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Opponent History: Buffalo Bills at Carolina Panthers

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Buffalo Bills
(2-4) at Carolina Panthers (2-3)

Sunday, October 25, 2009,  4:15 PM ET
Bank of America Stadium - Charlotte, NC

Normally in this weekly feature, I go back and review the last five meetings between the Buffalo Bills and their current opponent for the week. The problem this week, however, is that this is the fifth ever meeting between the Bills and the Carolina Panthers, so there are only four games to review. The Bills hold a 3-1 series edge, losing the last meeting (way back in 2005) after winning the first three. The Bills have outscored Carolina 95-60 all time and will look to add to their previous success this week, in yet another four o'clock game for the Bills this year. The last five four meetings after the jump.

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September 10, 1995: Bills 31, Panthers 9
Can't kill the Panthers for this one, as this game took place in their first year of existence. After John Kasay hit his third field goal of the game in the third quarter, the Panthers had a 9-0 lead and had shut out the Bills for the first half. The Bills then came roaring back. A 77-yard Jim Kelly-to-Russell Copeland touchdown hook up was quickly followed by rushing touchdowns from Thurman Thomas and Darick Holmes. The Bills then added a fourth score in the third quarter when Kurt Schulz picked off former Bill - and MRW favorite - Frank Reich and brought it back 32 yards for a touchdown. Steve Christie capped the scoring with a fourth-quarter field goal.

October 25, 1998: Bills 30, Panthers 14
Eric Moulds
hooked up with Doug Flutie for a 20-yard TD and Steve Christie kicked a 42-yard field goal to give the Bills a 10-0 lead. William Floyd's one-yard TD plunge brought Carolina to within 3 points, but Moulds and Flutie hooked up again, this time for 82 yards. That was all the Bills would need, but they added a Thurman Thomas TD run and two more Steve Christie field goals. Phil Hansen and Shawn Price had a sack apiece, while Ray Jackson and Henry Jones picked off one Steve Beuerlein pass each.

December 9, 2001: Bills 25, Panthers 24
In a game that featured two of the more pathetic teams of 2001, Chris Weinke led the Panthers to a early 24-6 lead just before halftime. The Panthers (who finished 1-15 that year) were poised to record their second win of the season. But the Bills (who finished 3-13 that year) came from behind. Current Bills offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt hit Peerless Price for a 7-yard touchdown pass that was followed up by a Brandon Spoon 44-yard pick-six, and a Travis Henry one-yard TD plunge to give the Bills the win. In hindsight, it might have been better to lose this game. In the upcoming draft the Panthers would select Julius Peppers, while the Bills would select Mike Williams...

November 27, 2005: Panthers 13, Bills 9
There is an old saying; In a game of field goals, the team that scores a touchdown is the winner. Or something like that. John Kasay (still kicking for the Panthers) hit two 25-yard field goals, and Rian Lindell hit three field goals (31, 45, 33) to give the Bills the lead 9-6 late in the fourth quarter. But Jake Delhomme hit future Bill Micheal Gaines with a 4-yard touchdown pass to give the Panthers the win. J.P. Losman had a great day, getting sacked five times and throwing an interception.

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picked off former Bill – and MRW favorite – Frank Reich

I was at that game in 2005 when MRW favorite Frank Reich received the Ralph Wilson Distinguished Service Award. :-) My aunt and uncle live in Charlotte so when the Panthers were founded we got a bunch of Panthers stuff as presents. My brother’s favorite team for a while was/kinda is the Panthers.

Don’t forget the Panthers had Don Beebe, Reich, and a host of other Bills since Bill Polian was their first General Manager.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Ignoring the grumblings on Rumblings.

by MattRichWarren on Oct 21, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IIRC

Metzelaars played for them too, right?

by sabre74kkn on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.

by thefourwinds on Oct 21, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this game comes down to whether the Panthers do the safe, smart thing and run all over us, or if they have a brain fart and try to have Delhomme throw the ball a lot. We can influence their decision making by putting a couple quick scores on the board. (Although depending on your team’s make up and the opponent you’re facing, I never understood why teams abandon the run with such fervor when they get down, even early in a game. If I was facing the Bills and was down a few points, I would abandon the pass and rush.)

by syrbillsfan on Oct 21, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THis will be

an interesting game. 2 terrible offenses going at it. I like the fact we are playing a 4-3 opponenent. However, handling Carolina’s running game will be tough. If Buffalo can play defense like they did last week, I can see us forcing Delhomme into throws that result in INT’s, and another big day for our defense. Being likely to be without Kyle Williams, We will need 8-9 in the box to shut it down and play very disciplined gap control defense.

MARVelous - "I went from America's team to North America's Team" Terrell Owens

by MARVelous on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Buffalo plays defense like last week, Delhomme won’t have to throw any passes….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 21, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will need 8-9 in the box to shut it down

Based off last week’s performance, we’ll need 13 to shut it down.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 21, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have this image in my mind where Fewell refuses to remove the 13th guy from the field

and we just take penalty after penalty for too many men because it’s our best shot.

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think anyone needs to "force" Delhomme to throw picks.

He’s totally jumped the shark.

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RBs

Their Running Backs scare me in this game. I haven’t paid too much attention or have I watched any Panthers games yet this year. Anyone know what their Defense is like besides Peppers?

Keepin' the faith!

by nickdaniels on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The defense has been improving each week.

There are a few injury issues to the Defensive line which had been a set back early. The pickup of the DT Hollis Thomas has improved the run D dramatically. The LB corp is one of the best in the league. The MLB (J. Beason) is All-pro and the OLB (T. Davis) is having a Pro-bowl worthy season. The secondary can be a little shakey at times. The Safety, Chris Harris, was out with an injury for the first 3 games, he’s now back and that is starting to improve. The entire defense is in the process of learning a new scheme (Cover-2), so there have been quite a few mistakes.

The overall defense is ranked 2nd against the pass and 25th against the run. Those numbers are a little deceiving though, as opponents haven’t needed to pass since they’ve been able to run at 5 ypc.

The defense for the Panthers hasn’t really been the issue. It’s been the Special Teams coverage and a lot of turnovers on Offense.

by Scrantsj on Oct 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just picked J Peppers up in my FF league...

Yes, we do play two defensive players…

Panthers rush, and their rushing will be the death of the Bills on Sunday.

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 21, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at the 1998 game...

Sunday Night game … long drive from the RDU area (I had just graduated from Carolina a year before)
At least 20,000 Bills fans at that game. It was nuts. Flutie was magical as usual.

My Tasker Jersey was loved by all ;-)

We’ll have half that stadium. Hell, most of Charlotte are all WNYers anyway …

by sabre74kkn on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was there too

And I had driven in from the RDU area too after having moved there from Amherst a year prior. And now I live in Charlotte. It will be fun taking over the city for a few days, but this is going to be another ugly game, I fear.

the berker

by TheBerker on Oct 21, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J.P. Losman had a great day, getting sacked five times and throwing an interception.

Gee….I wish we still had JP /sarcasm.

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 21, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trivia (where'd that go Eric?)

Who scored the first TD in Panther history?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Trivia is on the shelf till the off-season.

My guess with out looking would be Don Beebe.

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Oct 21, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I looked it up and he was my second guess…

No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.

by sireric on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Metzelaars. My first-ever FFB points. Unfortunately, he didn’t have that great of a year.

I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.

by thefourwinds on Oct 21, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In hindsight, it might have been better to lose this game. In the upcoming draft the Panthers would select Julius Peppers, while the Bills would select Mike Williams…

Only better if you assume the Bills actually would have taken Peppers. If they had wasted an even higher pick on Williams, they would have blown away even more money and opportunity.

I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.

by thefourwinds on Oct 21, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

John Fox

What do we think of Fox? Last I checked he was a good football coach, but this team stinks. Has he lost his luster or is this a stumble?

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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