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Our best chance is keeping Jauron

I was looking at the standings this morning and realized just how horribly pathetic the NFL is this year.  There are so many bottom dwellers this year that it's not even funny.  I was trying to see if we had a chance to be picking in the top 3-5 picks in next years draft.  The main reason is because we need to get our franchise signal caller in the next draft, pure and simple. 

And my favorite candidate right now as we speak is by far Jimmy Clausen.  I've made and effort not to miss a game this year and he is really impressive.  He is accurate and has a big arm to get the ball downfield.  He also can throw darts into tight spots.  In recent weeks he's shown how smart and patient he could be.  The guy is a very gifted athlete than can also move around the pocket and beat you with his legs when required.  IMO he is the complete package.  He also has the most experience of the Juniors and can play well outdoors in the cold.

See analysis after the jump...

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Unfortunately I doubt he will be there very long because I think he'll finish the season as the top rated QB (assuming he comes out early).  There are a lot of bottom dwellers but not all of them would go QB in round 1 (at least I hope not).  Here is the picture as of today:

CLE (1-7):  Cleveland's problems are not predominantly at the QB position.  They're running game really needs an injection and they need help on the Line and at TE.  They also need a lot of help on the Defensive side.  They have a LT and a center but the rest of their line is average.  They're running game is horrible.  Lewis averages a pedestrian 3.6y per carry and he gets the bulk of the work during games.   Plus they spent a #1 on a QB in 2007, I can't see them using their #1 on a QB but it could happen.  CLE is predominantly a power running team with a defensive minded coach, I see them drafting a RB in Round 1.

With their remaining schedule, I think they could pull off a few more wins such @KC and then OAK & Jax at home, which would give them a 4-12 season (and they own the tie breaker over us)

TEN (1-7):  The best thing that could happen to us is Vince Young on more than one front.  He has something to prove.  He sure as hell doesn't want them drafting a QB so I can see him having a bit of success.  I think they are going to run all over us in Week 10.  I doubt we have a chance to stop Chris Johnson.  I also see them winning at home against St-Louis.   I think Bud Adams won't draft a QB in Rd1, he wants to give Vince a chance so regardless what happens from now until the end of the year, I doubt they will draft a QB.  The other great think about Vince Young is if he does have success, I could see Bud Adams sending Jeff Fisher packing, which could be a great thing for us.

With their remaining schedule, I think they could pull off a few more wins such the Bills & Rams at home, which would bring them to 3-13 (the mirror opposite to last year).  I see the new coach coming in having to work with Vince Young for the first year.  They need another big run stuffing DT to replace Haynesworth but they need help in their secondary even worse.

OAK (2-6):  The Raiders are a mess.  I think that as much as I hate the Bills right now its still doesn't compare to the Raiders.  If I were a Raiders fan I would have given up already.  Any intelligent person would agree that the Raiders should be looking at QB in round 1 next year.  Russel is a horrible QB and doesn't deserve to start.  The funny thing is I think that Al Davis still likes him so it's anybodies guess at this point.

With their remaining schedule, I think they could pull off a few more wins such the KC & Was at home, which would bring them to 4-12.  I see them going with Carlos Dunlap (DE) but they remain a serious risk at QB IMO.

WAS (2-5):  Sadly, it's hard to see where they might win another game.  It's too bad because I think Campbell is better than his record.  I think he's not in the right system.  What Snider has done to his coach is despicable and he deserves to lose out on the season.  Unfortunately, they will be looking for a QB, I am almost certain of it.  The good news is Jason Campbell is probably going to be available on the FA market if he gets cut.

With their remaining schedule and the turmoil in coaching staff and the loss of Cooley, I think they Lose out.  They could be picking first overall in the draft at 2-14

 

RAMS (1-7): Steve Spagnuolo definitely has his work cut out for him.  They have not looked good at all this year.  They really need help on Defense and I highly doubt that Spag would use the first round selection on anything other than a defensive player.  In 3 of their past 4 games, Jackson was the leading rusher of the game and Donnie Avery was the leading receiver.  They currently rank 13 in Rushing offense and 24th in passing.  They Rank 28th against the run and 25th against the pass.  I see them going DT in Round 1.

With their remaining schedule I think they could win at least 1 or two more, games like SEA at home and possibly SF if they are playing the 2nd stringers (assuming they clinch their spot).  I project them finishing with a 2-14 record.

 

SEA (2-5):  They need a running game.  I also think they are feeling the departure of Holmgrem.

I see them winning 2-3 more games (TB & TEN at home for sure and maybe in St-Louis).  I think they finish at 4-12

 

BUCs have a real chance of going winless and KC will be lucky to finish with better than a 3-13 record.  Both teams are set at QB at least for next year that is.  I really can't see them taking a QB in round 1.

 

So this brings me to my title.  I gave up on the season after week 3, actually I gave up on this season last December when Mr.Wilson chose to keep Jauron but that's another story...  At this point it is crystal clear that we need major changes around here starting with all the management and coaches.  We also clearly need to draft a QB in Round 1.  It is beyond repair.  I would feel more than comfortable with Edwards as our backup or even have him start the year if the rookie is unable to win the start at first.  But there is no doubt in my mind that we need to spend our 1st rounder on a QB this year.  I know that we need a LT as well but our deficientcies are mainly at the QB level not Oline.  Insert any of the top 4-8 QBs in this league (with a real coordinator and offensive system) and we would be top 10 in many categories. 

BILLS (3-5):  Looking ahead, I cannot see how we can win another game this year.  Honestly, we really should be 1-7 because the Jets and Carolina games were totally given to us but that's besides the point.  Chris Johnson, MJD, Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams, Thomas Jones, Arrowhead Stadium, Brady, Micheal Turner and then Peyton Manning.  The only games that we remotely have a chance ion are the KC and maybe if Indy are resting their starters.  Still at this point the season is a useless loss and our only hope is to lose out and finish 3-13, which would put us within striking distance of Jimmy Clausen.  The best way to ensure our continued success is to keep Jauron until the end otherwise we might spark something and we could find ourselves winning a few more games, which would be disastrous because it would bring other potential teams into play.

 

Mock Draft

#1 TB (0-16) Gerald McCoy (DT)

#2 Was (2-14) Russel Okung (OT)

#3 StL (2-14) Ndamukong Suh (DT)

#4 Buf (3-13) Jimmy Clausen (QB)

#5 KC (3-13) Carlos Dunlap (DE)

#6 Ten (3-13) Taylor Mays (S)

#7 Cle (4-12) **

#8 Oak (4-12) **

Both Cleveland & Oakland could be in the QB market.

 

This post is about next year and I would prefer not arguing with the cool aid drinkers about the virtues of not giving up on the season.  Let's face it, we suck and most of us knew we would last year when Jauron was retained.  There really are no good option in FA to find a definite starter.  We could maybe find a caretaker or someone else's reject but all in all, our only real hope for next year is to lose out and be in a position to draft the top rated QB.

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I do not like Jimmy Clausen as a top 5 pick at all..........

personal bias and non-believer in his ability.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m afraid of what another Charlie Weiss QB at the pro level could mean. I don’t trust the guy.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy will burn out real quick.

Unrealistic expectations. You don’t want another Sanchez do you?

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by Farorefox on Nov 4, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I see the Rams

going after a QB in this draft. Bulger is on his last legs and some of the offensive pieces are in place as you stated. I think a good QB makes that team much more competitive right away than say a DT would.

by gatornation on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

Bulger is done. The Rams drafted an OT this past year, they’ll go after their franchise QB this year.

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by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not so sure. Their stats this year on offense aren’t as bad as people think and Bulger still has a few years left in him. Their D-Line stinks and given that Spag is all about D-Line pressure my money is on DT. If one of the two top DTs are available to him he’ll go DT. I would be willing to take a friendly wager with you K, the loser must write a post about the winner. Do you trust your instincts enough to wager with me?

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No because I don't care about the Rams

but from watching them, Bulger looks done. Plus check this out:

If you take Marc Bulger’s combined performance from 2007, 2008 and the first half of 2009 and then place it on a 16-game scale, his numbers aren’t pretty: 266-of-465 for 2,855 yards, 12 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. They’re a dead ringer for Jim Everett’s 1996 season in New Orleans: 267-of-464, 2,797 yards, 12 touchdowns and 16 interceptions. Why is that relevant? Mainly because Everett would take 75 more snaps as a professional quarterback after that season. Bulger is just about done, and his inability to produce against an awful pass defense was just a sign that he’s part of the problem in St. Louis, not the solution.

They need to move on. If they didn’t have so many other holes like DT, WR, OL and DB, I might make the wager. I expect the QB pick, as it’d be the right move, but a DT wouldn’t surprise me.

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by Kurupt on Nov 3, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a huge “foot in mouth” moment that sullied a pretty good career.

by LeClaireBill on Nov 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still can’t believe he did that.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bulger’s done. If the Rams don’t sign a FA, they’ll draft one. I’d even argue they’d take a WR before they took another OL guy.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… what does any of that have to do with Jauron?

I like Clausen as much as you do, but I don’t think we need to wish for the Bills to lose just to get him. There are other quarterbacks possibly available that I like just as much or more. More on that Thursday…

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think the Jauron headline was a hook

I have to admit, when I saw it (and the author), I was intrigued.

Interesting projections. Not sure I agree with them. Cleveland, KC, and Oakland all have a good chance of finishing with worse records than us. Depends on just how hopeless our offense looks after the bye. If it doesn’t improve though, the scenario you outline is possible.

On general principle I’m against drafting a QB that high. But if Edwards is a disaster the rest of the season, or takes another concussion, then I think we are in full desperation mode and have to bite the bullet. If we do go that route though we’d better go out and sign the new guy some extra protection.

by Applsoss on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit, when I saw it (and the author), I was intrigued.

hahaha I knew I’d get a few more pokes as a result. I pulled a Florio on you guys!

Actually the title does have meaning (see below)

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on just how hopeless our offense looks after the bye

Let it go… We are not going anywhere with this coordinator and these QBs behind this Oline. Losing Butler was just about the worse thing that could’ve happened to us

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Losing Butler was just about the worse thing that could’ve happened to us

Shouldn’t that be the best thing that could’ve happened to us . . . according to the logic of this post?

by Applsoss on Nov 3, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ZING.

I loved the performance of our O-line the first 3 games of the season and losing Butler was a travesty. We need to draft a tackle this year nice and high. I still like the Meredith pick up.

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by NeverendingOptimism on Nov 3, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… what does any of that have to do with Jauron?

Nothing really other that he gives us the best chance to lose out the season. If he gets canned and Bobby gets promoted to interim, he might actually get them fired up to win 1-2 extra games – And I would prefer not.

but I don’t think we need to wish for the Bills to lose just to get him.

Maybe not but I sure as hell am not willing to take that chance. Winning a few extra games this year means absolutely nothing in the greater scheme of things, it can only hurt us.

I’ve been following a few of them but Clausen has really changed my opinion. After watching his last 4 games, I am now a lot more convinced that he can be something special at the next level. Other than a weird release, he’s got it all. His ability to throw in anticipation is really what I like about him as well as his toughness, big arm, accuracy and intelligence. I don’t like the way he looks but that’s not important.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing really other that he gives us the best chance to lose out the season. If he gets canned and Bobby gets promoted to interim, he might actually get them fired up to win 1-2 extra games – And I would prefer not.

I figured that was your angle. Sorry, but no interim coach is going to do better than Jauron is.

Yeah – Clausen’s release is worrisome, but so was Philip Rivers’. I really like him. I kind of flip-flop back and forth between him and Locker, but if you’re asking me today, I like Locker just a hair more.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you mean the same player drafted in the 10th round by the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim?

The only way I will allow Locker to play in the NFL is if its with the Bills…….because if not…..Imma need more cake. :-(

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 3, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely have not seen Locker enough but just looking at their body of work over 3 years, Clausen seems like the better field manager, better completion %, better rating, better TD/INT ratio.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Locker, for the most part, faced a tougher Pac 10 slate. No victories against the Midshipmen. It’s unforntunate that even the Pac-10 schools have now started padding their schedules with cupcakes to beat up on. They were the last pure conference left.

by syrbillsfan on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s also won games despite the fact that UW might be one of the worst teams in that conference on a pure talent level, particularly on offense.

Locker does all of the little things well, particularly sensing the pass rush and making plays under duress. He’s a great leader. Has a good enough arm, obviously he’s a great athlete, and he has the most potential of any QB.

But I also love the fact that Clausen has performed well in every big game he’s had this year (and ND plays a tough schedule). He’s also tough, playing through injury, and obviously his stats are great. His pocket awareness is a notch below Locker’s and his ceiling isn’t as high, but I’ll take a clutch player at QB any day of the week.

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by Brian Galliford on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes that "Clutch" factor has been missing from this team for a while......

Last time I remember seeing it was the Raiders game last year. :-(

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by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d prefer a QB without much of an injury history.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldnt matter with our OL right now......

they’d develop a history in no time.

Pass the chocolate cake!

by norcaliangelsfan on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My gut tells me that Locker will end up graded higher and drafted higher at the end of the draft process. He’s got physical skills that Clausen won’t ever have, and he’s improving on the things that Clausen already does well. Just my opinion though.

by Der Jaeger on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NOT firing Jauron is the only thing that guarantees they DON’T lose out the rest of the season. If they can him and promote a coordinator…ugly. They could get the top pick in that case.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t underestimate April, I think he could stir things up a bit. Not saying he’s the long term answer but he’s got fire in the belly!

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so we can fake 5 punts a game…..no thanks!!

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by howedyhowe on Nov 4, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t be peevish if the Bills got either Locker or Casey Claussen’s little sister. Both have certain skill sets that I think will translate well.
As a Bills fan, I’d lean toward Locker for his Kelly-esque toughness, leadership, and NOT being pampered at an over rated college program.

by LeClaireBill on Nov 3, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't see...

Washington or St Louis passing on a franchise QB in this draft. They are both in dire need of one. The only way they pass on a QB is if they don’t think anyone is worthy of being picked that high. On top of that, I don’t see Cleveland having a better record than we will and they will definitely draft a QB. I highly doubt we’ll be in position to draft Locker or Claussen. Maybe that won’t be a bad thing. Maybe we get an Okung or Suh in the first round as they slide to us, and we get a QB in the 2nd round that could turn out better than the 1st round qb’s.

by CBATL32 on Nov 3, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think you're skewing the facts to allow us to get Clausen.

There’s no way Washington and St. Louis pass on Clausen and Locker.

Washington tried to get Sanchez, and clearly don’t like Campbell, who’s a UFA.

Spagnuolo is a defensive guy, but he was also part of the Giants, who were built around / with Eli Manning.

I think Clausen is a tremendous prospect and would be happy if the Bills drafted him. But if trends continue (the way current teams are playing and their records) there’s no way we are in a position to draft Clausen or Locker. If we go winless the rest of the way and the teams ahead of us each win a few games… maybe. But that’s a lot of “if’s.”

Just my opinion, but I’d start looking at Bradford, Tebow, and Ponder in terms of wanting a new QB.

by Der Jaeger on Nov 3, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am not skewing any facts I gave an opinion that you can disagree with.

I specifically said that WAS would be looking at QBs and I agree that there is a very good chance that they take one but they also need serious help on their line and most of the top coaches and GMs out there that could potentially accept the job in Washington, would most probably take a tackle because Jason Campbell is not that bad and he is certainly not the main problem with that offense.

I think you are dead wrong with Spag. Now it’s you that is skewing facts, Spag worked 7 years with Jim Johnson’s hard hitting, blitz happy defensive philosophy and he brought it to the Giants for 2 years. This guy is not happy with the RAMS defense and believe me that he wants to fix it ASAP. He is definitely going to draft a D-Lineman in the draft. If they could actually stop the run and create turnovers, they’d have won a few more games. Their offense is not that anemic.

BTW, I think Bradford will slip maybe even into Round 2, and I could see us taking him in round 2 and I would be happy

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 3, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not skewing facts...

… just relaying facts and history behind Washington and Spagnuolo.

Washington actively tried to move up to draft Sanchez. Safe to say that Snyder will attempt again this year, as it’s likely that they will finish much higher to the top of the draft order. Your write-up is logical, but your mock draft doesn’t reflect reality for Washington. Jason Campbell is a UFA at the end of the year and not coming back. With the second pick, and the choice of Clausen or Locker, there’s no way that Snyder passes. Especially with good draft prospects like Selvish Capers and Jason Fox available in the 2nd when Washington picks again.

Spagnuolo comes from a defensive philosophy, no argument. But he also comes organizational backgrounds that have filled DL needs outside the first round. The only Giant 1st Round DL is Kiwanuka. Umenyiora, Tuck, Robbins, Cofield, Bernard, Canty are all 2nd round or later picks. And Spagnuolo already has some workable pieces in Long, Carriker (if healthy) and Ryan. He has no workable pieces at QB- both teams he coached for (NYG and PHL) had upper-echelon QB’s. Spagnuolo knows that he needs a QB for stability. He also knows that a high 2nd round pick could fill DL needs but won’t do anything for his QB need. It’s a QB league. In your mock, there’s no way he passes on Locker or Clausen (whoever’s left from the WSH pick). STL could then even package their high 2nd and 3rd round picks to get back into the first and draft someone like Arthur Jones in the back half of the first round. They have one workable option similar for taking a DL first and QB second- Christian Ponder, but only if he declares.

I don’t see Bradford slipping unless he has a major injury issue with his repaired shoulder that we don’t know about yet- eg: a weak arm that gets exposed during the Combine position drills.

With you order, I could see:

TB: Suh
WSH: Locker
STL: Clausen
BUF: options

1: Take BPA, likely Russell Okung or Gerald McCoy, depending on who declares and the Bills’ draft board.

   2nd Round: target Christian Ponder if he declares (along with everyone else in the 2nd round), or work to get Tebow if the Bills are sold on him.

2: Take Bradford.

3: Trade down and try to position to take Bradford.

I can’t see us picking third overall. I see Buffalo winning at least two more games. I don’t see us with a worse record than Detroit (not in your order) or KC, especially considering we play them. and Cleveland is in complete disarray, more so than we are. I can see us finishing as low as 5th, but not 1st to 4th.

Also, are you considering strength of opponent? Even if we finish tied with KC and TEN, the lower pick goes to the team with the worse strength of schedule.

Again, I predict the Bills as having the ability to draft Clausen or Locker.

by Der Jaeger on Nov 4, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you on the WAS issue and I really do not with St-Louis. The RAMS have no hope if they are not able to stop the run. I cannot see Spag passing up on McCoy or Suh, this team is in total rebuild mode and they need to stabilize their trenches before focussing on another QB, I see them taking a QB in 2nd or 3rd round and starting Bulger next year. If they can fix their Run Defense, they could be a .500 team next year.

As for us winning a few more, well the main reason for my post was to suggest that we need to lose out, yes I said it, lose out. We need star players and we need to be positioned as high as possible in the draft to get them because there are so many crappy teams this year. 1 or 2 more wins means nothing but bad news for us.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t agree with losing out. But I can see your logic for STL, though I disagree. I still don’t think we’re in position to draft Clausen or Locker come draft day.

by Der Jaeger on Nov 4, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I want one of the top end QB prospects

But I also realize to have the possibility to draft one a lot has to go right for us. (I still can’t get use to saying that us losing out would be right) The more likely senario is we draft the best OT, DT or LB available at our first round pick. I think you get what you didn’t get in FA and the first round in the 2nd round, finally you look in the third round for a Ponder or a Lefevour. The only way I reach for a QB in the second round is for Snead. I think his strong arm would be an assest in the environment in WNY. He has had a down year this year after losing his top reciever and OT, but I still think he is a rare talent. As for Ponder, the more I watch him the more I like. He is accurate, has a good arm, and feels pressure well. He also anticipates route well. Lefevour is the last guy I like. I love his leadership and work ethic. I can’t find the article I read on him last week, but there was a story of how every night the coach would leave, Dan would still be working in the film room, and every morning he would come in, Dan would be in the weight room or working on footwork. I love a leader for a team who takes responsibility for his own actions by outworking everyone else. A guy like that other palyer will run throw a wall for.

by The Irishman on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just a friendly reminder...

The Detroit Lions are still considered an NFL team… barely. They’ll be pickin’ high as well, but obviously won’t be targeting a QB.

(And it cracks me up that we’ve all forgotten about them)

by BuffCrunch on Nov 4, 2009 1:20 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I did forget to insert them in my mock but only because I had set them aside as a team that didn’t need a QB, my bad.

I see them with a 3-13 record.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's progress for us Lions fans....to be forgotten rather than instantly put at the bottom of the heap.

Three and thirteen looks reasonable, although two and fourteen may be just as likely.

I think that the bottom feeders will win more games than everyone is projecting. I know that is hard to believe because those teams look absolutely dreadful. But lets face it, some of those so called elite teams have major holes which have already been exposed.

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 6, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

The first 9 picks in next years draft could be teams with 4-12 or worse records, that has to be an NFL record. It’s unbelievable how many garbage teams there are this year.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 8:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

A few notes

You said Clausen can beat you with his legs, have you been watching the same games I have? He has a turf toe injury that makes his scrambling downright painful to watch. He stumbles himself into about 2 sacks a game right now. Before his toe injury, he was only mobile while driving back and forth to the stadium. He only ran well when he was running for his life, and even then he was sporatic and tentative. I’m not bashing Clausen, but mobile he is not.
Don’t assume that any junior is gonna come out this year at this point. Also, I think it is unrealistic to predict teams’ final records at this point in the season. Do you really see the Bills losing out? You do realize that they don’t want to have the highest draft pick possible right? They will actually try to win games even if their coach appears not to be. They will win a few more games this year.

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Nov 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Maybe I didn’t express myself well enough because I was not suggesting that he can rush for good yardage but he does move around the pocket and bootleg to the outside very well. And he’s done it quite a few times in recent games where he gets to the outside and makes plays.

Don’t assume that any junior is gonna come out this year at this point

It is a pretty smart assumption actually. Many are now questioning Sam Bradford’s decision as well as Griesham. So the odds are that the top rated players at each position will come out.

Also, I think it is unrealistic to predict teams’ final records at this point in the season

Completely disagree with you. It’s not hard to look at their schedules and figure out which games they have a chance at. It is a prediction man, nothing more and nothing less. Relax.

Do you really see the Bills losing out?

I cannot see more than maybe 1 or 2 wins (KC & maybe Indy) but I think we are better off losing these two games.

You do realize that they don’t want to have the highest draft pick possible right?

I sure would like to understand your logic here? We are not going to finish in the top 3 so why would we want to finish 6-8th instead of 4th? Because we prefer being bottom dwellers and let other teams get the top picks? Because our owner is to cheap? I can understand the logic behind not being the 1st overall but 3-5 is a perfect spot when your team is as bad as our is and it’s critical to be in the top 5 if you are coveting a QB or LT. But hey, let’s go out and try to win 2-3 more (useless) games which would put us out of contention for the top players, I certainly do not want to give myself any shred of hope for next year!

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant the players don’t want the highest draft pick. They’re not in the locker room thinking, “well if we blow these last 8 games we could get a better player on the team to take one of our jobs away.” My point is that the players don’t want to lose and they are all fighting for jobs next year. Also, the only thing a higher draft pick guarantees is that we’ll pay them more. I’m not of the opinion that we should tank the season to pay more for potential

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Nov 4, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You are entitled to your opinion.

I am not one for trying to save Mr Wilson any money. He’s failed to deliver a competitive team for way too long now and we’ve done everything we can to show him our support.

A few years ago our FO thought that Paul Pozlusny was better than the hyped up Patrick Willis… Who do you think is more over paid? Poz or Willis?

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not for saving Ralph’s money either but it does affect the money we can spend on other players due to the salary cap. I never knew our FO thought Poz was better than Patrick Willis. The 49ers took him before our spot in the draft so we could not have drafted him if we wanted. If OBD said at the time that they thought Poz was better anyways, that was simply them trying to feel better about their own draft picks anyways.
And for the record, Ralph Wilson has not failed to deliver a competitive team. He’s failed at building a playoff team, yes. However, it has not been for a lack of trying for Ralph Wilson. If you think that he really would rather save money than field a playoff or championship caliber football team then I think you are the one who is dilusional.

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Nov 4, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And for the record, Ralph Wilson has not failed to deliver a competitive team

jpheff wrote a great post today called: The Back of Ralph Wilson’s Football Card and it’s a very good read that proves my point unless you consider a below .500 record after 50 years competitive?

then I think you are the one who is dilusional.

No clue why you are being insulting, I never insulted you did I? so please do not insult me either.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t intend to insult. And yes I do consider them competitive. I also did not like the post, nor do I like any posts which call out Ralph Wilson as a bad owner. Without him we wouldn’t have a team to complain about.

B-B-B-Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the Wyrd!"

by willgarr15 on Nov 6, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The reason you have a team to complain about is the great fan base, that’s why Wilson decided to come to Buffalo, the people.

I don’t deny that he has done many great things for the AFL and NFL and the fact that he kept the team in Buffalo is admirable but it also could be explained by the fact that going elsewhere would mean major $$ in a stadium, and given that he owes nothing with the Bills, the money is already quite good. Moving the team would mean going into debt for the “potential” of increased earnings. So yes he kept the team in buffalo but Buffalo has beeen very good to him and he is now rich beyond belief because of it. His $30,000 investment in 1960 is now worth $700M, not bad for 50 years! He is not a Saint, and he certainly has not been able to field competitive football teams, he is lucky to have faithful fans like you.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 7, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you really shouldnt call us cool aid drinkers keysh

because we dont think we’ll be 3-13. No one thinks we’re a good team this year but 3-13 is cool aid drinking on your dream of Jimmy Clausen. Maybe your the one not being realistic and dont want to accept the truth that we’ll be picking between 9 -13 like we do every year and not getting the QB you want because we’re 6-10 to 8-8

To me, the sucker is the person who runs when there’s trouble, especially when this situation was so easily foreshadowed….

by poz on Nov 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

My point was to lose out. Because wining any more games at this point is only detrimental. That being said, I don’t think we can win more than 2 more realistically. We were extremely lucky to win against the Jets and the Panthers, I’d go so far as to say that we didn’t deserve to win those games. And none of our future opponents are as bad. The reality is our Run defense is completely and utterly pathetic because our linebacking core is horrible – and that’s not going to change in the next 8 games. We are going up against the best power running teams in the league in the second half so our chances of success are extremely slim. Our offense can’t stay on the field and these power run teams will eat us alive. I am not the one drinking cool-aid my friend. I’ll admit that getting Clausen is a pipe dream.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We were extremely lucky to win against the Jets and the Panthers, I’d go so far as to say that we didn’t deserve to win those games

no one deserved to win that game :)

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by J2 on Nov 4, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that jets game i mean

I am so clever that sometimes I don’t understand a single word of what I am saying
Trent Edwards - Backup QB until furthur notice. Care to prove me wrong Trent?

by J2 on Nov 4, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They ran all over us! they deserved to win that game. Their Rookie QB had a total meltdown, they other parts of their team looked very good. Whereas we looked bad almost everywhere, especially on offense. They deserved to win it and we were lucky to win it.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 4, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the only way I see us getting a blue chip QB

(if there are any in this draft- i dont really know if there are) is if the new management does what the Jets do and dumps a bunch of picks to move up. Hey, you never know.

To me, the sucker is the person who runs when there’s trouble, especially when this situation was so easily foreshadowed….

by poz on Nov 5, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A good starting point is to lose out.

I have nothing left to say, these Bills have sucked me dry of any hope. Loosing to a team that completes 2-17 for 23y with 1 INT, that is beyond pitiful!

by keysh67 on Nov 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft

As bad as our front office is, they would never draft Clausen#1. If they do I’ll move to Toronto.

by Bob on Nov 4, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really like Taylor Mays

But if he will be the 2nd safety taken from the draft. Eric Berry will be the first.

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Nov 5, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm…interesting post. This sounds like Major League all over again! Tank the season on purpose!

Anyways, I just don’t see BFLO drafting a QB high in Round 1. I could see them maybe swinging a deal to move down in Round 1 and get another 2nd Round pick, then grab a DT, OLB, OT, and maybe try for LeFevour (sp?) or this kid from FSU in the third round. I really like the former – kid’s from CM, not California, knows how to play in the cold, seems kind of like a Rothelisberger type. Don’t know how accurate he is, which other than fearlessness I think is the biggest tool we need here in BFLO…the big arm and mobility aren’t nearly as important in my view.

And someone will invariably be a workout warrior at the Combine/Senior Bowl that flies up the draft boards, like Akili Smith did a few years ago, so we might get a crack at one of these guys we think is out of our reach right now.

by T McGee on Nov 5, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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