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Brian Billick Anyone

We've heard basically any big-name available associated with the Bills. Bill Cower, Mike Holmgrem, Marty Schottenheimer, Tony Dungy, Jon Gruden (All not interested).  Then there's Mike Shanahan.  Let me go on record as saying, he was my top choice 2 months ago.  I'd LOVE HIM.

However, my SECOND CHOICE 2 month ago, was a name NO ONE has associated with the Bills.  Former Ravens head coach Brain Billick.  The guy can coach. He has a SuperBowl, and several playoff appearances.  He has an 85-67 record as a head coach, (5-3 in playoffs). A .556 winning percentage would be welcome in Buffalo. Hell, a .500 record would be welcome. The best thing about Billick, he;s an offensive guru, though you'd never know it from his time in Baltimore. He as an offensive guru, and was a coordinator for the 1998 Minnesota Vikings with Moss and Culpepper who set all kinds of offensive records(broke, much to my chagrin by the 2007 Patriots, thank you Giants).

Billick won a SuperBowl with effing Trent Dilfer.  He NEVER had a QB in Baltimore, but he STILL WON GAMES.  He had Dilfer, Elvis Grbac, Kyle Boller, and aging Steve McNair, and now Joe Flacco. He won games, he made the playoffs, and won a SuperBowl with bottom half of the league QBs.  That's what we have right now. Imagnie if we ever gave him a top QB.  

He's an offensive guru and has coached some of the best defenses in history.  He did it without good QBs.  Imagine if we draft a good QB, and then get our defense goind.  Did anyone else see Schobel in the 3-4??? We ACTUALLY had pass rush. 

On anotehr note, have you ever heard Billick as the color guy for an NFL broadcats???  He's brilliant.  I love listening to him.  He talks about parts of the game I never even think of.  When he talks about how teams use timeouts in the final 2 minutes of a half, it blows my mind.

I'd love to have Shanahan, but why aren't people talking about Billick as a very realistic (low money market/offensive guru/winning record) option.  I;d love to have a guy like him OR Shanahan coaching my team.  Afte rall, the knock on Shanahan is how long it took him to win a SuperBowl with Elway.  Billick won one with effing Dilfer.

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I'd love Billick

He’s one of the most underrated coaches in recent history I think.

However, somehow I doubt he leaves broadcasting after doing it for a couple years.

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by UZ on Nov 26, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

All I have to say about this is...

That Billick won with effing Dilfer because he had the best deffense in NFL history that year. And another thing, he wasn’t running the D.

Billick is a QB killer, we’ve had enough of those In Buffalo in the last 10 years.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 26, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions  

Billick never had Flacco. He was drafted by Harbaugh who replaced BIllick.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 26, 2009 8:15 AM EST reply actions  

for an offensive guru he never had a good Offense in Baltimore

I would definitly pass on Billick

7 games and counting!!!

by Rudy916 on Nov 26, 2009 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

Billick

wears out his welcome very, very quickly. He is not the most pleasant person with the media and fans. If we are going for offense, I think I prefer Martz to Billick, because Martz did make two Super Bowl trips.

The Baltimore superbowl was an aberation—the stars aligned. A team like that with that type of luck comes around once in a generation and there’s nothing you can do to stop it, even if you are an average coach with an average QB.

by Ono on Nov 26, 2009 9:01 AM EST reply actions  

If my memory serves me right, a lot of the credit for that Baltimore Superbowl win should go to Marvin Lewis, who was the DC at the time and did an outstanding job — much better than he has ever done as a HC for the Bengals.

by Macktruck on Nov 26, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Whatever.......

Sportscaster is right. B.B. was a steady, winning coach. And last time we had that was……?
Since everyone else has already turned us down:
Cower is the 1st choice. And he ain’t coming because he wants the Carolina coach to get fired so he can swoop in.
Shanahan is #2. Would he bring in his chosen one DEF coordinator and his boy Kyle? But no way I’d pay him as much as the rumors are saying. NO WAY.
Billick is a quality #3 that could be had at a fair cost. Period.
The runners up are: Fassl (I still like him), Haslett, Herm and even Denny. Our Defense was always great under Teddy. Or pick your favorite coordinator. Dick LeBeau? Todd Haley?
Don’t even mention the word “Martz.” Puke.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 26, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Brian Billick would be an interesting guy for sure, but I’d still prefer – if we got to this, meaning us not getting Shanny – hiring a GM first like Eric DeCosta, Dave Gettleman or Kevin Colbert and let them run the show and find the right coach.

by BillsfanfromDenmark on Nov 26, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Gettleman has to be our new GM

Hands down. Period.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Nov 26, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I’l be willing to entertain some Billick talk. I personally don’t like him, but I think he’s someone to consider.

by krytime on Nov 26, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve never been a Billick fan. Here’s a stat for everybody: last year the Bills finished 23rd in points per game with exactly 21 points per. In nine seasons as a head coach, the Billick lead Ravens scored more than 21 points per game twice. Seriously, Billick’s offense in Baltimore finished higher than 12th in points per game one time in nine years. And we’re going to call him an offensive guru?

The fact that Billick was even playing Trent Dilfur in the first place is more of a black mark than it is something he should boast about. As a head coach, Billick completely ignored the incredibly well run defense. On the way to his one Super Bowl win, that defense was historic. Here’s some stats from that defense:

In the year that the Ravens went to the Super Bowl, they broke the record of fewest points allowed in a season …. by 22 points. They allowed 165 points in the 16 regular season games breaking the 1986 Chicago Bears record of 187 points.

During the playoffs, the Ravens defense allowed 3 points to the Broncos, 10 points to the Titans, 3 points to the Raiders and seven points against the Giants in the Super Bowl.

Billick won a Super Bowl out of circumstance. He was never able to find or develop a QB and had terrible offenses despite inheriting a great offensive line lead by Jonathon Ogdon.

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by kaisertown on Nov 26, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Lets not forget some increadible running by Jamal Lewis. Take Lewis off of that team and they never win a SB. He was the only offence that they had.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 26, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he already had Priest Holmes on that team when he took over too. So he had a great OL, had Priest Holmes and drafted Jamal Lewis. And with that running game, the Ravens still had bad passing attacks.

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by kaisertown on Nov 27, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

No way on Billick.

First of all he seems to make snarky comment after comment on the Bills on NFL network.

If we can’t get a top tier coach, I think top of my list for second tier would be now

Jim Harbaugh.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 27, 2009 3:26 AM EST reply actions  

what about Leslie Frazier

he would make a good HC i think he would keep the same defense we run so no massive overhaul and he is the next Mike Tomlin in my opinion… if ur unfamiliar with him he is th DC in Minnesota

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by TheAutumnWind on Nov 27, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

He runs the Tampa 2 in a very aggressive style.
He is literally the next Mike Tomlin…. he replaced the Steelers coach as Minnesota’s DC.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 27, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn’t even call it a Tampa 2. It’s more of a blend of Tampa 2 and a traditional 4-3. He’s got Pat Williams playing two gaps, huge linebackers and he blitzes a ton in some games and not at all in others. He does use Tampa 2 coverage schemes. So it’s kind of the best of both worlds. We’ve seen how effective the cover 2 is as a base pass defense in Buffalo and Frazier finds a way to incorporate a huge two gap, run stuffing DT and big run stopping LBs into it. I’d love Leslie Frazier as the next Bills coach, especially if they pair him with one of those up and coming GMs.

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by kaisertown on Nov 27, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

He learned the blitzing stuff for Jim Johnson in Philly then got the Tampa 2 stuff in Indy and Minny.

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by MattRichWarren on Nov 27, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Leslie Frazier could be a good one.

But we’re going offense this time it looks. I say Jim Harbaugh if we can’t get a Shanahan or Cowher\.

 Harbaugh is the hardest nosed offensive coach of second tier candidates.

If Stanford can’t beat you, they will beat you up…

If we can’t get Shanahan or Cowher, I’m all for Harbaugh.

There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.

by The Buffalo Kid on Nov 27, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

What About Jim Harbaugh anyone like that idea

i love his toughness on offense … we need an identiy like that

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by TheAutumnWind on Nov 30, 2009 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear talk that Dennis Green wants back

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by Farorefox on Nov 27, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah you’d like that, wouldn’t you Phin’s fan? ;-)

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by CanadianBillsFan on Nov 27, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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