Where's Maybin?

by dzfromny on Oct 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT Comment 36 comments

How much playing time has Aaron Maybin been getting? With 3 tackles in 5 games it can't be much. Is he another wasted #1 draft pick?

I'm no expert in football but it seems with our troubles at LB, is it possible to move an undersized DL into the LB position and at least try to get our money's worth out of him?

A number 1 draft pick should be having more of an impact on a team than what Maybin has been so far.

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Jauron has made it abundantly clear that Maybin will not play LB.

And no, he’s not a “wasted” pick. Not over the long haul, anyways. His athleticism and work ethic remain intact. Just as everyone knew all along, he needs time. Next year, with a year in the weight room, is when he should break out. The issue is that Buffalo hasn’t been able to get him into advantageous rush situations because we can’t stop the run…

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well said. I can never understand how people are so sure a player is a wasted pick after one season....or after 4 games.

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by Joe P. on Oct 13, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially when that player was one of the youngest guys in the entire draft. People always bring up Orakpo (for good reason), but I wonder how good of a rookie season he would have had two years ago when he was Maybin’s age? Was Orakpo undersized when he was 21?

You sign a first rounder to a five year contract and you’re not drafting for immediate impact. You want the best player over the life of the contract.

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by kaisertown on Oct 14, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Orakpo has looked very good thus far

Let’s hope Maybin has an impact at some point this year. So far, he’s just looked overmatched and unable to beat OT’s.

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by Kurupt on Oct 14, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Orakpo is also playing LB

by Parrish11rules on Oct 14, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am a PSU alumni and watched Maybin all season in 2008 and was one of the few disappointed PSU alum and Bills fans when they drafted him. He needed 1 more year in college. And he probably won’t be effective until 2011. I think he is a 3 year project. BUT…I do think he will be good at some point, just not this season or next.

by Berg79 on Oct 14, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you.

I really wanted Oher, he could have helped us now. Man is Oher tough and barring Injury, he is going to be a good one for a long time.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just think if we took Oher, Wood, and Everette Brown in that order, nasty!

by csc06258 on Oct 15, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

after less than half a season

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by billsoferie on Oct 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

again, the bills draft another project that will take a couple years when they need production right now. Maybin is best suited for a 3-4 linebacker, and Orakpo was the no brainer pick. If they wanted a 4-3 linebacker, hand in the ground it was Orakpo. He ran just as fast as Maybin and weighs 20 more pounds. Doesn’t anyone get Maybin was fast because he played college at 220-230? Thats the weights of some Wide Outs. If he goes up to the weight of an Orakpo he is sure to lose speed. I just hope we get a new coach next year that will switch to a 3-4 so we can get production out of Maybin, because all maybin does now is run around the O-tackle and it totally out of the play, another great pick

by csc06258 on Oct 14, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But his 40-time was just as good when he weighed 240-250 at the combine.

Also, do I seriously need to go into the whole Mario Williams saga? Give the kid time. 4 games. Jesus. How are you so sure Orakpo is gonna tank in the offseason? It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

I don’t disagree that we needed immediate pass rush help after last year. I think the right play was to get a vet DE and draft a guy, but it didn’t work out that way. It now appears that we need run D help, and I would recommend the same course of action for that.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That should read:

How are you so sure Orakpo isn’t gonna tank in the offseason?

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybin ran a 4.8 at the combine, while Orakpo killed him. Maybin ran the good 40 at his pro day. And speed is everything at this position anyway. I am not saying I do not like Maybin because I do, but we needed immediate help at DE and Orakpo was the obvious selection. Dick knew this season could cost him his job, so that just shows how incompetent this guy is by taking another 2-3 year project. I also do not like how this coaching staff drafts players and changes their position or their take on how they should play the game, cuz this in itself takes longer for them to donate to the team. For example, instead of changing Byrd to FS, Wood to G, and Levitre to G and Maybin to a 4-3 DE (with 30 more pounds on him) when it was said by lots of experts he would need time to devlope into a 4-3 DE, why doesn’t the team just draft a Guard, or a FS or Orakpo? This saves them time converting one to a new position and they draft a player who has played that position his whole college career. I am thinking they didn’t take Orakpo based on the whole Mike Williams thing. could that be?

by csc06258 on Oct 14, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dick knew this season could cost him his job, so that just shows how incompetent this guy is by taking another 2-3 year project.

Not sure how long you’ve been here, but I’ll make this clear right away: the Maybin selection was all Tom Modrak.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

News to me, too

Are you saying that Jauron didn’t get his preference in this particular case, or that he has had little say in draft picks, or what?

by Sixteenthback on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I am saying is that Maybin was Modrak’s guy. Nothing else.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Byrd to FS, Wood to G, and Levitre to G and Maybin to a 4-3 DE (with 30 more pounds on him) when it was said by lots of experts he would need time to devlope into a 4-3 DE, why doesn’t the team just draft a Guard, or a FS or Orakpo?

because they translate better in the NFL to certain positions. pretty much that simple

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by J2 on Oct 14, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well whatever it doesnt matter whos guy it was, this team needed an impact player rigbht away, so its Modraks fault

by csc06258 on Oct 14, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoa. What?

You said this above.

I also do not like how this coaching staff drafts players and changes their position or their take on how they should play the game, cuz this in itself takes longer for them to donate to the team.

Then you say it doesn’t matter whose guy it was. Then you blame Modrak.

It just seems like you’re trying to blame one guy when, in fact, you’re blaming everyone – and the latter is where you should be anyways.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

im blaming whoever picked Maybin plain in simple, y are you trying to take more out of what i am saying. We needed a player that was going to help us immediately in the pass rush or on the O-line. Oher or Orakpo should have been the pick and I think 100% of the country would agree with me. Also taking Bryd in the second was ridiculous too with Everette Brown on the board. This team is committed to losing and they do it well. I am not trying to fight with you, I am just saying that If Dick was smart, he would have realized this was his make or break year (which I am pretty sure he knows by now) and “whoever” is selecting these guys knew that too and should have tried to draft an immediate starter, like Wood. Wood was a great pick. They could have taken Oher, Wood, and Everette Brown in the second. That would have been solid, plain and simple-grant it, i would have never seen Brown falling to the second.

by csc06258 on Oct 15, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oher or Orakpo should have been the pick and I think 100% of the country would agree with me.

If 100% of the country agreed with you, would Oher have been picked earlier than he was?

I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you say. From the pre-draft buzz Maybin’s first step is better than Orakpo’s. Yeah Orakpo is doing better now but you nor I have no idea who will be better in the long run.

The Bills have been taking guys who should contibute right away for years and it’s got them nowhere.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

anyways?

Just so you know, you don’t need an “s” on anyway. Sorry to be the grammar police.

No, I’m not. If you’re going to write a blog which thousands of people read, or if you’re going to write anything at all for that matter, try not to sound like someone on the brink of failing the first grade.

Also, when you put quotations around the word “wasted,” it kinda sounds like you don’t really think he wasn’t a wasted pick.

Say what you mean. Mean what you say.

by skajaquada on Oct 14, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Say what you mean. Mean what you say.

I do. If you can’t comprehend it, my sincerest apologies. Try using some of your obvious brain power to infer things if they aren’t crystal clear. Or, you could just ask me.

I quoted the word wasted because it was the word the author used. Is that now the incorrect method of quoting someone?

Good Lord. So glad you left your opinion on the FanPost, or on the team, and led off your commenting career here with that.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahahahahahhaha – for some reason that made my day

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by J2 on Oct 14, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have to disagree

The issue is that Buffalo hasn’t been able to get him into advantageous rush situations because we can’t stop the run…

I am a Penn State fan who thinks highly of Maybin. However, he is not a NFL defensive end. He is too small. I have watched him in pass rush situations this year and he has been routinely manhandled by tackles. Can he get bigger? Sure. But at what cost to his speed? If the Bills want to remain stubborn and insist Maybin will not be converted to LB, then we may be looking at a bust. If we had any imagination on our coaching staff, Maybin could be an effective rush LB who is never in the same place two consecutive plays.

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by ChipShot on Oct 13, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s only 21 years old. He’s going to get bigger and it shouldn’t have a big impact on his athleticism. Most players his age are redshirt juniors. If every 21 year old got moved off of DE because he was too small, the NFL never would have seen a whole lot of great defensive ends.

by kaisertown on Oct 13, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

* cough * Freeney * cough *

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even a guy like Trent Cole who now plays at a Pro Bowl level at 270 pounds was like 235 pounds coming out of college as a 23 year old. These players are basically kids and are still growing into their ridiculously large bodies.
http://images.si.com/football/2005/draft/players/60980.html

by kaisertown on Oct 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who?

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by Kurupt on Oct 14, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Now I understand….the Bills are so deep with talented players that we can afford to use our #1 draft pick on someone that will have an impact next year.

by dzfromny on Oct 14, 2009 6:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Look, has the problem really been the pass rush this year? Seriously, has it?

I agree that we should continue to make high DE and DT picks and maybe look at a veteran.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 14, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the pass rush hasn’t been a problem why would be continue to make high DE, DT picks when LB and OL are the problems?

by dzfromny on Oct 16, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Bills needed speed on the edge and they got a speed rusher? Holy hell people. For years there has been an outcry for not drafting any DEs and now we do and people go all bat-poop crazy. WTF?

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

With three tackles in 5 games he either isn’t doing anything or he isn’t playing that much. My whole point is that your number 1 pick needs to have more of an impact, especially on a team as poor as the Bills. Jauron knew or should have known that he needs to win now or else he’s gone. Why in the world would you draft a player that can help you in the future when you need help now. To quote you WTF.

by dzfromny on Oct 16, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brian and everyone else around here has been trying to tell you that rookie DEs make very little impact. The Bills recognized that weakness and addressed it but knew it would take time. Besides, the DEs haven’t been the reason we are losing. If Maybin was making a contribution of like 2 sacks and 10 tackles does that make the Bills a 4 or 5 win team right now? Hardly. The DEs are playing well right now.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs