Jauron won't say "concussion" in reference to Edwards
In a brief press conference on Monday morning, Buffalo Bills head coach Dick Jauron called the injury to starting quarterback Trent Edwards a "head injury" - not a concussion - and mentioned that he'd receive further evaluation today and throughout the week. Jauron did not provide a timetable for Edwards' injury, nor did he make any attempt to name a starting quarterback for the Bills' Week 7 matchup with the Carolina Panthers.
Edwards was injured in the second quarter of the Bills' 16-13 overtime win over the New York Jets after being sacked on a third-and-two play. With defenders at his ankles, Edwards was hit high and driven backwards, essentially getting bent in half as he went to the turf. The appearance of the play led early speculation that Edwards had a leg injury, but reports later on in the afternoon indicated that Edwards had suffered his second concussion in as many years. However, as mentioned, Jauron did not use the word "concussion" today in his brief update on Edwards.
While we wait to hear more about Edwards' injury - and more importantly, whether or not he'll be able to practice this week and play Sunday in Carolina - the Bills can be comforted by the fact that they have, at the very least, a backup in Ryan Fitzpatrick that can make a play or two for you. Though he was miles from what we'll call "good" in the Bills' win over the Jets, Fitzpatrick drove Buffalo's offense to 13 points, including a 37-yard touchdown strike to WR Lee Evans in the third quarter to tie the game. Fitzpatrick completed just 10 of 25 passes for 116 yards with the TD and an ugly interception that, in normal circumstances, would have cost the Bills the game in OT.
While some fans will continue to insist that Fitzpatrick should be Buffalo's starting quarterback for the foreseeable future, the likelihood of that happening is small. Edwards is clearly the more talented player, and Jauron has done his best to avoid flip-flopping quarterbacks in his tenure as Bills coach. As it stands right now, Edwards is the unquestioned starter in Buffalo - and no controversy exists whatsoever. If Edwards misses time due to injury, however, Fitzpatrick will have an opportunity to hang onto the job. Let's not forget that that's precisely how Edwards won the starting job in the first place.
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It could be more of a neck issue
I can only say this judging by what I saw, but with the twisting and that, I would say that they didn’t want to risk any chance of it happening and may have even come back if this were, lets say a playoff game…
but with that said, I have a feeling, only a feeling, that Edwards could be practicing Thursday on a limited basis Thursday, and fully on Friday leaving his status either questionable/probable, and then will start in Carolina…
Edwards is clearly the more talented player
….and thanks for that, I thought Edwards was looking much more decisive in his brief stint Sunday, and I thought he had the Jets on their heels, and was looking all over the field….lets hope to see him against the Panthers…
Go Bills!
Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!
by killascript on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but not talented enough
i’m never want a player to get hurt, but this further demostrates why edwards is not the franchise. 1st round pick this year has to go to clausen, i would’ve put bradford on there too but he’s looking a little fraile this year. it’s no coincidence that the greats, manning x2, brady, farve, rivers, warner, etc, play through pain and have long starting streaks. you not only have to be a great qb to be the franchise, you have to be a tough one as well
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about having to be tough, but when your pinned down, then have 2 players equaling about 500 pounds land on your head with the twisting motion added in, its understandable why he was groggy, and has a possible concussion. A fine should, and most likely will be dished out for the intentional twisting of his head.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not saying that wasn’t nasty, but what about all the other games he’s missed the past 3 seasons?
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A terrible offensive line that can’t keep him upright. All those QB’s you listed have good, if not great OL’s. Yes they take hits too, but not even close to as many as Edwards takes. People wonder why he is gun shy, just look at David Carr the first year with the Texans, most sacked QB in the league, IMO that ruined him.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s no coincidence that the greats, manning x2, brady, farve, rivers, warner, etc, play through pain and have long starting streaks.
That’s also luck.
Any of those guys could have been hit like Edwards yesterday. Any of them could get driven into the ground like Bradford has been twice. Lucky for them, only a serious Brady knee injury has caused much missed time. Warner has had thumb issues, Rivers tore his ACL, etc, but you are right, they’ve all played through injuries. I’m just not sure they’d have played through yesterday’s hit or an injury like Bradford’s….
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
point taken
…..but the great ones find a way to play
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
but it does also take a degree of luck to be able to actually go out there week in, week out.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and in my opinion, edwards not talented enough to be the franchise
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just count Warner? Remember why he left St Louis and NYG?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Edwards "clearly" more talented?
I actually listened to this game on the radio (last week’s game also). I noticed a few things about how the commentators described Fitzpatrick’s passes that were different from when they talk about Edwards’ passes. 1. They, on numerous occasions during the game, described the pass as a “Bullet”. Fitzpatrick threw a bullet. I can’t remember ever hearing a Trent Edwards pass described that way…
2. “Fitzpatrick fed that pass between two defenders with tight coverage”. Trent definitely has not made throws like that. In fact, those are the plays where he would check down for a 2 yard gain.
3. Fitzpatrick hit Evans on a slant (5 yard pass for 37 yard gain and a TD). Edwards doesn’t seem to know what a slant pattern is.
4. On numerous plays, even when incomplete, Fitzpatrick was described as making the wise play, putting it where only his receiver can get it. Not Trent’s strong suit.
5. On several would-be sacks, Fitzpatrick scrambled FORWARD and turned the play into a 1 yard gain. 5 yard losses with Trent at the helm.
Considering Fitzpatrick did not get the majority of the practice snaps, he came off the bench and put in a good enough effort to win the game. Particularly considering how stifling the Jets defense has been this season, he did pretty well and looked like a leader. It would be interesting to see how Fitzpatrick does with a week of practice as the designated starter. I say keep Trent on the bench for a week (call it medical caution). Trent still doesn’t have a 300 yard passing game in his NFL career. How many years are we supposed to wait for Trent to magically develop arm strength?
by Polish Lover on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you hear what you want to
all the examples you have made, first off, have been made for Edwards when doing well so your selective “Edwards bash-hearing” is not accurate…Edwards has made plays with his feet, been accurate in putting the bal where only his guy could get it (HArdy TD last year for example) and done other things that Fitz did only better.
Not to mention, those bullets of Fitz’s were slow in coming as well and they were not very powerful….you should try watching the games if you can
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by killascript on Oct 19, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he could do that.
Before the concussion.
After that he’s been nothing but pure garbage. Find me one good game since the Chargers game that he has performed like a starting QB in the NFL. Maybe the Broncos game, MAYBE.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Week two against the Bucs….and your theory about the concussion is pure garbage….two weeks after the concussion was the Chargers game…his inconsistency overall as a QB is his downfall, not the concussion.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards thre two slants at the start of the Jets game.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Told y’all he looked groggy walking off the field yesterday!
Don’t play him again until he’s 100%. It’s not worth his health.
Fitz isn’t stealing Edwards job, no matter how bad Edwards has played.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next year neither of them should have the job, so it hardly matters.
I hope Fitzy tears up the Panthers next week just so the Edwards supporters will sit down.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards should be on the team next year
Either as a seat warmer for a hot shot rookie or as the backup.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jauron said he was promoting Fitzpatrick to Captain and Trent will now be referred to as Colonel Checkdown.
by Zumone on Oct 19, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God willing he’ll be Sgt. Checkdown if he keeps going.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is private checkdown too obscene?
by dragonwag0n on Oct 19, 2009 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm......Staff Sgt. might be a little less overt :-)
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by Joe P. on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless we’re talking Navy. Then it would be Seaman Checkdown.
by Zumone on Oct 19, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It prolly is Navy....
He ain’t tough enough for the Corps :-)
by Cinga on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t understand how the Ravens get flagged for grazing Tom Brady’s leg, but Calvin Pace practically rips Edwards head off in a twisting motion as he slams him to the ground and nothing gets called. I’m not saying that Pace should have been flagged, or that the refs were right for flagging the Ravens, just that there seems to be a huge discrepancy there.
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by sireric on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the NFL, where the big name QBs might as well have cages around them.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that was the picture I was referring to. :D
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The discrepancy is that Trent is not (trumpets from heaven) Tom Brady.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 19, 2009 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I get that. I just don’t know how the NFL and the refs can justify that to the fans.
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by sireric on Oct 19, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I checked they never even attempt to justify it to the fans. :/
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year it was Adrian Wilson who went helmet-to-helmet on Edwards knocking him out. Yeah the discrepancy is there and it doesn’t help us at all.
by Zumone on Oct 19, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson was flagged for the hit—the Jets weren’t.
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by Ron From NM on Oct 19, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait til wednesday
the comish isn’t gonna let it slide without a fine
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what its worth, Edwards has ‘drawn’ the most roughing the passer penalties in the league since the beginning of 2007.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2009/nfl-protecting-big-name-quarterbacks
by Pistol on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mildly unrelated, but does it look like Fitz goes to an Uncle Rico release when he’s trying to get some more zip on the ball to anyone else?
Holy run-on sentence, Batman…
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 19, 2009 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Uncle Rico throws a steak better then a football. Of course he later joins the Darma initiative and gets gassed by his own son…..
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by sireric on Oct 19, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly
For some reason I never noticed that Uncle Rico was Ben’s dad. Wow, what is wrong with me?!? Please don’t answer that.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t. But you should be ashamed.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I guess the mustache and powder blue clothing really changed his look for me.
I’m still shaking my head in disgust.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give yourself 20 lashes!
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by sireric on Oct 19, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never noticed that either!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d a million times over.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA! Awsome observation!
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by the Uncommon Denominator on Oct 19, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jauron
I highly recommend you watch today’s press conference and see how he danced around the Roscoe Parrish questions. It was like he was on “Dancing with the Stars”
by Michael_Necci on Oct 19, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you want him to say there?
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Yes, we're dumping the bum at first notice."
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now you see
and i’ve not saying it’s anyone in paticular here, but the masses (or “worms” for any floydians on the site today) we’re outrages and up in arms that OBD would comtemplate trading our beloved, 3 apples tall, 4 milliion a year punt returner and good for 5 catches a season, roscoe parrish. now everyones ready to give him cab to get him out of here like he’s a one nite stand trying to stay the night. Kind of went off on a little rant here and forgot what or if i had point, guess i just find it funny how fickle people are
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parrish is not proving his worth
I was one of the people who thought they should not trade Parrish. However, the only reason to keep him was because of his explosive return skills. So far this season he has been invisible as a returner and muffed a punt costing the team a game. Whatever he had is gone and his attempts to do crazy scrambles to gain more yards end up costing him yards and often the football. I don’t know if he’s lost a step or if other teams have caught on to all his moves but he just doesn’t break them like he used to. So why waste the roster spot?
by Polish Lover on Oct 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we shouldn't waste a spot
i had parrish’s ticket punched the second owens was signed, figured mckelvin, jackson, johnson, byrd, a cheerleader, the guy taking tickets at the gate, in other words anyone would’ve been fine returning kicks. (yes this is a bit of a hyperboly) this guys (parrish) is getting close to 4 million a year to touch the ball 4 times on sunday. hell i’ll do it for the league minimum and singal fair catch everytime and buffalo would still be better off then having that clown back there running 15yds in the wrong direction and muffing kicks
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this guys (parrish) is getting close to 4 million a year to touch the ball 4 times on sunday
It’s the second time you said it now and no he’s not. His base salary this year is just over a million. With bonuses I think he made 2.5M or so for the 2009 season. The last two years of his contract he has a salary of 1.05M if I remember right.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 21, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jauron can be excused
He would have been more succinct, but he fumbled his words.
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by ChipShot on Oct 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note:
It was also noted that Jauron would say “sucky QB” when refering to Trent Edwards
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by J2 on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahhh – fail. “wouldn’t say”
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by J2 on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the benefit of Fitz playing with some guts
is that Trent can watch his film to figure out that it can be done.
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by poz on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont really think anyone will dispute Edwards is more talented than Fitz. However, with the makeup of our team Fitz might be the better fit. I never want any player to be hurt, especially a head injury. But since it happened the coaches owe it to themselves, the team, and the fans a chance to let Fitz Practice as the starter all week and try to get a 2nd win in a row regardless of if Edwards is cleared this week.
by Berg79 on Oct 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Head Injury" vs concussion
I believe that jauron would wait until all the tests confirm the diagnosis before he called it definitively a concussion. I’ve noticed the NFL higher ups are a bit prickly on head injuries and their effects.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 19, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of my reservations with Trent “i’m a backup” Edwards – he needs to be healthy and hopefully start this week.
i’m guessing he twisted some muscles – it didn’t look like a concussion hit. but just akward – he’ll be sore – but my guess is he’ll be fine-ish come Wednesday.
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by J2 on Oct 19, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like Edwards got his head twisted off rather than crushed
His “head injury” might not be a concussion, per se… but looked more like his neck and head twisting that caused some damage. He looked out of sorts when he was walking on the sidelines. I have had the twisting injury myself and can tell you that it isn’t any fun.
Pace should be fined like Wilson was in AZ last year. Amazing that a penalty was not given. If you breath on Tom Brady, he will look at the ref and a flag will be thrown. See the penalty given on the TN DL in the 3rd quarter yesterday. It was worse than the farce that was given the prior week on Brady.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Worried about QB situation!!!!!
Not Trent though,the great Sam Bradford….. any word on him???
by rick p on Oct 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
should be worried
Sams looking a little injury prone, outside of clausen i don’t see a “tough” ie play through injury qb worthy of a 1st round pick this year, before anyone jumps on me, yes i think bradford and tebow will be 1st rounders, but they have had injury issues this year
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Locker
He wanted to play through a broken wrist at safety last year. That’s got some toughness behind it. I don’t think he’s going to be a very good NFL QB though.
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by Kurupt on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think were on the same page K
it’s not easy to find a qb with all the traits, the arm, the pocket presence, the ‘swagger" (confidence/leadership) , scrambling ability (not like vick or young, but knowing went to tuck, run and slide), and toughness, but it’s safe to say we’ve been striking out for years trying to find this combination.
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MALLET!
dude is like 6’5 can make every throw on the field and right now is leading a resurging ark offense that is pass first run second. mallet def has the nfl body, he just need to work on accuracy.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you want to wait a couple more years for a QB?
He’s a sophomore. The guy who impresses me the most is Locker.
by twoeightnine on Oct 20, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would wait,
if i think the wait is well worth it. anyways i have a question on that, he technically is a sophomore but he played in 2007, had to sit out 2008 because of a transfer, and is now playing in 2009. does that year he sat out count to how many years he has had in college? i.e. is it possible he comes out next year?
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t short the man, i believe he’s 6’7. might be a little slow in the pocket, but he does have a heck of an arm.
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by quantumuprising on Oct 20, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s going to bust harder than Ryan Leaf.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what makes your think that?
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m always wary of system Quarterbacks. He’s not nearly as screwed as Tebow is in the NFL but I’d much rather get a straightforward guy like Snead or LeFevor.
Besides, the guy has bones made of Talc.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but it’s a pro offensive system they run in south bend. i like LeFevor, but he’s a poor mans tebow. Not sold on snead either
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What on earth do Tebow and LeFevor have in common? Tebow is just a poor man’s QB in general.
So you’re just not going to assume a QB is good unless they’re a Heisman cantidate? Snead has been the most impressive QB working out of a pro-like system thus far in my eyes.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not that dude, Lefevor’s an excellent college QB, tebow and him are one in the same, i call him a poormans tebow because he doesn’t get the press or accalades. if lefevor and tebow switched schools it’d be lefevor up for heismans, he’s that good. there just not pro style qb’s. as for snead, he hasn’t looked good this year
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree
Snead has been garbage this year. LeFevour has been good for a couple years now.
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by willgarr15 on Oct 19, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can all agree on this
it doesn’t matter who any of us want at qb, but it’s safe to say that none of us want trent behind center
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I do. Well, to be precise, I want him to step up his game. Hopefully a couple weeks on the sideline will put him in the right place mentally.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 19, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't work last year.
Also, LeFavour and Tebow play in completely different styles of offense, I still have no idea what you’re talking about.
Just because Snead is having one mediocre year in college doesn’t mean he’ll be a bad NFL QB. Other than a couple games this season (Read: 1 bad game against the best team in the country) he’s been impressive. The only thing that concerns me with him is his INT count.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
South Carolina is the best team in the nation?
by twoeightnine on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Memphis? or Vanderbilt?
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems to me snead let the talk go to his head
hed be better off to stay another year and work out his problems.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he hasn't been impressive.
watch him against SCU or even Vanderbilt. 7-21 vs SCU, 3 picks against VU, 11-34 and 4 picks vs. Bama, 12-22 2 picks against Memphis. The only people he’s played well against are Southeast Louisiana and UAB…and he didn’t even play that well against SELA.
He’s completing 45% of his passes with talent like Dexter McCluster on the field.
he stinks.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
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by willgarr15 on Oct 20, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I go to school in the SEC. I've watched 5 of Snead's games this year.
He stinks. He has plenty of talent on that team. And he stinks.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how exactly would someone bust harder than Ryan Leaf?
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is get drunk and moon Roger Goodell at the Rookie Symposium. Also, playing for the Raiders helps.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 21, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness they have a support group for them
http://www.bigbustsupport.com/
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by Joe P. on Oct 19, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how they need help.
if i were a high draft pick that sucked in the nfl, id still be happy as a pig in sh*! at the top 5 pick money i made for 3 years of work in college!
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn’t sound at all like a high-draft pick website.
more like a high cup size website.
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by quantumuprising on Oct 20, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
annnnnnnnd it was
"X right, 25 z blast double fox. and remember guys, you don’t move until i yell hike." -Trent Edwards, improving offensive line penalties since 2009.
by quantumuprising on Oct 20, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His name is JaMarcus
~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 20, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam getting hurt might help our chances of getting him!
Maybe he’ll slip from the #1 similar to how we got McGahee. I mean lets be honest, OBD wouldn’t have ponied up #1 overall pick money anyways!
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by Sluss88 on Oct 19, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You’re assuming Buffalo won’t be picking in the top 5?
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by Ron From NM on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not if we keep pulling wins out of our ass like yesterday
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the season ended now
The best pick we would have as of now is #7, but we would be tied with a whoel bunch of teams for that spot and based on point differential, we would probably be down around 11 (again)
by Polish Lover on Oct 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not sure if winning is helping us
as wierd as it sounds. i’m sure i’m not the only on sick of 7-9 finishes. and i’m thinking we’ll be lucky to be 7-9 so by that theory, each win slides us down on draft day.
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a good enough pick for Lefever!
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, it will improve the Bills chances to get him.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we are top 10
but not top 5.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
k but he’s looking a little injury prone, we’ve already got a injury prone qb(hell outside of flutie we’ve had an injury prone qb since kelly retired) bradfords better but it doesn’t matter how much better you are if you can’t play cause your hurt
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He just needs to learn how to get sacked.
The announcers were even saying that he needs to twist his body when being sacked so that he doesn’t put all the pressure on his throwing shoulder when hitting the ground.
They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
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by Sluss88 on Oct 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's it?!
hell, give this kids rob johnsons phone # pronto, he know’s everything there is to know about getting sacked
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or losmans....
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 20, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
It’s not like Trent hasn’t had enough practice.
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by ChipShot on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Is Trent really the more talented player? He is more accurate hitting guys standing still 5 yards away I will give you that but not much more. QB’s generate points, Trent doesn’t.
by bflobob8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, yes. Trent is the more talented player.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 19, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he would ever follow that talent up with some good games we’d love him for it.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inconsistant OL’s his entire time as a pro doesn’t help. OBD hasn’t put together a decent OL in a long time, thus why our QB’s have failed.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no our Qb's have failed because they weren't good.
o-line plays a part, but there’s a reason JP isn’t in the NFL anymore. He stunk. I’m pretty certain the same thing goes for Trent.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the reason that JP isn't in the NFL anymore is
that he wasn’t going to sign on anyplace that wouldn’t give him a chance to start. There’s plenty of teams where he’d easily be the #2.
by twoeightnine on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we have proof of that?
can someone play worse than JP played at the end of last year? I could see someone signing him, but not to be their #2.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, his agent came out and said it over the summer.
by twoeightnine on Oct 19, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his agent said there was demand for him?
sorry, that doesn’t do it for me.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we have proof that Tom Brady would be a great QB with a different team….no
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, that's the same thing.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt we pretty much have an all pro line two years ago?
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by quantumuprising on Oct 20, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Concussions
Check this out. Sobering.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all
by oompaloompa on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really? Is Trent really the more talented player? He is more accurate hitting guys standing still 5 yards away I will give you that but not much more. QB’s generate points, Trent doesn’t.
by bflobob8 on Oct 19, 2009 5:08 PM ADT reply actions
i’m not following your post dude
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it was just a comment on Trent’s lousy decision making as of late.
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by UZ on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
regardless of whether or not he's "the franchise" Edwards should sit if its anything close to a concussion.
He should absolutely wait until everything’s 100% up in the noggin. Some things are more important than football, and one of them is Trent’s health. No football game is worth the lasting damage he could incur if he plays with a concussion.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure there’s QB’s playing with concussions in the league right now (that haven’t told the team doctors) that playing better then a healthy edwards. the concussions not the issue, edwards skill level isn’t where you want it to be for your franchise QB…..unless your in the cfl
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you've missed my point entirely
my point is that Trent could hurt himself permanently if he tries to play through a concussion, and him living a long healthy life is frankly more important than the bills season or anything related to football. Playing with a broken arm is one thing, risking permanent brain damage is quite another.
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by JPH on Oct 19, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no i got it and you are right. when it comes down to it no one should play if there not in condition to play. I’m just looking at it as a OBD or fans stand point that this guy isn’t our future, but once again, that’s not saying i want this guy to go out and get mamed out there.
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by J. Mackin on Oct 19, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no optimism what so ever
we are only 2-4, and 80% of you are looking who to pick in the draft next year. Wait until Trent comes back and plays a full game with the huddle before you write off this season and the QB, because the if they do turn the team around, and make the playoffs, Trent will be the starter next year. I guarentee that the same 80% of you will be all, “I love Trent” if he comes back and has a great game.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol—I assume that this is meant to be humorous. Not that I would mind eating some humble pie if the improbable happens.
Actually, things could be worse. Say McKelvin’s and Parrish’s neurons were firing correctly against the Patriots and Browns respectively, the Bills could be sitting atop the AFC East at 4-2. This is in spite of the horrific offensive output and near comical number of injuries. Perhaps many would build up hope, only to see it squashed as the season presses on.
Maybe, Ralph will give Jauron another go next year; after all, it’s not his fault the team has been bitten hard by the injury bug. For Jauron, this validates his master strategy of releasing coaches and key players just before the season and relying on other teams rejects as backups, and even full-time starters. Yes, 4-2 would be a lot worse then 2-4 in terms of justifying substantial change.
Regarding Trent…unlike his head coach, he deserves the balance of the season to fairly evaluate his performance. This is assuming that his protection improves as well. I saw nothing of Fitz that gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling that he could out duel a QB not having one of the worst days a QB can possibly have.
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by NJBill on Oct 19, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trent was in a huddle all last year
He looked like the same crappy QB as he has this year.
Plus, a huddle isn’t going to give him guts. A huddle isn’t going to help his ability to read the defense or anticipate throws. A huddle isn’t going to turn him into a good QB.
~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 20, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been trying to articulate the same point
but i’d forgotten the whole “he stunk last year” angle.
good one, k.
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by JPH on Oct 20, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the huddle gets the OL on the same page with itself, maybe Trent’s internal clock doesn’t tell him to dump it after 1.8 seconds have elapsed. Maybe he doesn’t rush his reads if that happens.
The guy has NEVER had an offensive line that held up for him other than in high school. I’m not saying he’s good right now or that he’s definitely gonna step his game up later, but give the man a chance to get his feet under him with decent protection. If we ever figure out how to do that.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 20, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills gave him decent protection last year
~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 20, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We tore apart our OL because it was working fine? No way. He got a concussion last year too. And was hurried all the time.
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