Web Rumblings: Buffalo Bills Links, 10/16
by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 7:35 AM EDT
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Bills LT Bell leads NFL in yellow flags - AFC East - ESPN
Even though he missed a game with injury, Demetrius Bell (pictured above) is the most penalized player in the NFL with 8 yellow handkerchiefs to his credit. Officials have flagged Bell four times for false starts, twice for holding and twice for illegal formation.
Ryan looks at Bills' O-line and sees Rushmore - AFC East - ESPN
The Buffalo Bills' offensive line has surrendered the second-most sacks in the NFL and committed the most penalties.
Jets' Jenkins ready to rumble : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
Geoff Hangartner, an old teammate of Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins, discusses the mammoth defender and the havoc he can bring.
WBEN NewsRadio 930 - Bills Fans Call For A Boycott Of First Quarter At Next Home Game
Lisa Klein is calling on fans with tickets to the next home game on November 1st, not to boycott the entire game, but to stay out of Ralph Wilson Stadium for the first quarter, meaning, the team would play the first 15 minutes of the game in front of nobody.
Bills notebook: Meredith may get first start : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
The youngest starting offensive line in the NFL this decade may be getting even younger this week with the likelihood that Jamon Meredith will get the start at RT.
Question Mark: Packers are the NFL's youngest team : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
Mark Gaughan answers questions on the NFL's youngest teams (Bills are the tenth-youngest), players being too comfortable, TV broadcasting, and someone asks about J.P. Losman returning (seriously).
Scott Pitoniak: Let the rebuilding of the Bills begin now
The Rochester sports writer wants the Bills to start rebuilding right now by getting as many draft picks as possible and replacing Tom Modrak and John Guy.
Bills have plenty to follow in AFC East | Democrat and Chronicle
Bills need to follow rest of AFC East's lead in order to get better, says Leo Roth.
An AFC East look down the shotgun barrel - AFC East - ESPN
Trent Edwards has been sacked 13 times in the shotgun formation. Only five NFL quarterbacks have been sacked more often out all formations than Edwards has been dumped out of the shotgun alone.
Bills won't discuss scrapping no huddle offense | ProFootballTalk.com
Dick Jauron and every player asked declined comment on the no-huddle.
Buffalo Bills NFL News Updates - CBSSports.com Rapid Reports
- Bills safety Donte Whitner (thumb) will likely play at his former position, strong safety, if he suits up this week. Whitner will move from free safety because rookie Jairus Byrd - the team's next-best safety with Bryan Scott injured - is a free safety. Whitner can play either position. - Bills QB Trent Edwards on going up against the 3-4 defense: "The hard part about it is that you can disguise so much better in a 3-4 defense. ... They can move their linebackers around so much easier, they can sub guys in and out, they can move people around so much easier."
Flacco-Favre battle one of several intriguing Week 6 matchups | Gil Brandt | NFL.com
Buffalo WR Terrell Owens vs. N.Y. Jets CB Darrelle Revis is the matchup to watch in the Bills game.
BillBoard: Billboard gets a 'go'
The message will start to be shown on a digital billboard on Interstate 190 starting Monday, and will run for a week.
Video: Bills-Jets AccuScore report - AFC East - ESPN
ESPN's Jenny Dell tells us the New York Jets won 71 percent of simulations by an average of nine points over the Buffalo Bills.
Buffalo tailgate battle on Food Network – Inside The Bills
An episode of Food Network's Tailgate Warriors, filmed in Buffalo before the Chicago-Buffalo preseason game, will be aired Saturday at 9PM. Bills fans know how to tailgate.
Maybe the Raider Nation should try this as well?? - Silver And Black Pride
The guys over at the Raiders blog have picked up on the billboard idea. Can Al Davis fire himself?
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we’ll probably lose in the tailgating competition too.
by dragonwag0n on Oct 16, 2009 8:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
LOL. I don’t know if it’s a competition or not but judging a preseason tailgate is a little weak IMO.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea you’re right. I’d just like to see anything bills related win right now. I’d even settle for the coin toss.
by dragonwag0n on Oct 16, 2009 10:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
We won the coin toss against the Browns! :-) Does that help???
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, I didn’t realize that. I didn’t bother going out to watch that game. I wanted to see some scoring so I watched the sabres instead.
by dragonwag0n on Oct 16, 2009 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Demetrius Bell needs to improve dramatically, if he wants the new coaching staff to consider him starter at LT for the future, which I btw. don’t.
All he does is get burned off the corner by speed rushers (or bull-rushed into Trent) and make mind-boggling penalties all the time.
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are his penalties really mind boggling? The two where he lined up incorrectly, sure, but that was in his first game ever. He hasn’t had that again.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still maintain that the 2 illegal formation penalties are bogus
The officials had no business making those calls. Especially without a warning on the first one. Drive killers.
That said though, he needs to be more disciplined. I still have high hopes for D-Bell.
by bruuuuce_02 on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marv Levy
Anyone else here his interview on WGR yesterday?
Comparing Dick Jauron to Chuck Knoll and Bill Cowher? Saying the Bills giving up on Trent would be like the Falcons giving up on Favre, the Bucs giving up on Steve Young, and would be like if the Steelers gave up on Terry Bradshaw.
And you wonder why the Bills are in the state they are in. Looks like as long as Marv has Ralph’s ear, things will always be the same.
by Michael_Necci on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that Marv is not accountable for anything anymore. If he wanted his voice and opinion to be worth something he could have stuck around but he didn’t so… It’s easy to talk so freely! People have to stop listening to his gibberish.
Fact is… Jauron was the guy that agreed to trade Peters and trust Walker Bell, then release Walker trusting that Chambers & Scott could backup the injury prone Butler. Last weekend we watched our team who has not made the playoffs since 1999, haven’t had a winning season since 2004 loose to a winless team who completed 2 out of 17 passes for a whopping 23yards. The QB that Marv has a man crush on was unable to beat a guy that only completed two passes – how pathetic is that? In 2006 when our lead scout wanted to draft a franchise QB (Cutler), Marv & Jauron in all their wisdom chose to pick a superstar safety, who after his three first years he racked up the phenomenal numbers of 254 tackles (84 ave per year), 7 pd and a whopping 2 INTs – Great job Marv!!!!!!! I don’t know about you guys but I don’t give a flying rat’s a$$ what Marv thinks, actually maybe I do, maybe I think that we should do the exact opposite!!
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping Marv has no influence on Raloh
His GM tenure was terrible with poor drafts, terrible FA pickups and a huge mistake in the coaching hire…he’s lead us to where we currently at. Stay away Marv!
~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 16, 2009 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Scott has proven to be a capable backup for Butler. He just sucks on the left side.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even worth getting into this argument. Our line sucks big time and there really is no excuse because there were options that were better than putting all our faith in a bunch of rookies & backups. Today we have no other option but to live with this horrible situation that could have been avoided.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
- Peters was better than trusting a rookie? At least you know the rookie would show up.
- Walker was a decent backup option but not at 5M bucks. That’s how teams hemorrhage money.
- Levi Jones? Mark Tauscher? Can you really say any of these guys would be better than Bell?
- Dockery again did a serviceable job but not 7M serviceable.
- I think the rookies have done a decent job stepping in. The problems we are having are with the tackles, specifically due to injuries. Yeah our backups aren’t great. JScott has performed well at RT if you go back and look at Ron’s breakdowns.
There are a lot of reasons the Bills OL has looked lost. Inexperience, injuries, guys playing out of position. A lot has gone wrong, no question. But the majority of moves the Bills made were good moves when taken individually.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
were good moves when taken individually
maybe but certainly not as a whole. It was a huge error to even think for 1sec that so many changes and rookies could work. It is no surprise that it has come back to bite him in the butt.
Rookie LT,
Rookie LG + learning a new position
Backup center
Rookie RG + learning a new position
Injury-prone RT + learning a new position (or re-learning)
Letting go our previous RT (who was quite decent) because we made a mistake thinking he could be a LT, so now we have no depth at Tackle with a 7th round rookie and an injury proned RG learning a new position.
Brilliant moves!! Bravo! I have absolutely no pity for Dick Jauron, he dug this hole himself so let him read the billboard and feel good about himself now.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t get rid of Walker because he couldn’t play LT. They got rid of him because they thought he was the same or worse than Scott. “Complete regression” not “He couldn’t cut it on the left side.”
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 17, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re missing the point, he couldn’t. That’s the reality of it. And our personnel guys traded Peters away (which I can understand) but had no clue how to replace him. Walker wasn’t the answer. The fact that he regressed maybe had to do with the fact that they made him play a position that he knew he wasn’t suited for.. If the plan was to use Bell then fine come out and say it and give the kid the proper reps in camps and in pre-season. Jauron/Brandon & Guy screwed up pure and simple.
The smart move would have been to either bring in a vet lineman or draft Oher at #11.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 17, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The smart move would have been to either bring in a vet lineman or draft Oher at #11.
To quote Brian (and the dude), “Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
Why draft a rookie to start when you have essentially a rookie who is gonna start if Walker doesn’t work out? If you think Bell is better than Oher would be you stick with Bell and draft a DE to help your struggling pass rush. Bell was the back-up plan all along.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 18, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elements of Marv’s words ring true. They also ring false. It would be nice if the Bills were in a situation where they could be more patient with Trent, because he does have talent, desire and intelligence. He has a place in this league – whether or not that’s as a starter remains to be seen, but he’ll be in this league for a long-time as a backup if that doesn’t work out. And yeah, it sucks giving up on young quarterbacks.
But the reality of the current NFL is that teams are impatient. Buffalo can’t afford to be more patient than the average NFL team, because it’ll be a decade now that we haven’t made the playoffs, and we’re about to go through with another regime change. So Marv’s words, while based in truth, aren’t exactly applicable to this team. Patience can only get you so far in this business, and Trent and Jauron have both had opportunities to win games they’ve ultimately lost. That’s the bottom line.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the bottom line.
Cause stone cold said so?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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