Bills keep on picking, beat Panthers 20-9
Over the last two weeks, the Buffalo Bills haven't exactly proven themselves capable of playing competitive NFL football on an even playing field. What they have done, however, is proven themselves quite proficient at winning football games that their opponents simply don't want to win themselves.
Jairus Byrd intercepted two more passes, Ryan Fitzpatrick made some timely throws in an otherwise mediocre performance, and the Bills recovered a muffed fumble late in regulation - sounds familiar, right? - to escape Carolina with a 20-9 victory.
Statistically, Buffalo was dominated in this one. Carolina gained 425 yards offensively, two and a half times the amount Buffalo's still-struggling offense managed (167). Panthers RB DeAngelo Williams had a big game, gaining 149 yards on 21 touches and scoring a big touchdown in the fourth quarter to cut Buffalo's lead to 17-9. But three Jake Delhomme interceptions - the first two to Byrd, with a final desperation heave picked off by George Wilson to seal the win - and the aforementioned muffed punt led directly to 17 of Buffalo's 20 points on the day. Buffalo has intercepted nine passes in the past two weeks, and the plethora of turnovers is the biggest reason for the Bills' two-game winning streak.
Buffalo got the scoring started in the first quarter when Marshawn Lynch scored from seven yards out to make it 7-0. The score was set up by a Byrd interception on Delhomme. Fred Jackson was tackled in the end zone for a safety in the second quarter, sending the teams to the locker room with the Bills up 7-2. Buffalo's defense held firm in the third quarter, and in the fourth, the second of Byrd's interceptions set up a Fitzpatrick-to-Lee Evans touchdown to make it 14-2. Fitzpatrick then hit Evans on a 50-yard bomb on the next possession, setting up a Rian Lindell field goal to make it 17-2. Williams then capped off a frenetic Panthers drive to cut the lead to 17-9, but after a nice defensive stop, Panthers returner Kenny Moore fumbled a Brian Moorman punt. Derek Fine recovered, Lindell added a field goal to make it 20-9, and Wilson's INT ended the game late.
The Bills were beneficiaries of an opportunistic defense, some timely big throws from Fitzpatrick (who whovered somewhere between mediocre and quitely proficient in this one), and truly outstanding special teams play. They clearly aren't anywhere near being a serious playoff contender at the moment, but they're keeping themselves in the playoff chase and giving themselves a chance to improve and make a (more) serious run. (In a perfect world, anyways. One where the Bills don't play like garbage ever.) The win puts Buffalo at 3-4 on the season, with a Week 8 home date with the 4-3 Houston Texans looming.
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boy, byrd is really playing pretty well. he only had two tackles, but he had some monster hits today to accompany his two picks.
those two tackles were stopping his old roomie on 4th down and steve smith on his long reception, right? not a bad choice for two tackles.
speaking of tackles, with the lack of a pass rush in the first half, where was maybin? seems the coaches have really no faith in him. byrd, wood, and levitre are contributing, but maybin’s been nowhere.
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by the_prophet on Oct 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Byrd’s best play may have been his shoe-string tackle in Steve Smith to save a quick touchdown.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
That was a huge play and I was pleased that Gus and Steve pointed that out.
The two picks were pretty much gifts. Not that he’s not to be commended for being around the ball and actually making the plays, but yeah, that Smith score would have been a huge game changer and probably cost the Panthers another minute or two off the clock.
by nickfeely8 on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t expect much from Maybin this year. Hopefully he can develop some moves and muscles in the off-season and be ready to move into a starting position next year.
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by NolaBillsFan on Oct 25, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybin was in there later in the game. He had a tackle.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybin played, did nothing as always. He had a 15 yard penalty though.
I’d LOVE to see that kid do anything this year.
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by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson was flagged for that hit to the head not Maybin. Both of them went high at Delhomme.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn’t it maybin that throttled him, though?
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by the_prophet on Oct 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was Johnson who was called on it.
by Macktruck on Oct 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A win is a win...........
And I’ll take it. We won this one against a bad QB, just like we should have beat Cleveland….. despite our lack of offensive production in both games.
Defense came up again………. despite poor play, when they had to.
I predict that if we play bad QBs for the rest of the year like Snatchez and Delhomey, we will win the Super Bowl!!!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Oct 25, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some Thoughts.
1. T.O. is a waste @ this point. He couldn’t look more dis-interested.
2. I consider myself a realist, and I just think this team is still awful. I mean the offense is winning in spite of it’s self.
3. J Byrd is exactly what a FS in the NFL should be: A guy w/ a nose for the ball, and can throw his body around.
4. How come there are good games every week in this league, yet for 3 weeks in a row the Bills have set the game of football back 50 years. Easily 3 of the worst games i’ve ever seen by 2 NFL teams in each of the 3 weeks, and there 2-1. Dick Jauron…WHAT A LEADER.
by Michael_Necci on Oct 25, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excuse Me:
The team is winning in SPITE of the offense.
by Michael_Necci on Oct 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a realist too, and our defense has played VERY well. Stats can be somewhat deceiving. Our front 4 has played very well. Stroud and Schoebel look like pro-bowlers and so does Kyle when he is in there. Byrd is AMAZING. His INT’s didn’t look fantastic this week, but they are still INT’s like Polomula, he is in the right place at the right time. George Wilson has also played very well, maybe better than Scott gasp.
A win is a win… What pisses me off more than anything is that we would be in the race if it weren’t for the horrible loss in Foxboro and the worst game I have ever seen (Cleveland)… This is why we are not a great team… flip those losses and we look great right now.
Yeah, and TO’s drops are getting real old, I don’t know why Tasker didn’t call him out on the play he didn’t even try to come back and make the catch (underthrown ball).
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Wilson has also played very well, maybe better than Scott gasp.
And Whitner. When has Whitner ever been involved in so many big plays in two weeks?
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by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whitner and Byrd will be starting even when Scott comes back, right?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine so.
How could you take Byrd out of the lineup?
He is making plays.
If he is this much a playmaker as a rookie, it’s scary good, how much better he can get.
For all the heat the FO has took from all of us, I think they got the Byrd pick right.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My preference would be Scott at SS and Byrd at FS. Scott and Whitner are both good against the run, but IMO Scott is better. And Scott truly excels at covering TE’s. He can handle the best of them.
by Macktruck on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As consistent as Scott has been, he doesn’t have the potential for big plays that Donte has. Whitner also has more versatility.
by karovda on Oct 26, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential is great and all
but turning that into those actual big plays is what we need. Whitner has done a little bit of that this year, but has a long ways to go if his production is to meet his potential.
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with K 100%.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 26, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Scott really done any better? They’ve both been injured, but I just don’t see how you can justify starting Scott over Whitner unless something more clear-cut happens.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you. Whitner over Scott until further notice.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said anything about starting Scott....
I’m just saying that having potential means nothing if you don’t turn it into actual production. I’m not involving Scott in that at all, it is just a comment about Whitner.
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by Kurupt on Oct 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Failure to reply. The comment was more to Macktruck.
I just think certain players have certain roles. I see Whitner’s as being a run-defending SS who can adequately be moved around when necessary but probably should be allowed to (finally) get accustomed to a specific role in our D.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be the SS
Because he isn’t good enough against the pass to be a top notch FS. His skills, good and bad, are more suited for SS….
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by Kurupt on Oct 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big plays are great, and I’m delighted we are getting them from Byrd, but Whitner has been pretty disappointing in producing them at SS (one reason he was moved to FS, where he is clearly not as good as Byrd). Scott may not be spectacular, but he is really solid in stopping RB’s and TE’s. Donte still has trouble with the angles he takes to the ballcarrier, and he does not do well covering the best TE’s (while Scott usually shuts them down). Donte may have been a first-round pick, but Scott was a second-rounder, and in my book he’s the better SS of the two.
by Macktruck on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of play so far… To me it looks like Wilson should start at SS and Byrd and FS… If you forget everything else (draft position, previous starting spot, etc.)
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? No. Wilson should NOT be playing SS unless Whitner is hurt. He’s a decent fill in, but he’s not a consistent run stopper.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will just disagree with you on that, I think Wilson has done a fine job tackling. He shows a knack for sneaking through blocks to get to the ball carrier… I think he is equal to Whitner in that respect.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you think Wilson (who is a FS by trade and a former WR) is the better choice to start at SS when both Whitner and Scott are available? I just don’t get it.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd is AMAZING. His INT’s didn’t look fantastic this week, but they are still INT’s like Polomula, he is in the right place at the right time.
I don’t think I’m really saying anything different than what you said here, but I would specifically add that Byrd PUTS himself in the right place in order to make those plays. I think Whitner would be going for the hit/tackle on the receiver and be out of position for those potential INTs. That’s what makes Byrd such a playmaker – he sees the play developing as it does and gets himself in the best possible position to make the big play.
I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.
by thefourwinds on Oct 26, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whitner absolutely needs to play. Byrd probably has won the FS spot but Whitner has been playing much much better this year and even has an interception return for a touchdown. He is one of the better tacklers and one of the better players against the run. We absolutely need him to start at SS and we have two good backups. Not a problem.
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by pasaluki on Oct 26, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we start
Whitner and Byrd we will have the best young safety combo in the league. Both are 24 or younger, one plays the run very well and i sa reliable and big hitter and the other makes plays on the ball as a hawk. Perfect combo, both also seem to be improving in the others department as well.
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by poz on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My comment had nothing to do with whether Whitner should play/start at SS or not. I was responding to Jason from OH-IO and adding that I thought Byrd’s INTs were not just a result of being in the right place, but of putting himself in the right place by seeing how the play was developing, and then commenting on why Whitner seeems not to be making those same sorts of plays. His first instinct seems to be to go for the hit/tackle on the receiver rather than go after the ball, which is what Byrd has been doing.
None of this relates to whether Whitner should play SS or not.
I remain convinced that somehow Drew Rosenhaus negotiated a playing time deal for Roscoe into the contract for TO.
by thefourwinds on Oct 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they have won two games in a row come back and complain when they start losing….Negative Nancy
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jairus Byrd is the only positive thing from the last 2 weeks. How can you take this team seriously? How can anybody!
by Michael_Necci on Oct 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because they have won two games in a row on the road….the first time since ’04
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would you like them to do? Realistically....
The O looked better than last week. No, we are not making the playoffs, but at least we are not getting beat by bad teams.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course the Bills suck, you just figure that out? it’s still fun to see them win, though. cheer up, enjoy the moment for surely it will not last.
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah really. Save you negative pessimism for after they lose. Your right, this team plays ugly, but right now they are winning ugly. Be pessimistic after a loss, you will get plenty of more opportunities.
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by sireric on Oct 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
geesh
are you kidding me? Byrd is the only positive? How bout the 11 men playing as a unit on defense with 5 starters on def out! Unreal…You ever think Jauron’s system on defense might be really friggn good????
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go figure Jauron was a DB himself, and some of our best players are in the secondary!!
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Fitz
Don’t forgot that Fitzpatrick made some great throws when they were really needed. He and Lee Evans appear to have more chemistry than Trent and Evans. If you exclude his throws to T.O. (with whom he doesn’t seem to have any chemistry, and who may really no longer be the WR he once was), Fitz played a pretty good game.
by Macktruck on Oct 25, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s be serious for a second. For every great looking ball to Lee Evans, there were one or two terrible throws. Fitz did enough to win today, but he did not look good out there.
by Mr. h on Oct 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
his deep throws were woefully off target, and when he had TO wide open he under threw it terribly.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the sad part is.......it was an improvement from what we have gotten from Edwards
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which i dont get
trent can MAKE those throws, he just refuses to. its really weird.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he is physically able.....be mentally.....you might as well try to teach an alligator to high jump!
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
here's the rec'ing ball.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t throw any boneheaded INTs.
Which is more than you can say about Edwards recently.
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by UZ on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game. Fitz did last week and he did a bunch last year.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go… Your boy Jauron. I forgot to mention his incredible leadership skills.
Jauron’s system works??? Is having the worst run defense in the league a part of that genius?
by Michael_Necci on Oct 26, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is having the worst run defense in the league a part of that genius?
No… but not giving up a lot of points is. Does anyone care how many rushing yards we give up if they only score one TD?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee Evans is a pretty damn big positive over the last 2 weeks.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Told you
we should have traded TO !
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep.......I was never convinced TO would produce on the field. Nothing we can do now.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And resting TO this week turned out to be a fantastic idea, man was he & fitz ever in synch – wow!!
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think it hurt them? T.O. running routes in practice isn’t going to help him snare balls.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't think that was the problem
TO dropped passes and looked disinterested. Sorry, but that’s not because him and Fitz didn’t practice together on Friday….
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by Kurupt on Oct 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The overthrown balls were.
Like I said the other day in my piece on why we had to trade TO
He misses half his targets, it’s been like that for a while now. He lead the league in drops last year. And given that we are not able to get him the qty of touches that he needs to be productive, well you get what we have at the moment, a crappy looking receiver.
I still contend that those overthrown balls could have been more in-synch like the ones being thrown to Lee. Only a moron would have given him a day off. For X-mas, I want a real QB…
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the overthrown balls from Trent to T.O. were… a lack of practice together. Wait, what?
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If TO helps Evans get open
That’s all I need from him.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to love that Byrd!
I was happy on draft day and he’s proving now that he fully deserved to be drafted in the 2nd round. Two weeks in a row where we win only because of his INTs, granted it was idiot QB passes but nonetheless, we would be 1-6 and Jauron would be getting fired on Monday, so I guess DJ will be bringing young Byrd out to a nice steak dinner tonight!
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Funny listening to hype master Gus johnson call Owens a “first ballot hall of famer”… I don’t recall guys like Michael Irvin, Art Monk etc. ever having such a bad case of alligator arms as Owens showed early in the game.
If he thinks he’s going to get another big contract, he’s got to be kidding. #2 wide receivers are a dime a dozen in this league.
One other thought – I have never seen a QB get 300 yards while looking so pathetic. Delhomme is Losman-esque these days. At least the Bills aren’t locked in with a QB like that.
by Pruitt on Oct 26, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh
I see false hopes on the rise……
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by BillsNYC on Oct 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it......if we beat a good team....then maybe
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jets? lol
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about the Texans :-)
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Jets are good
they just smoke showed the Raiders.
I’m proud of that win.
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by poz on Oct 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills won the game, but can you honestly say they beat the Jets?
I can’t. This game was different. The Bills won this game.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did?
It feels the same to me. They pretty much got dominated except for turnovers.
by Frank Reich Revolution on Oct 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only stat that matters… I will start beleiving when we get to .500.
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not saying it was great. Just not as bad as the Cleveland and the Jets games
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, sorry buddy
That fumbled punt return is what killed their chances. Once again, our opponent lost the game – not much merit goes to our Bills. That being said we did better against the run, only because of the errors tehy committed in the passing game which prevented them to pound the ball. Williams only ran the ball 16 times but for a whopping 5.6y per carry.l
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They still would have had to get all the way down the field, score a TD, then the 2-point conversion. Then the game would only be tied….the Bills won that game. Take your negativity and save it for another week.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you watch the same game as me? It was god-awful man. Our offense would have a hard time plying against a High school team. The only good news is that Fitz does two things better than Edwards, he takes more pokes downfield and he throws better ropes (much better) so he’s able to squeeze them in tighter places. But it is still painful to watch.
Again, they lost this game. Those INTs were bonehead throws that should have never happenned and that fumbled punt was just idiotic. Take those away and you have a 9-3 sleepfest.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should just remove all turnovers from every game and recalculate scores. Because turnovers aren’t real plays and shouldn’t count?
I guess we won MNF…
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by TEMSON on Oct 26, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, I get it the Bills won and we should be happy. But please lets not confuse this with a deserved Win.
Kaysay missed two Field goals that should have been made (39y & 43y). Not only would it have given them the lead at 8-7, it would have given them momentum and even more important, it would not have given us field position.
I realize that we won the game but it was against a bad opponent that played way below their already low expectations. Lets not kid ourselves, we are not anywhere near as good as some guys are implying.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s fine if you want to say we’re bad despite this win. I’m just tired of people saying “oh the game would have gone like this if this had happened” or “take out these plays and the score changes like this” – WHO CARES! What you’re talking about didn’t happen. What happened happened. (Sorry, this isn’t intended solely for you, I feel like a lot of people do this)
Besides – sure the Panthers had a couple bad plays that could have gone the other way but so did we (especially week one). So how is that any different?
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by TEMSON on Oct 26, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, our opponent lost the game – not much merit goes to our Bills
Don’t you think our defense and special teams had something to do with it? The offense, however bland, didn’t turn the ball over. So, really, given the in-game situations, all three phases did everything they needed to win, much more than can be said for the Browns game Put it on the board and move on to next week and the Texans.
Carolina by all means have stuck to the run. There was no reason whatsoever to have Delhomme pass so many times. If we won the game because of their tactical error, so be it. A win is a win no matter the reason. Sure these INT’s and fumble recoveries won’t last forever and there is a certain component of luck to them, but if they give our offense a few weeks to find some kind of groove, that’s all we need. I think the Bills have had a lot go against them this year and maybe we’re getting our share of good things. The important thing while our good fortune lasts is above all to find a rhythm on offense..
On a side note- Fitzpatrick is pretty mediocre but that TD pass to Evans was a thing of beauty. Excellent timing and ball placement.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing the Raiders might as well be a Bye week.
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well it wasnt for the Eagles
The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker
by poz on Oct 26, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Houston's O will tell us just how far our Defense is.
It will surely be a better test, than Sanchez or Delhomme.
If the turnovers keep coming, then we might still have a chance for a playoff spot despite our Dismal offense.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
… where?
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love me
some false hope
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by NolaBillsFan on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian I will pose this question to you?
If you watch Dwight Freeney, Dumervil, Mathis, even Osi, what do they have in common? Because of there size, they mostly line up very wide on pass russhing downs. Now, I am not saying Maybin is as good as any of thise guys, but what I am saying is why not take advantage of his extermely fast first step. Right now he really doesn’t have any moves, and when he is in the game the tackle just pushes him past the pocket. Why not give him a chance to beat the tackle to the edge or make a move back inside?
by The Irishman on Oct 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
enjoy the win
whats with all the false hope and we stink comments after a big win? Back to back road wins, back to back TDs from Lee Evans, back to back Byrd is the word.
We are 3-4 heading back home. I’m happy.
I have one complaint, and that is being ok to settle for field goals when we are winning. We lose close games in the jauron era not because we are unlucky but because we always leave the door open – if even a crack – for opposing teams. Go for TDs, don’t settle for poor runs for field goals at the end of games.
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by poz on Oct 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and the Fish choked big time. a good day.
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three pick-sixes for Henne. Poor guy…
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No! No feeling sorry for a guy plays for a inner division team, especially one who has already beaten us.
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Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
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by TearsofaClown on Oct 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you’re referring to the FG to get us to 17, and not the FG to get us to 20.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too.....the 3rd down play that set up the last FG was a good call.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOW AN EMOTION OF HAPPINESS AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Seriously, this was a good win all around. What’s with all the bad vibes? I’m pretty sure everyone here still knows the playoffs are a long shot.
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
exactly. whats the point of hating a whole season. Personally, I feel good after each Bills win, and terrible after each loss regardless of record. Its why I never root for them to lose
The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker
by poz on Oct 26, 2009 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I M P O SS I B L E
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
need a QB
Is it bad when the QB play looks similar between the Starter and #2? To me, Fitz isnt a bad backup. But he looks to play just as good as Edwards. I’m not saying bench edwards, because he could become better. What I really am saying is…..how good could this team be with a decent QB?
How many years can we go without making the playoffs...eventually the odds go in your favor.........right?!?!?
by Rudy916 on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trent isn’t a bad #2, fitz is a good #3. hopefully we find that dream franchise QB in the draft
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calm down man
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not so good
I think the last two games show that it is not JUST the QB. There are many issues. I do feel that Fitz is going to have more problems in bad weather. He was not very accurate on a perfect football day. I think, in that regard, we have a beter chance (don’t kill me) with Edwards going into winter (and RWS).
The line is young and prone to mistakes. That does’t help a QB, regardless of who he is.
by fansince60 on Oct 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best QB is the guy who makes plays.....flat out!
Again, no way Trent makes that TD throw to Evans.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I dont think that Fitz is good, but if we have our choice between a medicore QB that is deathly afraid to make any daring through and a slightly more medicore QB who has some balls to make the throws when necessary, Ill take the moe medicore QB (Fitz)
by ballinbills1315 on Oct 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what happened to everyone who was claiming that Fitz would throw 3 INTs and no TDs because he sucks so bad?
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are sitting in the corner holding their Edwards jersies and twitching uncontrolably.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true!
I am an Edwards fan and I’ve said all week I think Fitz has proven he is unafraid to make throws Trent is. I want to keep Fitz in against the Texans….AND i still think Edwards will be a good QB. But dang it, Fitz gets the ball to Lee!
The no huddle is gone, please sign tackles Runyan, Jones or Walker
by poz on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he does. He seems to have a bigger arm, throws with more velocity. I don’t think he’s the solution but at least he can provide a temporary spark.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got your wish
just announced. Fitz will start against the Texans
by LABillsFan on Oct 26, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they probably continued to not exist.
by Burger Trench on Oct 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, who predicted that? I could easily counter that by asking where all the people are who predicted that FItz would throw for 300 yards and 2 TDs. The easiest way to make a point is by making stuff up. The defense won this game, just like they did against the Jets. Fitz threw for a huge 123 yards, the defense had three INTs and Buffalo’s two TDs came on drives that started at the Carolina 7 and 27 yard line and they had a FG drive start at the Car 20 after the muffed punt. Seriously, Derek Anderson and Matt Cassel QB’ed the only two teams to throw for less yardage than the terrible Ryan Fitzpatrick.
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by kaisertown on Oct 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "terrible" Fitz had 0 INTs today in a winning effort
The defense gave up a whopping 425 yards today. Both units made plays. It was a team win.
Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes
by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offense was terrible. The team won in spite of Fitz. If anybody thinks this team can go anywhere with a no yardage, but no turnover QB, then go for it. But Fitz averages less yards per play and per drive than Edwards does on his worst days.
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by kaisertown on Oct 25, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many pick 6s has Fitz thrown? Fumbles? Sacks? Shouldn't we count those too?
I hope Edwards plays next week. Just to see what happens. Fitz has lead the Bills to 2 wins. That is the only stat that matters. And, No, I don’t think this team is going anywhere with Fitz or Edwards for that matter.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitz
I like some of what he offers. But I think he should start this week vs Hou, then bring Back Edwards for the stretch run. If anyone thinks we have a prayer in hell with Fitzpatrick to win 6-7 more games, I just can’t see it. Edwards needs to get healthy and ready to step up and be a man
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by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we have a prayer in hell to win 6-7 more games with either of them, to be honest.
But right now in the two games Fitz has played he’s provided the Bills with 1 more win than Edwards did in 5 games.
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by UZ on Oct 26, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Actually our Defense is doing better since injuries forced Byrd on to the field. I find it incredibly pathetic that our leaders thought that he wasn’t ready to be a starter and all he’s done in two offial starts is 4 INTs, geez I wonder what being ready would have been like?
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez man. They’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t. They make a decent draft choice (one I definitely didn’t see coming) and people criticize them. The guy is late to the party because of NFL rules and everybody’s in their grill. They get him on the field sooner than they like, he makes some above average, though not extraordinary plays, and everyone is yelling that he should’ve been on the field sooner. Yikes.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bills have won two games with Fitz as the QB, but I wouldn’t say that he has lead them to anything. I’d actually say the defense and special teams has lead Fitz to a pair of victories. Not having one of his terribly thrown passes get picked off is nice, but it doesn’t make him less likely than Trent to throw INTs in the future. The Bills offense hasn’t been able to move the ball at all and just like last week, I think this is an easier win for the Bills if Trent was healthy and playing and Fitz was holding a clipboard. Fitz essentially led this team to 10 points. The Bills first TD came on a drive that started at the Carolina 7 and Fitz never threw a pass and the last FG came on a drive that started at the Carolina 20 and stalled out inside the 10. I can’t imagine Buffalo winning a game against a good offense like Houston in the same style that they’ve beaten NY and Carolina. I feel like people are appluading Fitz’s play, but if these last two games had been QBed by Edwards and gone the exact same way, people would be critical. If Edwards and the Bills only scored 20 points in a game where they had drives start at the opponents 7, 20 and 27, nobody would be impressed.
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by kaisertown on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Critical.....yes
but if these last two games had been QBed by Edwards and gone the exact same way, people would be critical.
We all agree that Fitz is a backup QB ….Edwards is supposed to be our starter. Big difference in expectations.
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by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have a no yardage, 1 TD, no turnover QB than a no yardage, 1 TD 2 turnover QB.
Which is what Edwards has been.
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by UZ on Oct 26, 2009 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards’ play in the Pats game was pretty much spot on. He was gun-shy from there on out but we also lost Butler and the O-Line was in flux. Fitzpatrick came in after the line had settled a bit – he has benefited from having the same O-Line in for all his snaps as well as the transition away from no huddle. Edwards was 5 for 5 when he left that game against the Jets and very well might have come around without the dozens of penalties the Bills were committing trying to run that no huddle with 4.5 rookies on the o-line.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, no way Trent makes that TD throw to Evans.
Didn’t he do just that in the TB game, twice?
by Sixteenthback on Oct 26, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re right. The common thread over the past decade of losing (after the dumped Travis Henry) is a lack of commitment and imagination in the ground game. Do we really need a running game coordinator to put what we see out there?
Why didn’t we one-cut the Panthers until they showed they could stop it? The Panthers looked like us on those runs where Lynch went to the right and cut back to the left. That style looks like it fits Lynch to a tee.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Move Whitner to SS and keep Byrd at FS
We might actually see Whitner break out with a competent FS next to him for once.
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by BillsNYC on Oct 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're right
I think Byrd has earned himself a starting position even when Scott heals.
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by NolaBillsFan on Oct 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is 100% the game plan going forward. Scott becomes a highly useful third safety.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
monumental even for this staff
Not playing Byrd would be THE monumental blunder from a coaching staff quite adept at making them
by fansince60 on Oct 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian, with all the Whitner bashing I’ve done over the past 2 years – you can guess that I am quite happy with Byrd!! I am so glad that Whitner is not our FS anymore!!!!!
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Wilson has played well in back-up duty as well…two INTs in two games.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
scott should now start at linebacker for the horrible Ellison
by csc06258 on Oct 26, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we get it. You don’t like Keith Ellison.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t either, he’s my next target.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I;m kind of discouraged about posting lately, especially before the last two wins. I don’t know how you deal with the groundhog day litany of non-issues.
I think I need to find a player or assistant to the assistant position coach to call out and drum for his firing.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say that I’ve been more positive, or at least more balanced than a lot of people on the board here, but I still don’t like how Ellison looks. He’s playing with more attitude and stringing some tackles together, but still has major flaws. I’m not sure there’s much to do about it this season, given the genocide we’ve endured at the LB position, but he’s a strong candidate for being replaced in the off-season, IMO.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 26, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I was very happy with the D’s performance in the fourth quarter with a lead. There was only the one over-zealous blitz that they would like to take back, and Byrd covered us on that one with that great tackle of Steve Smith.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the league-leading tackler? That guy is never in the right spot.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know… Wilson has played pretty well… I am still not sold on Whitner, I feel he gets respect simply because of his first round draft status. I keep thinking “this” is the year he is going to look like a first rounder… Every year disappointed. No love for Wilson around here?
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Wilson
and Byrd and Florence. Sometimes it appears our backup defensive backs are better than the starters.
by ccthemovieman on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s probably because all of our starters are always injured.
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by TearsofaClown on Oct 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whitner is extremely solid in run support, very unlike George Wilson who scares me on the run. But Wilson has looked decent against the pass.I would still much rather see Whitner out there because before he has been nagged with this injury he looked destined to have a very good year.
by tripl21 on Oct 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Scott is even better than Whitner against the run.
by Macktruck on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but only marginally. Whitner is a better team leader also.
Whitner needs to tackle properly because he is always hurt.
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking at the box score
And I just can’t believe they won this game. Amazing. The Sabres stole one last night, the Bills stole one today. I’ll take it!
by Frank Reich Revolution on Oct 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 weeks in a row now. the only numbers that matter are the final score.
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope we can end the “Byrd is the word” comments before anyone makes one!
by Mark Parisi on Oct 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ba ba ba ba ba byrd is the word wa wa wa word
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Byrd is word = no truer words have ever been spoken.
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by NolaBillsFan on Oct 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2935500/family_guy_volume_7_bird_is_the_word/
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by dzil on Oct 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
No, this is the opposite of what I want!
by Mark Parisi on Oct 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too late for that...
I put it in the game thread after huge tackle to save the would be TD!!!
by Tatunka on Oct 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see Draft starting, although he might be better at WLB, rather than SLB.
I think Palmer is “thinking too much” out there and not reacting causing him to be a little slower.
Secondary deserves this win. Some of the best coverage we’ve seen in years.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see the Bills get a bounce at the end of the game on ST
for us to get that fumble and have something go our way late in the game.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't even heard we traded Roscoe to the Panthers!
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Challenge to see our OL struggle really badly.
Meredith and Bell are really out skilled and over their heads starting for this team. They are getting valuable playing time, but it really causes our offense to play poorly. The OL has a hard time opening up any holes for Lynch or Jackson.
Hopefully this improves in the future. I don’t think Edwards or Fitzpatrick can get into any groove dropping back with the pressure they are getting.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the bills o-line was badly outplayed in this game. With Panthers in the nickle for most of the game and only having 6 in the box, the o-line looked bad. Bell and Meredith were beaten cleanly on several plays on the edge. Even the middle of the line was consistantly pushed back.
Lynch and Jackson had no running room today, and Fitzgerald was always under pressure.
by Northern Bills on Oct 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was more because bell played one of the best ends in the league than he’s a bad player. meredith was getting smoked consistently.
look at it this way. how many penalties did the bills get called on them from the line? huge improvement in that regard.
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by the_prophet on Oct 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Meredith drew Peppers most of the day…and yes he got burned a few times….but Fitz was able to move up in the pocket.
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by howedyhowe on Oct 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meredith did draw Peppers all day. Lynch chipped him almost everytime in the 2nd half
Did you see one of the plays in the first half when Meredith was tossed backward by Peppers bull rush. Meredith was flying backwards through the air. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an OL get tossed like that before.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a left tackle you are going to face the best the other team has to offer every week. No arguing that Pepper is an elite player, but almost every team has their top end lining up over the left tackle.
Bell better get used to it.
by Northern Bills on Oct 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said. There are few Peppers in the league, but LT is a positiion where you line up across from a great player almost every single week,
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by kaisertown on Oct 25, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meredith (RT) drew Peppers most of the game. Is isn’t true that the LT always faces the best. Whoever the opponent deems as your “worst” tackle draws the best rusher. The Elite rushers rush from either side of the field, depending on the opponents personnel and in-game adjustments. It is a myth that LT faces the elite guys. Last year, Walker got a lot of the best speed guys because he couldn’t handle a speed rush.
You need your tackles to be good, regardless of the end of the line they play on.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slow hand-offs didn't help either
any gap that could have opened was stuffed by the time our RB got to the hole…
by Tatunka on Oct 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fitzpatrick doesn't mind gunning it...
That quick slant to Evans and how hard he threw the ball. The out to Josh Reed. The long pass to Evans, even the out to TO that was over his head all had some heat on it.
Edwards does not seem to throw it as hard… wondering if that causes some of his indecision?
Fitz needs to set his feet to throw well. When he is on the move… he struggles.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all i got to say
is all you knuckleheads scared of the Panthers 1-2 RB monster….Look at us now….Look at us now. Our defense is good and it’s about damn time we got some credit! Our offense is still wretched but hopefully one day it’ll click and we can support this awesome defense we have. Not to mention Bobby April’s ST’s was Terrific today
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
easy Marv....not like we shut down their running game,
and our D gave up 425 yds total. But, it was a win and a better game than last week.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
but everyone thought they were going to run for 300+. People don’t give our pass defense the credit it deserves. Dick Jauron has assembled one hell of a secondary and it should get the respect it fairly and rightly deserves. Now go sing big Ed this week if Williams is out and let’s hope Andre Johnson is out this week. This Bills team will make a run and I’m just sick of all the negativity….I will celebrate this one for shizzo!
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha..... alright Marv :-)
I am happy for you……enjoy!
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if only we could have assembled the other pieces of a good team…
kidding ;-D
mostly
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 25, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
I just (if you can’t tell) am sick of the Dick Jauron bashing, and am happy that the man got a couple of road wins, with his patch work defense, of secondary of guys he drafted. They are producing. I am just happy we have a very meaningful game this Sunday after being 1-4.
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know. I’m with you, actually. Our pass D didn’t get much respect at all before. Now, I think they might open some eyes.
I just want to make sure everyone stays balanced in their assessment of what just happened and where the team is at. Positive results, but room for improvement.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 25, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
we aren’t going much of anywhere, unless the offense finds something real quick, but I just love having a defense that plays with so much heart and shuts teams down. especially in the red zone
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dick Jauron has assembled one hell of a secondary and it should get the respect it fairly and rightly deserves
I cannot argue this point. McKelvin/McGee with Byrd & Whitner/Scott we have a very good secondary. Let’s not forget that McGee was from the previous administration and both Whitner & McKelvin both cost us an 8th & 11th pick overall – So credit can be given but it has cost our team two first rounders in 3 years. If he would have done it with 3rd and 4th rounders I’d be a little more impressed.
let’s hope Andre Johnson is out this week
Don’t take this the wrong way but that’s the only way that we have a chance in hell at winning the next one!
I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!
by keysh67 on Oct 26, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other chance would be Schauby picking this week for his mandatory in-season hiatus.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he would have done it with 3rd and 4th rounders I’d be a little more impressed.
Like the Steelers with Troy Polamalu, the Colts with Bob Sanders, and the Ravens with Ed Reed. Nothing is ever good enough for some people I swear. The Ravens spent how many first round picks on their secondary? Wanna go bash them too?
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pats and Giants have been DB heavy early in drafts for the last 3 – 5 years too.
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by kaisertown on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is the defense good or did we take advantage of two of the most mistake prone qb's on the planet?
im all for enjoying our win, but let’s not get carried away.
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by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they are not the two most mistake prone QBs to take advantage of.
You would need Jamarcus Russell in there at #1,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Oct 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't argue with that.
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by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I did say “two of the most” not the two most.
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by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delhomme airmailed a few passes. The first one to Byrd, the other
to Wilson. Byrd does a nice job of seeing the players in front of him. Schaub is a good QB and mixes his passes well.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when is Mark Sanchez one of the most mistake prone QBs on the planet?
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by UZ on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since he threw 5 INT's in a game.
would it be better to say one of the most mistake-prone qb’s on the planet and a rookie?
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by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since his 10 INTs lead the league.
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by kaisertown on Oct 25, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then how about since his 17 combined INTs and fumbles leads the league.
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by kaisertown on Oct 26, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's definitely in the bottom 5
35 – Derek Anderson
34 – Josh Johnson
33 – JaMarcus Russell
32 – Mark Sanchez
31 – Jake Delhomme
But that was before this weekend’s games.
by LABillsFan on Oct 25, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying
we’re the 85 Bears, but clearly the way they played vs Brady, Brees, and the last 2 weeks, this secondary is clearly elite
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by MARVelous on Oct 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you
i love the secondary, but our front seven is not where it needs to be for this to be a good D.
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by JPH on Oct 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly elite?
Come on Marv, don’t go overboard.
They’ve been making plays, which we’ve obviously needed, but to call them elite is a bit far. They did allow friggin’ Jake Delhomme to throw for over 300 yards. They did well to keep them out of the endzone via the air, but we’ll see how they respond when we play a very good passing offense who looks to throw all over us next week. I hope they are up to the challenge.
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
I believe Elite. If we had a consistent pass rush, this secondary would be legit. No McKelvin, no Whitner, no Scott. Come on, who the hell would think Byrd and the Senator would be makn plays? What depth we have and what playmakers we have back there. ELITE…yes
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by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just have to agree to disagree
Good yes, Elite no
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
and better than expected at this point
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and how bout
another chris kelsay siting today? how many sacks is that? 3-4?
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by MARVelous on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree with Marv on this one. But because of depth, not necessarily individuals
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by Jason from OH-IO on Oct 26, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they didn’t really try to run the ball! The Panthers had 46 passing plays and 25 rushing; sure, they were playing from behind in the 4th quarter (13-1 pass vs. run), but why didn’t they just pound the ball up the middle constantly?
Not that I’m complaining; it’s nice to see that the Bills don’t have a monopoly in crazy decisions. But who looks at the Browns/Jets game film and then gives Williams 16 touches and 44 to Delhomme?
by Krenn on Oct 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For whatever reason, teams in general do that. The Bills do that. Maybe that’s the key to mediocrity. Carolina came out passing and stuck with it even though they could run at will, and had won games running the last couple of weeks. The Bills need the same thing – Run the damn ball! If Lynch has 25 carries, good things will come of it.
You give Delhomme 44 passes and only bad things will happen. He’s like Favre without the ridiculous luck.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 points ...
The difference between 3-4 and 5-2 … ugh.
by sabre74kkn on Oct 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three up and three down
Three up:
Pass coverage is truly outstanding. Byrd’s play speaks for itself, Florence is playing well, and McGee is his usual solid self. Wilson played well- really like his physicality.
Smart offensive game plan. We didn’t do anything that we couldn’t. Van Pelt put Fitzpatrick in positions to succeed. Granted, sometimes the best thing was a punt- but Van Pelt recognizes the OL issues and the need for Fitzpatrick to be a game manager, and called plays accordingly.
Special Teams. I lost count of how many bang-bang plays we had on punt coverage. Except for Lindell’s kickoff out of bounds, the unit was back to it’s normal awesomeness.
Three down
Offensive line couldn’t run block and could barely pass block. Ron will break this down for us in detail, but without further study, we were not good from what I saw.
Pass Rush. We got sacks and pressure when we knew the Panthers had to pass.
Showboating. Lots of congratulating and celebrating for doing nothing much. Was it me, or did Lynch try to walk into the end zone on the first TD? Too many guys breaking up passes or catching first downs and showboating. Works for guys like Shockey, not for you Josh Reed. When we’re undefeated, you can do that too.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Too many guys breaking up passes or catching first downs and showboating.
but that is today’s NFL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see guys start celebrating when they line up correctly.
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by Joe P. on Oct 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Our OL probably should, assuming that positive reinforcement contributes to future success.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Oct 25, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showboating. Lots of congratulating and celebrating for doing nothing much. Was it me, or did Lynch try to walk into the end zone on the first TD? Too many guys breaking up passes or catching first downs and showboating. Works for guys like Shockey, not for you Josh Reed. When we’re undefeated, you can do that too.
AHHHHH! we wanted some heart and fire from this team, and when they show it, we get pissed? get excited, your playing nfl football out there. lynch was walking in because he didnt think anyone was around him, once he saw that one dude he high stepped it on in there, i dont think that was show boating as much as lynch thought the touchdown was easier than it was. while i do agree that excessive showboating is not a good thing for this team, i think that getting excited for a 1st down or celebrating a 4th down stop is warranted when you are playing on a team that doesnt give you much to be celebrating for. so im all for showing positive emotion!
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 25, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
About time this team started showing some emotion. It’s so much better than the dull attitude we’ve seen far too often with this team.
I do agree that Lynch needs to get in the endzone first. Celebrating after the play is fine, but let it finish first!
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what’s with that? Next thing you know Jauron will show some emotion and we’ll get pissed at him too!
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by UZ on Oct 26, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, I love Lynch, he can walk into the endzone if he wants, he is a beast! just think if this guy had a good line like Peterson does, he would be nasty
by csc06258 on Oct 26, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can definitely tell that Childress the Vikings’ coach fell off of Andy Reid’s coaching tree. What other idiot would give Peterson less than 20 rushes? If Peterson gets 5 more rushes, the Vikings win that game against the Steelers.
It just seems that teams go pass-wacky when down 3 points in the first quarter this year. It’s ridiculous.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the showboating as long as it goes both ways...
Most of the players in this league have to run and jump around in this league or else their name won’t be called much by the announcers or TV camera’s won’t stay on them much. TV and name recognition goes a long way in this league where media and tv endorsements, and youtube are the hype. Josh Reed does a lot for this team with the limited opportunities he gets. Lynch hasn’t seen any room for running all day so when he cut back side and saw the endzone, it probably was like Wow look at me Mom.
Showboating is fine in a close game.
Showboating is not fine in a lopsided game.
by dabillsr1 on Oct 25, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To all who jumped on my showboating comment
There is a huge gap between playing hard and showing emotion, and what we saw yesterday.
Case in point: Pittsburgh Steelers. They show a ton of emotion and fire (way more than the Bills), and more heart than anybody. They don’t celebrate first downs. They don’t “walk” into the end zone like Lynch- and CSC: there’s no excuse for that kind of crap no matter who you are.
We should take a lesson on the difference.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lynch was surprised that he had nobody hanging off of his body. It defnitely looked to me like shock rather than showboating, at least in Lynch’s case.
Using the Steelers as an example of showboat free football is probably a mistake. Did you see Santonio Holmes? He deserved to showboat a bit after that ridiculous catch and run, the blocking was great. Then the next play happened – Mendenhall fumble.
I think the worst showboaters are the Chargers defense.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No team doesn’t showboat. And Holmes does it a lot. But for how good they are, compared to how little they showboat, is telling IMO.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m not sure that it really effects how a team plays, but it certainly gets ridiculous. At least he’s decent, but Shawne Merriman celebrates every tackle he makes regardless of situation or result. He tackles a guy after a 10 yard run and bounces up celebrating. Ridiculous.
The Bills probably need a little more cache before they can get away with celebrating too much. I personally didn’t think they were too over the top.
by syrbillsfan on Oct 26, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Lynch “walk-in” was ridiculous.
My standard for celebrations and what the coach allows is: What Would Bill Parcells do?
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by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't celebrate first downs?
Have you seen Hines Ward?
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by Kurupt on Oct 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
The toughest receiver in the game with two Super Bowl rings gets excited after first downs.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re digging yourself a pretty serious hole here. Players shouldn’t celebrate first downs, but then Hines Ward can because he can take a hit and he was part of some winning teams? Talk about a double standard.
I think it’s a weak argument to make to begin with. Who cares what they act like? It’s not like it’s disrespecting anyone; or, if you rather, it’s not like the winning teams acting out isn’t equally disrespectful. Let them play.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are getting him off topic....which was unnecessary celebrations and showboating
I can see players celebrating when they actually do something worth celebrating. It has gone to far. A player celebrating a tackle they made when the opponent gains 3 yards on 2nd and 7 is not necessary, IMHO. As far as showboating goes….two words…Leon Lett
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by Joe P. on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
How many times have you ever seen a Steeler, Colt, Patriot, etc. ever let up before getting to the end zone?
Does Hines Ward drop to one knee and play the guitar like Jeremy Shockey after first downs? Especially when them getting there was still in doubt?
There is a difference between getting excited and showboating. Lynch crossed the line. It’s horse crap under normal circumstances and especially so for a team that hasn’t accomplished much.
I personally don’t like showboating and never will. Getting excited is fine. What Lynch did was BS.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meant to say
How many times have you ever seen a Steeler, Colt, Patriot, etc. ever let up before getting to the end zone? Especially when them getting there was still in doubt?
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK. I pretty much disagree with you on every point you’ve made on this particular subject, and we’ll leave it at that, because we’re just kind of going ’round in circles.
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by Brian Galliford on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We disagree a lot
And I’m OK with that.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit post instead of preview
The conversation is usually good, informative, disagreement is good too.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im with brian
celebrating is a part of football, and i for one am pissed they keep penalizing it. these guys are paid millions to play a game. i would be having as much fun as possible. every team showboats, and every player has had his time rubbing it in someones face. even the colts, steelers, or any other team you want to throw out there. i for one am very excited to see the entire buffalo team show positive emotion out there!
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Wallace slowed up and did a flip into the end zone with a pair of defenders about five yards behind him yesterday. And you don’t think Randy Moss has ever slowed up to the point of practically walking after catching a bomb in New England? I think we’re more critical of the Bills because it’s the team we watch every single week while we only catch other teams here and there.
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by kaisertown on Oct 26, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
The Lynch thing really rubbed me the wrong way.
by Der Jaeger on Oct 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Marshawn TD was pathetic. I’ve definitely never seen a player slow up to that degree or on a play that started so close to the end zone with so many defenders around him. It was really bad.
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by kaisertown on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the fact that we should be 5-2 that bugs me. The fumble in game 1 and not being able to beat the awful Browns when they complete 2 passes and score 6 points. That’s the difference between 3-4 and 5-2.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 26, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We may see all three safeties on the field
They might use Donte in the slot, with BS and JB in the traditional spots. Or we could see Scott closer to the line in a 4-2-5. A 4-2-5 is not an unusual package formation, except on known running downs. It would allow us to minimize our linebacker weakness and maximize our secondary depth. I’m not saying to use this formation as a base formation, but on passing downs or plays we suspect passes, it could be dynamite.
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by Dyl on Oct 26, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, not dynamite exactly. But the most efficient way to get the most out of our defense? Absolutely.
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by Dyl on Oct 26, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, to get the very most out of this D we might experiment with a 3-4 next year??
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by UZ on Oct 26, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure MORE linebackers is the answer, though I would prefer the 3-4 scheme. I think BETTER is the ideal.
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by Dyl on Oct 26, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that makes sense
we’d need to dig up at least 2 or 3 new linebackers, rather than 1 or 2, and we’d be going with 1 NT, when neither of our DT’s are true NT’s and they are probably the two best players on the field for us.
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by JPH on Oct 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point, this could be a true statement with 3 safeties, i would like to see scott take Ellisons spot because he is awful, but the coaches love this guy for some reason
by csc06258 on Oct 26, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bills D
First, I’ve given Jauron and Fewell a lot of grief about the “bend but don’t break” defense they’ve had over the past few years, but it’s done pretty well for them the last 3 games. I guess the main difference is the creation of turnovers. It’s finally nice to have some players getting in there and making some big plays, even if they are against some struggling qb’s. We’ve given up 1032 yards in the last 3 games and only 28 points in that time. Teams are running all over us but we’re finding a way to stop them before it leads to touchdowns. Sure, it’s a scary and potentially dangerous statistic, and it would be nice to give the offense a lot better field position to work with, but it’s a pretty heartening sign to see the defense being resilient.
Second, I’m not sold on Fitzy’s ability, but it’s nice to see him take some chances.
Third, probably the best kick coverage I’ve seen in quite some time. April’s boys were swarming to the ball and I have no doubt that played into the muffed punt.
Fourth, I can’t get “Surfin’ Byrd” out of my head.
Fifth, a win is a win. Does anybody expect us to look great on offense with this O-line? We’re playing how we need to in order to win.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Oct 26, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game yesterday with a bunch of family. I couldn’t believe how many Bills fans were there. It seemed like 10,000. There must have been at least 30-40 Bills fans in our section, alone. I was standing up every time the Panthers had the ball to try and rally the fans to make some noise, especially on third and fourth downs. I screamed so loud, and so often, I can barely swallow
The Panthers fans were hitting the exits early and we got to hit them with the, “Na, na , na, na, hey, hey , hey, goodbye!”
by jj24 on Oct 26, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Way to represent.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd is proving me wrong!
- I questioned the pick originally, but now admit that Byrd is exceeding my expectations. Finally, the Bills might have drafted a future Pro Bowler.
- As for the game itself, God this offense is terrible! To think that 7 games into the season, you get your first rushing T.D. – Why is it that this offense never makes any progress.
- People should ask for a refund who actually paid for a ticket for this game.
- Defense continues to keep us in games.
- I like Fitzpatrick more then Edwards so far. Give him a few more starts to see what he can do, at least they are getting Evans involved and trying to get Owens more involved – If he can catch the ball.
- T.O. must stand for ticked-off. What an ego-maniac this guy is. When Evans scored, I never saw Ticked Off approach him. Must have been texting the Pointer Sisters!
by BuffaloWhiner on Oct 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Evans scored, I never saw Ticked Off approach him.
How many guys did approach him? Did Roscoe or Steve Johnson or Justin Jenkins run up and high five him? I just think people are blowing this T.O. stuff up a little.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone mentioned 4th and 1 stops
The Bills are surprisingly very very good at these they must practice that often because teams seem to have trouble converting that (however 4th and longer they often DO convert)
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