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Bills Fantasy Friday: Week 7 Start 'Em/Sit 'Em

Welcome back once again to Fantasy Friday here at Buffalo Rumblings.  This week's opponent is the Carolina Panthers and their formidable running game.  The Bills are coming off a hard fought, mistake filled overtime victory over the even more mistake prone New York Jets.  It was an ugly game no matter how you slice it, unless penalties, turnovers, injuries, punts, missed field goals and poor quarterback plays suits your fancy.  This week's game looks like it could have many of the same factors as the Bills head down to Charlotte to face the 2-3 Panthers and their mistake-lovin' quarterback.

We're in the heart of the fantasy season where each week could make or break a team's playoff hopes.  If your team has struggled so far this season, there's a good chance you need to win this week to stay in contention.  There will be some individual fantasy players of note in this week's game, so head on in after the jump to take a look at my recommendations for Bills vs Panthers:

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Quarterbacks
Ryan Fitzpatrick
- Ick, I feel dirty even writing about him in this space, but such is life.  Fitzpatrick played a very uneven game in relief of the concussed Trent Edwards last week, finishing an abysmal 10 of 25 for 116 yards, one touchdown and one poorly thrown interception in overtime.  The touchdown was a good throw to Lee Evans and tied up the game late in the third quarter.  Other than that throw, Fitzpatrick left a lot of plays on the field and would have had a JaMarcus Russell type final line.  Imagine if that TD had been a 37 yard touchdown rush instead?  Fitzpatrick would have put up a painful looking 79 yards and 3.3 yards per attempts.  As it was, he finished with a very bad 4.6 ypa.  With a full week of practice and snaps with the first team offense, he should be a little more comfortable this week, but don't expect a huge uptick in production.  The Panthers have done a good job defending the pass so far this season, allowing just 156.8 yards per game, good for 2nd in the NFL.  There is a glimmer of hope as they're allowing a quarterback rating of 92.8.  I don't think Fitzpatrick will be nearly as bad as he was last week, but I also don't think he'll be all that good either.  I'm sure the team will be happy if he has an average performance. I know I will be.  Just don't consider him a fantasy option. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Jake Delhomme - Delhomme is still reeling from his six turnover fiasco in last season's divisional playoffs against the Cardinals.  It's carried over to this season as Delhomme has again struggled with turnovers (10 INT's, 2 fumbles lost) and inconsistent play.  He's thrown just four touchdowns, is averaging less than 170 yards per game and 6.4 yards per attempt, and has been sacked 11 times.  If Carolina had a good backup option (and less money invested in old Jake), he'd probably be on the bench right now.  The Bills pass defense has really clamped down of late.  They're down to 170.7 yards per game allowed after a rough start, have been on the receiving end of 10 interceptions (3rd in the NFL), and are allowing a QB rating of just 58.5 (2nd in the NFL).  The 5.5 yards per attempt they've allowed is tops in the NFL.  Don't expect Carolina to rely on Delhomme much this week.  The reasons are pretty outlined above.  Verdict: Sit'Em

Running Backs
Marshawn Lynch
- This is going to be a game that is won or lost on the ground.  Going into this game, the Panthers are allowing 149.2 rushing yards per game (4th worst in the NFL), and a whopping 5.0 yards per carry (2nd worst).  Expect the Bills to take the ball out of Fitzpatrick's hands and really rely on their running game.  Lynch will have plenty of opportunities and should be in good position to have a productive game.  If the Bills can finally get inside the 10 yard line again, he may even get to visit the end zone for the first time this season.  Look for him to get another 15-20 touches and approach 100 total yards.  Because of the timeshare situation, it's hard to recommend Lynch as a RB2, but this week looks like a good week for that, especially with six teams on bye.  I'll go ahead and say he's worth a start in all format unless you have two obvious options ahead of him. Verdict: Start 'Em

Fred Jackson - Jackson contines to see a bulk of the carries (28 to Lynch's 36 the past two weeks) and remains a valuable flex option.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the screen pass brought back this week to help Fitzpatrick out and get the most out of our running backs.  With Jackson likely to handle all kick and punt returns, as well, he looks like he'll be a very good flex play this week.  When all is said and done, he should see about 20 touches.  I like his potential for this week. Verdict: Start 'Em as a flex

DeAngelo Williams - The Bills are dead last in the NFL, allowing a cringe inducing 181.8 rushing yards per game and 5.3 yards per carry.  Williams is coming off a game in which he ran for 152 yards and two touchdowns against the Buccaneers.  The Bills are coming off a game in which they allowed over 300 yards on the ground.  For fantasy purposes, this is a match-up made in heaven.  Unfortunately, the real life aspect of it is painful to imagine.  Williams is probably the number one RB option this week, so unless you are crazy, you need to roll with him even if it is against our beloved Bills. Verdict: Start 'Em

Jonathan Stewart - Stewart is also coming off a very good game, running for 110 yards and a touchdown against Tampa Bay.  Expect him to have similar success against the Bills' sieve of a defense.  The yardage total might not be as high, but he has another great shot at reaching paydirt.  He'll probably get another 12-15 carries for in the neighborhood of 80-90 yards.  It's hard to suggest starting him as a RB2 since he is the Panthers' #2 after all, but he's a great flex play this week. Verdict: Start 'Em as a flex

Wide Receivers
Lee Evans
- Evans was the only beneficiary of Fitzpatrick's last week, catching a 37-yard touchdown.  However, he had just two total catches after Edwards went down, so it's not like his success jumped up as a result.  I expect another downer of a game from him, though he'll probably finish as the Bills top receiver again this week.  With Fitzpatrick at QB, it's hard to recommend anybody in the Bills' passing game. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Terrell Owens - Owens continues to be a non-factor for the Bills.  He was targeted 8 times against the Jets, but finished with a paltry 3 receptions for 13 yards.  With his proclivity for dropping passes in full effect, Owens should remain planted on your bench until he proves he is capable of doing something in this offense. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Steve Smith - Smith's production and fantasy performance has really dipped this season, mostly due to the issues Jake Delhomme is having.  He's still one of the better receivers in the NFL, but the Panthers just can't get him the ball.  As frustrated as Evans and Owens probably are, Smith might be even more frustrated playing for the same offense and with the same quarterback in which he's had major success before.  He's always a threat to turn a shorter gainer into a huge play, but this week's match-up really doesn't favor him.  Expect the Panthers to keep the ball on the ground, thus, Smith should remain on your bench if possible. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Muhsin Muhammed - Muhammed actually leads the Panthers in receptions with 22, but has produced just 205 yards and no touchdowns.  Don't bother. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Tight Ends
Derek Fine
- Fine has just 2 receptions for 13 yards since his five reception performance against New Orleans in week 3.  Move along. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Shawn Nelson - Nelson flashed his potential last week making a gorgeous adjustment on a perfectly executed underthrow from Fitzpatrick.  He's starting to get Bills' fans hope up (again), but he is also facing the prospects of missing this week due to injury (again).  He joined Trent Edwards in the concussion club against the Jets and is questionable for this week.  As always, don't bother considering him as an option, but keep an eye on him for the future. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Jeff King/Dante Rosario - They've combined for the only four touchdowns the Panthers have scored through the air this season.  They've also combined for just 17 receptions.  If it was King Rosario, which would be a sweet name by the way, instead of King/Rosario, this might be a good option.  Instead, they should remain right where they are: on your league's waiver wire. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Kickers
Rian Lindell
- Lindell had 3 field goals against the Jets last week, including the game winner.  I think the Bills will be able to move the ball on the ground this week, while struggling to move it through the air, which leads me to believe we'll see a bunch of field goal attempts again.  I'll go ahead and get crazy....Verdict: Start 'Em

John Kasay - I'm sure this is a well-known fact, but did you know that John Kasay has been in the NFL since 1991 and is the only remaining "original Panther"?  He's been a steady presence on the Panthers and in fantasy football for a long time now.  The Panthers haven't given him too many opportunities thus far this season, but expect that to change this week.  Expect Carolina to move it on the ground all afternoon, but struggle through the air (just like the Bills!).  Kasay makes for a good option this week, as well. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Defense/Special Teams
Bills D/ST
- Coming off an excellent six interception, two sack performance, the Bills D/ST look to continue their fantasy "success".  It's tough to imagine a similar result, however.  They are going to struggle to shut down the Panthers' running game, and it's unlikely Delhomme will be given much leeway.  I expect them to play well against the pass again, but I don't believe they'll have much fantasy production this week. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Panthers D/ST - They must be licking their chops going against Ryan Fitzpatrick this week.  If they can force Fitzpatrick to make plays, the Panthers defense may be in line for a solid fantasy day.  They had four sacks and forced two turnovers last week.  They could see a similar result this week.  This unit hasn't been very productive for the season, however, so I would keep them on the waiver wire. Verdict: Sit 'Em

Sleepers
Since both teams are likely to go with a run-heavy gameplan, it's hard to envision any true sleepers this week.  Because of that, I would say both D/ST's have a good chance to surprise us all.  If either defense can force the opposing offense into 2nd and 3rd and longs, the likelihood of quarterback mistakes skyrockets.  I wouldn't be surprised by a pick six by either unit this week, so prepare yourselves!

*****

Expect this to be a somewhat lower scoring battle of running games.  If you have a running back from either team, you should feel pretty good about their chances for success this week.  If you plan to start anyone else from this game, have fun with that!  As always, good luck and enjoy the games!

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I really like Lynch in this matchup. Jackson is interesting this week with a poor Carolina coverage units.

I am trying to decide on if I should start Kurt Warner or Eil Manning on one team, and Warner or Romo on another.

Keepin' the faith!

by nickdaniels on Oct 23, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Warner for both teams

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, giants secondary didn’t look very good against brees and co last week.

"X right, 25 z blast double fox. and remember guys, you don’t move until i yell hike." -Trent Edwards, improving offensive line penalties since 2009.

by quantumuprising on Oct 23, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check the weather

Do not trust Warner in the train.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or in the rain. Or on a crane. No, I do not trust Sam I…err….Kurt Warner.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

derp

Don’t trust him on a train either

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HA! Rec x 1000!

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

well Evans was also robbed of a beautiful deep catch

They overturned the call on the field with questionable video evidence. For shame…

I started Evans last week against reason because he seems to do well against the Jets. Now I’m starting him because he and Fitz at least seem to have a connection. Plus hes going aginst Marshall. Not exactly a great corner. Plus, the Panthers trust their secondary and know that Fitz stinks. That means 8-9 stacked boxes, which in turn means Evans should get open.

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The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

He bobbled it while his feet came up off the ground

it was the right call! He didn’t get robbed.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have to wonder though – before all this video reviewing – how many catches guys like Rice, Brown, Irvin, Reed etc… catches would have been called back in todays game

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by J2 on Oct 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

obviously they had instant replay – but I think there are more cameras and definately better quality footage – what do you think?

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by J2 on Oct 23, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean? replay review in its current state wasn’t instituted until 1999.

"X right, 25 z blast double fox. and remember guys, you don’t move until i yell hike." -Trent Edwards, improving offensive line penalties since 2009.

by quantumuprising on Oct 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he said

instant replay not replay review. Theyve had instant replays for a while.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but the comment is about guys like rice and reed that would have gotten catches called back becuase of instant replay. that entails the review portion.

"X right, 25 z blast double fox. and remember guys, you don’t move until i yell hike." -Trent Edwards, improving offensive line penalties since 2009.

by quantumuprising on Oct 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the same time

How many were called catches that shouldn’t have been?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that’s what I was asking – I bet a lot more.

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by J2 on Oct 23, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rules have also changed. In the past you only had to have two feet down inbounds and possession of the ball when you hit the ground. Even if you bobbled it, most of the time it was a catch.

by syrbillsfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with Sluss's description of the pay below

it wasn’t bobbled he was securing the football. There is a differnece and if they are going to overturn catches like that I fear they are turning catch challenges from does the receiver get two feet down, is he bobbling the ball, does the ball hit the ground, to scrutinizing the slightest movements of the ball which is just getting ridiculous. A catch is a catch, he wasn’t bobbling, he was securing it.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It did seem that the fraction of movement the ball underwent happened as he was bringing the ball into his body. Bobble or securing? You be the judge.

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

the problem for me

was that it was ruled a catch. This means it had to be 100% clear it was a bobble. It wasn’t right to overturn it. The refs were caving in to New York Jet pressure all night on calls.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right.

The onus was on the Jets to show it wasn’t securing. Still, the ref just made a judgment call, and that will always happen I suppose. Good thing we pulled it out or this would have been another in a long list of Bills gyps.

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

but

When he secured it he only had one foot down. He didn’t have control, whether he was bobbling or securing it, with both feet in bounds. That was the problem.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think we’ll ever get people on board with this. He didn’t make the catch, but he should have.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was ruled a catch on the field. it wasnt enough to overturn it

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Evans has chemistry with Fitz and that WAS a catch

He didn’t bobble it, he just secured it.

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on the catch that should have been.

Keepin' the faith!

by nickdaniels on Oct 23, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

What 2 RB's should I roll with Sunday???

I have the following in an 8 team league:
R Brown vs NO
Forte vs CIN
Slaton vs SF
Benson vs CHI

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

i like

Lovie Smith and the Bears to let Benson get his revenge against the Bears.

If you are in PPR you have to start Slaton in that offense

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh how I loathe 8 team leagues. Yes on Benson. But unless its PPR, I’m starting Ronnie Brown.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s a better problem than 12-team leagues. When Dennis Northcutt is in your starting lineup because of injuries and byes, you know you’re screwed. Somehow I still won.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh i love 12 team leagues

it forces trades rather than continual adding and dropping of players. Dennis Northcutt?? hey could be worse, you could be starting Lee Evans. Or Eddie Royal like I did. 0 catches but gave me 12 points on a punt and kick return touchdown. So lucky.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, 10-team is obviously the most ideal situation, but I prefer 12-team to 8-team. With an 8-team league, any old schmuck can end up with a roster full of superstars. In a 12-team league, you actually have to have grasp of some lesser-known players.

And yeah, I have a starting lineup that consists of Shaun Hill, Donald Brown, Justin Fargas, and Andre Caldwell in one of my leagues. But it’s a big bye week for my team…and it’s only one week.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's a PPR.

I’m skeptical of R Brown vs. the NO D. I’m leaning Benson, and definitely Slaton. Anyone think I should even consider Forte?

BTW, I’m in a 12 team league too, I hear both arguments, 10 teams is perfect.

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forte seems like your weakest play. That’s incredible that you have those four running backs available!!

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, I made RB's a priority in draft though since I historically have gone WR crazy

We have a deep bench, so I have all the above plus Mendenhall and D Brown.

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make some trades!

Your WR’s can’t be that good, right?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

At this point

In my 16 team league the best WR option I have available because of Byes and injuries is our own Josh Reed.

PITY ME

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by UZ on Oct 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

You never know about Reed, he could have nothing or he could have 6 catches for 60 yards. Still, it’s not comforting to have THAT as a first WR option!

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reed will have nothing since his BFF Trent will be laid up during the game

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out some deep options

Jerheme Urban if Boldin sits out
Keenan Burton
Dominik Hixon
Sam Aiken!
Jacoby Jones
Sam Hurd
Jordy Nelson
Sammie Stroughter

Look for return guys if you get points for those yards. I’d take any of the above over Reed.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sam AIken went nuts!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown and Slaton IMO

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting thing happening this morning in my league

I offered a trade of Chad Ochocinco for Michael Turner from “Team X”. It was accepted and it went to the commissioner, who temporarily vetoed the trade. We’re now talking about it in the discussion area of the league.

Objectively, I have to say sure, it stands to favor me. Ocho’s the 7th WR, he’s averaging 10.2 with 61 on the season. He’s been a rock, reliably productive through the season. Turner’s the 8th RB, averaging 14.0 with 70 on the season. He’s already had his bye week, and his back injury seems like a non-issue.

Team X’s RBs: Marion Barber, Willis McGahee, Julius Jones
Team X’s WR: Randy Moss, Bobby Wade, Robert Meachem, Antonio Bryant, Eddie Royal. (UGH)

Subjectively, their stats aren’t alarmingly different. Team X has two other RBs that average more than 10 points a game, along with no WR on the same planet earshot of Randy Moss. So as a business move it actually makes good sense. It won’t cripple him to trade Turner, and the receiving points will certainly help.

Is this really something that deserves a veto?

P. S. The commish who thinks it’s one-sided earlier offered me Tim Hightower for Ocho!

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I think, ultimately, people get mad at “dumb” trades, and they’re quick to use the veto card. All that should matter is that, statistically, it’s a fair trade. Do I think it’s dumb for someone to trade a RB like Turner for a WR like Ocho? Yes, but that, in of itself, isn’t a reason to veto a trade. If people have such a problem with the trade, don’t invite guys into your league that apparently don’t know what they’re doing.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills

by Sluss88 on Oct 23, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but ehh….it was the only 10 friends we could find. :( Next year I’ll be thinking about it a little more.

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the commissioner is abusing his power

I have been commissioner of a league with my buddies for a few years now and the one rule I rely on is never veto a trade unless collusion or some other motivation is involved or if its OBVIOUSLY a stupid, one sided trade.

Your situation is a good running back for a good receiver. It is not up to the commish to decide if it is one sided. The whole point of trading is to try and get a better deal than the other guy. The deal is up to the two players.

This sounds to me like a first time commish who is excited he gets to do something with the title. A good commissioner collects the money, gets the draftees together at the same time, buys the keg, sets the rules and then trys to be invisible during the season.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I am 5-1, Commish is 4-2

And Team X, the guy I’m dealing Ocho to plays the commish this week. X has a crappy team.

All that wrinkles my nose, but that being said, commish is my friend, I don’t think he’s doing this maliciously. Still, I find it odd that could propose Hightower for Ocho (which I rejected), and three weeks later find Turner for Ocho (a closer stat match) to be one-sided.

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely talk to him then if hes your buddy

You can also make the case that Turner hasnt lived up to his pre draft billing, maybe someones trying unload and stock up at WR seeing as how its a PPR league. I just dont think its up to the commish to tell managers how to manage their roster. (nice trade by the way, Turner is going to get better and better, you are buying him at a great time.

The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker

by poz on Oct 23, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, agree with all that.

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Yeah. I’m going to work on it. Not a PPR league, I wish it was because I have Slaton and he’s turning out to have almost no rushing ability.

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by Dyl on Oct 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting Buf defense

I had no choice. I’m hoping for sacks and interceptions. I never stockpile defenses so I have to pick the best available each week. It did work for me a few weeks ago when I pick San Francisco when they gave me 42 points. I’ve watched the Panthers this year, in fact I’ve played Delhomme in a desperation move and I’m hoping we can tame these cats.

I have Jonathan Stewart as flex, so you see the problem here. I need Stewart to do well but for Carolina not to score. Awful situation to be in.

I have Forte and Gore starting for the first time together in weeks along with Aaron Rodgers so I’m happy. However, my two starting WRs are Sidney Rice and Miles Austin—who knows what to make of them.

by Ono on Oct 23, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh no, you have a choice (hey, that’s funny…ur name is Ono…then I said Oh no…nevermind). Unless you’re playing in a 32 team league fantasy league…you have a choice. Don’t start the defense that’s facing a Patriots team that scored 59 points last week…in the snow!

Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.

by thatguy34 on Oct 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo's defense is not a bad choice this week

According to NFL.com the Panthers are the worst team against opposing defenses http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/pointsagainst?positionId=16
Favre is getting comfortable with Sidney and Austin is now starting for the equally puzzling Cowboys offense.

"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"

by willgarr15 on Oct 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

fantasy question?

I have Maroney, Lynch, and Mendenhall as running backs (Kevin Smith is on a bye).
Which two do i start?

by Dime on Oct 23, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mendenhall as your number one option. After that it’s a little hazy. Maroney might do better, but he might not get many carries at all, or they might be given to Sammy Morris. Lynch is going to get his touches, against a Carolina defense that’s lost a lot of its run stopping ability from years of yore. I’d consider him the more solid play.

Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged

by Dyl on Oct 24, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morris is injured

~K
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by Kurupt on Oct 24, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he is, it’s just that the Pats run that backfield by committee. Faulk’ll be in there on third down, and Green-Ellis or whoever’s back there will probably get it just as much as Maroney.

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by Dyl on Oct 24, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Maroney was pretty much the guy last week....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 24, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly..based on match ups

im considering starting maroney and lynch and sitting mendenhall

by Dime on Oct 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s likely not a bad play. Big Ben is throwing a lot more than he did in previous years, these aren’t Bill Cowher’s Steelers.

Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged

by Dyl on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might be a little late to ask this

Ive got 4 decent rbs to start this week, which 2 should i start?

Tomlinson vs KC
Westbrook vs WAS
Thomas Jones vs OAK
Maroney vs TB

thanks for the help in advance

by dragonwag0n on Oct 24, 2009 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd go Jones

and I guess Tomlinson. I think Maroney actually has the best chance for a big game going against a terrible TB D, but who knows how NE will handle him and the run game this week.

Those are 4 good matchups though. I’m not sure you can go wrong with any of them.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 24, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

who to start

I have the commish checking on me getting mario manningham if approved should I start him at home vs cards or devery henderson at miami. right now I have henderson and johnson. I am hoping that brees looks to henderson more than colston in miami. my opponet for the week has colston.

by bills21 on Oct 24, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely Manningham over Henderson....

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Picked up Ricky Williams, Kurupt, and started him over Brandon Jacobs this week. Jacobs has been underperforming so much.

Ditto Steve Smith. Sat him this week instead of waiver wire pick up Hakeem Nicks. I hope the Cardinals 31st ranked pass defense let’s Eli throw all day. Another reason to bench Jacobs.

Today would be a good day for the Eagles defense to get pissed about losing to the Raiders and go after Jason Campbell.

My wide receiver corps is so pathetic. Roy Williams, Steve Smith, Lee Evans, Hakeem Nicks, Donald Driver, Mike Sims-Walker. Too bad Sims-Walker is on a bye this week. Maybe after this week I make a trade for a WR with one of those RBs I got like Jacobs.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 25, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

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