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Democrat and Chronicle | Three-Point Stance | Sal Maiorana
"What is firing Jauron gonna do, other than create the illusion that the Bills are trying to do something to win? Because honestly, they’re not going to win any more than they are right now. If the Bills were to fire Jauron before the end of the season, the only way it makes any sense is if they go outside the organization and bring in a big-name replacement. No interim coach. Go get the guy who is going to be the long-term answer and then give him the rest of the season to evaluate these players in live game situations, which is the only way to do it."

Bills can't get handle on ball control : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
An offense's job is to score points. Failing that, it should at least control the ball long enough to give its defense a chance to rest. The Buffalo Bills are having a hard time doing either.

Twitter / WGR's Nicholas Mendola
"I love that my favorite football team is essentially replacing an undrafted starting LB with another undrafted starting LB."

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NFL rookie holdouts: Two who succeeded, two who didn't - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
SC examines four historic rookie holdouts including the one that forced the Colts to trade the rights to Cornelius Bennett to the Buffalo Bills.

Bills' Fewell revisits sorry run defense | Democrat and Chronicle
The Bills' run defense has come under fire, so they have made a change at linebacker.

Bills, Browns share more than Lake Erie - AFC East - ESPN
Tim Graham says the Browns and Bills have done a lot of things similarly since their last encounter on Monday Night Football.

Bills notebook: Keeping Cribbs in check will be a challenge : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
"He's one of the league's top returners," Wilson said, "so this is an opportunity for us to showcase how good we really are in our coverage teams."

Question Mark: Good teams have the depth to cope with injuries : Buffalo Bills : The Buffalo News
Buffalo News reporter Mark Gaughan answers questions on training camp, Fred Jackson in Sioux City, timeout strategy, and Kenny Stabler's Hall of Fame candidacy.

No-huddle offense makes no sense for Buffalo Bills | democratandchronicle.com | Democrat and Chronicle
Bills' no-huddle offense just makes things harder on struggling quarterback Trent Edwards.

Scout.com: NFL Team Rankings-Week Five
20) Buffalo Bills: The injuries on the offensive line are a major problem. The defense has some injuries which are preventing consistency. Last Ranking: 18 (BTW - he has us ranked ahead of the Dolphins... WTH?)

Video: AFC East Blogger's Blitz - AFC East - ESPN
AFC East blogger Tim Graham discusses the hot topics in the division.

PFT’s Picks: Big wins coming for Pats, Panthers - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com
The guys pick Bills over the Browns, 20-17.

WBEN NewsRadio 930 - Former Bill In Court To Answer Harassment Charges
Eric Moulds is accused of harassment following a domestic incident with his ex-girlfriend at his Amherst home last month.

Mike and Chuck Make Sense of the Bills - 13WHAM.com - Rochester News, Weather, and Sports
In this week's Bills Video Blog, Chuck Wade tells us how he knows the Bills are struggling, Mike Catalana gets some fan mail, and the guys try to figure out how the Bills can beat the Browns!

Move the Sticks " SCOUT SCHOOL: WHAT SCOUTS FOCUS ON WHEN THEY EVALUATE OFFENSIVE LINEMAN
MoveTheSticks.com is operated by former Ravens and Browns scout Daniel Jeremiah. He has six years of NFL scouting experience. Here he discusses what scouts look for in offensive linemen. Not about the Bills but a good read.

The J.P. Losman era begins—again : Buffalo Sports Daily
Losman started for the UFL's Las Vegas Locomotives last night.

Las Vegas Locomotives win inaugural UFL game - Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009 | 11:30 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun
"Las Vegas quarterback J.P. Losman, the UFL’s marquee player, picked apart the California defense for 226 yards and two touchdowns on 21-for-31 passing, and the game was close throughout."

Niagara Gazette - BILLS: Denney honors mom by wearing pink
John Wawrow of the AP discusses Ryan Denney's tribute to his mother and the NFL's "Crucial Catch" campaign to promote breast cancer awareness.

An Updated Look at the Browns' Receiver Situation - Dawgs By Nature
The SBN Browns blog looks at the wide receiver situation in Cleveland now that Braylon Edwards is gone and Chansi Stuckey is in.

Tough start for Mangini in Cleveland | Olean Times Herald
Cleveland coach Eric Mangini, who brings his 0-4 team into Ralph Wilson Stadium on Sunday afternoon, was downright pleasant in yesterday’s conference call to the Bills’ media. Chuck Pollack elaborates.

Roski's group plans to target teams in February | ProFootballTalk.com
The Bills are once again on the list. Stay healthy Ralph Wilson.

If Byrd can’t go – Inside The Bills
If he can’t get through the whole game Sunday the coaching staff would move George Wilson to free safety and rookie Nic Harris would come on the field at strong safety.

T.O. on interaction with Van Pelt – Inside The Bills
Terrell Owens has had conversations with offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt.

Kelsay calls Sunday a ‘must win’ – Inside The Bills
No one asked Kelsay if it was a must win this week. In fact the comment was on the tail end of an answer to a question about Browns QB Derek Anderson. So it was a clear attempt to get his team’s attention through the media.

Edwards on showing emotion – Inside The Bills
Bills QB Trent Edwards was asked about his on field demeanor and if he thinks he should show more emotion out on the field. Here was his response.

BillBoard: Hey Cleveland, it's so on!
The Bills, their fans and the city are getting ripped this week by a radio talk show host from Cleveland. Bob Frantz uploaded his rant to YouTube so that the rest of America could enjoy his rapier wit.

NFL Power Rankings: Week 5 -- NFL FanHouse
Remember back in Week 1 when Buffalo handed away a game to the Patriots? This Bills team barely resembles that fiesty squad. In the last two weeks, New Orleans and Miami have taken Buffalo behind the woodshed. Ranking - 23; Last week - 18

Bills Tweets
Twitter / WGR's Nicholas Mendola

I love that my favorite football team is essentially replacing an undrafted starting LB with another undrafted starting LB. #Bills

Twitter / Rochester D&C's Sal Maiorana
Trent Edwards said - as he always says - the Bills had another "great day" at practice Wed. It'd be nice if that carried over on Sundays

Twitter / Rochester D&C's Sal Maiorana
BIlls DC Perry Fewell on run defense woes last 2 wks: "I don't think 470 yards is an embarrassment as much as getting your butts kicked,"

Twitter / Thurman Thomas
RT @pthomas3434: Freddy Jackson is in beastmode, let him loose, shoot him right out of cannon and let him explode on the field! U tell em

Twitter / Thurman Thomas
RT @pthomas3434: Let Freddy run, catch, block and knit ur grandmother a sweater if he has time, just let him go!

Twitter / ESPN.com's Adam Schefter
Only Ralph Wilson knows, but he's thinking. RT @gwetzlr: @Adam_Schefter How many more humiliating loses for Bills before Jauron is fired?

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Sal made two great quotes:

They love culling the waiver wire for other team’s rejects. They also must lead the league in practice squad maneuvers. Have you ever seen a team pay more attention to the guys’ who matter the least on the team?

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If the Bills were to fire Jauron before the end of the season, the only way it makes any sense is if they go outside the organization and bring in a big-name replacement. No interim coach. Go get the guy who is going to be the long-term answer and then give him the rest of the season to evaluate these players in live game situations, which is the only way to do it. Then he can make some informed decisions in the offseason concerning who is good enough to keep, and who needs to be replaced.
Could not have said it better myself…wait a minute, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying for a few weeks now!

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then in the Chronicle..
Mitchell likes that Fewell has turned to him to try and get the defense back on track. “I feel it’s a natural position for me,” said Mitchell. "I enjoy making the calls and making the checks and all that. I’m excited about it and it’s not going to be that difficult of a move.

I think Mitchell will be very good at Mike, might even be an improvement over POZ. I’d love to see Mitchell do well so that Poz could be switched to SAM when he returns. I’ve always believed that Mitchell was too big & slow to play the weakside and that POZ would be better at the SAM.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Sal read Rumblings? Or are the points we raise just so blindingly obvious that everyone realizes them?

Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner

by Ron From NM on Oct 9, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sal reads Rumblings.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott

by Brian Galliford on Oct 9, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a call this morning from the Bills

To see how I was enjoying my season ticket experience…

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL – yeah, seriously. What a terrible job right now.

Buffalo Rumblings. On Twitter.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. --Wayne Grezky" --Michael Scott

by Brian Galliford on Oct 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My comments weren’t directed at him and he understood that.

The very unfortunate reality is that I’ve notice over the past few years a solid increase in fights at the games, which I think is a direct result of the level of frustration that is reaching it’s peak! I bring customers to the games and they really don’t like that part of the ambiance, it’s a shame.

Something needs to be done, Ralph needs to step up to the plate – The fans have done their part, now the ball is in Ralph’s court.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Vikes fan and a Packers fan got into a fight

in a sports bar after the Vikes game. One stabbed the other in the stomach :-(

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 9, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe, I don’t care about Vike & packer fans. We are getting frustrated and you can see the escallation from year to year, something needs to be done.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point is that stupid people do stupid things

you don’t need to have a losing team for that to happen

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 10, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was over Brett Favre!!!

not the Packers vs Vikings!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 11, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding. Because the few times i’ve mentioned he should place the site as a Bills link on his blog seemed to have gone unnoticed. At least he took off the link for realfootball365.

Twitter: helping to make anti-social people anti-socially social.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Gaughan says
A team can control the quality of its depth. Having undrafted, undersized Marcus Buggs as the backup middle linebacker is an example of poor roster management by the Bills’ front office and coaching staff.

This is Sooooooooooo true. I am trying real hard not to blame you know who but our HC does in fact have the last say on these type of decisions, so…

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s the third option at MLB behind Poz and Digi. How many teams have three quality MLBs? Mitchell or Ellison should have moved over from the start.

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Ignoring the grumblings on Rumblings.

by MattRichWarren on Oct 10, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great comment on our no-huddle

Leo Roth says:

The version of the no-huddle these current Bills run is no thoroughbred, though. It’s more like a donkey, plodding along with blinders on at a painfully unproductive pace during the team’s 1-3 start. The pace of this no-huddle is so slow that paint has been clocked drying faster.
Great quote!

I don’t necessarily agree with it. I think the no huddle that we run is not necessarily designed for speed, it’s designed to control the opposing defense to the extent that they could potentially get caught off balance. It gives them something to think about because it certainly ain’t our offensive firepower that will force them into some late night film cramming sessions.

There are a few reasons why I think they adopted this:
(a) to control TO. By no huddling, they eliminate the opportunity for TO to bitch in the huddle and distract the QB
(b) They think that they can control the pace of the game
© they feel that they can catch the Defense with their pants down.

So far the no huddle is clearly not working for points b & c. I would think that it is working for point a
But in the end, This team looks so out-of-synch that I have to wonder if the poor communication on the line (a known downside of the no huddle) is the main contributing factor? I think the no huddle is doing more damage that good.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Las Vegas won their first game

Maybe we should lobby for Fassel/Losman? I’m just joking but I anticipate that someone will suggest it at some point.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me?

or were both teams basically baby blue & white? There are so few teams in this league that they cannot agree on using different colored jerseys? WOW! Looser, big time!

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was a team scrimage with the defense wearing the green vaiants. You know who’s uniforms would fit in well with that league? The Bills’.

Twitter: helping to make anti-social people anti-socially social.

by TheAfghanTwilight on Oct 9, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keysh67

Are you having a conversation with yourself?

by TJJ on Oct 9, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

looks that way

At least I ain’t arguing with myself

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have beaten to death a horse before,

but I am staring to think we may have killed the whole herd.

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s pitiful, it might drive me to drinking…more.

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And another reason to the Fire Jauron list

Fresh horse to whip :-)

Poor ball security leads to very painful outcomes

by Joe P. on Oct 9, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I love that my favorite football team went from an undrafted LB to another undrafted LB”

How about that undrafted running back who’s fourth in the NFL in rushing? Or that undrafted LT we sent to the Pro Bowl twice? You know, cause undrafted players, they never pan out.

Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged

by Dyl on Oct 9, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are we gold diggers or a football team? Instead of being concerned about the superstars (in the first 3 rounds) that can bring us to the playoffs we are really active with the later rounds guys and the undrafted guys, looking for diamonds in the rough… Our priorities are wrong…

Either believe in your team or don’t coach it
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Oct 9, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d hardly say that, we’ve traded up three times since 2004 to get back into the 1st round (or Round 2, pick 2 for Poz). If we were digging, we’d have traded down.

Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged

by Dyl on Oct 10, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trading up is such a dumb thing to do

unless you are getting a franchise QB. Giving up top 100 picks during the rebuilding process doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. It also hasn’t worked out for Buffalo, either…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Oct 11, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a great quote and valid. Our UDFA players you reference weren’t doing that great stuff in their first (Palmer) or second (Buggs) year in the league. :-)

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Ignoring the grumblings on Rumblings.

by MattRichWarren on Oct 10, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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