The 1st Thing Buffalo Should Do This Offseason
by ForeignArrow on Nov 23, 2009 3:06 PM EST
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is fire their training staff. I know it's football and guys get hurt... but why so many Buffalo Bills end up on IR seemingly every season? It's getting a little ridiculous... to the point where it probably isn't coincidence anymore. Maybe we need new strength and conditioning programs, new nutritionists, new endurance coaches, or all of the above... whatever. More has to be done to prevent injury to the players. Two words
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I honestly am not sure how many more times Im gonna be able to handle seeing/reading about this lol.
Its like the Richard Jauron thing all over again.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 23, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We've heard this all before
Guess what…ALL THE STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING IN THE WORLD CAN’T HELP IF A GUY LANDS ON YOUR LEG AND BREAKS BONES
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t about Wood. hat was a freak accident and nothing could have helped that. But you can’t tell me that Bell tweeking his knee couldn’t have been avoided with a better training programm that involved increased durability in muscles and flexibility training.
I can’t help but think that a lot of the little 1 and two game injuries couldn’t have been entirely avoided with a better training programm.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 27, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be so negative, he is completely right. Strength and conditioning DOES in fact improve injury prevention. Some cases are freak accidents but it is not a fluke at all that the Bills players are getting hurt every weekend. Unless you are knowledgeable about this you shouldn’t make opinions. Ask any good trainer and he’ll admit that training has a lot to do with injury prevention. (It also wouldn’t surprise me if Buffalo hires the cheapest strength and conditioning coach/training staff in the NFL).
by J.D on Nov 23, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Read that article.
Don’t blame the training staff for these injuries, last year 16 other teams had more players on IR than we did at the end of the season. This year it seems to me like most of them have been non-preventable.
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by howedyhowe on Nov 23, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my bad
http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/4212171.html
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by howedyhowe on Nov 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Bills fans think it’s only them because that’s all they care about and follow closely. The Packers lost 2 All-Pro defenders yesterday. The Steelers lost 2 QBs!
by twoeightnine on Nov 23, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not the IR injuries that can be prevented with good strength and conditioning programms though, it’s those short 2-3 game induries like the ones that Bell and Mcgee are suffering. Or the one that McGee seems to be suffering every year for that matter. A better strength and conditioning programm would reduce these injuries, of that I have no doubt.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 28, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly J.D- I don’t know it just yet (am a Med Student) but you are completely right. Some of these injuries can be prevented and some cannot. Woods was an example of one that could not be prevented. The Yankees one year fired their tranning staff after most of the team was injured for the year, the next year, there were a lot less injuries.
by csc06258 on Nov 23, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The style defense the Bills use seems to be more prone for injury. Playing fast and hitting hard.
by JJBUD on Nov 23, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In addition to using smaller players. It makes all the sense in the world.
Solution: play a different style of defense. What that should be, I have no idea.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indy plays the same D, with “undersized” players, but I guess Buffalo is the only team who gets injured.
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by howedyhowe on Nov 23, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indy has had its fair share of defensive injuries
Ask Bob Sanders aka the glass man. You don’t think about it as much because Peyton makes them relevant no matter what.
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by partyboybackformore on Nov 23, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When’s the last time that our deffense could be described as hard hitting? Its been a VERY long time.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 28, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its more than just injuries they can’t finish games which also probably has some thing to do with the strength coach. Also when you get tired the more likely you are to get injured as you began to lose focus. So if they get a new strength coach to better condition them as well getting their muscles balanced to prevent non-contact and overuse injuries because stronger muscles have to compensate for weaker muscles, these are things that can be prevented.
by The Buffalonian on Nov 23, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You put ANY NFL defense on the field for 2/3 or more of the game, and chances are you give up a lot of points in the 4th, which the Bills have done.
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by howedyhowe on Nov 23, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a non issue if the Bills had any sort of depth. Quality players would make a huge difference.
"Next time I get the opportunity I am going to hold on and make a better decision." ~ Leodis McKelvin. (Can't ask for anythitng more than that)
by NolaBillsFan on Nov 23, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair at the rate the Bills are going even the back-ups are getting injured.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Nov 24, 2009 5:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another theory to explain all the injuries
Dave Gettleman, a former Bills scout who is now the Director of Pro Personnel for the NY Giants and, I hope, our next GM, claims the problem has to do with the year-round intensive training that NFL players now routinely undertake. All that weight-lifting, treadmilling, etc. takes a toll on their bodies, he believes, which is why there has been such a sharp increase in injuries in the NFL this decade. They need some downtime in the offseason to allow their bodies to rest and heal instead of constantly pumping iron in an effect to get stronger and stronger. He may well be right.
by Macktruck on Nov 23, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My theory.
These guys are drinking tap water rather than reverse osmosis purified water. Fluoride make bones brittle.
The players are not eating organic food instead of GMO.
They are consuming drinks with exciteotoxins products like Diet Pepsi and Coke.
The players are eating way too many carbs and not enough protein.
The players eat protien and starch in the same meal.
I think Owens would make a much better strength and conditioning coach as well as nutritionist then what we have,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 24, 2009 2:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But Owens has been hurt twice this year, too. Groing and hip, right?
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 25, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strength/Conditioning
Ask Thurman Thomas about a S/C coach. When Rusty Jones was here. The injuries were a lot fewer. According to Thurman the conditioning has a lot to do with it.
by Bob on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It could also have something to do with the fact that we have mostly undersized players
It would seem a 300+ lb OL crashing down on a 220 lb LB might be a slight mismatch.
by live6453 on Nov 23, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Undersized player get overmatched.
And when that happens they get broken.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 24, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but the strength and condition coaches
add to the problem.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 24, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
I think the biggest problem is that just about every player is way too small, there’s no big men… ANYWHERE! That style might work in a warm weather area, but… not in Buffalo.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
by UZ on Nov 24, 2009 5:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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