Make a push for Quinn?

by csc06258 on Oct 17, 2009 1:32 AM EDT Comment 60 comments

Brady Quinn was regarded the best Q.B in the draft a couple years ago. He has good arm strength, he is smart and has all the things you look for at the Q.B position. He was a first round prospect all the way and probably fell farther than he should have on draft day (Russell). Instead of wasting a 1st round pick on a Q.B this year if Trent doesn't pan out, which it looks like he isn't going to, why not trade for Quinn? I am not saying we are going to take a Q.B in the first, but if we are in the Top Ten, it would be very tempting, especially if we have a new coach. The Browns obviously made it clear that Anderson is their guy. So they have a prime prospect that hasn't really even gotten a shot sitting on the sidelines. Believe me, the Browns are building for the future and they want all the picks they can get. Why not throw them a 3rd and a 5th? or something reasonable. You would have had to use a 1st on this guy in the previous draft and now you can get him for less because of the situation he is in. It would be a steal in that sense.

This move is smart on two fields. First, you make it clear to Trent that we are not satisfied with how he is playing. I am sick and tired of listening to this guy after games say, "I have to look at the tape" "the corner made a great play on the ball"- no trent you under threw the ball by 10 yards! And most of all I am sick of that smirk he has on his face!! There SHOULD be a sense of urgency Trent, because if you don't pan out you lose your job and any chance at starting in this league again!!

Secondly, if this team does bomb with their record and they're in a position to take a Bradford or a Locker or a Tebow, we won't have to draft them and pay them top dollar because we have Quinn. Quinn's contract is not nearly as close to what you will be paying for a top 10 Q.B- see Sanchez and Staffords contracts.

This in my opinion would be a smart move financially. We get a solid Q.B with first round grades, probably comparable to a Bradford caliber Q.B for a lot less than a 1st round and a lot less money wise. Ralph would indorse this idea because this is how he thinks. And honestly, I think this could work out well. My guess is a team like the Rams might make a push for Quinn but if he is not traded by the deadline, that is a talented Q.B sitting the bench. And for you people who thinks Quinn is not that good, i'll tell you he has more upside than Trent, and he is worth a 3rd round pick all day. I would even consider giving them a 2nd. But if we got Stroud for a 3rd and 5th, I would offer similar to that for Quinn, maybe you could even squeeze out giving less since Stroud is a proven DT in this league and Quinn is nothing so far. Could it hurt to call and see what they want for him??? Thoughts?

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I could see, if he isn’t traded which I doubt he will be…that he could be had in the offseason, for either a straight up player for player trade, or a pick….a new coach…like Gruden let’s say, might want to have multiple QBs including Edwards and Fitzpatrick to have a look at through OTAs…

IF we get a new coach, and there is a so-called QB competition, a decision on the starter better be made by training camp so that player can get the most reps with the first team. The Browns are a great example of how not to do this. If Quinn was taking a majority of the reps, he might have done a lot better…and he might still have done better against our Bills last Sunday than Mr. 2/17 Anderson

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 17, 2009 1:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brady Quinn was not regarded as the best qb in the draft on anybody’s board.

by BringHargroveBack on Oct 17, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ok here are my thoughts

1.) You are willing to give up way too much. Quinn is not worth a 3rd and 5th and definitely not worth a 2nd. If hes not good enough to start for the Browns why are you giving up such value for him? I’d give up a 4th maybe a 4th and 6th or 5th.

2.) Quinn’s only area of potential in which he is stronger than Trent is arm strength and even that is debatable. I’m all for bringing him in for competition but I’d rather not even give up good picks and send them our backup, Fitz, and a lower pick. Also, we are already wasting Trent’s talent behind our o-line, why rob the league of another good young QB by putting him back there as well?

3.) Call me crazy but I’d rather trade one of our players to move up our 2nd round pick to a late 1st and grab Tim Tebow. I can see the rush of criticism now but hell, the guy is a winner, hes passionate and he pumps up the guys around him. He’s the opposite of a guy like Jauron and maybe our team would be going places if we had a guy like him on the roster. I also think Tebow would give our team a new identitiy to build around and he would bring excitement and buzz to the locker room and fanbase. Fact is, he is the greatest winner I’ve seen in football. He decides to win and hes does. And yes hes surrounded by immense talent and a great coach but we could have a great coach next year and we have talent and hopefully our o-line matures. I’m not saying replace Trent. But Tebow could compete and even if he loses he can be used in packages. A throwing fullback?? Ha!

3.)

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 6:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think a 6th is about right

Just because you would be doing the Browns a favor by taking his 1st round contract off their cap if you really thought you could make him work in your O…..I sure wouldn’t want him…..If I was gonna get a project quarterback, I would have wanted Tyler Thigpen.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love how no one ever talks about Tebow's football skills.

He’s a winner, he pumps his teammates up, he wills his teams to win, he’ll give his team an identity. Let’s come up with some real football talking points and not Tebowhugging commentator sound bites. Your team is 1-5, 2-8, you really think Tebow could pump up a guy like Larry Johnson or Jevon Kearse just because he’s a winner? This ain’t college anymore and Tebow’s not going to be the old man on campus who everyone looks up to.

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by twoeightnine on Oct 17, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Imagine a rookie Tebow trying to pull that in a veteran locker room next year. Good luck.

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by Kurupt on Oct 17, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He very well could lose his virginity in the locker room.

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by twoeightnine on Oct 17, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he did it as a freshman in the gators 2006 locker room

a locker room with guys like jarvous moss and reggie nelson, not to mention an already good starting qb in leak. i just dont think anyone should discount anything this kid can do.

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by silverstreak3k on Oct 17, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

while you’re at it, let’s talk about Big Ben’s football skills. leadership and determination, the will to win, are intangibles that often overcome talent.

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by dzil on Oct 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roesthlisberger also has one of the best arms, both in strength and accuracy, in the entire league. Tebow is a completely different type of QB from a style standpoint as Roethlisberger was coming out of Miami too.

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by kaisertown on Oct 17, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A.) weak response, that is unbelievable. How come anytime some says anything about drafting Tebow its because hes tebowhugging and repeating commentator sound bites? Why is everyone so scared of admitting hes a special player?

B.) People do talk about his football skills but people also talked about Vince Young and Brady Quinn’s football skills. All winning college QBs have the skills, its Tebows intangibles that separate him. And if you dont think intangibles are real just look at Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia or even freaking Tom Brady.

C.) The whole point is that Tebow pumps guys up so they dont fall to 2-8. I;m sorry but I bet if you have a guy who finds ways to win and can rally a team we don’t lose 6-3 to a winless team after getting blown out by our division rival. Wake up man! You don’t think its a coincidence that when the Jets lose to the Dolphins they are angry and looking to take it out on the Bills the next week according to everyone but when the Bills get blown out by the Dolphins we meekly fall to an winless team 6-3 instead of looking to hurt someone? Players like Tebow do make a difference.

D.) maybe you missed my point of him competing and potentially losing the job and still having a role. You want to draft injury prone Sam Bradford go for it. I think its worth taking a flier on a guy like Tebow. I also dont get the he doesnt have football skills crap. His arm looks fine to me. I never said hes going to magically walk into the NFL and pump veterans up. Typical response to anything positive about Tebow. I just think hes intriguing as a prospect.

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m with you, Poz. “Refuse to lose” is something that this team sorely needs.

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by dzil on Oct 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i didn’t know what it would take, but a 6th would be a steal. Most players drafted in the sixth round dont make the team

by csc06258 on Oct 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That just isn’t true. 29 of the 36 players taken in the sixth round last year made the team.

by kaisertown on Oct 18, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It does not really matter where he was listed on draft boards. If it did matter we would push for a straight up JaMarcus Russell – Trent Edwards trade. and end up with a worse quarterback. At least we are not as bad as Oakland.

by Bill Frank on Oct 17, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JaMarcus Russell

Be serious. Nobody is that bad, not even Hamdam

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by dzil on Oct 17, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First of all

if we are in the Top Ten

? The way we are going we will be in the top 5, the only two teams ahead of us might be the Buccaneers & Rams.

Sorry bud but I am fed up of these mediocre offensive teams, I want a real QB, nothing less. I want a QB in the first round, a guy like Bradford. I don’t want anybody elses rejects, I want to see our FO commit to the future. There is so much that rides on the QB position that we can’t expect to have any success until we get another FRANCHISE QB.

Before trading for Brady, I’d much prefer to see us go after David Carr. He is a FA in 2010 and I could see us pursuing him actively then still drafting a QB in the first round.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Oct 17, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

David Carr?

Please tell me you are not serious.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

obviously backup material

if in Keysh’s scenario we get Bradford (hope everyone is watching today at our possible future QB against Texas, along with Clausen against USC) then Bradford will start week 1, and he will be the the player we build around

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 17, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradford

is good but injury prone.

by LABillsFan on Oct 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For the right price I would give Carr a shot as a starter

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by sireric on Oct 17, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you are kidding

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by Kurupt on Oct 17, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the Bills draft a QB in the first round and were looking to bring somebody in to compete, I’d love for it to be Carr. Although, that’s only because I would want the rookie to win the competition and I can’t think of too many QBs who would be more likely to lose out to a rookie than Carr.

by kaisertown on Oct 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly my point, upgrade the backup situation and draft a franchise QB. I think Carr competes for the starting job in Y1 while the rookie learns, if our Rookie is mature beyond his years and wins out then great but otherwise I want to make sure we have a QB than can throw downfield. I’d like to see us convert to a power running game with shots downfield.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Oct 17, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t let David Carr playing well for the Giants fool you. He’s mentally broken. His internal clock in the pocket is off and he gets rattled. Not his fault- fault the Texans’ lack of an OL- but that’s what Carr is.

Edwards, playing on the Giants, would look much like he did the first six games from last year.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

totally agree

i love how we are going to dump Edwards when his oline is clearly the worst in football and all of a sudden we want to drag in David Carr, who is damaged goods because he too once played behind the worst oline in football and stick him back there. If you guys think Edwards looks bad this year I’d love to see your reactions to Carr’s play behind this joke of an oline.

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Our OL is not good right now due to youth. Check back in a year or two and it’s a different story, IMO.

But right now, almost any QB would struggle in our offense.

But at least Carr would be used to the pass rush he’d see.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two people want David Carr

for whatever reason….The majority wants nothing to do with that guy I’m sure.

David Carr sucks, Edwards stinks. Neither is the guy to lead us to the promised land….

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by Kurupt on Oct 18, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

IMHO Quinn will be out of the league ala JP by end of his first contract

by freddyjj on Oct 17, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Way

This move is smart on two fields

Acquiring Quinn would be stupid. There are reasons why he is not playing for one of the league’s worst teams.

We need offensive tackles! I am also a Tebow fan (and I hate Florida). I love his attitude and I think his skill set has been sold short. If we have a shot at Bradford, yes, get him. But we don’t have to move up to get Tebow. He’ll be there in the 2nd round, maybe the third.

David Carr? Give me a break. He couldn’t unseat Jake Delhomme.

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by ChipShot on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed!

Doesn’t matter who’s in the pocket. If he’s not upright, he’s not making plays. Example: Kyle Orton. Not a great QB. He tore apart NE’s secondary sunday night because he had time to find the open man. Hell, Trent looked good monday night when Butler was still in there and he was being kept upright.

Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!

by fansince83 on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

monday night, week 1

Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!

by fansince83 on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reason: Neither QB is really who Mangini wanted.

Quinn has started exactly 6 games in the NFL.

Check his first game against Denver last year. He was dynamite. 23-35, 239 yards and 2 TD’s. He broke his throwing hand thumb against us- his second start.

His stats against us and Houston can’t really be viewed as a bad since he threw half the game against us and the game against Houston with that broken thumb.

So really, he’s had 1 good game against Denver and three bad games this year- for, as you point out, with a bad team.

Any comment on Quinn is premature due to these facts. He’s still very much an unproven commodity, good or bad.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d be down if I thought Quinn was better than Trent Edwards. I don’t.

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

See my comment above

I don’t think anyone can accurately rate/grade Quinn at this point.

NFL.com reported that Quinn could be had for about a 5th round pick.

Just based on Quinn’s potential, I’d make that deal. Even if it does nothing more that elevate Edwards’ play (a la Rivers with Brees) it’s worth the price, IMO.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.....that is the long and short if it Der Jaeger. I would give up a 5th for Quinn in a heart beat.

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by Joe P. on Oct 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Totally agree, Trent needs a kick up the backside and Fitz is not going to do it. Bring Quinn in will, i think, make Trent better and if it doesn’t we have another QB who can start in the NFL.

Quinn is less of a gamble than any rookie QB and has just the same upside.

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by gregeng on Oct 18, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can’t he has played 6 games. Trent has had three seasons of mostly bad games. I dont think Ralph will take a QB in the top 5 for money reason, so if its going to be another project, Quinn would be a good choice i think

by csc06258 on Oct 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

New QB will be brought into Buffalo

Any new coaching staff or GM brought in will have to see that Trent might not be the long term answer and bring in a rookie with potential to groom or a current QB like Quinn or Carr that haven’t done anything to prove themselves so far but could given the right opportunity or coaching? Personally, I’d like to see the rookie option.

Trent hasn’t done much to prove to anyone in this league that he is that “franchise QB” where you don’t have to have any talent behind him. (Another front office mistake from this past off-season).

So my guess is that we wlll be talking about QB competition and “contoversy” this off-season and though next year.

by dabillsr1 on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Trent hasn’t done much to prove to anyone in this league that he is that "franchise QB" where you don’t have to have any talent behind him. (Another front office mistake from this past off-season).

In Trent’s defense, he wasn’t drafted to be a franchise QB. He was drafted when JP was coming off a good year and was drafted to be a great backup. He proved himself to be a winner and we went with him to see what could develop. I also don’t think its quite over for Trent yet, its too bad he doesn’t have an even bad o-line – its horrendous. My guess, if a new regime gets rid of Edwards we won’t have heard the last of him. He’ll be a guy who backs up for another team as the top back up in the league, maybe gets a shot on a good squad when the starter gets hurt years later, and plays admirably behind a good o-line, getting a starting gig again. He was never drafted to be a franchise guy but hes been better than we thought.

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't fool yourself

He was drafted to be the franchise QB, handpicked by Jauron…

And I think Trent has proved that behind a shaky O-line, and being lead by shakier coaching, he is coming up short….

And as a time to defend Trent, I will say that injuries are hurting this offense and #5….the line and Schouman specifically. Schouman’s presence would have opened up the WRs even more, and good things could have happened…it is a real shame, the post about Nelson from days ago was one of the most poignant in that regard…we still have no TE producing

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 17, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They drafted a franchise QB in th 3rd round? Are you serious? Nobody is that stupid.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 17, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh?

Not every team drafts a QB in round 1 to be the franchise. The Dolphins picked Chad Henne last year late in round 2 to be their future.

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by Kurupt on Oct 17, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Kolb the year before

to be McNabb’s successor or even the one that gave him the boot.

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by twoeightnine on Oct 17, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My point was that they weren’t out actively shopping for a top-flight QB. Edwards fell into their lap when he dropped on draft day.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 19, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too add to this

I would also say that players are drafted on how they can start, especially day one. You can’t draft players considering how they will be backups on your team…you draft them with the notion that they can develop into starters….we’ll see how Trent comes back from adversity, if he doesn’t he most likely won’t come back as a starter, or successful starter in this league, but only these last 11 games will tell

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 17, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What round was that franchise QB named Tom Brady drafted??

by Bob on Oct 17, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

your missing the point there

he wasnt drafted with the intention of being a franchise QB

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo. Losman was coming off of his solid 2006. It was because Edwards had the highest grade on their chart. Nobody said “Let’s replace our first round pick from a couple years ago just as he’s finding his groove.” It was insurance and it was a smart play.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joe Montana?

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mangini will not trade Quinn

Like it or Hate it, Mangini on SB Nation and in front of the media stated, he will not trade Brady Quinn. That was the Browns first round draft pick 2 years ago, there is too much money invested in Quinn for the Browns’ organization to make a dumb move like that one. Acquiring Brady Quinn to play quarterback for Buffalo and for him to rescue the franchise to prominence is not going to happen. This is not South Bend, Indiana where the University of Notre Dame play. In Cleveland or in Buffalo, Quinn is not surrounded by Charlie Weis calling the plays, let’s get that straight. There is no spread offense or roll out to the flat throwing the football in the pro game here, you earn it from the pocket, fact. When you bring another quarterback in Buffalo, whether trade or Draft, the Bills will face the same situation of development. The management as well as the coaches, was very “cocksure” they put together a winning franchise when the Bills picked up Terrell Owens and drafted Aaron Maybin plus two offensive linemen. The word development never cross their minds, especially the young offensive line with less than 5 years of experience playing. Let’s rally around the quarterback we have now and hope he does wake up or gain a spark somewhere. There are 11 more games to go, Trent Edwards and the Buffalo Bills will have to show some Preseverance and toughness the rest of the way. The season is not over, there is still some good football left in this team. When next year’s draft comes in, let’s go after McCoy or Suh ( defensive tackles), the Bills need a run stuffer to clog the middle so our middle linebackers will not get broken up.

by Hurricane$$ on Oct 17, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Clearly you didn't watch Quinn at Notre Dame

The offense Notre Dame has run under Weis is as pro-style as it gets for a college program.

Note the changes in the New England offense after Weis left as offensive coordinator. With Weis, the Patriots played TE heavy and ran a run first offense that was very conventional as far as the pro game is concerned. Brady played mostly from the pocket. When Weis left, that’s when the spread became big under McDaniels.

The Notre Dame offense is the same under Weis- lots on running and conventional plays. Don’t believe me? Youtube any Notre Dame game from 2005-2006. Or just the 2006 ND-USC game. You’ll see Quinn excelling running a very conventional pro style offense.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, here’s a fun newsflash!

Ryan Leaf was considered “The Best” at one point as well.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Oct 17, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Parcells had a choice too

Drew Bledsoe or Rick Mirer. Bledsoe turned out OK, but Mirer was a bust too.

by JTM1023 on Oct 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bledsoe was only ok??

I think your selling him short there.

You don’t have to be one of the greatest winners ever to be a great QB. Bledsoe was a great player.

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by poz on Oct 17, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Oct 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can’t think of a single reason why this isn’t a good idea, but I still wouldn’t do it. I’ve never been a big fan of Quinn and think he was more of a 2nd round prospect who got overhyped because he was in a draft that lacked good QBs. John Beck has already busted in a big way, Drew Stanton hasn’t looked good and JaMarcus Russell? I think Edwards was every bit of the propect that Quinn was if you take away the Notre Dame/Charlie Weis vs. Stanford portion of it.

by kaisertown on Oct 17, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

This is only my personal rankings, but I graded Quinn way ahead of Edwards, and still rate him there.

Physically, he’s Edwards equal in terms of mechanics and footwork. Quinn has a bigger physique built to take a pounding. Quinn is as accurate as Edwards and has a much stronger arm, and can throw the deep outs and digs that Edwards won’t try. And Quinn is more mobile.

Mentally, Quinn proved that he could play on the big time stage and not crack. He’s as smart as Edwards and I grade them equals in terms of mental acumen for the position. Quinn will get rattled at times and is, for sure, a streaky passer that will go cold at times. But Edwards also gets rattled, but just isn’t a streaky.

In terms of leadership, Quinn is a better and more vocal leader. Though not as publicized as a guy like Tebow, Quinn will get into his teammates and vocally lead them. In terms of delivering, see the USC-ND game (Leinart dive at the end to win it)- Quinn and the offense had to score to take the lead late, and Quinn led a tremendous drive under the pressure against a great defense. So he’s not all bark and no bite- he will lead by example as well.

So, based on arms strength and leadership, I rated Quinn as a better prospect.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 18, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but eventually there comes a point where you can’t talk about potential anymore. They stop being a prospect and start being what they are. To me it looks like both Quinn and Edwards can not consistently carry a team. That’s what you want in a starter.

I think Edwards would make a great backup like Frank Reich. He could come in and win some and he is the type to always stay prepared (unlike Losman). But I have not seen any 350 yard games from him.

by Bill Frank on Oct 18, 2009 6:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs