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Bills lose another late lead, drop Fewell's debut

I'm not sure that the term "fourth quarter collapse" accurately describes this game - at least in the sense that the Bills didn't roll over and die like mortally wounded animals, as they did in their previous two games - but Perry Fewell's debut as interim head coach of the Buffalo Bills was marred by yet another lost lead in the fourth quarter. Mike Sims-Walker caught a short touchdown pass from David Garrard with less than a minute remaining, and Buffalo's last-gasp attempt fell short, giving the Jacksonville Jaguars an 18-15 win.

Fewell can at least be partially blamed for the loss. Buffalo was forced to settle for a field goal at the end of the first half after some terrible clock management took valuable time off the clock, preventing the Bills from taking a shot at a touchdown. Those lost points proved decisive in the loss. The Bills trailed 10-9 at halftime.

The defense came to play once again; the much-maligned run defense held Maurice Jones-Drew to just 66 rushing yards on 25 attempts, and the Bills held an opponent under 100 rushing yards for the first time since their Week 2 victory over Tampa Bay. But as has been the case all season, the defense couldn't get off the field in critical situations (and got little help from the offense yet again), allowing the Jaguars to hold the ball for well over 20 minutes in the second half.

Terrell Owens was a huge factor for the Bills, catching 9 passes for 197 yards, including a 98-yard touchdown reception on the Bills' first play of the second half. But completely lacking a running game (Buffalo ran for 53 yards), as well as some errant throws from quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick and two untimely turnovers, sealed Buffalo's fate. The offense, despite gaining nearly 350 yards, let the defense down once again in the second half.

The Bills also had two touchdowns - a bomb to Lee Evans and a sweep by Fred Jackson - nullified by penalties. You're not going to win too often when you take points off the board three separate times; unfortunately, that's exactly what happened in Fewell's not-boring debut.

Buffalo lost guard Eric Wood to a devastating lower left leg injury on the day; expect the prognosis on him to be bad. Marshawn Lynch was also carted off the field with a shoulder injury.

The Bills is now 3-7 on the season. Their next game is a week from today against the 5-5 Miami Dolphins at Ralph Wilson Stadium.

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They played hard. Very hard. But the key to me was them going 3 and out after Jax fumbled in the 4th.

T.O. looked good I guess…

by Michael_Necci on Nov 22, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

I wish I could take some solice from this loss...........

but let me be the first to say in this thread…………Cant wait for Brohm to get some time on the field…….maybe the last 3 weeks or so he’ll be ready to play.

Might as well see what we got with him.

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

I think my jaw might detach itself entirely from my skull if Brohm played at all this season.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 22, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 22, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I read that...........

it just doesnt seem like to me that wouldnt want to see what they have with him this year.

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Will you provide pictures?

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Kansas City win creates a big showdown between the Bills and Chiefs later on in December. Kansas City win could mean top 5 draft pick for the Bills.

With our OL problems now, I’d be surprised if we win another game.

by kilowatt44 on Nov 22, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

We could easily lose out

NOT saying I’m looking forward to it, or that it’s a good thing, but a top 5 draft spot is looking more and more probable.

by Applsoss on Nov 22, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's see....

Play hard.
Sustain multiple injuries.
Fall apart in the 4th.
Sounds familiar.

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by Ron From NM on Nov 22, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

I'd put the clock mismanagement more on Fitz than Fewell.

He had no idea how much time was left, I’m not sure he ever even looked up at the clock. Everyone was standing around with their thumbs up their bums. The QB has to be getting the team to the line and ready.

by twoeightnine on Nov 22, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

1+

Unbelievably, he acted like he had no idea the clock was running out. It doesn’t make sense.

by ccthemovieman on Nov 22, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he needs more practice.

Yeah, the qb needs to lead but the entire O unit needs more practice together. I’d love to see real hurry-up — things like quick snaps, fake spikes to catch the D off guard, things you see NE or Indy pull now and then. If we could only keep a line and qb together for more than a week. Alas.

by Sixteenthback on Nov 22, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Why I hope Fewell isn't with Buffalo next year

This game is the reason…bench the better QB then play hard on D all game, but let the opposing team march down the field because you decide to go soft when it counts. I’m sick to my stomach.

Keepin' the faith!

by nickdaniels on Nov 22, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

enough of this “better qb” talk. Fitz only took two sacks today, and aside from some errant (albeit very errant) throws, had a pretty darn good game.

if edwards was better, he would be playing.

by quantumuprising on Nov 22, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

REC'D REC'D REC'D

Thank you. Both QB’s are awful, there is no win-win situation for either of them.

And Fitzy had as good a game as we can expect from a Bills QB. I’ll bet we’d never see that 98 yard pass from Trent.

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by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Edwards didn’t have any issues throwing deep; he did that quite often. It was the intermediate to intermediate deep stuff he never threw. It seems he lost confidence reading defenses.

Now whether the 98 yarder would have been quite as on the mark is a different issue – who knows.

by Pistol on Nov 22, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn’t count as throwing deep when every ball is out of bounds.

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What a game

The Bills might should win it.
Andwith so many injuries; you almost did it. After what happen this week in Buffalo; I must gave credit to your team!!!!
Good luck to the remaining games. I will keep my eye on the Bills!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

What are we looking at with Wood – a broken leg (out 2-3 months)?

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 22, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

Done

He’ll be done for the year. What a shame.

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by nickdaniels on Nov 22, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

here’s the video of the Wood injury. Terrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3sxYA16Qfk

by Buffalonian on Nov 22, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully he can recover from that.

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by NolaBillsFan on Nov 22, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he can walk again normally. That could be career threatening.

by Buffalonian on Nov 22, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bills should forfeit all the rest of their games this season. At this rate, there won’t be anyone left to play next year.

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by thefourwinds on Nov 22, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It was disgusting

Players don’t come back from that

I’ll be pretty surprised if Wood plays again. Frick.

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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope it's a broken leg.

Why? The simple answer is that I thought he hurt his knee. A broken leg wouldn’t hurt his potential career nearly as much as a busted knee.

by NordicBillsfan on Nov 22, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

either way gone for the season. most knee injuries are repairable now, some can even strengthen the knee as they use stronger muscle and can even wrap the knee joint to strengthan and stabilize the knee during the repair. its a mental challenge of rehabbing and believing in the repair and getting back to work

by Ren Diggity on Nov 22, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If there’s a man on this team who will get back to work as soon as he possibly can and work harder than anyone else, it’s Wood.

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by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m very confident it’s a broken leg (as I’ve experienced it myself when I was 14).

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 22, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Usually yeah, but with a break that severe the tissue damage may be more of a challenge than the break itself and there’s always the possibility that it doesn’t set or heal correctly.

Wood is a young guy though, so that minimizes those risks. Still, he’ll be down for a long time, maybe even into next season. I wish him the best, he’s arguably our best offensive lineman and seems like a classy guy.

by Leo Crow on Nov 22, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I had the same thought. Bones heal and get back to normal. Ligaments & cartilage can be trouble.

by Pistol on Nov 22, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a fractured tibia and fibula.

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by Jason from OH-IO on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That looked like it's probably a compound fracture

do very close to it.

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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but still he played (almost) ten full games and learned a ton and will be fully ready for late mini camps. It sucks for sure, but this doesn’t at all change his role as one of the anchors of our line for the next many years

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 22, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

run game

17 rushing attempts versus 31 passes? when you have a young line and a group of guys who haven’t played together enough to develop great timing, why do we throw so many times? fitzpatrick’s accuracy is non existant much like his mechanics. he may make things happen, and can occasionally read a man to man coverage but come on. lynch goes down, and that sux, but we played 3 games without him to start the year. players get hurt, especially on this team. why stop feeding the ball to freddy when he was averaging close to 4 ypc? confusing. speaking of injuries we obviously need new strength and conditioning coaches. or at least some sort of prevention knowledge. how many knee/leg injuries can one team have?

by Ren Diggity on Nov 22, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

why do we throw so many times?

Because their rushing average was terrible. The Jaguars secondary was depleted and the best way to attack it.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 24, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Finally! A game that didn’t have me throwing stuff at the TV every other play. Even though they lost and there was some strange clock manegment at times they actually looked like a respectable team that was involved in a tight, fun game. Edwards is gone for good and I for one won’t miss him. Even though Fitz is not as accurate he actually seems to understand the importance of trying to score. He is WAY more fun too watch. When was the last time Edwards threw for 297 yards?

by bflobob8 on Nov 22, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

According to Chris Brown......

Fracture Fibula and Tibia for Wood………..y’ouch

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch indeed

could be carrer threatening.

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by Patssuck456 on Nov 22, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Leon Washington for the record experienced the very same this season (broke fibula and tibia) and he’s expected to make a full recovery. Hopefully, this will also be the case with Eric.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i broke these two bones playing rugby when i was 18, it took about six months to fully recover and i would guess a professional sportsman would get the very best treatment, so he should be good to go next season

The past is fixed, the future is unknown, try dealing with the present!

by gregeng on Nov 22, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on what? Watching Grey’s Anatomy?

by Pistol on Nov 22, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Zing!

Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.

by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Theisman!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and

he never came back! Feel bad for the kid. OL needs strong legs mroe than any position. I don’t think Theisman “elected” to retire. Met him years after and he said his leg still hurt from time to time.

by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Luckily

medicine has improved immensely since that injury. I hope Wood can make a full recovery and be back on the field next year.

~K
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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, lineman have to move a lot differently than skill players. Hopefully, it’ll be easier for Wood to come back than a skill player. Also, Joe Theismann was 36 when he retired.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 23, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It is career threatening. Depends on how badly the bones were splintered and whether any nerves were severed.

by Rick A on Nov 23, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

They are just too injured

At this point I can’t even get mad at them.

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by pasaluki on Nov 22, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

Pardon me for being sappy here

but I was really proud of the Bills today. New coach, lots of controversy, tons of injuries and they really gave it their all. It was obvious that they just didn’t have enough talent to compete. They could have laid down but they really played hard. I know that’s what they are paid to do, but you could tell they went out there with pride.

On another note: I suggest that people send “get well” messages to Eric Wood. Here he is trying to start out a solid career in the NFL and it could already be over. His injury was just devastating. He is a big man and needs his legs and it will be tough to return from that.

by RabidBuffalo on Nov 22, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Im sorry but this can be said of Jaurons ENTIRE time here in Buffalo.........
tons of injuries and they really gave it their all. It was obvious that they just didn’t have enough talent to compete

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, for this year

they seemed to quit on him. That’s how it looked to me anyway.

by RabidBuffalo on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think so.......

If you look at the last two games the team was tied or UP going into the fourth quarter…but because the defense had been on the field so long because of the inept offense……the team got blown out…….and the two weeks before that were the wins against Carolina and NYJ………..

This team never once quit on Jauron………they just didnt win for him either.

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 22, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I never thought Jauron was less than satisfactory at getting his players to play hard. He was always able to do so, which was what made him a decent coordinator and position coach. However, he just doesn’t have the ability to evaluate talent nor the ability to evaluate X’s and O’s to be a good HC in the league.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 23, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you bro......

Overmatched everywhere……. and they almost did it. Of course, we “almost” do it all the time. But you could tell the guys came to play today. Our defensive line looked like a real squad!!! So sad.
If you look at all of the guys who are on IR, and the young guys who are playing, we really have quite a squad coming back next year. A good draft…. and who knows.
But, Like Linus says on Halloween night when the Great Pumpkin fails to show…… “JUST WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR!!”

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Fewell did a good job when Jacksonville had the ball near the goal line to use timeouts to preserve the time at the end of the game. My guess is that Jauron wouldn’t have been that savvy.

Fitzpatrick played much better than I anticipated. After the first interception I thought it was going to be a long day. But he’s still prone to throws that are wildly inaccurate.

by Pistol on Nov 22, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

inaccurate

was the label Brian put on him before he ever took a snap for the Bills. How right you were.

by jpheff on Nov 22, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved when the announcers celebrated his throw to Nelson.

If Nelson doesn’t make an unbelievably athletic play that is an easy INT. He hit the defender in stride.

by twoeightnine on Nov 22, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nelson could be very good.

If he learns to block without holding. That was fun to see. Too bad he subtracted Freddy’s TD with his foolish hold. That’s why he wouldn’t be starting if we had any choice. But I loved seeing that play. Just think if we could come to expect a few plays like that per game from him.

by Sixteenthback on Nov 22, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a hold, it was a cut block below the knees on John Henderson

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 22, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct — i’d forgotten. Even worse.

by Sixteenthback on Nov 22, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call that a “good job”. I’d call it “doing what you are supposed to do”. Fewell still wasted about 10-15 seconds at this point in the game as well. I remember yelling “call timeout” at the tv when it was obvious MJD was eventually going to score from only a few yeards out. Finally, he starting calling the timeouts but they could have had another play or two on the last drive.

by Scott_P on Nov 22, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record

I was at the game today and thought it was money well spent. Certainly, the outcome wasn’t what I would have liked but I thought the team fought like hell to try and get a win. It is a damn shame we continue taking penalties at the MOST inopportune times (not that there is a good time to take penalties but they happen)….. team killers.

It is humorous however to watch the Jags fans talkin smack and bowing their chests about their Juggernaut team that had just beaten a poor Bills team playing their 11th string offensive linemen….. sure fire superbowl winners….lol

Also of note, Jacksonville is also the only stadium I have ever been to that the NFL allows them to cover up 20,000 seat and if they sell out, the game is televised…. not that is was today because in addition to the 20k normally blocked off, there was at least another 25K empty seats….. and people think Buffalo is moving their team….Jacksonville first I think

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by Jax Bills Fan on Nov 22, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Haha

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys played a very inspired game...

But, don’t start talking about you lost because you were playing your 11th string O line. Injuries happen to every team. We went through this last year when we lost 3 starters on the O line due to injuries, and another due to a cowardly act of violence. Furthermore, you were in the game the entire time!

As far as the seats are concerned…the 10,000 seats covered actually sizes the stadium to fit the market. This is a “college stadium” which the host the annual UFL vs. UGA, and the Gator Bowl. Unfortunately, they still have a problem selling out the rest of the stadium. Jacksonville seems to have more fickle fans than die hard NFL fans. Additionally, I doubt the Jags go to LA. I can see at least 2 other teams landing there before the Jags let alone the Bills. It’s not going to happen to either of our teams.

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by JagsCub on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The Jags have been in the playoffs...

Please do not take this as an attack. But here are the facts I am aware of:

You have been in the playoffs at least 7 years out of a 13 year history. The bills will be on a 10 year drought.

Stadium seating per Wikipedia says 67,164 after you apply the tarps. The bills stadium holds 73,967. You can’t tell me the tarps are to size the stadium to the market. The bills stadium is average size. You have 7,000 less seats and don’t even come close to selling out games.

I don’t understand how you can’t sell seats to a winning team? I understand the market your in with the college teams and other pro franchises nearby. But please help me understand how you dont think your team won’t move. In the end it is about making money. If your not selling out 67,000 seats to a winning team, the team will move and sell 80,000 seats in LA for almost double what a ticket costs in Jacksonville. Buffalo may be a bad team, but right now we sell our games out (with overall profits much less than other teams). The only reason buffalo appears on the moving list is due to an old owner who graces our presence with his remaining days.

7 games and counting!!!

by Rudy916 on Nov 22, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Actually, your wrong...

With Toronto, Rochester, and Buffalo, the combined total for your market is roughly 7,765,000. That is without figuring in Erie which may or may not be in your market. With Jacksonville, Orlando, Tallahassee, and Savannah Ga it is roughly 4,025,000. So, I’m just curious how you came up with Jacksonville having a bigger market?

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by JagsCub on Nov 23, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Because Toronto and Rochester are like an hour away. If you just look at Jacksonville and Buffalo, Jville is killing Blo and the difference is continuing to widen.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 24, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The original comment that was made referred to "market"

If you are talking about the city itself, the difference is not much. The city of Jacksonville is comparable to Buffalo. But, when you figure in the actual market, Buffalo is far and away a much larger market.

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by JagsCub on Nov 25, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

But how can you count it as “part of the Buffalo market” if Toronto, the largest of any of the cities you name, is 2 hours away and across an international border? The greater Toronto area has 5.5M people.

The immediate Buffalo area has 1.25M. Jacksonville has 1.3M. About the same but Buffalo is falling, Jacksonville is growing. He is wrong that Jacksonville is the bigger market… kind of. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 25, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It's no secret that many fans in and around Toronto...

follow the Bills. That’s why there has been talk of playing games there. That’s why I included them in the market, because, well, they are in your market.

Also, the other problem is that although Jax maybe growing, it’s not growing fast enough. Not being able to attract Big businesses into Jax has been a challenge, and without that type of growth it’s not going to matter.

Tallahassee, Orlando, and Savannah are all more than 2 hours away, and their populations totals are less than half of what Toronto is.

One would think that wiith over 4 million people we could sell out our stadium, but obviously not.

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by JagsCub on Nov 25, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand your rationale and yes we get Canadian fans. But when the Toronto Star prints one thing a week about the Bills I find it hard to call it part of the market. Go look right now. Not a single Bills story on their Sports homepage. http://www.thestar.com/sports They are a CFL town all the way and the Argonauts are king which is why the BIlls aren’t going to relocate there.

I do enjoy this conversation. :-) You know what you’re talking about and that’s fun.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 26, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense taken.

I don’t think the fact that other pro teams being near by is the problem. I think the problem is the fact that our fans are “fickle” which I stated above. There are no excuses for not selling out the games. The fact that we have a winning team is a misnomer. With the jobless rate in Jacksonville being at 13%, and the team having an up and down roller coaster type existence, the fans in and around Jacksonville have become uninterested. With consistency the team will begin to sell out. Until that happens there will continue to be blackouts.

There are not enough hardcore fans for the NFL game that are willing to attend. With that being said, the numbers in TV ratings consistently show that Jax is an NFL town, but the people are not willing to put their money on the line to enjoy one of the greatest entertainment values in the entire country. It cost $400 for a season ticket. With $20 parking, and one of the easiest commutes to and from a stadium in the league.

Another thing I agree with is that a team will move if it’s not financially viable to remain in a particular location. What has been largely underreported is the fact that the Raiders, Rams, Bucs, and Lions have been just as inept to sell tickets. Now you can argue that they are all teams with losing records. However, there are somethings to consider. First, is that most teams move due to stadium issues. Currently, that applies to the Raiders, 49ers, Bolts, and I think Rams. Anyone of those teams moving to LA would be great because they already have an established following on the West coast, not to mention it would not upset the apple cart when it comes having to realign the current divisions in the NFL. Second, If the Jags were to move there it would cost a fortune to break the lease in which the team is currently in. Thirdly, I believe that if they were to move it would be to London. According to Goodell, that would happen within the next 10 years.

In that time frame, with the state of the Jags franchise having their arrow pointing up, I think before the end of the season we will see a stoppage to the blackouts with momentum building to the future. I also think that with proposed games being played in Orlando as soon as next year, and the fact that the Bills with similar thinking of splitting games in Toronto, that both teams will be safe from relocation.

I say all this with genuine belief that it will get better with time in Jax, and not with teal shaded glasses. Although anything can happen.

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by JagsCub on Nov 23, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t think the fact that other pro teams being near by is the problem

it certainly isn’t helping anything

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by J2 on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

They might want to tarp an additional 25,000 seats then.

by twoeightnine on Nov 22, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That end of the first half was very Jauronesque with the bad clock management and the way nobody seemed to have an idea of what was going on. It reminded me of that Windy Pats/Bills game last year.

Fitz wasn’t bad, wasn’t good. Pretty much what I expect from him and Trent by now.

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by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

The Raiders can be tough on D.

And with a mediocre backup playing (in place of a woeful starter) they’ll have a chance in many games. They knocked off Philly in Philly, remember. They and the Chiefs are now tied with us at 3 wins.

by Sixteenthback on Nov 22, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Woods injury is not good. Not sure where we go now with the line. TO showed up that was pretty cool. Other than that just another buffalo loss.

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by bflo on Nov 22, 2009 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

First game all season I didn't follow

Just losing interest in the season now. Wake me up when we’re actually making moves in the front office.

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by Dyl on Nov 22, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

The wood injury makes me sick

not just how brutal it was but that he was a really good pick and a good kid. He will never be the same. The young talent was one thing that we had going for us.

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by billsoferie on Nov 22, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

agreed Dyl

I just wished i saw the T.O bomb live

by StuckInNJ on Nov 22, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

what we have now (and have had)

is inexperience/inability across the board. Now even at HC(Although Jauron had to go). I was impressed with Fewell’s enthusiasm and animation. But, the time management issue is a glimpse of the rest of the season. You cannot expect more from him or the team.
As for the injuries, you can only conjure up one phrase, “snake bit”. Truly unimaginable. If despair had a picture in the dictionary, it would be of a red helmet with a charging Buffalo on it.

by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

As sad as it sounds...

at least they were competitive and looked like a competent football team for most of the game. I was just happy being able to watch a competitive game where the Bills were playing pretty well. Obviously, we all knew that that game winning TD was coming. Typical Bills finish.

Glad to see TO have a great game today. It’s about time. It’s also about time that the team was really looking to get him the ball early. Hitting some 10-15 yarders over the middle and letting TO run after the catch is something that should have been a part of this offense all season. Too bad Edwards wasn’t capable of getting it done. Oh well. I’d like to see TO finish strong this season.

We saw why Whitner should not play FS for this team. When he and Wilson were in the game today, he was playing deep center and allowed a couple of big passes over the middle. He’s just so terribly slow to react to passing plays.

Kudos to the run defense for shutting Jones-Drew down. I didn’t think it could happen, but those guys came to play. Spencer Johnson, John McCargo and especially Kyle Williams were very, very good today. Even the LB’s weren’t their usually awful selves.

Only six more games until the misery is done. Do we win any? Maybe the Jets game?

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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Also

I liked Fewell for the most part today. I liked how he seemed to be in command and was really getting his players going. His gameplan to get the ball to his receivers down the field more, pressure Garrard and slow Jones-Drew was pretty good. His time management was pretty atrocious though, but as a first time HC, it is probably expected. He should improve in this area in no time.

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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the Jets game?

I was thinking maybe KC?

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by Joe P. on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

The Steelers were thinking the same thing today.

by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bills can't afford to overlook anyone

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by Joe P. on Nov 22, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Kyle williams played an amazing game. I thought he stepped up as a huge leader today.

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by bflo on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That he did. Not only that but he played it with a bad knee and shoulder. Kid’s a stud.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 24, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Only six more games until the misery is done. Do we win any? Maybe the Jets game?

I don’t think I can adequately express just how satisfied I’d be with a season sweep of Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 22, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Shouldn't that kind of satisfaction be reserved for when the Bills beat good team?

O’well……lowered expectations and all.

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by Joe P. on Nov 22, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No. I hate hate hate hate the Jets.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2009 5:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate Jets fans more than I hate the Jets themselves. Although shutting Ryan’s fat yap would be extremely satisfying.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I would cry myself to sleep with happiness.

BUT, I’ve already said I want the Bills to lose all the Toronto games just to make the idea seem even worse.

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by UZ on Nov 22, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Great point and Rec’d.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 24, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

in a sense

watching this team is like watching the moveie “300”. They give all they’ve got, but, about half way through you realize they aren’t gonna make it. A valiant effort, but, still dead.

by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

To Date

This is the history of the franchise. Thats why every year it gets a little bit worse. I feel Ralph’s pain.

Excuses are a sign of weakness!!!!!!

by VanScottM on Nov 23, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to gloat or what have you, but I haven’t watched since the Miami debacle. Just couldn’t torment myself any further this season. My wife is a GB fan so I’ve jumped on that bandwagon since Week 5. At least until the end of the year and we start getting ready for the Draft/Free Agency – then I’ll be suckered into Bills 2010!

Fortunately, I have Rumblings to get my fill of Bills scuttlebutt (thanks Brian, et al). And let me tell you, that Wood injury just kills me. I had high hopes the Bills grabbed the fourth pick in the draft, with the possibility of getting Okung at OT, but a lot of that was predicated on having the interior generally set for the coming year, and sliding Bell/Meredith over to RT. With Wood gone, I’m not sure what you do for the future re: the OL. Which just throws another variable into the mix for next season. Great.

I’m kind of hoping they tank it for the rest of the year – but they might not be able to help it anyways, given that they are losing 2-3 starters every week. As for who they beat remaining on the sked, would love for it to be the Jets (hate Rex Ryan/Sanchise already) but just don’t see it.

Saw a few highlights, and I agree with K, loved seeing Fewell pumped on the sidelines. I don’t know if it was ’Happy to be here" excited or not, but nice change of pace from the past few years, if nothing else.

BTW – I’m so cursed, the one guy I was hopeful the Bills could pick up in free agency to address a need was Kampman, and he got carted off the field too! So even (in my mind) a potentially future Bill suffered significant injury. Wonderful.

by T McGee on Nov 22, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Careful, there!

Apparently, even the thought of a player becoming a Bill is enough to risk injury.

by Sixteenthback on Nov 22, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

with Wood down

what is the conjecture for the OL for next week? At this rate, we cannot finish the season on the OL without signing someone. Is that a fair assessment?

by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Well we'll definitely bring someone in

after putting Wood on IR. Whether its a practice squad scrub or a street free agent scrub, I don’t know….

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by Kurupt on Nov 22, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

and the hits

just keep on commin’

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by fansince60 on Nov 22, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

season over. lets look at the draft

I recon the Bills should lie down and focus on getting high draft picks for next season. As we call it in Australia (tanking)

by aussie34 on Nov 22, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t look now but the Raiders have the same record as the Bills.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 23, 2009 7:23 AM EST reply actions  

We’re currently drafting at seventh place, but if we do as I expect us to do and lose the rest of the six games (the games against the Jets and Chiefs are the only ones, where I actually see us standing a chance), we’ll draft at fifth place, which should give us a very good opportunity to grab a franchise QB.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 23, 2009 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Why take a franchise QB that high with a heavy draft for QB’s. Build the OL, I don’t care who your QB is, he won’t succeed with this OL.

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by howedyhowe on Nov 23, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a very weak draft for the OL at the top. Okung is the only tackle projecting as a top 10 pick. If we took anybody else on the O=line that early, it would be considered a big-time reach.

by Dr. Brackish Okun on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t look at it that way. Just take the best player.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

What another safety?

There are a couple real good ones out there.

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by VanScottM on Nov 23, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I beg to differ on Taylor Mays.

But my point wasn’t “take the best player regardless of position,” it was merely take the best guy for your team.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d happily grab one of the top two DTs if the Bills didn’t like Sam Bradford or thought the DTs were a better value than the OTs. And I won’t have DT in my top five or six needs this offseason. Safety would be a different story.

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by kaisertown on Nov 23, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Now we need to draft OG again

that is so sad

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by billsoferie on Nov 23, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

I think a lot of you are jumping the gun on Wood. Let’s wait to hear if it’s actually career-threatening before we decide it’s career-threatening.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 23, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Although I might argue that drafting interior OL again wouldn’t be a bad idea anyway.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

B elieve me i hope he is ok

but even if he comes back im not sure if it will ever be the same

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by billsoferie on Nov 23, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No we don’t. Wood will be ready for next season.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 23, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

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