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How the dream of a Buffalo GM could become reality

Writing about the Buffalo Bills right now in a unique, non-redundant fashion is borderline impossible.  News sources, blogs and fan sites everywhere have the Dick Jauron firing watch well in hand - even though I maintain that waiting on tenterhooks for that to happen will just lead to an increase in your frustration levels.  The problems with the 1-4 Bills themselves are also well-documented, and don't change from week to week (i.e. quarterback, offensive line, run defense, special teams, penalties).

In short, talking about anything to do with the current Bills - Jauron, the front office, the team - is rather boring and repetitive.  Those types of conversations don't interest me.  Since the Bills clearly need fixing, however, it's quite interesting indeed to mull over the ways in which owner Ralph Wilson might do said fixing.  That's what I'm going to do after the jump - that's a fair warning to those of you who'd rather not think about the future just yet.  Another fair warning: this is going to be long.

And now, the nut graph: I've been told countless times by countless numbers of Bills fans that Ralph Wilson won't hire a GM.  I'm going to attempt to explain to you, in my usual long-winded and convoluted way, why I don't think that's necessarily true.

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In essence, everything that follows is simply me dumping my thoughts on you.  Hope you don't mind.  There isn't an exact science to fixing football teams - if there was, every team would be good every year.  But there are several strong, smart paths the Bills can take to do so.  Again, I think it's in everyone's best interests to wait until January to begin that process, even if that means letting Jauron close out the season as a lame duck coach.  Hey - Rod Marinelli coached the Lions to 0-16, and they're slowly getting back on track.  I'm not into moves made simply to make fans happy, so I'm more than OK with Jauron finishing out the season if, in fact, the Bills continue to lose.

Now for the interesting stuff.  Interesting to me, at least.  Assuming that the Bills miss the playoffs and Jauron is fired - I know, I'm really going out on a limb there - Wilson will be in a strange predicament.  He'll have a front office full of people that he likes (Russ Brandon chief among them), but will have a hard time selling that front office to the fan base.  He'll obviously need a new coach, too.  I've already gone on record as saying that Wilson needs to bring in a General Manager, and while I'm certainly not counting on that to happen, it's freaking October, so permit me to dream fondly for at least another two months.

There are some basic truths that we need to accept as fact before we even discuss possible directions the Bills as a franchise could move in.

Wilson is still all about consensus.  Marv Levy preached consensus throughout his entire Bills career, and he's still got Wilson's ear to this day.  Wilson, therefore, will continue to preach consensus as well.  But that doesn't necessarily mean continuity.  All it means is that Wilson will look to implement a front office where power is diluted from what we might call a traditional NFL power structure.  Wilson doesn't want "one voice."  He wants several voices on the same page.  That's tough to pull off, but it's certainly not impossible.

What Wilson needs to realize - and if we keep saying this loudly enough, he might get to that point - is that you can have consensus, but it's never universal.  Ultimately, there needs to be one man with final say over personnel decisions.  It's high time that that responsibility fall under the jurisdiction of someone other than the head coach - because that's exactly what we've had the past four seasons during the Jauron era.

Russ Brandon isn't going anywhere - nor should we want him to.  Nor is he more than tangentially involved in football decisions.  Brandon is a smart guy - he knows his weaknesses, and I'd be willing to bet that he'd have no problem deferring to someone with football clout so long as the decision could be agreed upon by the coaches, scouts and Wilson.  Brandon is a key figure in the dream of Buffalo potentially hiring a GM, because he's uniquely qualified to work alongside a GM in a non-traditional way.  He has Wilson's confidence, and Brandon could quite easily work alongside a football mind who has equal his power.  Call it a co-GM if you wish - or, more specifically, having a GM in control of the business aspect of the team (oh! Jim Overdorf should stay too, by the way), and a GM in control of the team itself.

When Tom Donahoe was hired, Wilson didn't have that established front office presence in the fold.  He gave Donahoe not just complete control of his football team, but the team presidency as well.  I'm told constantly that Wilson won't do that again - and that's exactly why Brandon is so important.  Wilson can bring in an outside GM with his own philosophy and culture, and Brandon is perfectly capable of working in that culture - because he has to sell it.  With Brandon, you can literally insert any qualified GM into the picture; Brandon's presence preserves consensus, dilutes power, and Wilson can live comfortably knowing his front office philosophies are intact while his football team is in better hands.  Brandon provides a flexibility to Wilson's decision-making that hasn't been there before.

A new culture is needed.  Let's not sugar-coat the fact that there are qualified individuals currently in Buffalo's front office.  Brandon is a great executive.  No, he's not a traditional GM, but neither is the Jets' Mike Tannenbaum, and he's proving himself, at a minimum, competent.  I think the world of Tom Modrak, and could still get behind him handling our college scouting team.  Everyone else? Not so much.  And I'm not married to the idea of Modrak so thoroughly that I'd let it compromise a new GM bringing a new culture to this team.

Ralph desperately needs to bring in a front office executive who has spent time with other organizations - and, far more importantly, done so within the last few seasons.  The current front office folks, even the qualified ones, need a new influence to shake things up - the way they scout, the way they work, the way they do everything.  Knowing that Brandon isn't going anywhere, finding that outside influence should be easy to do - and the younger and more energetic the candidate, the better, in my book.  Maintaining the status quo by sticking with the current front office structure heading into the 2010 season is both unacceptable to the fan base, nor does it change much besides how the day-to-day of the team is handled by the new head coach.  Yes, the latter is a culture change, but the culture change needs to extend into how personnel decisions are handled as well.

Ralph isn't going to break the bank.  No, that's not calling him cheap.  It's simply calling him frugal, which given the current state of the league and the upcoming labor issues isn't a bad thing.  But it does, however, exclude the Bills from going out and competing for big-name hires such as Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren, et al.  Let's face the music, folks: there are a LOT of bad football teams out there right now, and there are a lot of teams that could be looking for new coaches starting any time now.  These guys will always be the first names to be mentioned for any vacancy.

I maintain that looking past the big names is the right move for the franchise.  Let's use Cowher as an example.  Yes, he's a terrific head coach, though I think his reputation is puffed up a bit by the fact that he coached for the greatest owners in sport, had a slew of spectacular assistant coaches (most prominent among them Dick LeBeau), and still only won one championship.  I'm not saying he wouldn't be a good fit in Buffalo, nor am I saying that he wouldn't make this team better, but ultimately, what has changed? He wouldn't change the culture of the front office.  In reality, he'd simply be taking over Jauron's responsibilities.  That's an improvement, yes, but it does nothing to address the heart of the issue - the front office.

With all of that in mind, there are perfectly reasonable arguments to be made that could coerce Wilson into choosing to tinker with his front office before replacing Jauron.  I am, and always will, maintain that that's the right decision to make - and I think it's perfectly possible for Wilson to either realize it, or have someone close to him realize it.

I've got the names of three men for you now - all are rising GM candidates, and all have unique qualities that could work in Wilson's ideal front office structure.

Marc Ross - Director of College Scouting, New York Giants (Ross reading material)
Ross is 34 years old.  He's worked for the Bills before - as a national scout, under Tom Modrak.  He worked as a scout for Modrak in Philadelphia, and was the Director of College Scouting there, too.  Now, he works in the same capacity under Jerry Reese in New York, and has helped put together a couple of stellar draft classes for one of the best-run and easily-identifiable teams in the NFL right now.  His best selection in those two years might be WR Mario Manningham, who has exploded onto the scene for New York this season.

If Wilson is looking to bring in some outside influence and culture while enabling as little shake-up to his front office as possible, Ross is clearly the best candidate.  Ross is a "discovery" of Modrak's, so it's well beyond reasonable to assume that Ross would keep Modrak and his scouting staff on board - and again, that's not a bad thing.  Buffalo has drafted relatively well the past few years, and Modrak is well-respected; with a different, more forceful personality calling the final shots, why can't it work?  Ross is young enough to work alongside Brandon, too, and do so without complaint.  As long as Ross gutted the pro personnel department - currently headed up by John Guy - he'd be a definite step in the right direction, and what's more, a beyond-plausible one for Wilson to consider.

Tell me why this wouldn't be possible, even to a mind that thinks as uniquely as Mr. Wilson:

Ralph Wilson - Owner, Team President
Russ Brandon - VP, Chief Operating Officer
Marc Ross - General Manager, Football Operations
Tom Modrak - Director of College Scouting
__________ - Director of Pro Personnel
__________ - Head Football Coach

What possible objection could Wilson have? You get the outside influence, you shake things up as little as possible, you get a football voice and streamline the efficiency of decision-making.  Wilson himself, and the front office executives he'd be keeping (even if he forced Ross to keep Modrak, why would Ross object?), already have a familiarity with Ross.  That's like win times a million.

Eric DeCosta - Director of Player Personnel, Baltimore Ravens (DeCosta reading material)
If Wilson's feeling a little gutsier, the 38-year-old DeCosta would be a great fit as well.  The only difference in the above organizational chart would be blanking out Modrak's name, because DeCosta comes from an organization that does things in a very specific way.  He'd demand a little more authority than Ross would just based on his background (in my book, that's nowhere near a bad thing).  He, too, is still young enough to accept working next to Brandon, the liaison between a GM and Wilson.

If there's one team that embodies the type of play that Bills fans appreciate most on the field, it's Baltimore.  You'll be hard-pressed to find a team that plays faster and more physically than Baltimore, particularly defensively.  They're blue-collar.  We're blue-collar.  That's what makes DeCosta so endearing - that and the fact that he's essentially the right-hand man of one of the greatest General Managers in the league, Ozzie Newsome.  DeCosta isn't as snug a fit if we're talking about realistic options, but again, I believe that Brandon's presence makes any GM candidate a possibility - and DeCosta has the chops to be a great one.

Ruston Webster - Vice President of Player Personnel, Seattle Seahawks (Webster reading material)
Webster, 49, is yet again slightly different from the first two names on the list in that his background has a little less to do with scouting and a little more to do with pro personnel - he's far more balanced than either Ross or DeCosta in that department.  Right now, Webster is the right-hand man of Seahawks GM Tim Ruskell - and Seattle has had some success recently, and always seems to draft relatively well - but Webster was also part of the great Buccaneers teams of early this decade, that were perennial playoff contenders under Tony Dungy and a won a Super Bowl with Gruden.

Again, Webster is more of a stretch than Ross considering he'd very likely want to re-vamp both the scouting and pro personnel departments - and Wilson has a deep respect for Modrak.  In that light, Webster is less realistic - but that doesn't make him a possibility worth exploring.  For a third time, Webster is a candidate that could work next to Brandon while commanding full, final say over the shape of the football roster.

It should be noted right now that I have no preference about who Buffalo's next head coach might be.  There are plenty of assistant coaches I think are more than worthy of consideration, and how can you not like most of the big names, even if only a little? I think it's far more important that Buffalo address their front office first, and then let the new decision-makers bring in a coach that fits in with their newly-imported culture, their football philosophies, and their personalities.  NFL teams don't need to hire big-name head coaches when they bring in guys with the right attitude and when everyone's on the same page - just ask John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Tony Sparano, or any of the other assistants who have proven themselves to be excellent head coaches lately (and yes, there are a lot of them).

That's it.  If you've made it this far, bravo - you're either really bored at work, or you actually found all of that at least mildly interesting.  I think this is an important point to be made - Wilson going out and hiring a GM is not only possible, but it actually makes a ton of frigging sense, and isn't as unrealistic as most gloom-and-doomers would have me believe.  The names above are just examples; I'm sure there are other GM candidates out there that would make sense, too (though probably not as much realistic sense as Ross).  Keep your dreams alive, Bills-fan-who-wants-a-GM, because it's perfectly plausible that Wilson will see how much sense it makes if the right advice, and the right man, come along.

This post, as all of our posts are, is open for discussion.  Seriously - if you've got an argument to make that would convince me why these steps are not possible, I'd love to hear it.  General thoughts and observations are, of course, welcome as well.  Spread the word, folks - we need a GM, and if you know Mr. Wilson personally, let him know.

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Exactly!

Per my post “Building a Winning Organization”, this falls in line with Ron Wolf’s book “The Packer Way”…..speaking of Ron Wolf, I think he is still retired, maybe Ralph should hire him…however, I would not be opposed to Ralph restructuing the front office as suggested by Brian above.

Not that I want this to happen, but what happens if Ralph Wilson dies this year?……

by RIP058 on Oct 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Read that FanPost and enjoyed it. Need to read Wolf’s actual words next. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great write up

by LIBi on Oct 14, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well not to say this is obvious, but it should be

This team seems to look for the quick fix, not always the right fix.

You are exactly right that we need to build from the top down

Building down is much like building out from the line. We finally did this in the past draft and i think through out the next few year without major injury we should have a solid O-line.

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Oct 14, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This team seems to look for the quick fix, not always the right fix.

I get the sentiment, but I’m not sure that’s applicable. Then again, it might be solely considering Wilson’s age. Ralph needs to do it the right way, but will he considering the point in his life he’s reached? That, more than anything, is scary when talking about the future of the organization.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ralphy needs to think about his legacy

because years from now no matter who owns this team, it will still be traced back to him. People will know how he ran it and how he left it for the future.

What im trying to say is that if Ralph was smart he would do whatever he can now to secure the future of this team and not just try to put a mediocre team together before he …… and attempt to build the foundation for a team thaqt can really compete. That would be a legacy.

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by billsoferie on Oct 15, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great GREAT GREAT Article...

I read the whole b/c i’m REALLY BORED @ WORK

My only disagreement w/ you is this: Tom Modrak staying w/ this team doesn’t make any sense on any level. He’s been here 10 years and they haven’t hit on one draft in those 10.

I really don’t think going after or even hiring Mike Holmgren is out of the question. Money talks, and Ralph has the money. He knows he isn’t getting any younger, and I think if push comes to shove, he could open his wallet for Holmgren, and like you said keep Russ on has C.O.O. and just make Holmgren GM/Pres of Football Operations.

But whoever they hire, I really hope Ralph has a limited say in the coaching hire. Hire the GM first, then let the GM search and interview the coaching canidates.

by Michael_Necci on Oct 14, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Having too many hats

No matter the skill of the coach and how much they think they can do, there is always failure at the end of the HC / GM tunnel. Just ask Mike Shanahan nd Mike Holmgren.

NOw that I reread your comment , though, I think you were saying just bring in Holmgren as a front office guy. That might work, a la Bill Parcells 2.0

by syrbillsfan on Oct 14, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Modrak staying w/ this team doesn’t make any sense on any level. He’s been here 10 years and they haven’t hit on one draft in those 10.

The important thing to remember there is that those weren’t Modrak’s drafts. They were Donahoe’s, or they were Jauron’s. The fact that the Bills were able to consistently find solid players in rounds 4-7 (and yeah, they missed on a lot of those players, too) speaks well to his and his staff’s scouting abilities.

That’s also an issue when talking about up-and-coming GM candidates, too – because as well as the Giants have drafted, it’s Jerry Reese making final calls on those picks, not Ross. You look for guys with forceful personalities, confidence, youthful exuberance and a background with quality organizations – and then you hope that they can run the show.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really like this post!

Especially since its long! Haha
Out of the three you have listed I would really like to see DeCosta. The main reason for that is because I think he would bring in an identity to this team. And I brought this up before this season that the Bills DON’T have an identity.
It just seems like if you are going to draft and have some pass rushers that should get to the QB quickly that your corners should blanket the WR with some bump coverage. I could go on and on about the Bills offense just not fitting it togethor.

I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City

by Ghetts on Oct 14, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL – I feel like a hypocrite, because I typically loathe long Internet articles. But I just couldn’t help myself.

Identity is something that we’ll cover as well, even though we touched on it a little here. Rec’d

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it January already?

most of my posts get deleted :(

by dzil on Oct 14, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Your comment is timestamped Oct 14. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it was we’d actually have something to look forward to, the draft

Starting a movement to draft Jimmy Clausen in april, he'll be the 2nd coming of Kelly, the saviour of the Bills

by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great read Brian

Spot on in my mind. I was saying in a comment somewhere this morning that keeping Modrak and especially Brandon are important. People seem to think that Brandon is the bad guy here. He’s not. He is great at his job. He is not great at doing things that are not his job, i.e. personnel decisions. Let him stay and work between Wilson and a GM to share the power in Ralphs mind.
You’re also spot on IMO that Wilson will not hand over the reigns for total control to any one man.
And for the record:
“If you’ve made it this far, bravo – you’re either really bored at work, or you actually found all of that at least mildly interesting”
I started reading because I was bored, I finished because it was indeed interesting

"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"

by willgarr15 on Oct 14, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also I bolded the quote because I just spent 5 minutes trying to figure out how the block quote thing worked…Apparently I am really bored at work…

"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"

by willgarr15 on Oct 14, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blockquote is the one feature here that is most difficult to pick up. Glad you enjoyed the article at any rate.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah

“Also I bolded the quote because I just spent 5 minutes trying to figure out how the block quote thing worked…Apparently I am really bored at work”

your just working as hard as they pay you to

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youth

I believe it is critical to bring in a GM who is willing to grow with the franchise. Best age is late 30’s to mid 40s. I do wonder if 34 is a little young (Ross) to be a GM. But then again until the last 3 years I would have thought that about the coaching spots too, and obviously with TOmlin and Denver’s new spastic wonderboy that is not the case.

But you have to wonder if Wilson who is certainly set in his ways will go on a limb and invest in a someone he would ultimately view as a youngster.

by Berg79 on Oct 14, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I could write an entire post on this as well. Love this thought, as I completely agree with it – a lot of people are gunshy about bringing in a coordinator, but I like guys with youth and passion. We need a coach that players don’t just respect, but can identify with. That’ll make them work even harder. It’ll be easier to motivate them and get them team-oriented. I’m allllllllll about young, energetic coaches and personnel executives. Rec’d

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I am too. But it doesn’t matter if you, me, or the fanbase wants youth it is will Ralph accept youth in a position of authority (jeez that sounded like Cartman from South Park…completely unintentionally).

Youth to Ralph could be late 50s, early 60s.

by Berg79 on Oct 15, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeCosta, Ross then Webster are the way I break down whom I would like to have brought in to run the Bills

A little Ravens or Giants toughness would be a wonderful thing to see. And Webster isn’t bad either, and is a very good judge of talent in the Pro dept. The Seahawks have really hit on their recent FA acquisitions and Webster is a big part of that, so if we want a fast fix for the team, he would be the one.

If we are talking long haul fix it from the ground up type work, then Ross and DeCosta are the guys we need.

As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.

by WABillsfan on Oct 14, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GREAT READ!

If only we had Ralph’s email, so we could send this article to him!

I can do all things through he whom gives me strength. Philippians 4:13

by NCbillsfan12 on Oct 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmmmmmmm

I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
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by J2 on Oct 14, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

try telegraph…

by fansince60 on Oct 14, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was gonna say – what’s the over/under on Ralph having an email address?

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he follow rumblings on Twitter.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Oct 14, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you mean follows his own rumblings on the ……word that rhymes with twitter.

by quantumuprising on Oct 14, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"

by willgarr15 on Oct 15, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about signing mike shanahan?

that takes care of HC and GM in one shot. OBD will have to pay him more then the bums were use to paying but he’s doing 2 jobs so they’d save money by only paying 1 person, ralph loves a deal, and this is one both he and the fans can stand by

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and good job dude

i said in another post that i wanted articles about the future and your delivering. like you said, the guys who get paid the big $ to repeat the same story’s in different words (si.com anyone?) have this lousy season covered to death

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, don’t expect these types of articles too often – maybe once every week or two. There’s not a ton that can be said until it becomes more apparent what Ralph is thinking. Either way, glad you liked it.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats your thought on shanahan?

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of all of the big-name coaches, he’s my favorite. He’s proven, and even more impressive, he relinquished his GM duties in Denver before the end – so he, at least, realizes that the GM/HC dual role doesn’t always work.

But I don’t view him as a guy who would be willing to submit to a GM’s final authority in the event there’s a disagreement on personnel. Those crappy Denver teams of the past 3-5 years were Shanahan-built. If he can get more power elsewhere, I think he’d jump at the chance. (Yes, I refer to Washington.)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he did lay the ground work for them to be 5-0 this year. i’m not saying mcdaniels didn’t do his part (as much as i hate that prick) but shanahan did lay the ground work. as for relinquishing gm duties, that may have been what cost him his job. he was gm during the SB years

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are 5-0 because Mike Nolan has turned their defense around.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 15, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rebuttal:

We’re the Buffalo Bills. If there’s a way to do something wrong we’ll find a way.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Oct 14, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure, there’s that, but that’s defeatist, and also boring. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it may appear defeatist, but its its also incredibly true. weve pulled defeat from the claws of victory more times in the past ten years than I care to count. Our solid fourth quarter comebacks come against teams like the raiders. Shrug.

by quantumuprising on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I’m well aware – but why would that continue under a new regime? I don’t buy into curses.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We came back against the Jaguars and Redskins, too. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 15, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really something to brag about dude

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by J. Mackin on Oct 15, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you wouldn’t mind, I’d like to hear you expand on those last two words. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Article Brian- Bravo!

One of the best I’ve seen since I’ve been reading this website, and that’s saying something. Rec’d

by StroudFanClub on Oct 14, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end

Some great ideas…well said. The wild card is the logic of Ralph and how his economics always trumps logic and wisdom. I believe control will be only be given up when “pried from his cold dead hands” At which point, the new owner might pack up the tent and move.

In the meantime, I’m hoping against hope your ideas filter through to the old guy.

by fansince60 on Oct 14, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The wild card is the logic of Ralph and how his economics always trumps logic and wisdom. I believe control will be only be given up when "pried from his cold dead hands"

I’m not sure how hiring a guy like Marc Ross would break the bank. In fact, I’d think hiring a guy as young as Ross would be the cheapest option possible. Same with DeCosta, or any other GM candidate who hasn’t held that post before.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would not be the hiring of either but rather the philosophy each would bring that would surely transfer to $$$ in Ralph’s mind. A parent buying a kid a car is an idea shared by both parent and kid. The fact that you’re thinking used Honda Civic and the’re thinking new Mercedes might create some discord.

by fansince60 on Oct 14, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If by Mercedes you mean high-priced free agents and luxurious coaching selections, that’s certainly possible. I’d assume any GM interviewing with Ralph would know the economic limitations. Russ Brandon certainly does, and he’d still be involved in both the FA and coaching selection process, too.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“economic limitations” is it exactly. I’m not saying Jones or Snyder have the right idea, but, would’t quality candidates shy away because they know they would likely never have the resources ($$$) to even compete with other teams? For the talented candidate, “just competing” is not in their vocabulary.
On the other hand, hiring someone willing to “drink the koolaid” or whatever cliche you choose, will not breed success.If you put the Bills track record in resume form, it’s not pretty.
It would be an easy reach to say Wilson is the polar opposite of Jones/Snyder. In direct contrast, his “small market whine” doesn’t wash when fan support is far from the lowest in the league. In the worst of economic conditions, the team still draws 70K plus week in/week out – more than the maximum capacity of many stadia. Factor in his age, and the fact that Ralph’s $25K investment is now worth $800-900MM and an intelligent, talented candidate would scratch his head (just like we are!) He’s got to think there’s a “better gig” out there and run in the other direction. I hope I’m wrong.

by fansince60 on Oct 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your mostly right. It’s true that Ralph can’t really compete with the big boys of the league. But if the salary cap sticks around, then a coach should’t struggle to compete from a financial standpoint. Despite our rsoter filled with average players, the Bills have been in the top half of the league in player salaries the last couple seasons. So while I can’t imagine a coach choosing Buffalo over Washington or Dallas, the situation isn’t quite as bas as a lot of Bills fans think.

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by kaisertown on Oct 14, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's why the rich stay rich

the caps for players only, that’s why the jones’ (in this case jerry) can get what coach they want, because they can afford to over pay and buy whomever they want, while where scraping up the left overs out of the coaching bagin bin like it’s a week after welfare day.

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and how has that worked out for the cowboys. yeah they’ve been to the playoffs but when was the last time they won a playoff game. They can pay for great coaches and push for top talent but their office structure of Jerry tinkering in every aspect, hasn’t won them many superbowls recently.

rant over.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Oct 15, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's cause they haven't had good coaches since the early 90's

it was just an example of being able to get any coach he want’s, but he normally doesn’t pick good ones.

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by J. Mackin on Oct 15, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are Baltimore and Pittsburgh suddenly floating in money now? They are doing fine with their resources.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 15, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only caveat is

Wilson IMO still feels burned by the Donahoe tenure that he’s probably still a litle gunshy about bringing someone else from the outside to have ANY clout into his inner circle.

That would be my primary reason why, though I love all the scenarios listed, I don’t think it’ll happen. Call me cynical, but I’m just not convinced Ralph is still over that whole mess and still treats this situation differently than most organizations because of the Donahoe experience.

by sabre74kkn on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Granted, but to my thinking he’s likely even more burned by the past three and a half dismal seasons that have shown no progress whatsoever.

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by Dyl on Oct 14, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent post.

I agree that a new GM that’s focused on building the team is important, and having Brandon focus on all the other issues makes a lot of sense. No need to spread things too thin.

And while I think a GM with authority is important, I don’t think the talent level on the team is that bad. The depth isn’t ideal obviously, but I think the top 35 players (give or take) are pretty solid. And whoever takes over the team is going to inherit a developing OL (if they ever stop with the drive killing false starts).

One thing about all these prominent coaches being available is that if indeed they do come back to coach, and the Bills aren’t signing them (which no one expects), the competition for prominent coordinators will be less than it would be otherwise.

The thing that strikes me odd about Wilson going the frugal way is that he’s really old; you’d think he’d enjoy improving his team more in his last years than going to the gave with an extra couple million in his pocket.

by Pistol on Oct 14, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great article Brian

There’s not much I’d add. I’d prefer one of the first two for sure.

The only problem is I don’t see Wilson willing to do this, especially if he has Marv in his ear. I sure hope I’m wrong though. We need the youth and vision of these guys.

If something like this does happen (please!!!), another good thing is the new GM would be bringing along some of his scouts too. Scouts from those teams would be a welcome addition here, no doubt.

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by Kurupt on Oct 14, 2009 3:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I love it

I completly agree….i dont care if they keep Brandon or not. I would love to see them bring in Decosta, then hire Brian Shcottenhiemer as hc. Finally we might get some mental toughness and some tenacity to finish out those close games. Who on this blog wouldnt like to see that? Our team has talent. I firmly believe we are one good draft away. One good draft and one huge attitude slash culture change away from becoming a contender. We can only pray that Ralph wants to see this team change and opens his mind and purse strings to make it happen.

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by Stabby Mcshank on Oct 14, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great post

I really enjoyed reading this post. I found myself agreeing with pretty much everything, which I think is rare when reading blogs.

I shared it with a friend and it sparked a discussion that somehow turned to the ever-popular “Should they trade T.O.” and “Should they draft a QB in the first round?” I say no and no, if you were wondering, but that could be two whole long posts.

by Hattrick12488 on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

trading T.O. and drafting Clausen/Bradford were steps 1 and 3 of my 4 step program for the bills this year/offseason. hell, trade edwards to carolina for a couple of there cheerleaders while we’re at it, that’s step 1b, just added it in there. might as well improve the team on all aspects lol

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AA

trading T.O. and drafting Clausen/Bradford were steps 1 and 3 of my 4 step program for the bills this year/offseason. hell, trade edwards to carolina for a couple of there cheerleaders while we’re at it, that’s step 1b, just added it in there. might as well improve the team on all aspects lol

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good stuff Brian

I echo these sentiments and it’s the ONLY way to fix the Bills. If there is no one to be the ONE VOICE, ONE LEADER, FINAL DECISION maker then it will not work. Exchanging ideas, working hard to think outside the box, but more importantly having an organization mission or STANDARD OF PERFORMANCE like Bill Walsh did, is what is needed to run and build a successful football organization and any successful business alike for that matter.

ANd I know you needed to write this because as you lay out, Ralph may reconsider. However, I just don’t see it. His personal history says when he holds grudges he holds them forever. Cookie Gilchrest for instance, after traded away after his best season ever as a BIll, is not even welcome on gamedays..

Look at every front office personnel man that we have had in charge, that has left Buffalo in the last ~17 years…Bill Polian, Jon Butler, Tom Donahoe, and now maybe Dick Jauron. They all left, and Ralph kind of threw a fit as they left. So that tells me that either Ralph hired the wrong guy and finally is admitting to his mistake, or that those people are ready to leave for various reasons, possibly because they feel forced out by their owner anymore in the case of Jon Butler for sure.

Anyhow, I have hope, but I don’t think it will be until the days of the legend that is Ralph Wilson, come to an end

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by MARVelous on Oct 14, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Butler and Bill Polian left after disagreements with Ralph about the team, money and how it should be spent to build the team

As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.

by WABillsfan on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Read.

When an article is that good, boredom is not the reason you finished it. The best thing about this site is the very informative discussion that takes place within the comments section. Bravo to all. I may not comment much but I read all front page articles and most of the comments. Thank you for the great work and continue to pump out these great reads with wonderful discussion points.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Oct 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great read

as often is the case i do not have the linguistic talent to compete with my peers, so I just repeat what XtremeCarnage 82 has said. I almost always find the rumbling to be informative and unlike most forums not filled with trash talk. Thank you all.

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by crazyoldmen on Oct 15, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

if wies is available we get him as head coach and draft jimmy clausen. at the very least it’ll piss off billicek. that be worth it alone

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great job Brian

While I agree with most everything you said, I don’t get this part. You were talking about HCs….

I maintain that looking past the big names is the right move for the franchise.

Since nothing is going to happen until the end of the season, why can’t we hire a GM who then might hire a big name coach? If the Bills actually attempt to fix the front office problem, wouldn’t that make the Bills more likely to be able to land one of the big fish?

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by Joe P. on Oct 14, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If a new GM hired the big-name coach, then great – as long as he fits the new philosophy. What I meant was look past the big-name HCs to fix the real problem first.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly does Chief Operating Officer mean

in the proposed hierarchy? Wilson as Owner/President, and Marc Ross as GM and overseer of football operations — Wouldn’t Brandon be sideways of Ross, instead of above him? If not, does that mean Brandon could fire Ross or make decisions over his head if he wanted?

I guess I’m just having a hard time understanding Brandon’s position — with Ross hypothetically coming in, is he being moved up or moved over?

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by Dyl on Oct 14, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm… I guess if you want to think of it that way, it’s over. Like I said – think of it as a co-GM if you wish, but I’m basically suggesting that they separate business and football, but since the two are fundamentally linked in this business (see: T.O.’s acquisition selling tickets), Brandon would still be able to have input.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we should be looking at Brandon and Ralph as the same person. My feeling is that Brandon would basically be playing the role of Ralph and doing the things that Wilson would be doing if he wasn’t 90 years old. So, I think Brandon would have more authority than a GM, but his voice would largely be Ralph’s. This is nothing more than assumptions, but I’d guess that Brandon would essentially have something like a veto power, would be a part of major decisions (resigning the best players, going after big FAs, top 10-15 picks, hiring a head coach) and would oversee the business side of things. From a football sense, I think Brandon would be a part of the decisions where every team needs to try and get that organization wide consensus. It’s just good for business when everybody is on the same page about trading Peters, signing TO or who they’re picking in the first round.

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by kaisertown on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically, your suggesting co-managers.

Perhaps Russ and Ross (wow, that’s weird) or Russ and DeCosta can share a cup of gin in their matching “World’s Best Boss” mugs.

So easy Marshawn Lynch can do it.

by thatguy34 on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent article. the thought I have is we must take into account that Ralph may not be able to make changes in the team. This is not the same Ralph Wilson that ran the bills for so many years. In different ways he is much like Al Davis, not as crazy acting, but still not able to handle the decisions needed to save the team. I notice that you do not address the issue of if the bills are just in a holding pattern till they are sold. If they are sold ,no reason to make major changes in a team the new owners will gut. Week by week the leadership more and more leads one to believe that they are no longer Buffalo’s team but a team on the market. If they are to be liquidated then the wants and concerns of the wonderful fans in Buffalo become irrelevant.

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by crazyoldmen on Oct 14, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don´t see

I jusy don´t see a bright light at the end of the tunnel. The bills are gonna suck for a long time UNLESS they get someone in the front office who knows something about football. I really hate the bills right now, every year its the same for us over ans over again. (except for last season) in week 6 we are beginning to talk “next season football” thats just sad.

CHANGE THE FROOOONT OFFICE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by rick p on Oct 14, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice work here

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by rrsmithers on Oct 14, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done, Brian

I really think bringing in a GM from your list and an up-and-coming assistant as HC would be better than bringing in a Cowher/Shanahan/etc. type. And (you listening, Ralph?) incredibly cheaper…which makes it more likely, I think.

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 14, 2009 6:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for providing another well constructed, well argued post Brian.

I loved the line from the DeCosta interview

let’s keep in mind that the NFL is a tough, physical game and it’s important to have a demeanor to match. We’ve learned that that can be more important than whether or not a corner can flip their hips quickly.

I couldn’t support Ruston Webster after seeing how the Seahawks destroyed what Holmgren had built in one move by letting Steve Hutchinson sign with the Vikings. They haven’t found a replacement and consequently haven’t had a running game or been able to protect their QB.

I would also like to stress that a great organization has talent from the top to bottom, and I’m particularly concerned with the coaching staff here. You can have great drafts, but if you don’t have coaches able to develop the talent then you don’t improve. Right now, the Bills have a couple of passable coaches (Kugler, Catavalos, Ray Brown?, Sanders) and some that have done nothing to distinguish themselves in their current positions (Tolbert, Studesville, AVP, Fewell). With the amount of money spent on players salaries, I think it is foolish to skimp on coaches. Again, I wonder, when we are going to get a QB coach to replace AVP. No one argues that the next year or two presents a bounty of talented QBs. It would be stupid to draft one and not provide him with a top notch coach. (I also think it would be wise to let him back someone up, Trent is fine with me, before forcing him into the spotlight of press conferences and unblocked pass rushes).

Finally, the Dwayne Wright story continues to haunt me. The one about how the Bills were having a great draft in 2007 (thanks to Ross?) and had a good pick (LB, OL? a fan can only dream) lined up for round 4 when Ralph saunters into the room and wonders, “what about that running back from Fresno St.?” That’s the kind of story that makes me wonder how Don Criqui could say that Ralph is the “greatest thing to ever happen to Western NY sports”. It also makes me wonder if Ross would be willing to come back.

by williamsDT on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

The Vikings made it so Seattle couldn’t sign Hutchinson with a poison pill contract. Of course, you can argue Seattle should have locked him up well before he became a FA….

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by Kurupt on Oct 15, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was it not a similar contract to what bills signed dockery with the next year?

by williamsDT on Oct 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the surface, yes

Both were for 7 years, $49M

But the Hutchinson deal called for him to be the highest paid OL on the team at the time the offer sheet was signed. If he wasn’t, then the entire deal was to be guaranteed. At the time of that signing, Seattle had Walter Jones signed to a 7 year $52.5M deal, so it was virtually impossible for Seattle to keep Hutch unless they guaranteed him $49M. They tried to reduce Jones average salary, but since it was ruled that because it was done after Hutch signed the offer sheet, then the terms of the contract held up. They couldn’t keep Hutchinson then.


Here’s a good explanation of it

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by Kurupt on Oct 15, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d forgotten those details. Thanks for explanation.

However, they still haven’t been able to construct a decent o-line, which happens to also be bills major problem at moment.

by williamsDT on Oct 15, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

As always Brian you brought it, well thought out and well written… A couple questions though:
1) are you opposed to seeing someone like Cowher (and I don’t necessarily condone this) come in and fill two hats, coach and GM? This would be a possible “frugal” move and bring in a guy who has proven to be successfull elsewhere. This might be a risky maneuver since someone like that would require a lengthy (and lucrative) contract.
2) Are you opposed to filling the need right now if you could get a guy “like” Cowher? We would then be filling our GM/Coach need at the same time? This would also be a preimptive strike to get a top-notch talent in prior to the bidding wars in the off-season.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 14, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Article

Things I particularly liked:

Putting Ross before DeCosta. I think if Mr. Wilson is going to break with the current model in any way, it’s going to be a smaller change that he’s comfortable with. Ross represents that, regardless of who’s better, Ross or DeCosta. The Giants have also put together a physical team, so the difference between the team Ross and DeCosta would put together would fit the blue collar nature of WNY. I personally rather have DeCosta due to his time with Newsome, but Mr. Wilson needs to make a move, and if Ross is the only one he’s comfortable with, I’m all for that move.

Recongnition that the college scouting department hasn’t done that bad, but the pro personnel department needs overhaul. The Bills haven’t faired well with UFA’s overall, especially with the Walker and Dockery signings. The recommendations of John Guy and that department have been off. But the college scouting has been, as normal, better than average to good. The scouts don’t decide who to draft. I’d say a good GM working with Modrak and that department would need a couple seasons to really stack the team, which has pretty good talent at this point.

Again, really good and rec’d.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d say a good GM working with Modrak and that department would need a couple seasons to really stack the team, which has pretty good talent at this point.

I think the second part of that is debatable – but as you said, the scouting department isn’t making the final decision. The first part? Yeah, Ross could turn it around quickly simply by being prudent with his decision-making – and that could happen quickly because he already has a healthy, lengthy working relationship with Modrak. Seriously – hiring Ross makes so much sense it makes me want to cry.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we're that far off

We lose TO, Reed, and Ellison in the off-season, potentially.

The interior OL has talent and will only get better, and Butler is solid when healthy. The backs and Evans are very good with the potential to be great. And we have young talent in Bell, Nelson, and Johnson.

The front seven needs another pass rusher, a LB, and a rotational DT, but Schobel, Stroud, Williams, Posluszny, and Mitchell are all good players. Whitner and McGee are solid in the secondary. The defense also has young talent in Maybin, Byrd, and McKelvin.

Ross was part of the Giants creating super-positions, which I mentioned a couple months ago, notably in their DL. The Giants just simply overwhelm people with talent and depth on their front four, making up for any shortcomings in the back seven, as well as obviously being highly disruptive to offenses. And the Giants have also ensured their OL has been taken care of.

With two off-seasons and the talent already on the team, I can see a good GM turning the team around quickly. You mentioned it’s about culture first, and I agree. We’d see some unexpected cuts/trades of players that didn’t fit the culture.

But from a sheer talent standpoint, in just the coming off-season, adding a pash-rusher (Mark Anderson?), a LB (Thomas Davis?) and a rotational DT (Barry Cofield?) would go a long way for the team, and wouldn’t break the bank. Add in some OL signings for depth/competition, and the draft, and we’re well on our way.

As you know, the crux is the QB. That would be among the first big decisions.

You convinced me last week that the GM needs to come first, and to me, the differences between Ross, DeCosta and anyone else aren’t as big as the difference in the team with or without a true football GM organizing the inner circle.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need A) QB (i think we know who i’m partial on for this) B) OLB’s (mitchells not great folks, and ellisons a back up plain and simple) 3) Tackles (both offense and defense) D) definate #1 reciever (Evans is more of a #2) and F) or for those paying attention, E) an impact safety in the mold of ed reed, whitners a capable 2nd safety (seems we have alot of good “2nd” players) but we need someone who can intimidate, create fumbles and pick 6’s, someone that leads the D with Poz and that other teams oc’s have to plan around. that’s why i’d love the bills to dish owens for a 2nd or 3rd rounder, if we have a top 5 pick chose a QB, then package a deal with 2 second round pics (or something like that) and move back into the 1st round and grab an impact safety

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by J. Mackin on Oct 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russ Lande says no to Marc Ross

My pal Russ Lande at the Sporting News says NO WAY to Marc Ross as a GM at this point in his career…he said the only person he thinks might be ready is Kevin Abrams…Jerry Reese completely runs the show at NYG so he doesn’t believe anyone else in that organization is qualified at this point in time to run a team.

Russ Lande was a scout for a few NFL teams in his career, now he is a NFL Draft Expert at the Sporting News, and puts together the GM Jr Draft Guide each year. He has many connections around the league and he knows his stuff. De Costa on the other hand, is someone he likes, however he said he is so good at what he does now, he doesn’t know if he could see him as anything else.

by RIP058 on Oct 14, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great article

probably one of the best ive seen on here. great to have some actual knowledge on where the bills organization might go.

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by silverstreak3k on Oct 14, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BG – what a great read. I wish I could double rec it. Really, really nice work. This may have been one of my favorite things I’ve read from you in awhile, and that says a lot.

by krytime on Oct 15, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd and agreed. cheers.

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by JPH on Oct 16, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS anybody?
Another fair warning: this is going to be long.

And now, the nut graph:

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 15, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Nutshell paragraph,” perv.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 15, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go with nutgraf next time

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by Kurupt on Oct 16, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well done brian

good take.

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