Bills/Dolphins: Five questions with The Phinsider
You know what time it is. The Miami Dolphins will be gracing Ralph Wilson Stadium with their presence this Sunday for the first time since December 9, 2007, when the Trent Edwards-led Buffalo Bills put a 38-17 beat down on a Dolphins team that finished 1-15 that year. Now Buffalo is attempting to avoid losing their fourth straight game to their biggest rival.
Joining us, as always, for Bills/Dolphins week is Matty I from The Phinsider. His interview with me is after the jump, and his interview of me is over at his site, so make sure you check both out. Away we go.
Chad Henne. He's the present and future of the Dolphins, and Miami is now 5-2 in games he's started. He's been a pretty solid game manager, only throwing 4 INT - but it's also pretty clear that he's not doing some of the things he was supposed to do, like improve Miami's deep game (he's averaging just 6.1 yards per attempt). Have you in any way been disappointed by this guy?
Disappointed? Not at all. Henne is a guy who has stepped in when he wasn't even expected to (at least not that early in the season) and has played relatively well. He's still inconsistent with his accuracy. But his strong arm has come as advertised, and he's made some throws that Chad Pennington's arm just wouldn't allow him to make. He looks very poised in big spots and has been exceptional on third down.
As far as the deep passing game goes, you can't say that Henne isn't doing something he is supposed to do. Those long passes will come in time. The fact of the matter is that the Dolphins don't have any receivers to throw to down the field. Ted Ginn is the only receiver the Dolphins have who can actually stretch a defense - and he has suddenly forgotten how to catch the football. The rest of this team's receivers look like they're running in quicksand. But once the Dolphins actually get some speed at the receiver position, I'm pretty confident that we'll see an improved deep game.
Here's how desperate Bills fans are about our current quarterback position: any chance Miami re-signs Chad Pennington as a backup for the 2010 season?
Ugh.
I say that because I think it makes a lot of sense for Chad Pennington to consider going to Buffalo. And that's the last thing I want to see. Having had the pleasure of seeing how valuable a guy like Pennington is to a franchise in the year and a half he's been in Miami, I would really hate to see him go to a division rival. He's exactly what a team like Buffalo needs.
As far as Pennington's future in Miami goes, I don't think anyone can say with any certainty that they know what will happen. With that said, I don't find it likely that Pennington - if he decides to play next season - is a Dolphin in 2010. I think that both the front office and the coaching staff have decided that Henne is their guy. They also seem determined to develop Pat White as both a backup and a "spread option" quarterback. And I'm not sure Pennington would want to come back to Miami knowing that he was, at best, only going to be the No. 2 guy - especially if a team like Buffalo comes calling offering their starting job to him.
Like I said, it's the last thing I want to see. But if he was to end up in Buffalo, I'd wish him all the luck in the world, because he's among the classiest athletes I've ever seen.
Obviously the Ronnie Brown injury hurts - less so for the Dolphins than for the championship run I was plotting in my fantasy football league. I've spoken with you before about my immense respect for Ricky Williams, but at 32 years old, is he capable of being the workhorse back for a physical team trying to make a playoff run?
Tell me about it, Brian. Ronnie was also on one of my fantasy teams - in the league that has "a lot" on the line (if you catch my drift). So his injury was a double whammy for me.
As for Ricky, that's the million dollar question. I don't doubt his ability and I wasn't very surprised at how effective he was last week against the Panthers. But he did carry the ball 22 times just four days after carrying it 20 times against Tampa Bay. His season high in carries last year was just 16 - back in Week 3. And he hasn't carried the football 20+ times in back to back weeks since the end of the 2005 season. So I'm not as confident as some are that Ricky can handle a much increased workload for six more weeks.
But I also think we're going to see Lex Hilliard get more chances as the year goes on. The Dolphins kept Hilliard on the 53-man roster out of training camp as the fourth running back because they did like what they saw from him. Now he's the primary backup and I think we'll start to see 10-12 touches per game for Lex as we move forward. Rookie Kory Sheets might also get a few looks - particularly in the "Wildcat" taking Ricky's spot as the "sweeper" while Ricky mans Ronnie's old spot as the triggerman.
It's hardly surprising that Cameron Wake had his coming out party against Buffalo, but he's been much more than a flash-in-the-pan of late. How has his role changed, and will it continue to do so in the future?
Cameron Wake has proven to be a real pass-rushing monster, to be honest. Despite playing just 100 defensive snaps this year, Wake is tied for second on the Dolphins with 4.5 sacks and leads the team in quarterback pressures with 15. But the coaching staff still isn't comfortable with Wake's ability to set the edge on rushing plays and to drop into coverage when it's necessary to do so. And that's why his snap count has been so low.
But his game reps are increasing. Back in Week 8, Wake saw just one defensive snap. The following week, he saw 12. But then in Week 10 - with Joey Porter sitting out due to a "coach's decision" - Wake saw 33 reps. Then last week, with Porter returning, Wake only saw 10. But I get the feeling that his role is going to slowly increase as the weeks go by - especially to keep the team's two starting OLB, Porter and Jason Taylor, fresh.
Sean Smith and Vontae Davis have been your full-time starting corners for about a month now. How well have they progressed this season?
I think I echo most Dolphin fans when I say that I'm very excited about both Vontae Davis and Sean Smith. Smith has been starting since day one and he's played quite well. In fact, it seemed like teams were picking on Will Allen to avoid throwing in Smith's direction. But over the past few weeks, Smith has been a little more inconsistent. I don't know if it's the "rookie wall" - though that would make a lot of sense considering he's been a starter all season - or if it's just a situation where he's making some mental mistakes. Either way, though, I'm not too worried about it because I think he's going to be a very good player.
Meanwhile, Davis just stepped into the starter's role once Allen went down for the season. And he's progressed very nicely since his increase in snaps. He's making fewer mental mistakes and, right now, might be out-playing Smith. But even still, he does get beat at times. But I've also noticed that when he gives up a big play, it's not because he's beat or out of position. He just needs to get his head around quicker on deep balls.
All in all, though, it's hard for any Dolphin fan to sit here and not be pleased with how these two are coming along. Quite honestly, I think the Dolphins are going to be strong at cornerback for years to come.
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Really curious to the general response here regarding Matt’s thoughts on Pennington in Buffalo.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions
I think he’s the best option avaialable as a UFA.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 25, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I would have to agree
as long as he can take the beating he is certain to get behind the Bills yet to be determined O-line. Can he take the beating, or would he just be another guy on IR collecting a check?
I think Polian must have put a curse on the Bills when he left. Anyone know where we can get a live Buffalo to sacrifice on the 50 yards line? Or, maybe we should use a Dolphin ??? Preferably, Nick Buoniconti
I've always hated playing him.
I’d love to see him start 8-12 games here next year before giving way to our new “Franchise Quarterback”®
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Pennington in Buffalo
Well, he has been in the division for quite awhile. He is injured and needs to heal. He needs to regain what strength he had, anything less could be a career decision. Looking forward would be Pennington, Fitzpatrick and Brohm assuming Fitzpatrick survives this season. Or could be Pennington, Edwards and Brohm. I had to spell this out so I could see it in Black and White.
I like the Pennington, Fitzpatrick and Brohm scenerio over drafting high for QB, but only if Pennington can return healthy and Fitzpatrick survives. Brohm is our early draft pick and as far as I am concerned Edwards needs time off. Three and Out.
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I wasn’t sold on this idea when I first heard it brought up, mainly because there were other candidates that I would put ahead of him. The more I think about it though the more the idea is starting to grow on me, he could be the perfect transition piece for this team. If he fully recovers I’d be for it.
that would be so disappointing
Nothing would be more disappointing to me than if Buffalo brought in Pennington at QB. Buffalo brought in Brohm, I think the new coach will cut both Edwards and Fitz (maybe let one or both hang around until camp but eventually they will lose to the new QBs that are brought in, so why bother?), then sign a real free agent veteran (maybe Vick or Kolb or whoever else they can get their hands on) and will draft a QB with their number 1 pick. I don’t see Pennington as a guy that brings anything to the table in a competition with Brohm and a top 3 QB from the draft.
Kolb isn’t going to be a free agent. He is signed through 2011.
Why is Vick better than Pennington?
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 25, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Vick isnt a better QB than Pennington
Hell he isnt a QB at all.
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Pennington being the most accurate QB in NFL history agrees with this point.
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Yeah, Pennington is just one year removed from having the 2nd highest QB rating in the league.
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Noodle Arm in Buffalo?
You’re kidding me – right? How could he possibly play in WNY in Nov & Dec? He can’t throw any deeper than a 5 yarder. How thats even a consideration for a QB on our roster is beyond me!
Pls don’t give me the Meadowlands as an example of playing in a cold windy stadium. There’s no comparison to NJ & WNY in Nov & Dec IMO.
I understand he has held the best QB rating on several occassions, but when he’s the ORIGINAL “Captian Checkdown”, one SHOULD expect a rating such as that. Come-back -player of the year – yeah, OK, I’ll give him that one. Starting QB in Buffalo – NO WAY!
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Not the noodle arm everyone thinks....
Pennington was able to throw some 40-50 yard bombs while playing for the dolphins, and there were many times he simply just overthrew the receivers on deep balls.
He’s the most accurate QB in the History of the NFL, and he absolutely commands the huddle. Hell he took us to 11-5, after joining the team just a few days before the season began.
The noodle arm comparison is a bad one….he can throw a deep ball. Where he struggles is the outside routes. He can’t “fire” the ball out real fast to a location on the outside, so defenders have a little more time to make a play on the ball…. Thats really his only drawback.
Learns an offense fast
Manages the game
Can handle 4th Quarter Comebacks with ease
Has played in the Division for a long long time
Able to throw the deep ball
Players immediately respect and “buy into” him.
He really would be a good addition to your squad. Matty and most of the Dolphins fans that actually follow the team (not just the highlights), will tell you, we will cringe if he comes to Buffalo. He’s a helluva gamer, and even a better person.
In the year and half that he’s had in Miami, we probably hold him as one of the better QB’s to ever play for the team, and that says a lot.
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by Fr8Train on Nov 25, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
well said
God i would totally take a guy like Pennington with the ability to the put the ball in a receiver’s hands in the middle of the field than a guy like Edwards who can occasionally throw it outside but doesn’t know the middle of the field even exists.
Is it wrong that I really like it when Phinsider Dolphins fans come over? These are good football fans, even if they’ve been raised to root for the devil.
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We just assume the cold freezes your brains....
we have to come up and be friendly, help thaw you out hehe
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I wouldn't mind Pennington at all
I know people talk about his arm all day long, but I think he is a good QB – and let’s face it, there isn’t one QB coming from this draft that can/should be an instant starter. If the Bills really like Brian Brohm he really should sit for all next year IMHO, and if they draft a guy, he should also sit for a year. Perfect situation for Pennington, especially since you don’t have to trade or anything for him…
Pennington also IMO is the best FA QB, if he decides to come back.
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perfect situation for a veteran
That’s a perfect situation for any veteran. Why bring in the least interesting QB ever (Pennington) when you could bring in someone that the young guys could really be inspired by.
by Polish Lover on Nov 25, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
when you could bring in someone that the young guys could really be inspired by.
Like who?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Jason Campbell would work well in the above sentence.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Young guys are going to be “inspired by” Jason Campbell?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Who in the world do you suggest bringing in to “inspire the young guys?”
Look at the FA crop. Jason Campbell is in a horrible situation in Washington and has shown marked improvement in 3 years.
I won’t even pretend to think that a green as grass rookie can come in and inspire this team.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Chad Pennington is one of the best leaders in the game. Yeah, limitations blah blah blah, but the dude is 43-34 as a starter. I’d take that for a season – that’s 9-7, by the way – until a new guy is ready.
And as far as young guys being inspired, Pennington’s the only free agent that fits that bill.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 25, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think the team should overlook Jason Campbell if he’s tossed away.
I don’t have a problem with Pennington, not at all. I’d be all for him coming to the team. I do have a great dislike for these types of players and contracts in the NFL though. I don’t like the 1-year fix. I want to see that guy and the organization make a long-term commitment to something. I know Pennington isn’t a long-term player at this point, so this is why I have to sit on the fence.
Campbell would provide a longer look, and would be a huge improvement (IMO) over Fitzpatrick, if he (Campbell) were to assume the 2nd-QB slot.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree in any way that Campbell would provide a longer look, nor do I disagree that Campbell should be overlooked.
I would just prefer they find a stop-gap solution (Pennington fits that mold) and draft a QB for the future.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Pennington is one of the smartest NFL players right now
He still helps out Henne and gives his input when it comes to gameplanning.
He loves to teach and he would be a perfect fit in Buffalo if you want him to mentor a young QB.
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yeah this is not a good point
what’s more inspiring than a guy who’s made his living by being able to read defenses and having the courage to stand in and trust his subpar arm? Is there possibly a better message than this for a young quarterback to hear?
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absoloutely, positively,.......... NO
Chad Pennington can not help this franchise. This team doesn’t need a 9 win season (although I know we’d all take one LOL). It needs a sense of direction in the upper management, a respectable offensive line, AND FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. I believe this would make as much sense as going after Kerry Collins or Kurt Warner. A move that serves no purpose but to be able to beat Cleveland, or Oaktown. We need to build an identity not patch one together for a few wins before Ralph kicks it. Build like Atlanta is doing or New Orleans/ Indianapolis has done.
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It needs a sense of direction in the upper management, a respectable offensive line, AND FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
So wait, are you saying Miami didn’t have those things last year?
- Bill Parcells
- Jake Long
- Chad Henne
No one is suggesting Pennington as anything other than a one-year stopgap while we groom a franchise QB. What’s the big deal about bringing in one of the game’s elite game managers to at least keep the team competitive until a rookie is ready to take over?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 25, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
problem is we dont have Bill Parcells, Jake Long, or a respectable offensive line.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
Right. So why would you want to throw a potential “Franchise QB” behind that horrendous line?
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Why would we take a one year stop gap and start from the same place next year? And a game manager is nothing I want to see anymore. Screw “game managers” in Buffalo… we need a quarterback that can play quarterback and win games as a quarterback. Not someone out there playing to not turn it over, not mess up, keep it close. We have that in Edwards and all of are calling for his head. Not to mention his 3rd surgery isnt helping his arm strength, or lack there of.
I dont want to play to keep the score close and hope we can pull it out in the end. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WIN A GAME NOT HOPE WE HAVE A SHOT IN THE 4th. 17 points doesnt cut it in this league anymore. Teams are too good… yes there is exceptions and teams dont HAVE to score 17 to win. But majority of teams that win dont have a “game manager” behind center. And thats what pennington is. A 17 point QB.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
We all want that in a QB too. Good luck finding it in 2010. Seriously – do you think a great QB is just gonna fall out of the sky?
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 25, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I dont like any of the big name QB’s coming out so no I dont think any are falling out of the sky, but at the same time I dont want someone whose coming off major injury to the 2nd most important part of a QB’s body behind their head. Thats the downfall on Bradford and hes young. Penningtons gotta be 30ish and 3 surgerys on the same shoulder is not anything im happy or impressed with. I also dont want our next franchise QB (whoever he may be) learning behind a game manager type QB. I dont want like I said a 17 point QB to show the young kid how its done.
Personally I would rather have Jeff Garcia over Pennington. Even tho hes older I feel he would be able to come in here with fire, passion and be able to get these guys going. Hes older but hes also less banged up.
Either that or go after Kolb hard, with draft picks or whatever. A la Texans with Schaub.
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right we don't want to have a proven winner like pennington
let’s go after someone like Garcia because you think he has fire, or Kolb because his career 68 QB rating is worthdraft picks.
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by JPH on Nov 25, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol youre going to bring in career QB rating with Kolb? Hes played in 3 games and the last 2 were DAN impressive. Over 300 yards and TD’s in both…. oh i forgot we’re used to those numbers here in Buffalo.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
Why would we take a one year stop gap and start from the same place next year?
At no point did I say we should “start from the same place next year.” As it has been mentioned several times in this post already, Pennington would serve as a stop gap while a rookie actually had an opportunity to learn behind a competent QB – a luxury that was not afforded to Trent.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
I didnt say you said that… I said that. By starting from the same place next year I mean another starting quarterback in Buffalo the following year after the 1 year of Pennington.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
And I just don’t want to throw our next possible Franchise QB behind this God-awful line. They’re going to get killed just like Edwards did and I personally don’t want to throw millions of guaranteed dollars at a guy that isn’t likely to make it to the bye week alive.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
So we swap 1st with Philly and throw in a 3rd. And then take a tackle with whatever pick they end up with. Possibly even trade up with Phillys 1st to try and get back higher to pick up a better tackle than where Phillys pick would be (guessing 20-25 slot)
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
That would be nice…I just don’t see anyway that Philly trades its future Franchise QB for a swap of 1st rounders and a 3rd.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Take the stop Gap.....
Groom your QB
More importantly get your O-Line situation straightened out, so any new franchise QB doesn’t get killed ala David Carr…
And most importantly, and this is something Miami has been lucky with. Don’t expect to go 9-7 in your first year….you gotta learn to be happy with a 5-11 season, and then a 9-7 season, and then your 11-5 season. Just want to see the production and growth of the team.
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Yes, thank you. But let’s just throw out a random hypothetical:
- We hire a proven HC or a GM/HC duo
- We draft a guy like Okung or Anthony Davis
- We put some faith in Brohm or roll the dice on a guy like Mallett
You get the point. Miami turned it around in a year from an organizational standpoint. So can we. And that makes Pennington a smart investment in the short term.
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by Brian Galliford on Nov 25, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
And since 02 Pennington has finished 3 seasons. Thats 3 of 8. Which means probability of him finishing the season is slim. So the kid behind him would end up playing anyways…
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
actually thats not entirely correct
means probability of him finishing the season is slim.
Chad Pennington has an incredible history of one year going all 16 games, the next not finishing the season due to injury, one year going all 16 games, the next not finishing the season due to injury. Because of this pattern every time he is healthy he is considered for comeback player of the year. When he got hurt this year it just fell right into the pattern. So if history holds true, he should be a safe bet for 16 games ha ha
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haha. Well must have been an odd ball kid growing up…
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still not buying it even if he does have this trend lol
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
hahahahahahahahaaahah
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lol
this is too funny….that’s pretty much how most Dolphin fans felt when the Jets cut Pennington and rumors swirled that the Dolphins might be interested. I probably said this exact statement word for word in regards to the Dolphins.
But things quickly changed once we had him.
And let me say that CP would work wonders with whatever young QB you draft or bring in. In fact, Pennington (while rehabbing) is still helping Henne break down film every week. It’s amazing the kind of guy CP is.
by Matty I on Nov 25, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
or find a stud like Adrian P or C Johnson
and feed them the ball like a thanksgiving turkey in August :)
Later Losman!
some thoughts
- On Pennington, I have no problem bringing him in but ONLY if we draft a QB in round 1 to sit for a year.
- On Ricky, let me just say here since it won’t really be relevant anytime else that I think if someone asks me who was the best running back I saw in the 2000’s I’ll probably answer Ricky Williams. Obviously guys like LT and Marshall Faulk did it consistently and spectacularly but I think Ricky Williams in his prime on the Dolphins (which was probably only a year and a half) is up there with some of the best running I’ve ever seen from a back. During that period of time Ricky was fast, strong, brutal at breaking tackles, had 3rd, 4th and 5th gears, and had the deadliest stiff arm I’ve seen. So even though it was short lived thanks to his mental break down, I think Ricky at this best was the best this last decade had to offer at RB. Its why I wasn’t suprised when he returned that he was effective agian in Miami. Its also why I drafted him in my fantasy league which matters the most, as Matty I says, if you know what I mean. He hopefully will carry me to a championship. Unfortunately, he is likely to trample us Sunday.
- On Matt Roth, I just read that Matt Roth was released by the Dolphins. Why haven’t we signed him yet? He’s a decent OLB and is certainly an upgrade over the 3rd stringers and safety we’re starting their now.
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Why haven’t we signed him yet?
Because Ralph is taking a nap and Brandon is recovering from jet lag after his Denver trip.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
He weighs 272 pounds. He’s an OLB in Miami’s 3-4. Here he is a DE. His 272 is more than all of our current DEs.
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by MattRichWarren on Nov 25, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
cool, thanks MRW
I’d take him as that too!
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
So how long do we think Chad Pennington would last behind the Bills' offensive line?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions
LT and RT
Reports out of Philly are that RT Eric Winston was given a four year 18 mil extension which could signal the end for Stacy Andrews. In New England the rumors are that LT Matt Light might not get his job back when he returns from injury. A new regime would be wise to bring in one or both to compliment Levitre and Wood (hopefully!).
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
Winston Justice?
and with Andrews his brother would have been playing right next to him on that line. He is depressed and thats the reason he isnt playing this or last year. I doubt he even wants to play anymore, if he doesnt want to play nextside his brother I highly doubt he wants to come back to football.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
I’m all for Matt Light. That Vollmer (sp) kid from Germany sure stepped in, huh?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
yup
typical Patriots i guess….we cant retain talent that we find (Clements, Winfield, Peters), they just have an abundance of it.
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
should have been a reply
No doubt… They lose gold and stumble across a diamond. Its unreal that amount of players they have had that actually produce on the field. And when one goes down or leaves… theres another right behind him. And they dont miss a beat, and in mosts instances it ends up being an upgrade. They can evaluate talent like no other.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
They did save Buffalo from Fred Taylor though.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 25, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
their ability to keep going without missing a beat certainly makes a case for Bellichick being one the best coaches ever doesnt it…
"you just have to know there's always going to be adversity. None of these games are going to be easy. Nothing will be given to us" - Paul Posluszny
No doubt. As much as I hate the Pats… I respect him and what they do more than any team/coach in sports. How they’ve transformed since he arrived is amazing. No true “stars” brought in to help. They get the right guys for the job. And he knows exactly what he has to do in order to put his team in the right position to win.
I truely am shocked every time they lose a game. I know obviously hes going to lose games but its still surprising when they do. Probably a top 5 coach in league history when hes done… if not already.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
No doubt
When the Fins and Pats play — and I’m sure you all feel the same way — I hate them, but I respect the hell out of them. Obviously as a team’s fan, you’d hate your rivals, but as a football fan, you can’t help but appreciate how amazingly well put together that team is.
The Jets? All I feel is just “f*&% ’em”
haha.
Where the Jets get my middle fingers… the pats get a thumbs up. They truely are the best built franchise and Miami isnt too far behind, them and Indy.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
No doubt… They lose gold and stumble across a diamond. Its unreal that amount of players they have had that actually produce on the field. And when one goes down or leaves… theres another right behind him. And they dont miss a beat, and in mosts instances it ends up being an upgrade. They can evaluate talent like no other.
"I don't know how to explain it but we seem to find eachother on the ice and make things happen... Yeah. Pass, shoot, score... Yeah. Pass.. Shoot.. And score."
I completely disagree with Brian for the first time on this site.
Honestly, first time ever. I think Buffalo should bail on conventional theory of drafting a QB and groom him. If he’s not there in the first round this year fix as many holes as possible with your draft selections (assuming a capable management is in place) and throw Brohm to the fire. If that fails go big on the next draft , find the stud and get him. That’s far better than having a respectable season followed by misery for the next few years. Which is going to happen to Miami. You heard it hear first Brian, record this. And write about it in two years when the Patriots own the division and conference again.
Later Losman!

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