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"The reason is simple. Without a salary floor, there's no reason for low-earning teams to receive extra money from the high earners."

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I quit watching baseball 15 years ago because of the unfairness in spending...

……… please don’t let the NFL go down that road too.
Very sad.
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The Big Red Machine?
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 10, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The NFL will never end up like pro baseball because the difference between revenue and spending between football teams will never be as extreme as baseball.

MLB has 162 game seasons where the ticket revenue between the top and the bottom teams is way more than it could be in the NFL. And the main source of revenue in the NFL are the TV deals which dwarf the money that baseball teams get from TV.

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by kaisertown on Dec 11, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The TV point is incredibly valid.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2009 7:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If these changes go threw, the NFL as we know it is going to die, and a “soft cap” MLB like league will replace it. Expect all small market teams to be gone by 2020.

by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 11, 2009 1:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not if they keep the contract restrictions in place. A team will be able to hold onto a player for 6 years minimum before they have to spend huge money on them. Even then they can franchise a guy past 6 years. You could end up keeping a guy for his entire career and never giving him a long term contract other than the one he signed as a rookie.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True. And Kaiser’s TV point above is increadibly valid. That being said, you can understand my pessimism.

by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 11, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MLB doesn’t have the contract restrictions that the NFL does. They don’t have franchise player tags nor do they require players to be on the roster for 6 years without hitting UFA status.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They don’t have franchise player tags nor do they require players to be on the roster for 6 years without hitting UFA status.

Yeah but that part has more to do with the fact that the average MLB rookie is 26 years old and has spent 5 years in the minors before being called up then it has to do with player restrictions.

by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 11, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d guess the average age for a rookie in baseball is pretty similiar to that of football. Remember that half of baseball players get drafted out of high school. And college guys rarely spend five years in the minors and have any sort of major league career.

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by kaisertown on Dec 11, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok you might be right, but it stills seems to me that most players spend forever in the minors before being called up. Mind you that perception might have something with me being a Jays fan.

by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 11, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, as we’re seeing with the Sabres, arbitration isn’t the friendliest system for low budget teams trying to keep young players.

The way the NFL is set up, you get you’re rookies at very inexpensive salaries for the first 4 seasons and unless the CBA has something in there I don’t know about, RFAs in the 5th and 6th seasons should be very cheap as well.

I wonder how that RFA system will work. Currently, the lowest or 2nd lowest tender brings back a draft pick in the round the player was drafted if somebody signs him away. But that can’t possibly work if you’ve got a guy like Jason Campbell about to enter his 6th season. In theory, Washington could tender him at a million dollars and a team would have to give up their first rounder to sign him, while a player drafted in the 5th round could end up receiving a higher tender from a team because the 5th round compensation isn’t a deterent for teams to offer a contract.

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by kaisertown on Dec 11, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In the uncapped year only....

5th year is exclusive rights free agency and then 6th is RFA. They are UFAs after their 6th year.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a great quote Matt and it should read as good news to Bills fans. The quote implies that the only reason that revenue sharing is going away is that the richer owners won’t pay the smaller market teams money unless they are assured that it gets reinvested into the product that is the NFL. I have no long term concerns over the loss of the supplemental revenue sharing because I’m confident that it will find it’s way back into the new CBA and that the league won’t go more than 2-3 seasons without a new CBA and a new salary cap system.

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by kaisertown on Dec 11, 2009 1:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You got exactly what I got from that quote. The rich owners aren’t in the business of subsidizing. There’s still a huge pool of money that will be available to all teams plus their own operating revenue. The move to get rid of the 100M was always in place should the cap and floor go away.

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by MattRichWarren on Dec 11, 2009 7:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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