Bills' Edwards misses practice Wednesday
Buffalo Bills quarterback Trent Edwards missed practice on Wednesday as he continues to deal with the effects of the second career concussion he sustained in the Bills' Week 6 victory over the New York Jets.
Edwards, who suffered a concussion in a Week 5 loss to the Arizona Cardinals in 2008, was not even on the sidelines today as the Bills began prep work for their Week 7 tilt with the Carolina Panthers. Backup quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick took all of the first-team reps at quarterback, and considering the facts currently present, the chances that Fitzpatrick makes his first career start at quarterback for the Bills are enormous.
Also missing practice Wednesday were safety Donte Whitner, right tackle Jonathan Scott (both of whom, according to BuffaloBills.com, were also not in attendance), cornerback Terrence McGee, tight end Shawn Nelson and defensive tackle Kyle Williams.
Veteran safety Bryan Scott, who missed three straight starts with a high ankle sprain, returned to the practice field on Wednesday on a limited basis. So, too, did receiver James Hardy, who spent the first six weeks of the season on the Reserve/PUP list as he continued to rehab from 2008 knee surgery. He is not yet on the active roster, as the Bills have a full three weeks to evaluate Hardy before promoting him to the active roster. The team can make that move at any time, and obviously, if and when they do so, they'll need to release a player.
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Well then
I guess the whole QB argument is a moot point, welcome Fitzy!
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by UZ on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha – it’s a moot point this week, and possibly in future weeks. When both are healthy…
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 21, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not after Fitzy lights it up this week!
What’s the deal with Donte not in attendance???
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by Sluss88 on Oct 21, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could have been in the training room during practice or the media portion of practice.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 22, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a positive thing. We get a chance to better evaluate Fitz and Trent has an opportunity, if possible, to clear his mind. Unless he becomes the second coming of Drew Brees, Fitz should sit when Trent is healthy, but be quickly reinserted if Trent fails.
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by NJBill on Oct 21, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, so that warrants him to not be in attendance???
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by Sluss88 on Oct 21, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was definitely at the facility today, getting treatment on the ankle – he put it on Twitter. He might have just grabbed the game plan, gotten his treatment and skidaddled.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info Brian, that's at least good to know!
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by Sluss88 on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gets cut?
Brian- Who do you think gets cut if Hardy is healthy enough to be moved to the active roster. Roscoe?
by jmills3 on Oct 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably
I don’t think there’s any way Roscoe stays on this roster.
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by UZ on Oct 21, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
could be jenkins
if this was madden you’d cut the worst receiver, which’d be jenkins, but since this is the real world, they’ll take things like chemistry into account, which is why it might be parrish.
i have very little tolerance for whiners who can’t get open on offense.
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by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugly
Pretty soon, the list of who DID practice will be easier to enumerate!.
by fansince60 on Oct 21, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trent won't be back till next weeks game against the Texans, or even possibly till after the Bye week
With him not even standing on the sidelines, I am leaning towards after the Bye Week myself.
Whitner not being on the sidelines worries me alot, means his injury might be worse than we thought, hope Scott is able to go this week.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
by WABillsfan on Oct 21, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea hopefully Scott can go if Whitner cannot. Watching George Wilson play safety pains me.
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by willgarr15 on Oct 21, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont dislike wilson
but scott’s specific skills complement byrd’s better than wilson’s do. aka he can tackle.
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by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it’s the tackling I was talking about.
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by willgarr15 on Oct 21, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trent
having all these concussions, and going back to college is something that is very worrisome to say the least. I don’t think there is ANY doubt, at least in my mind, that Buffalo’s continual search for a QB to succeed Jim Kelly is now, back on RED ALERT. The guy is as tentative as can be the way it is, add in another concussion, and I think this guy’s career is virtually over, albeit for a few more starts this year possibly.
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by MARVelous on Oct 21, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It stinks, but I am in complete agreement. Basically Trent Edwards can not be counted on to be a starting quarterback in the NFL, no matter what you feel about his ability. He is forever going to be susceptable to concussions. Before anyone argues this, just look at the quarterbacks whom have had multiple concusions and have continued to be starters playing at a high level. Very few.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 21, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes
and the fact that people are even debating the fact that Ryan friggn Fitzpatrick MAY be better than Edwards, is enough for me to say “Edwards is not the guy.” I just hope to God that one day, we’ll get lucky and get a good QB. That would be so nice
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by MARVelous on Oct 21, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam is slipping on the draft board, hopefully we get him where we end up, which will probably be around #11 again!
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by Sluss88 on Oct 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, nothing like drafting a "franchise" QB coming off of season ending surgery on his throwing shoulder.
We will have a built in excuse next year for why he sucks.
by twoeightnine on Oct 21, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
It ended Steve Young’s career, so even a great quarterback, once stricken by the concussion bug, is pretty much done for.
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by Dyl on Oct 21, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all of this
but Young, might have stuck around one more year….he was Kelly’s age remember so he didn’t have much time left anyway
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by killascript on Oct 21, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s been on RED ALERT since about the Arizona game last year. :/
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by UZ on Oct 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes never been the same since that hit…
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by bflo on Oct 22, 2009 12:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
But it's not like he was much before the concussion
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by Kurupt on Oct 22, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True story, but at the very least he had yet to be given the Capn’ Checkdown name and looked a lot less scared out there…
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by UZ on Oct 22, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had his best game as a pro two weeks later.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely Agree
I would absolutely love if Edwards was the guy at QB. We’d perform better. From a team building perspective, we could concentrate on adding other pieces to the team.
My hope at the beginning of the season, and after games 2-5, was that Edwards’ situation was similar to Drew Brees, where he just was taking longer to develop. The concussion issue is now my biggest concern. Edwards might not be able to be on the field in long enough stretches to play his way into being the franchise QB.
It’s unfortunate for the team. We should be looking hard at Locker, Bradford, Clausen, and Snead.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 21, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY?
Would you be absolutley LOVE for Edwards to be the guy @ QB? How are they goimng to prform any better? Would that be because he suffered another concussion and that now makes him “THE GUY”? I don’t get what you are ‘trying’ to say here!
Edwards obviusly ISN’T the guy IMO. I had some high hopes for him “initially” when he looked so poised and mature out there, especially vs the Pats when Losman went down. That was a VERY short lived thing however.
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by Pocono Bob on Oct 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone remember Kelly's concussion?
Can’t remember who they were playing, but Kelly took a hit around midfield, i think after a scramble. The next play was a successful run by Thurman. The funny thing was that the next 5 or 6 plays were runs by Thurman, in fact the very same running play, which kept working and took the Bills down to around the 10 yard line. Then I saw Thurman leave the huddle and make the T sign to an official, and Kelly was taken out of the game. Thurman later explained that, after hearing Kelly call the same play over and over, he asked, “Jim, you all right?” and didn’t get a coherent response.
by Sixteenthback on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kelly's history with bills.
Jim Kelly is my favorite QB in Buffalo, That said I never hear about how much he disliked Buffalo when they drafted him. In fact he went to the Houston team and lit up the league till it floundered, But when he had to come here he learned to love this place with all his heart. It does not supprise me at all tat he would get hurt and not come out. he was TOUGH
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by crazyoldmen on Oct 21, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny
considering where he grew up in rural pennsylvania…not exactly “fun city”
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by killascript on Oct 21, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
Now we might have a chance to win this game
by csc06258 on Oct 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see very little reason to think Fitz makes them more able to win over Trent playing.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 21, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about the fact that the team scored a touchdown when he was under center.
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by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also threw one of the worst interceptions I have ever seen thrown… in overtime. Sure, he had come off the bench only a FEW quarters back, err wait… Yeah, this isn’t an upgrade, sorry. Trent hasn’t been our problem this year. Fitzpatrick, with 0 seconds to throw the ball is probably going to do worse than the unfairly named Capt. Checkdown. He will be Capt. Interception… :(
by clownfat on Oct 21, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
Trent hasn’t been our problem? he hasn’t been our only problem, that’s for sure, but he hasn’t been our problem?
and Captain Checkdown is an unfair nickname?
I like the idea that some have that Trent is somehow safe with the ball. He was second in the league in interceptions heading into last week. 1 INT from Fitz? That’s par for the course for trent.
I don’t want to type the trent vs. fitz debate again: the offense was better with fitz in the game then it had been at any point in the previous three weeks. that’s not saying much, but it is what it is.
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by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Trent hasn’t been our problem. Any quarter back, when given ZERO seconds to throw the ball, which is often the case, will make some big mistakes. I would say Trent actually deals with that pretty well and I suspect Fitzpatrick, based on his past performances with other clubs, will do worse.
Also… you do realize you are saying that a Fitzpatrick was better than Trent with a rating of… 51.6 in that game. That was his rating in that game. 51.6. Do you know Trent’s average for that game? Do you want to know? How about for the rest of the season? I will give you a hint… it is higher. Then go ahead and compare their seasons last year. Trent played only one more game than Fitz last year… check out their qb ratings.
Calling Trent Captain Checkdown makes it difficult to find a new name for Fitzpatrick who averaged less yards per throw last year, 5.1 vs. 7.2.
Maybe we need a new QB, I don’t know, I think we probably just need a better QB coach (and have for quite a while now) and some experience in our line, which will come eventually, but it will probably be too late for Trent, which is a shame, I guess (truth be told, I don’t really care all that much, his interviews sometimes rub me the wrong way). Those things are not his fault.
by clownfat on Oct 21, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I'm wrong
But all his seasons combined he has yet to finish a year with more TD’s then INTs. He’s not a good QB overall. Better than Fitz overall in his career? Yes.
Better than Fitz right now? Debatable.
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by UZ on Oct 21, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true...
it is debatable that a healthy Fitz is better than a concussed-Edwards…BUT, when both are healthy, the only passes that Fitz should be throwing are at the cherrleaders…
by NorCal BillsFan on Oct 21, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was Hammy's job????
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by Joe P. on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had more TDs (11) than INTs (10) last year (not great of course), assuming by he you mean Trent and not Fitzpatrick, of course it wasn’t great… but the same can not be said for Fitzpatrick unless you count the year he only played one game where he had neither.
by clownfat on Oct 21, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even when trent has time to throw he checks down or doesn’t make a play, the guy is the worst Q.B in the league. Jamarcus Russell is better. Trent never throws to his receivers. Fitz threw the ball the Evans and Owens a total of 19 times and he missed the first Quarter!!!! Trent usually throws the ball to Owens and Evans a total of 5 times a game or so. At least this guy gives the receivers a chance. If fitz wins this week, you won’t see Edwards on the field until he loses
by csc06258 on Oct 21, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards has been getting crushed behind that OL. Almost any QB would look terrible. Edwards looked good versus NE and TB when he had time to throw. And, he didn’t look half bad his first 5 throws.
QB play is partially a function of OL play… same as the running game. Rarely does a team have a bad OL and a great QB. If so, it’s the exception.
Fitzpatrick was getting blitzed most of the time- he just had a better sense of it and escaped. That doesn’t make him a better QB- see what the Jets’ blitzes did to Brady, who isn’t as mobile as Fitzpatrick.
Once the OL is better, just Edwards’ play. I wouldn’t argue if you started counting him out due to concussions.
BTW, Fitzpatrick played 4 quarters. : )
by Der Jaeger on Oct 21, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manning is the only QB that I know of who can play behind a line likes ours and make it work
Literally, that was the only guy I could think of off the top of my head. Brady is close, but still somewhat gun shy right now with that knee injury he is still recovering from. But no one else in the pros right now I think could do it other Peyton
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by WABillsfan on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers threw for like 400 yards in that monday nighter against minnesota., and he couldn’t even complete a 3 step drop.
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Manning has done that consitently over a whole season
Rogers did it for one game against a good D
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Fewell, common sense says to play UP on the line against the slant.
by WABillsfan on Oct 22, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They both make our QBs look like a big steamy pile of dog crap
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by Joe P. on Oct 22, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rothlesberger excels with a complete lack of blocking. He isn’t human though.
by nolander on Oct 22, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even when he HAD time to throw those first couple games he was checking down like nobodies business.
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by UZ on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Trent only put up three points against Cleveland hahahahaha that is a joke. Anyone on this blog playing QB could have put up more points than that. I think Trent is a joke and def not a starting QB in this league. He will make a good backup and again he is def bottom five in this league, in my opinion, the worst starting QB but def bottom five
by csc06258 on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I doubt I would have been able to put up any points
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by NolaBillsFan on Oct 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards was sacked twice, pressured 8 times. 9 of our 13 penalties were on offense, many times negating plays, negating 3rd and shorts, and just turning managable down and distance into passing downs. That made our offense more predictable, and Cleveland, knowing we had to pass, took advantage.
I’m not saying I think Edwards played well, or has played well after the TB game. But until our line solidifies, I don’t think anyone can truly pass judgment on his play.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 21, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He took what the defense gave him.
And we were almost 2-0 in those first two games, checking down like nobody’s business.
It’s the OL, not the QB.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 21, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even when trent has time to throw he checks down or doesn’t make a play, the guy is the worst Q.B in the league. Jamarcus Russell is better.
Let’s not go crazy now.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 22, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had a classic quotes section, this exchange would most certainly be there.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offense was not any better with Fitz
It might have been worse, actually.
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by Kurupt on Oct 22, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it put up 13 points, didn't it?
when was the last time our O scored 13 with Trent? week 2?
And this isn’t about Fitz being good. He’s not. But the bills looked more like a football team (albeit not a good team) than the crapsack they looked like with Trent under center.
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s easy to look like a better football team when the other team throws six INTs and your OL finally stops commiting 10 penalties per game. Fitz also had the luxury of four drives starting outside the Buffalo 40 yard line, two of which started in Jets territory. In those three awful games from Trent and the OL, Buffalo had 5 drives start outside their forty and only one start in the opponents territory.
And here’s the yards per drive from Fitz vs: Edwards in Edwards’ bad games:
Trent (Mia) – 20.3
Trent (NO) – 20.2
Fitz (NYJ) – 19.75
Trent (Cle) – 19.5
The differences between the offense with Trent vs. Fitz is that the team stopped shooting themselves in the foot. Fitz and Evans took advantage of the Jets tendency to overload blitz on 3rd down with the help of a great playcall, but other than that the O was pretty much the exact same bad offense that we’ve been seeing out of Trent.
And I’ll stand by earlier claims that considering how much better the OL played and how bad the Jets were with the INTs and penalties, if Edwards doesn’t get hurt, the Bills win by multiple scores in regulation. Honestly, if Edwards hadn’t been hurt and finished the game with 116 yards passing on 10/25 and the Bills barely won in OT after the other team threw 6 picks, wouldn’t people be all over Edwards for having another bad game? Wouldn’t people be saying that Buffalo won despite of Edwards?
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by kaisertown on Oct 22, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
If Trent had taken the shots down the field that Fitz took, people would be happy….well not everyone….but the majority of fans would be. Nobody questions that Trent should be a better QB than Fitz, but Trent plays the game like he is afraid. Nobody likes a coward.
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by Joe P. on Oct 22, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the distinction im trying to make
Fitz does not throw the ball well. If he did, the Bills would’ve won the game bigtime because he was throwing the ball downfield to wide open targets. That’s not a “strength” of fitz’s, that’s something everyone does besides Trent.
In summary, they both stink, but I thought the offense looked better under Fitz because the thing holding them back was that Fitz isn’t good. The offense under post-week2 trent was being held back by the fact that Trent wouldn’t even let them get started. AND penalties, no doubt about that.
The O with Fitz looked like an NFL team that had a bad quarterback. The O with Trent the past 3 weeks looked like they were scared of being on the field. Trent especially.
I prefer watching the former.
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good on all accounts
1. I don’t want Trent rushed back. Most important- Head injuries are nothing to joke about, as we’ve talked about. Until he’s cleared, I don’t want him anywhere near a field. Scary stuff. Less important- a QB who isn’t thinking clearly (I’d argue that’s been the case all year, but, in this case, medically speaking) would not help this team on the field.
2. This gives us a new lens through which to evaluate our offensive players: Are people not open or is Trent not willing to throw? I have my suspicions (just like many of us), but we’ll get a better idea by watching a full game with a well-prepared Fitzy.
3. No debate: When Trent’s ready to go, he comes back in. I’m pretty sure that by the end of next week, we’ll know that Fitzy stinks almost as much as Trent, and it’ll be easier on Dick to put Trent back in.
4. I have Evans in fantasy. I think we can agree that it wasn’t so much that JP had a connection with Lee as Trent has some sort of blood-feud/vendetta against him, since it appears that everyone besides Trent has a connection with him.
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by JPH on Oct 21, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So we're now at the point where completing two passes to Lee Evans is a special connection with him?
Fitz threw to Evans 9 times Sunday and had as many caught by the Jets as he did Lee.
by twoeightnine on Oct 21, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee looked like the best player on the field with Fitz throwing him the ball, when was the last time that happened with Trent throwing him the ball.
and i was half kidding.
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not hard to look like the best player on the field
by twoeightnine on Oct 22, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two plays.
the deep ball wasn’t a catch, but it was still an outstanding play.
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he didn't make the catch
so that point is moot. Some will say he should have caught it cleanly instead of bobbling it, too….
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by Kurupt on Oct 22, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome back Hardy?
I have not I must admit been a hardy fan. This young man has only played in 9 games since he has been drafted and if held out for three more, will cost more than TO has . I hope for the fans sake that he is as good as they think he can be. Also it seems that the high cost Maybin experiment is going very slowly also. What is it with the Buffalo draft picks, they are either under used or over rated?
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by crazyoldmen on Oct 21, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give Hardy a chance...
People said that Houston should have drafted R. Bush or VY instead of Mario Williams…M. Williams took some time to develop, but no one argues now that they got the best player…
by NorCal BillsFan on Oct 21, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We wait until the third round or after the draft to make our good picks that will make lasting impressions on the team (Edwards, K. Williams, Peters, F. Jackson, McGee).
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by Dyl on Oct 21, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re looking at a DE and a WR who both were very physically gifted at the college level, but raw. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few rookie WRs that have had good years, but rookie DE’s, the list is a bit shorter.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Oct 21, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either I have the psychic ability to see into the future
or Ron’s O-line post disappeared. WTF??
Ron – I hope we have finally found a good use for McIntyre, and the max protection makes sense give our patchwork O-line. Care to throw some gas on the QB fire? Granted the sample size is small, but has Fitz killed more/less/same percentage of drive as Edwards?
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by Joe P. on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
I NEED Ron’s oline post. Sad to say, but that is the highlight of my week.
by CBATL32 on Oct 21, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's being
edited I think by Brian….so just hold on guys:)
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by MARVelous on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
normally you get some elevator music when you are on hold :-)
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by Joe P. on Oct 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that would explain it. I actually thought I scheduled it to post on Thursday evening but I must have messed that up because it appeared briefly today.
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by Ron From NM on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need to get some links from Joe so you have better weekly highlights.
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by Ron From NM on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't a bad thing
Fitzpatrick looked sharp last year for the Bengals subbing in for palmer. there’s a reason T.J. had over 100 catches and 85 had 50 grabs. maybe, just maybe he can spark up the offense and get balls to the WR, and use the check downs as…oh i don’t know…CHECKDOWNS!!! NOT PRIMARY TARGETS!! this could open up the offense for us. hey, hey’s got just as many wins as edwards this season, why not try him out
Starting a movement to draft Jimmy Clausen in april, he'll be the 2nd coming of Kelly, the saviour of the Bills
by J. Mackin on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts
On QB: People are exagerrating how bad Edwards is. He is not the worst QB in the league. To say that is simply ignorant. Watch Raider football before you say something that ridiculous. Or maybe you want to watch Derek Anderson, or trade for Brady Quinn who is so bad that the Browns can’t even bench Derek Anderson. Maybe you want Mark Sanchez to throw a billion interceptions? If you want to make an arguement then make it, don’t exagerrate, it dilutes the discussion.
On the same note, people are overexagerrating how good Ryan Fitzpatrick is. He is not good. His arm is incredibly weak and he consistently under threw wide open receivers. That being said, I think rotoworld said it perfectly as to why I am in favor of keeping him in: “noodle-arm of Harvard has one thing going for him: he’s smart enough to know that Lee Evans is the Bills’ best offensive player. Even if he can’t throw deep, Fitzpatrick found a way to get the ball into his best playmaker’s hands in the 16-13 shocker over the Jets.” I totally agree. Hes not good, but a basic thought for a QB is to get the ball to your best playmaker. Trent doesn’t do that. Until he decides to get the ball or try to get the ball to Lee and TO, Fitz is the better man for the job. If you have a more talented, charismatic and intelligent lawyer who refuses to meet with his prized client and you have a less intelligent and unlikeable lawyer who makes sure to wine and dine the prized client you go with the latter. Same principle.
On Hardy: Good, glad to have him back. He is a good red zone target and we need him in a bad way. We are terrible in the red zone. Unfortunatey I think a lot of it is that Trent is afraid to throw it up for Terrell Owens, a touchdown machine. I’m starting to get the feeling tha unless a receiver is completely open Trent doesn’t throw it. In the red zone you throw it up for guys like TO and Hardy. In Trents defense, our red zone offense has been horrendous the entire Jauron era. It may have to do with coaching close to the goal line.
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 4:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is a good red zone target and we need him in a bad way. We are terrible in the red zone.
We are more terrible at getting to the red zone. You can’t score points in the red zone if you can’t even get there!
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by Kurupt on Oct 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone's high and mighty on Fitz
but tell me, how often was Owens involved in the game during the 2nd half and OT?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how invovled was he with Edwards?
Fitz got Evans involved. That is a huge step in the right direction
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just remember during training camp when he couldn’t hit the side of a barn and everyone who saw his play was trying to push him out of town.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
and I’m not saying Fitz is any good. But we are in a bad place. Our starter hasn’t throw the ball to our best weapons and a backup comes in who is less talented but gets Lee the ball. Get lee rolling sit Trent for another week, two if he needs it, and let the receivers work into an offensive groove.
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you weren’t saying Fitz was any good. It’s so disappointing that many people seem to feel Fitz is going to fix what ails the offense.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh there is way too much that ails us
the way im seeing it is this. If you have advil and tylenol, and your taking tylenol and not getting better, might as well try the advil. You probably won’t get better but you might feel a bit better right?
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also got the Jets DBs involved.
He hit them the same number of times as Lee when targeting Lee.
by twoeightnine on Oct 22, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are really going to talk about interceptions?
Because if we are I seem to recall that Trent Edwards loves to throw them.
Look I’m a big Trent Edwards fan. But what he was doing wasn’t working. I’ll I’m saying is, if Fitz helps get the receivers going then let him play a bit longer while Trent fully recovers. Receivers need to get going and Fitz got Evans the ball.
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love me some Cutler- or Favre-type play where an INT makes them more hungry to hit the big play next series.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wont disagree with that!
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like what Fitz was doing was working either
Put some better coverage on Evans on that one TD and what do we have? A performance from Fitz that was worse than any Edwards performance and along the lines of JaMarcus Russell and Derek Anderson.
Just because Trent had struggled lately doesn’t mean what Fitz has done was “working”. You guys are taking ONE play and using it as a basis for why Fitzpatrick did a “good” job.
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by Kurupt on Oct 22, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not saying it was working
just saying what Trent was doing wasnt working.
Whats the point in rushing him back? Lee got three catches from Fitz in 2 1/2 quarters. I think his most in a full game from Trent was 2
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitz almost played a full four quarters. His first drive was two minutes into the 2nd quarter and they played the majority of the 15 minutes of overtime. Fitz had 13 drives and 25 pass attempts which is just a hair below what Trent’s been averaging per game.
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by kaisertown on Oct 22, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point baout overtime
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by poz on Oct 23, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and also im not sure what your talking about
Lee had 4 catches (3 from Fitz if I remember plus a really questionable overturned deep ball) and Fitz threw one pick. How exactly does that work out?
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by poz on Oct 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evans had two catches on the opening drive. So it was two from Edwards, two from Fitz plus the overturned deep ball. Still more than Fitz’s one INT though.
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by kaisertown on Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
and the bad overturn at the end. Not too shabby.
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by poz on Oct 23, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the right call!!
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by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming back to a question I had earlier this summer:
Is Brian Griese so bad/old that he couldn’t help this team?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what’s the point? Play Trent when he’s healthy – get him good reps – make him our career backup and go from there.
No one short of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Drew Brees is going to help this team right now – it’s pretty much that simple.
so let our backup QB of the future get good game experience and draft one next year.
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Trent Edwards - Backup QB until furthur notice. Care to prove me wrong Trent?
by J2 on Oct 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Obi-WanBrian Griese… Now, that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.”
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by JPH on Oct 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played last year. He was terrible, averaging 5.8 yards per pass attempt. But since wins and losses seems to be the hot QB stat these days, people seem to think he’s not terrible because he went 3-2 filling in for Jeff Garcia. There is no way he could win games here though. He had back to back victories last year in which he threw 3 INTs in both games. That wouldn’t work with this mediocre team.
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by kaisertown on Oct 22, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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