some thoughts
Bills fans should be cheering for these things:
The Oakland Raiders - They'd probably make a stupid pick, but Oakland is a potential obstacle to a QB or OT in the first round.
Brady Quinn - As bad as the Bills are, the Browns aren't catching them in the standings. Some more Brady Quinn TD passes puts the Bills that much closer to being able to select the guy who succeeded him at Notre Dame.
The Jets .... to lose - I hate those guys and I think it's funny that they could wind up with another high pick. They aren't a threat to go after a QB and probably won't take an OT either. And I like that they might find themselves in cap trouble soon. I'd love to watch them collapse their way into another big rookie salary.
The Redskins and Seahawks - Another couple teams tied with Buffalo who might be looking QB or OT.
The Chargers and Cowboys to keep on winning - Those teams can keep their mediocre coaches and let Buffalo find a good one.
A new collective bargaining agreement - It's not so much that a capless league is one that Ralph Wilson and Buffalo can't compete in. I'm more worried about the potential free agent pool and the lack of roster turnover that could follow. No cap = fewer changes to this roster.
The Buffalo Bills! - I know it hurts where we could pick in the draft, but let's go Bills!
Other thoughts:
Brian Brohm is not playing this season and it's for a variety of reasons. It takes a 24 year old QB a bit longer than a month of scout team practices to learn a playbook. Putting him in the lineup is a recipe for him to fail. It doesn't help Brohm or tell the Bills what they have in him in any way. Fewell and the Bills are still trying to win games, Brohm is not the way to do that. The Bills gave him a two year contract for a reason and that is because they wanted to bring him into camp next year and see what happens. I saw some people post some crazy rationale behind signing Brohm, but couldn't the simplest reason be the most likely? That reason being the Bills saw an opportunity to get a 24 year old QB, who they recently scouted and probably thought a lot of, for nothing.
And on Brohm, he's a flier. He's got a good shot to win the 3rd QB job, but I'd consider him a huge longshot to end up climbing any higher than that on the depth chart. He might have a good future, but that future doesn't come to fruition next year. Over two preseason's worth of fourth quarter action, Brohm is 58 of 104 for 455 yards (4.4 yards per attempt), zero TDs and four INTs. He's been sacked nine times, fumbled four times and lost three of those fumbles. He's been a disaster in the preseason and lost his backup gig to a late rounder and ended up on a practice squad. He's nowhere near ready to make a contribution to this team.
On the QB vs. OT debate. I still havn't recieved an answer or reason as to why Buffalo can't do both this offseason. If Buffalo passes on QB because there aren't any good ones, then that's fine, but I find the logic that the OL isn't good enough to draft a QB to be very flawed. If the OL isn't good enough to draft a QB, then sign a free agent or two. Draft somebody in the 2nd round, or trade back up into the first if you have to. QB sould be Buffalo's top priority and if the situation isn't right for a QB, then fix that quick, because not getting the franchise QB this offseason is just pushing the rebuild back one more season. This team will never compete without a QB unless they can build a historic defense like Baltimore.
I want to point out how different it is to hire Shanahan as the HC/GM and to hire Shanahan and let him pick some pushover GM to work with. HC/GM is a terrible idea. While a HC with all the authority, but a GM to work with isn't my favorite option, it isn't a bad one either. For me the difference is in the workload of the head coach. A HC/GM may not have much more authority, but if he has a GM, he doesn't have to organize the scouts, design a system for setting up a draft board and set up the entire structure of the front office. At the very least we need a GM to manage the front office, even if he isn't the one making any personel decisions.
I'd have no problem grabbing a DT in the first round if it was a BPA situation, but I find it annoying to read mock drafts that say Buffalo needs a DT because the run D stinks. As if no other position matters in run defense and the crappy LBs and safeties aren't the majority of the problem. Stroud and Williams are rock solid. Even with their injuries, Stroud and Williams rank 2nd and 5th amongst DTs in tackles.
How impressive is it that this defense, with all the injuries, TOP issues and terrible offense is 19th in points allowed per game?
Bill Cowher isn't leaving the booth for Buffalo. Not that he has been a huge topic of discussion, but we should put him on the Gruden list of guys to not bother talking about. Dungy isn't coming back into the league either, especially for Buffalo.
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On the QB front
I agree that this is the year to try to get the franchise QB. The one you chose is the worst of the group. I am a huge ND fan, and I also follow draft prospects very closely. Clausen has 2 huge problems that are very difficult to teach: pocket awareness and the ability to anticipate a reciever coming open. Locker and Bradford both have a much better pocket awareness than Clausen. The anticipation is the big one to me. Look back at all the prospects that have failed at the NFL level at QB over the last 20 years. The biggest reason is they do not have the avility to anticipate a reciever coming open. I college a QB can wait till the reciever makes his break and gains separation. In the NFL, if you see a wr open, then he is already covered. You have to anticipate the break and throw it to the open window. JP Losman was a perfect example. All the physical talent in the world, but he did not have the ability to anticipate a receiver coming open. Same thing for David Carr, Trent Edwards, Tim Couch, Akili Smith and so on….
Now look at Drew Brees. Barely 6’00. Arm strength equal average. Watch him throw the ball. He sees his recievers coming open beforre they even make there break. Tom Brady does the same thing. Same does Payton Manning. None of them have the arm strength of Jay Cutler, yet you would take any of them in a second over him. I would even say JP probably had a stronger arm than those three. The point is arm strength does has some importance, I would take a QB that has “qb instincts” any day of the week. Now that I realized that I got completely off topic, both Bradford and Locker show these qualities. Even Ryan Mallett, as inexperienced as he is, has shown the ability to feel pressure and anticipate routes. I would look at those three.
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Kais,
I completely agree with your assessment of the Bills roster, especially when it comes to Brohm. At best, he’ll be the 3rd QB and Fitzpatrick looks like a solid #2 with 2 years left on his contract.
What are the options looking like at LB in the 2010 draft? I think that is clearly one of the most urgent needs for the Bills, second only to the QB position, and I’d like to see us get a QB as early as possible. Do you think there are trade possibilities with sending Lynch to a team for a decent LB?
Finally, who’s your ideal QB pick in the upcoming draft? My vote is for McCoy, Clausen, or Locker – I think they all have the potential to be good starting QBs in the NFL.
Two points of contention:
1. I still have yet to hear anyone give an idea of who will replace Lynch if we remove him AND why we should get rid of him in the first place. Other than BAWWW HE NOT GUD THIS YER, of course.
2. McCoy is Capn’ Checkdown Jr. I don’t think he’ll have what it takes to be a great QB, especially in Buffalo where we’re already sick of seeing short passes every damn down.
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by UZ on Nov 23, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I could go either way on trading Marshawn depending on what you can get for him. I’m with you that he has gotten way to much flack for dancing and his performance in general. He was dreadful against Miami in his first game back, but since then, his numbers are pretty comparable to Jackson.
Here’s the logic for trading him though: He only has two more years left on his deal and do you really want to invest a sizable contract into a veteran RB, especially one with his off field track record? RBs can be dime a dozen guys with mid rounders regularly having good careers. It’s a short life span position where most teams are rotating guys and you can draft a decent player in the middle of this draft, pair him with Jackson and get comparable results while saving some money on Lynch’s contract that you can use on the OL or somewhere else in FA.
I don’t know if that is a good enough argument for trading him, but those are the reasons why you could trade Marshawn.
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What are the options looking like at LB in the 2010 draft?
I think Brandon Spikes from Florida could be a great early 2nd round pick up.
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If we’re waiting until the 3rd/4th to go LB we have Rennie Curran from Georgia as a possible pickup as well.
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by UZ on Nov 24, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling Brandon Spikes will be gone by the 2nd round.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 24, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Great choice. I think that it will truly come down between Pike and Spikes as our second round pick this year.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 24, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
I still havn’t made up my mind on the QBs. I like the big three of Clausen, Locker and Bradford, but I’m not sure which ones I’d be willing to take with a top 5 or top 10 pick and if there’s a guy I would trade up for.
The strength of the LB class is TBD. At least 2/3 of the early round LBs are underclassman so whether guys like Rolando McClain, Josh Byrnes, Greg Jones, Chris Gallipo, Quan Sturdivant, Travis Lewis, Navorro Bowman, Rennie Curran and Bruce Carter come out will make or break the class.
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Fitzpatrick looks like a solid #2 with 2 years left on his contract
Did anyone actually think that we would be hearing these words at the begining of the year?
Actually scratch that. Did anybody think that we would be hearing those words that that they might hold true at the begining of the year?
I know I didn’t. I mean sure I liked the signing, but I didn’t think that he would be our long term #2 guy with the capability of starting in a bind. I think he showed that ability last game though. But don’t confuse that with me saying that he’s a number 2 with the capability to start consistently, because he is not.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 24, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I completely agree with you on the mock drafts – you really have to look more into it then what they put there. One I saw said we need a pass catching TE… we got one, and he is starting due to two TE on IR in front of him…
I would really like to see a DT in the first round only because the top 3 DT are all solid, but there is a huge drop off after that. I am not convinced on the QB’s and don’t want the Bills to pick one, just to pick one.
Williams and Stroud are high on tackles, but that’s because they will get two stops and then give up a 10 yarders. I don’t have anything against them, but they someone really good to improve that rotation, Stroud isn’t getting any younger and there’s a reason they get torched in the 4th quarter…
IMO the LB selection is pretty solid all around and you could easily get one in the 2nd round with out much drop off from the first and possibly even the third (more likely late 2nd).
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I'm not ruling out
Cowher or Dungy. I think both could consider us if they saw that the path to contention was quick. I think Dungy more than Cowher could look at the Bills and like Fewell as a DC and like our core. I feel like we could attract someone if there was a decent QB free agent or trade out there.
I’m not in the Buffalo area and I can tell you that the Bills as a team have a very good reputation in terms of players. People think they play very hard and have had horrible luck. The grass is always greener elsewhere. We have a good core and we play hard and that could be attracted to a coach Dungy or Cowher.
The Redskins will be going for an OT. They’ve been roundly criticized because there was a report that showed that they haven’t drafted a 1st or 2nd round O-lineman in about 10 years. I also think they are through with developing young QBs after Ramsey and Campbell.
I feel like Wade Phillips is on his last leg in Dallas. Jones is going to claim that they have the talent to win a Super Bowl and unless he wins it, he is done. Believe it or not, I will take Wade Phillips back. I liked him and thought that that team that lost to the Titans on the forward pass was a superbowl caliber team.
I know this is heresy. But I still have not given up on Trent Edwards. I think Trent needs protection and Derek Schouman.
He had both of those last year. THAT WORKED OUT SO WELL DIDN’T IT
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by UZ on Nov 23, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think Adrian Wilson would beg to differ.
by WhiskeySierra6 on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Cowher or Dungy would turn down Buffalo, I think that they will turn down the entire league this offseason. I’ve crossed them off my list because I think they aren’t coming back this year unless Cowher can get the Carolina job and stay with his family.
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Why not make it easy?
Root for teams that suck and pray their QBs go on a Losemanesque run
If the OL isn’t good enough to draft a QB, then sign a free agent or two.
We have tried that. Do teams like the Steelers bring in high priced FAs olinemen or draft them?
We need a NT because we are switching to a 3-4……yes I can see into the future
I think Polian must have put a curse on the Bills when he left. Anyone know where we can get a live Buffalo to sacrifice on the 50 yards line? Or, maybe we should use a Dolphin ??? Preferably, Nick Buoniconti
Root for teams that suck and pray their QBs go on a Losemanesque run
That would have been easy. Keeping my posts short isn’t exactly my specialty.
Do teams like the Steelers bring in high priced FAs olinemen or draft them?
No, but the Steelers don’t draft them early either. And they have a pretty crappy OL. The Steelers start a pair of 3rd rounders, a 4th rounder, a 6th rounder and an FA. I think a solid FA (Poz threw Matt Light’s name out there) would stabilize the entire line. The Bills could then go out and draft a lineman in the 2nd round. What if they grabbed a guy like Ciron Black who could play RT or guard? I just have a hard time believing that the OL is in such bad shape that we can’t possibly draft a QB to play behind it without grabbing a first round LT (not that you are one of the people saying that).
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The Oakland Raiders – They’d probably make a stupid pick.
Ha – probably couldn’t agree more. I actually almost feel kind of bad for Oakland fans. How bad are they going to have to eat that Russell contract?
The Jets …. to lose – I hate those guys and I think it’s funny that they could wind up with another high pick……..And I like that they might find themselves in cap trouble soon. I’d love to watch them collapse their way into another big rookie salary.
I hate the Jets, and Jets fans even more (apologies to those Jet fans who post intelligently here on SB Nation – it’s your brethren who attend Bills games that annoy me the most). I rec’d this whole post, but even if it only contained the above paragraph, I would have rec’d it anyway…
A new collective bargaining agreement – It’s not so much that a capless league is one that Ralph Wilson and Buffalo can’t compete in. I’m more worried about the potential free agent pool and the lack of roster turnover that could follow. No cap = fewer changes to this roster.
Ok – forget about rec’ing your post for the Jets comments. The one above gets a double rec if possible. The FA pool for next year (sans cap) is ridiculously void of talent. There are so many poison pills tied in with the no cap thing. If that happens, teams hoping to overhaul their roster are going to be in for a surprise. That’s another reason I think the big names are going to want to wait until the last minute before grabbing a coaching seat – to see how the CBA plays out. Imagine taking a job where you are supposed to change the whole roster, and all you can change are 8 draft picks and maybe 2-3 low to middle FAs? I also would love to know what Buffalo’s expected cap room is, if they do extend the CBA somehow. That’s an important piece of information for anyone considering the job.
On Brohm – I’ll admit – I’m one of those people hoping to see what he can do. I think you made a good argument on why he shouldn’t play this year. In any event, you are at least making me rethink my stance on this.
While a HC with all the authority, but a GM to work with isn’t my favorite option, it isn’t a bad one either.
I don’t like the HC/GM thing either, like many of us. But I could live with a situation like you described here.
How impressive is it that this defense, with all the injuries, TOP issues and terrible offense is 19th in points allowed per game?
Very. Very much so.
Bill Cowher isn’t leaving the booth for Buffalo
I’m ok with that. I actually think Cowher is overrated. He got lucky to be in the right place at the right time, then did enough not to screw it up for a long time. Chuck Noll and the Rooney’s made that organization into what it is.
I too pity Oakland fans. I will laugh at their misfortune to make me feel better about the Bills’ situation though.
A season with no cap couldn’t come at a worse time. I’m dreading the possibility.
Maybe I’m being a little harsh on Brohm. I think he’ll be given every chance to impress in training camp and preseason next year and it’s not unlikely that he does. But I don’t see how he can factor into things this season or have any effect on what Buffalo does this offseason.
I actually think Cowher is overrated
Love to see you say that. I’ve thought that for a long time and have never really had anybody agree with me. If some team gives him 9 or 10 mil a season to be the HC and GM, I think they’re setting themselves up for a big dissapointment.
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I’m on board with the “Cowher is overrated” crowd, too, though I wouldn’t say he’s more than slightly overrated. He’s a good coach, but I don’t think he’s the type of guy that walks through the doors and magically saves the day.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
He’s a good coach, but I don’t think he’s the type of guy that walks through the doors and magically saves the day.
Aside from Bill Belichick, who can? I’d argue that signing ANY new HC is akin to drafting a QB at #1.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 24, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
defensive tackles
If the new coaching staff wants a 3-4, I don’t think Stroud or Williams will have a major role with the team next year other than possibly in subpackages and a NT will be needed at some point in the offseason. It would be tough to gut one of our few productive positions, but on the other hand Maybin and Posluszny are much better suited for the 3-4 so there are pros and cons for the existing personnel in either case. No matter what happens, I hope the defense gets bigger in some way- and in my opinion, I hope that includes DT too.
My guess is that they would both probably switch to DE in a 3-4. Stroud might actually be a smart fit there, though he is an old dog and these would definitely be new tricks. Williams, the outcome would be a little less clear. Spencer Johnson, I think, might actually thrive there. He’s been switching b/w DE and DT in our 4-3 all year. The main problem with a 3-4 switch, though, is that we just don’t have the behemoths up front. A big reliable anchor at NT is not just something you fall into. More depth issues at DE. Lord knows Kelsay, Denney, and Schobel wouldn’t be capable of line play in a 3-4. We would need a couple players at each position, mind you, to protect against an injury situation, like with Jenkins and Ferguson. With our other depth issues at LB and the OL, plus a QB, that would make a rebuilding project much longer.
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good read kaiser, rec'd
i like your list of who to roote for, sounds about right.
isnt the Patriots LT going to be a free agent? He could be a great stop gap while we wait to draft a better one while going for a QB. I have a bad feeling Wood wont be ready for hte start of 2010.
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I’ve called Matt Light overrated a bunch of times and I would still love to sign him. I think a quality, dependable LT would stabilize the OL.
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right
and he would give us some insight into the Patriots and experience in the division as a winner. I think they plan on letting him walk so we should try and get him.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
I’d bet they let him walk too. I don’t think he will be cheap, but I don’t think he’d need a huge contract either. Buffalo has a good amount of money coming off the books this year and a few trades/cuts that typcially come with coaching changes should open up even more money. Light would be an excellent addition.
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He doesn't even start anymore, does he?"
Sebastion Volmer has been playing I’ve noticed….Is Light injured?
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Yeah, his knee is hurt. I guess he might not get his job back when he’s healthy though. He’s not a great LT, but I think a veteran player like that could do wonders for a really young line and it would allow the Bills to draft a project LT and give all these offensive lineman the time they need to develop.
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I like the idea
There seems to be a lot of OT prospects that need time to fill out and get stronger before playing a key role in the NFL. Having a guy like Light to allow that player to transition slowly might be the smart move, especially if we do end up drafting a QB in the first.
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On HCs
He’s a good coach, but I don’t think he’s the type of guy that walks through the doors and magically saves the day.
I’m hoping that’s not what we’re expecting in Buffalo if we land one of these “big name” former head coaches…
I think the real changes need to happen at the FO level, and that’s where I think one of these big name guys can help out the most – preferably serving as GM. On this point I completely agree with Kais, a HC/GM is certainly not something I want to see in Buffalo and I think it is a recipe for disappointment.
Let’s not fool ourselves, Buffalo simply does not have the talent to even be a semi-serious contender at this point and I think changes need to happen from within, particularly at the FO level, before we can dream of reaching the postseason again.
I’m hoping that’s not what we’re expecting in Buffalo if we land one of these "big name" former head coaches…
I certainly am not. My sense is that that’s exactly what Ralph is hoping for, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
while i agree with you
never say never.
A lot of horrendous teams have had miraculous turnarounds. A new regime can get creative with the same talent after bringing in some fresh faces to plug some gaps.
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