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I'm Still Not Giving Up

With the majority of articles lately talking about next year and firing, well just about everyone, and how the season is over and what not I thought I'd write a quick piece about why I don't think the season is over just yet.

Before I begin I would like to point out that I am not (completely) delusional. The Bills played really bad against the Dolphins. Injuries are piling up and confidence has seemed to disappear. That makes a turnaround much less likely. I know that things look pretty bad right now.

At the same time, it isn't as though we've been losing to terrible teams. The Patriots are super bowl contenders until Brady retires. The saints are undefeated (early as it may be) and look pretty damn good so far. The Dolphins are only 1-3 but I think they were in a boat similar to us having played some pretty tough teams (Indy, Atlanta, SD) and their record probably wasn't a great indication of how good they are. On top of that, we played two of those games away and nearly won one of them. Now I'm not going to try to make excuses for how poorly we played this past Sunday, but as bad as we have played there is no reason why we couldn't play better. I still believe that confidence comes and goes quickly - one really good game could be enough to set us back on track.

I get the impression that most of you believe this team is better then it is currently playing (otherwise I'm not sure why firing a coach would help) and I believe that too. At the same time, I think the beginning of our schedule was really tough. In the next four games we play three very beatable teams (Browns 0-4, Panthers 0-3, Texans 2-2). Now the same argument made for Miami (that their record didn't belie their talent) could be made for the Panthers and the Texans have a better record then we do so if we can make it out of the first half of the season at .500 I would say there is still reason for optimism. Especially considering after the bye week we might be getting a nice boost in the form of returning players from the injury list (namely Poz).

So I know many (maybe most?) of you are going to disagree with some of this (all of this?) - but I say lets just give them a few more games. After all, we're Bills fans, waiting for a team to turn it around is in our blood, what else are we going to do?

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Me Neither

I agree Temson, and I’m definitely disappointed with how much I have been reading that Trent needs to be replaced. I was as disgusted as anyone after Sunday, but I’m disappointed with how much I’ve been reading that Trent needs to be replaced. Very bad performance, but trying to run a No-huddle with a new O-Line for a young QB is a challenge in itself (Yes I know that doesn’t excuse some of his horrible passes and poor decision making).

I guess my point is I think it is too early to be writing off Trent Edwards in addition to the season.

by TJJ on Oct 6, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been supporting Trent since day 1.

That game last Sunday finally tipped me over the edge, he’s become a bust to me until further notice.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Oct 8, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

I said in a previous post I still think they can finish at 9-7. However, if they get blown out by Cleveland like they did Miami, I’m not going to have much optimism left to give.

Hey, everybody said I was crazy to start Eli Manning over Drew Brees in week 3.

by Buffalo Mo on Oct 6, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I just am finding it harder and harder to believe in this team this season. That loss was brutal to even watch. Brutal. Losing to bad teams is a sign of poor coaching. Like the Browns and 49ers last year. Good teams punish lesser teams on a consistent basis because their coach has them ready to play. I want to Billieve, it’s just getting difficult to do so these days

"Potential just means you haven’t done sh## yet"

by willgarr15 on Oct 6, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t agree. The reason I don’t agree is because we have shown the same weaknesses and ineptitude, allbeit in different ways, but we are very weak on offense and at the QB position, and in turn, any positives from the defense are being nullified by the poor offensive game.

I would like to see a turn around, but the problem with that, is for the long term health of the team, every person on this staff needs to be entirely cleaned out. Even when Jauron came in, we still left guys from the previous Donahoe regime in the front office and to me, we need a complete house cleaning. So, I am looking for some positive performances, but I would rather know Jauron is out of here. I am very down on his coaching and his team.

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 6, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure what you mean when you say we’re showing the same weaknesses in different ways.

In any case, I’ve yet to hear a suggestion for something better then remaining as positive as possible. Writing about how the coach should be fired, or should have been fired, doesn’t really interest me.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right, we are showing the same weaknesses in the same ways. But you have to admit, the coach does have to be fired. The schedule being tough is no excuse. We have to beat the good teams in order to be good…if not, we are bad, and that is what we have.

I want to win the rest of the games…I love the Bills, but I am sick and tired of the same old crappy offense and crappy coach. It is difficult to care

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, I think you can be a good team that still loses to teams that are the best – and right now I really think the Saints are one of the best and the Patriots are pretty high up there too. That’s why I say wait until after we play the Panthers, Texans, etc. – those are decent teams and if we beat them we look like a pretty decent team too. I know that a tough schedule is a poor excuse but it’s only been 4 games, I just don’t think that’s a big enough set of data.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe so

but to me, its been three seasons plus 4 games…and I’ll go with you that there is alot of football left to salvage, so….I guess your right. Let’s go at’em….but we’re just fans, the players (especially on offense) have to go out and do it

Good Luck With Your Firings Mr. Wilson….Go Bills!

by killascript on Oct 6, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, I think you can be a good team that still loses to teams that are the best

Maybe, but 2-24 against winning teams is beyond pathetic. Good teams find some ways to beat other good teams sometimes. If they can’t, then it’s obvious that they aren’t very good.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 6, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2-24 since when?

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My fault

2-23, including this year’s Pats and Saints losses, against teams that finished with winning records during Jauron’s tenure.

2006: 1-7 against winning teams
2007: 1-7 against winning teams
2008: 0-7 against winning teams
2009: 0-2 against winning teams

A good team doesn’t have that kind of record.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 7, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i can feel my optimism draining away after reading stats like that.

That is the sign of a very badly run team,

But it does seem that we are therefore very good at beating rubbish teams :-)

The past is fixed, the future is unknown, try dealing with the present!

by gregeng on Oct 7, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006: 1-7 against winning teams
2007: 1-7 against winning teams
2008: 0-7 against winning teams
2009: 0-2 against winning teams

A good team doesn’t have that kind of record.

hahahahahahahahaha

what a joke

I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
Trent Edwards - Backup QB until furthur notice. Care to prove me wrong Trent?

by J2 on Oct 7, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That right there K, that’s internet puke.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 7, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great fan post Temson

I am in complete agreement. We looked like a pretty good team before injuries ravaged us after week 2. We’ve hit the injury bug and we’ve hit it in a bad way. In my opinion, the biggest problem I have with the management of this team was that it appears that they were dead wrong in their judgement of how to move forward with the offensive line. Our losing ways begin and end there. We can’t get the ball to our receivers, our QB takes sacks on important downs and releases the ball to his running backs way too often, our defense wears down late in games… all of these are symptoms of an offensive line that is singlehandedly bringing down a promising season. Blame Trent all you want but our offensive line is the worst in football hands down. You will not win. Which is why I propose signing a replacement for Butler immediately, getting Bell back in action and getting this season on track. We are a good team playing with a league worst o-line. Lets start fixing the problem. I still think we can win a lot of games.

We got your back Leodis!

by poz on Oct 6, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Goals

I guess it depends on your goal, if winning some games is your goal then there is reason for optimism, but if playoffs is your goal I think we have proved that will not happen. Lets face it they will lose more than 3-4 more games, it is all a matter of perspective.

So if playoffs or hope of playoffs next year is your goal then I would have to say clean house if for no other reason than to show the loyal fans that you do care. It is starting to seem to me, and I’m sure many others, that as long as fans sell out why would they bother to spend more money to put a better product on the field?

by guruu on Oct 6, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We will probably lose more than 3-4 more games, but not definitely. If we pick up some momentum, get some injured players back, and play well at home I could see us surprising some people. That’s the point – it’s early enough in the season that things could still get turned around.

I’m certainly not saying it’s going to happen, it’s likely, or even that I expect it to – but we could have a winning season, and that would be improvement, especially considering we’ve had some tough breaks already (a close loss, injuries, etc.). I know that sounds like just more excuses, but that doesn’t make them untrue. I think improvement has to be the goal, from there, we’ll see.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admire your optimism and I wish I could share it, I see you defend your argument and I was there once. Slowly but surely this team is losing it’s devoted followers and it’s optimistic fans. How many seasons like this can even you take before you join the ever growing ranks of people that have given up?

by guruu on Oct 6, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slowly but surely this team is losing it’s devoted followers and it’s optimistic fans.

The Bills are still better off now than they were in the 70s when we went 0-decade against the Dolphins.

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by MattRichWarren on Oct 10, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, I consider it an anomaly that we’ve had so many 7-9 seasons recently. But in my lifetime I expect the Bills to be both much better and much worse then they are now. I’m not going to “give up” on them though – if you only root for teams that are good you aren’t really a fan at all (and you’ll have to change your allegiances every couple of years).

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 10, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can make the playoffs. We’ve been hit hard by injury but if we can bounce back from that we can certainly make a run. We had a tough first quarter schedule. We won the game we were supposed to against the Bucs lost to the two hardest teams, one of which if not for a fluke we would be 2-2, and we got schooled by the Dolphins with have our starters out. I’m still reserving judgement in terms of giving up.

We got your back Leodis!

by poz on Oct 6, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good for you Temson. I’m now completely ready to give up on the playoffs; however, I’m not ready to give up on this team and most of the roster. I still expect to see some good football games from this team even if it results in another 7-9 type season and a house cleaning in January.

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by kaisertown on Oct 6, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It really is hard

You invest so much time and energy emotionally into this team and then they go out and look like a high school football team.

There really is a lot of talent on this team but they need better direction. Last night watching the Packers game it was exciting as anything. BIG plays, both teams looked like they knew what they were doing.

I want them to be good so so so badly. Not for me, but for Buffalo, for the players on the team

I have not and will not give up on this team, but i must pull away a little. After the Pats game and after this last game against the Fins i felt sick. I want to pout like a child, look to the sky and ask why? After the Pats game i felt like i was on candid camera or some type of punked episode where they aim to crush the hopes and dreams of an un expecting fan.

Things will get better and many of the pieces already have, but they need to be put together correctly not just mashed together with the hopes that it will magically work out

"Hold ya chin up...nuh nuh nuh...gone" -Marshawn Lynch-

by billsoferie on Oct 6, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its not the most dont agree, its just the same old buffalo team, the lions COULD win 10 in a row. anythings possible, most of us just felt that this was a year we proved we could do big things, and for us to be getting mentioned with the rams and raiders, its just the complete opposite of what most of us thought. not to mention its where we usually are lol. ive sounded like you plenty of times, but after years of that attitude it just gets old after awhile. i wish for one year no questions asked we’d be a top team

how much longer will the abuse last?

by buffalo bennie28 on Oct 6, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well if we’re mentioned with the Raiders and Rams now we’d be mentioned with the Bengals and Falcons later IF we won 4 of the next 5, which is not completely impossible. The combined records of our next 5 opponents (0-4, 3-1, 0-3, 2-2, 0-4, 2-2) is 7-16.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we win 4 of our next 5 we're 5-4 with no quality wins

I don’t think we’re considered “for real” even then…

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 6, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said anything about being “for real” – just who we’d be mentioned with, decent teams.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

three main reasons for my pessimism

1. This is not the same team that took the field opening day. I don’t mean they feel different, i mean they don’t have the same tackles, the same safeties, etc etc. The injuries that have happened to this team are extremely unfortunate.

2. Trent Edwards has reverted to Mr. Hyde. He is a complete mystery to me. If I didn’t have 20 pgs of writing due in the next 48 hours for school I’d write a fanpost about it, but I just don’t understand how he can look so good sometimes and so absolutely clueless other times.

3. We’re worse than the Jets, we’re worse than the Dolphins. Yes we should have beaten the Pats, but they’ve gotten better and better since then and we’ve gotten worse and worse. Brady is no longer the sad maimed hobo who played against us, he’s Brady. The Bills aren’t the same confident young team that took the field that monday, they are a wounded shell of a corpse of a wisp of that team, and Edwards at least is playing like he knows it.

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 6, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

addendum to 3.

we might be better than the next few teams we play, but it doesn’t matter if we’re the worst team in our division.

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 6, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We lost two divisional games on the road – teams are expected to protect their own turf. If we start playing better there is no reason we couldn’t win a couple divisional games, that’s all I’m saying. It may not be enough for the playoffs, but I’m looking for improvement.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely agree that we will see improvement

its depressing to be at a point this early in the season where we’re already going “well I don’t think we’re one of the worst 5 teams in the league. We can turn it around!” – not a dig at your fanpost at all, which is welltaken, just a sad place to be in collectively as a fanbase, you know?

Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!

by JPH on Oct 6, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly maintain that Oakland, Kansas City, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and St. Louis are all considerably worse than the Bills – not that that is worth anything but just saying.

Our record may be on par with Detroit’s but I don’t think our talent is and by the bye week our record should hopefully reflect that. It’s sad that I had to add “hopefully” into that last sentence, if we lose more then two more games before the bye week… I don’t want to think about it.

Honestly though, it could be worse. Miami is also 1-3, has a mediocre QB, and even though they stomped us they have a much more difficult schedule ahead of them then we do.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ill add

Washington to that list

We got your back Leodis!

by poz on Oct 6, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TEMSON: no offense but to say it could be worse because Miami is also 1-3 (they WERE 0-3) and they have a mediocre QB seems a tough argument here.

I’d wonder what a poll would show if people were asked to rate Trent as above average, average, mediocre, or “Losman’s understudy.”

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 7, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine, take out the mediocre QB thing if you want – the main point I was trying to make is that we have an easier schedule then they do.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 7, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Allow me to clarify further. Imagine if we were in the position we’re currently in – but still had to play Pittsburgh, New Orleans, etc. instead of the Browns, Chiefs, etc.

I guess the argument doesn’t work if you’re hoping we finish 1-15, but I want us to win as many games as possible, not as few.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 7, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hate how listless we’ve looked in damn near every phase of the game. There’s no team-wide intensity. We’ve gotten decimated by injuries before and we’ve at least continued to play respectable football with considerably less talent on both sides of the ball. It looked like half the team didn’t even want to be there last week. It made me sick to my stomach. This team has plenty of talent (when relatively healthy), but with Jauron at the helm they lack any sort of identity whatsoever.

I think Jauron’s lack of intensity and emotion during games comes across in more of a deer in headlights light rather than stoicism in the face of adversity. I think the no-huddle is a great idea given the fat nose tackles in our division, and the benefits of it were evident on MNF. However, by failing to bring in a capable veteran backup for depth at tackle, this offense will continue to be dysfunctional and putrid. I would feel so much better if they signed Runyan or Levi Brown to play at RT or at least serve as the swing tackle. I can’t believe how poorly Chambers played last week.

It’s just very hard to be optimistic. At this point, unless we rattle off ten in a row miraculously, it’s playoffs or bust for me. If we don’t make the playoffs then we might as well have a higher draft position next year to be in a position to take a QB or at least be in a coveted position in the draft to trade down. There needs to be a fundamental shift in organizational philosophy and mentality and that’s only going to come via F.O./Coaching change. Jauron’s the lamest duck in the NFL right now. Even McDaniels is 4-0. That’s remarkable regardless of how they got there. I want to see the young guys get some time and see us play with more intensity down the stretch, but without our starting 5 OL intact, our no-huddle is going to be stuck in the mud.

by live6453 on Oct 6, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm NOT with you

I think we had a little go at it in the begining of the season when I told you this team is not going anywhere. This team ‘does" have talent, but with Dick Jauron as the head coach this team is not going anywhere. We need a new O-line and Q.B along with a new coach before we will ever be good again. Its simple, we haven’t replaced Kelly or Levy yet and look, we don’t have any playoffs for 10 years.

by csc06258 on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I’m well aware that you’re NOT with me. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree I guess.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 6, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha good point

by csc06258 on Oct 7, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolute best we'll finish

is 8-8, and that is being generous. To be completely honest I would rather win half that amount of games and grab an excellent draft pick rather than “have some momentum going into next year.” As a matter of fact, what the &$# does “momentum into next year” even mean? I’ll tell you what it means, absolutely nothing because I’ve been hearing it every year for the last 3 or 4 years. Actually, considering our front office, even with a high draft pick I’m sure we would take the worst possible option, someone who never lives up to expectations.

I apologize if this sounds like psychobabble but everyone needs to vent. I mean this is ridiculous. I realize that we have been unfortunate with injuries, but come on, a better coaching staff would develop strategy to the strengths of the team, draw up some new stuff for the next game, and abandon the no huddle. I’m not giving up on Trent because I believe a QB can progress and gain confidence as the year goes on but I’m over Jauron. The Bills are, quite possibly, the worst organization in the NFL at hiring head coaches except for Al Davis who hires guys like Tom Cable who punch people in the face.

You would think that in 10 years we could get our &%$# together by one fluke of a year, make the playoffs and make a push but I suppose that is the way the cookie crumbles.

Don’t get me wrong, I totally have not jumped ship on this season yet. I will be in the stands for every homegame rooting for our Bills but it just gets harder and harder, game by game, year by year. This has all the makings of a 3 or 4 win season and I am tempted to give up hope sooner than later rather than feel that all to familiar hollow feeling in January.

by uscBillsGamecock on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8-8

if the Bills go 8-8 they will feel they are doing something right and no changes will be made. I do agree though rather than just miss the playoffs I would rather go 1-15 and get that draft pick provided that the front office in their infinite wisdom don’t trade it away for junk. Which I definitely see them doing considering their cheap ways and the salary high draft picks are demanding.

Sounds like a no win situation, you get what you pay for, the Bills would rather overpay for mediocrity than pay fair money for skill.

by guruu on Oct 7, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god i hope they don’t go 8-8, that might be enough to keep Dick

by csc06258 on Oct 7, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything short of the playoffs is unacceptable

We should have depth, talent and desire…we have none. This is all on the coach and owner for not setting up a winning organization – like we had with Butler and Polian. It’s like hiring the neighbor kid to landscape your yard, then complaining that it’s not a professional job. I’ll enjoy the tailgating and the dinner parties during away games. I refuse to expect anything out of Dick Mauron except lousy coaching, to expect more is refusing to see reality.

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by TatonkaDonk on Oct 6, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

have to pay good money for a good coaching staff and be willing to shell out the cash for the players, all things Ralph is notorious for not doing

by guruu on Oct 7, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean no disrespect TEMSON

But I am so sick of this line:

“At the same time, it isn’t as though we’ve been losing to terrible teams”

…or other excuses like it. As K pointed out above, our record against the good teams is horrendous. All of this “playing hard against the elite” & “well, we almost beat the _” means nothing in my mind. We have to win some of those game. The Bills are bullies — we beat up the weak; run from strong. Hell even the weak are starting gang up on the bully.

I’m also tired of the injury excuse. EVERY team has injuries. The only thing the injuries show (in my mind) is lack of depth.

Also, I think that we have a good chance of going 0-3 heading into the bye & I think Oakland & maybe Washington could beat us as well. IF we keep playing like we are

But, I do agree with your the title. I’ll never give up on the Buffalo Bills brand. That’s my squad. But I have given up on quite a few members of the Buffalo Bills Organization as a whole

"9/27/09 Orchard Park, NY. 4th & 1, Bills 29 yard line. Down by 10 with 7+ minutes to play in the 4th quarter. DJ elects to punt" -- The exact moment in time Dick Jauron finally lost his team...

by MonStarr_716 on Oct 7, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s only been 4 games and it’s not as though winning is easy or there is a simple formula for success. If there were, there wouldn’t be any mediocre or flat out bad teams.

"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy

by TEMSON on Oct 7, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize

and thanks to BuffaloSportsDailydotcom for this, but that the Bills were the FIRST team ever to start a season 4-0 and end up dead last in their division.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 7, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I write for that site. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Oct 7, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t know if they just published your articles from here on their site, or if you also write for them. That’s cool.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 7, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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To cheer, or not to cheer
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Draft confusion (and a poem! :D)
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Any relevent feedback would be nice
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some thoughts
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To be or Not to be?

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