both spent time with the St. Louis Rams in 2008. They replace linebackers Kawika Mitchell and Marcus Buggs on the active roster.

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I assume Todd Johnson was signed to replace Nic Harris at safety?

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by dzil on Oct 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That would be my guess as well. Probably to ease the ST burden of Palmer and Harris too.

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by kaisertown on Oct 14, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft was a starter in St. Louis and was cut at the start of the season because

they asked him to take a salary cut from his 1.1 mil a year to $750k a year (league minimum for a vet player with his years of experience) He offered where he took pay cuts in the past and thought the team could look elsewhere for the money. They said no they needed him to take a cut. He was then released in a surprise move right before the season started.

He is a stand-up guy with good leadership experience. Not the biggest guy in the world, but plays with his experience and smarts to get ahead. Certainly he would be a good back up and eventually could be starting in a few weeks.

Bills problems at LB will continue through the season and off-season because Mitchell (like Digorgio) will need surgery and more than a year’s recovery time. I believe he won’t play effectively again for this organization. Hence we have very little experience or star talent at any of our LB spots. Poz possibly but hasn’t done enough to keep himself healthy to be a difference maker on the field.

Too bad the Bills fooled around with free agency and could only sign Pat Thomas. He was such a bad signing for us that he couldn’t even make it on the team a second time with this past workout. We should of had Pisa Tinoisiamoa who went to the Bears. This guy has experience at both the strong-side and MLB spots. Why we couldn’t have bucked up more for him outside of the Bears is beyond me and a true indication where OBD is trying to get guys “cheap”. I know that Pisa said that he’d rather have gone to a team where he had to earn his starting LB spot rather than give it to him what Buffalo was going to be doing. I think that is “Bull” and just another way of saying I didn’t get paid enough.

by dabillsr1 on Oct 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally agreed

I figured we needed 2-3 quality LB’s this offseason, before the Mitchell injury. That remains the same now. What a pathetic position this was for the Bills this year and recently…

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by Kurupt on Oct 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

We have a quality BACKUP in Ellison!

"You play to win the game, you don't play to just play it" - Herm Edwards

by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pisa's been out

since the first play of the first game. We would have been just as frustrated.

by Ono on Oct 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t say mitchell’s injury will require a full year – some knees respond better than others. he could be back in 7-8 months.

but that’s just speculation.

by quantumuprising on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!

Yes, We got some players from the Rams… What a great organization. They can instill a winning attitude around here. And, they are probably very good, since they couldn’t make the Rams roster. You know what a wealth of talent their roster consists of!

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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

if it wasn’t apparent the Bills threw in the towel before, it is now.

by thejimbo on Oct 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know right. God. Why can’t the Bills sign Junior Seau? WTF? /sarcasm

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 13, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't knock Draft yet...

It’s quite possible he ends up in the middle allowing Poz to fill outside.. That was his position once upon a time in Atlanta, which let Brookings move out to his own “natural” outside..
Regardless, he gives us veteran depth if nothing else at both….

by Cinga on Oct 13, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the problem… We need QUALITY backups, if that wasn’t evident this year. If Draft was a quality player, he wouldn’t be a free agent one-quarter of the way through the season…

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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ease up guys!

Draft was a quality player for several years in Carolina before he signed as a FA with the Rams a couple years ago. He has experience at all 3 LB positions and is a very intelligent football player. We’re down to bare bones because 3 of our top 5 LB’s are out. Todd Johnson is ho-hum, but it’s not like there’s all that much in the way of impact talent in the “off the street” FA category. They’re familiar with the our scheme and I can’t imagine Johnson is anything more than a special teams/depth until Whitner and Scott get back.

by live6453 on Oct 13, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta, not Carolina, right?

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody have the phone number to reserve Superbowl tickets

I want to beat the rush that happens anytime we sign somebody. Oh wait, too soon?

Why do today, when it can wait til tomorrow; the games on!

by UtahBillsFan on Oct 13, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a bit confused by the signing of a safety

Why wasn’t this done immediately after the Whitner and Scott injuries? What’s the point now? Both should be back relatively soon. Unless the team had Harris solely at SS during this time, and now he’s back to OLB, it’s a bit odd.

Then again, they never hesitate to add DB’s when possible…

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by Kurupt on Oct 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They did, indeed, have Harris solely at SS. That’s why Corto went in ahead of him against Cleveland.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why did they do this 2 weeks later?

Typical Bills move, a few weeks later than it should have been.

What was the point, really, of taking reps away from Harris at OLB (his pro position) to make him an emergency backup SS instead of just signing a safety to fill-in? I guess Justin Jenkins and Corey McIntyre are too important to our amazing ST’s units….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 13, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roster spots maybe?

They didn’t have a roster spot before the double trouble with LBs.

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by patamunzo on Oct 14, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right. The only reason I can think of is they thought Whitner would be back sooner. It’s the only one that makes any sense.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they knew he was having surgery...

and then when he had it, you’d think they’d have made a move….

I just can’t wait for the day we have a proactive front office and coaching staff. How refreshing that could be!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 15, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH NOES! WHY DIDN’T WE SIGN ALL-PROS?

/sarcasm

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 13, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Junior Seau making a comeback with the Pats.

Derrick brooks probably would have more of a difference as a stopgap for us than Chris Draft, he just would have cost more.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 14, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Remember now.

Cost is a dirty 4 letter word for Mr. Wilson.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 14, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not true. Brooks isn’t signed with anybody for a reason. Besides why would Brooks want to come to a sinking ship anyways?

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 14, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I’m not saddened by these two moves, but I’m left feeling like there was more to be had, that there was something else we could have done. That’s the main thought I’m left with. Draft and Johnson are just “guys”. They’re just guys. Not that we could have reeled in a true replacement for Kawika at this point in the season, but I’m a little disappointed we didn’t make a move to get someone at least a little bit better. :(

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by Dyl on Oct 14, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so we lose 2 LBs ...

and we sign a Safety and an LB?

Color me confused.

And regarding Seau, it kills me when some who post on this blog think Brooks is washed up and yet a team sign Seau who is 4-5 years older has more wear and tear on him but is still valued by a winning organization.

But hey, we have the fundamentally sound Keith Ellison and we can pick up practice squad guys from losing teams better than any other franchise!!!! Playoffs here we come!!!!

by sabre74kkn on Oct 14, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Playoffs?

PLAYOFFS?

PLAYOFFS?—-Jim Mora

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by the Uncommon Denominator on Oct 14, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

again, the signing of a Safety was done in order to allow Nic Harris to move into a backup LB position. He had been pegged as backup SS after injuries there.

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by dzil on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guys response was great.
murtorious says:
October 13, 2009 10:45 PM
tell me Draft plays some OT too.

any rumors if we are ever going to sign a damn OT?I guess it makes no sense because they would have to learn our complex hi-octane offense, and might have multiple false start penalties during home games as a result.

by kgun201 on Oct 14, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll add

he’d have to be physically fit enough to operate in the no-huddle, despite the fact that our no huddle is a hurry-up offense. =)

by kgun201 on Oct 14, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is not

is NOT a no huddle.

by kgun201 on Oct 14, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think you meant is not a hurry up.

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by dzil on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think you meant the No Yardage offense :-)

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait, wait, wait

So we’re in desperate need of depth so we go to 2 guys that weren’t good enough for the St. Louis Rams? Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this? Let’s grab players from the only team that might be worse than we are right now…. that were cut from that team! Haha.

And why do we insist on making Safeties into Linebackers?

by nateinrochester on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There’s nobody left! Nobody! Who are they gonna sign? Brooks? He’s so old they should just warm up another IR spot. The best we could hope for is a trade with some team that has an excess of LB talent, but we’d probably get molested on that deal because we didn’t have enough depth to begin with.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Brooks is so old ...

what does that make Seau? Ancient?

by sabre74kkn on Oct 14, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Seau is the exception, not the rule. Plus he’s worked with the Pats before. Plus, there are fewer demands on him with the Pats’ 3-4 scheme than there would be on Brooks in the Bills’ 4-3.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Brooks?

What in God’s name is the problem w/ signing Brooks? He obviously has plenty of experience in our system and was always a quality player w/ good character. Does he have some ailment/injury that we don’t know about? If that’s not the case, WHY, WHY, WHY, didn’t they look him over back when Poz went down? Is it the almighty dollar AGAIN?

Now we are hurting in the LB corp badly and this is the solution?

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by Pocono Bob on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What’s the point? Other than if they feel he is a veteran that would come in and help some of the young guys, which I don’t know is the case. Futhermore, he probably wants at least a 2-year contract. I am not on board with passing these out for older guys right now… Misewell save the money and invest it in a sub-30 year old next year. That mentality is probably the only thing I agree with OBD on… Get guys younger than 30 years old, although at some point, you need to fill out your roster (backups, etc.) with quality veterans.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry but this signing is not a good one.

I know that the waver wires are slim, but the team should have looked deeper. A 10 year vet at LB? Another Stanford guy who was cut by the Rams?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 14, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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