Jake Locker.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 5:31 PM EST
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I am impressed by his speed, arm and mechanics.
I think he is the best QB available in this draft.
So do a BUNCH OF PRO SCOUTS.
Look at the reviews after the Cal demolition.
There are many eyes on Jake, not just me.
If the Bills Draft him, I have a newfound hope in the Bills.
I think of him as the next Elway.
I have seen many pro scouts declaere he is a right handed steve young.
Are we all nuts?
There is something special here.
He is who we want.
I think we should draft him.
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Well I like the fact you wrote it in poem(ish form)
However I feel that your wrong about Locker. He’s a guy who has talent but definetly needs another year in school before coming out.
I do agree he needs another year
But I also believe he has by far the most upside of any of the QB’s in the draft. He has one thing that all great QB’s in the NFL has had. He has the ability to anticipate recievers coming open before they are. Look at P Manning, Brady Brees. They all have solid arm strength, but there best ability is there anticipation. WRs do not run open in the NFL like they do in college. The biggest problem with Trent is the same thing. He doesn’t throw to a reciever unless he sees them open. The problem is, in the NFL, if you see a reciever open, by the time the ball gets there he will be covered. The other thing Locker does really well is feel the pressure in the pocket.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I partially blame thge coaches for this
But it also something that can’t be completely taught. They can show him this on tape and pratic it, but you either have it or you do not.This is the reason you do not see Trent hit a lot of recievers in stride.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
sure
he could use another year,
but i think the Bradford factor will make him decide different.
I would rather have him now, where he sits on the bench for a year, rather than seeing him return to washington for another year and be too high a draft pick next year. He’s a top 10 pick now, one more good year at washington, he is a top 3 pick at very worst, we have a shot if he comes out this year where we will draft.
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There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
The Rumblings Scouting Staff – you’re going to hear that term a lot this off-season – currently has only Bradford ranked ahead of Locker. Clausen is a close third, and Mallett – who probably won’t come out – is in the neighborhood as well.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions
I still say that Mallett will come out because of the Bradford effect. I also think the possibility of a wage scale will bring him out also. Especially because a lot of scouts are calling him a top 20 pick.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Those 2 reasons are why
Locker will come out as well.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Injury problem. And yes, seriously. That should tell you a lot about the QB crop this year. No truly elite prospects, just like last year.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I guess not...
I’m even an Irish fan and I don’t really like Clausen… oh well! And sorry about that, I thought he had a knee injury to go along with the shoulder, had a brain fart…
We’ll get back to you in January and then throughout March and April, but I doubt he’ll grade out as high as Mallett even, who is marked significantly lower than the top three guys.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 13, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I want to know how 1 decent season makes you 1 of the best QB's avaialable in the draft.
Dude had a 48 percent completion percentage coming into this year. Admittedly he performed better under Sarkasian. However he’s stil not ready to play at the NFL level. Plus I find myself wondering about that baseball contract. The one he turned down in 2006 but accepted in 2008.
what other quarterback have you seen?
With 4.59 speed, perfect mechanics, and a strong arm? Last one I would say is Elway when he was young.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Leaf
Had nowhere close to the speed or elusiveness of Locker.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
look at the film.
you will see the elusiveness.
Jake has a sixth sense it seems to me, especially look at film from his freshman season when he depended upon his legs. he sure has some wheels.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
This has been against college competition. When a QB’s best asset is his wheels, it becomes less beneficial when the opposing DT runs a 4.7 40.
I have been huge on Locker, but i’m coming back down to earth a bit. I like Mallet the best right now.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 13, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that Locker is super elusive. The yards per carry thing is a flawed stat because they include sacks in those numbers for college players. So every time that Locker is tackled, they count it as part of his yards per carry. Locker got sacked 28 times this year and only had 84 actual non-sack carries, so those sacks really drag down his yards per totals.
I like Locker’s athletic ability, especially in a cold weather city like this where he might have to gut out some first downs in low scoring games. What I don’t consider to be an advantage for him is that Buffalo has a bad OL. I think drafting a QB who might play better behind a bad line isn’t a smart philosophy because the goal isn’t to find the best QB for this roster, it’s to find the QB who could win it all and build the roster around him. Buffalo needs to improve the OL and has a couple building blocks in place, so finding a mobile QB isn’t important to me.
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Ryan Leaf had a lot of attitude problems also
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Leaf
was a flat out alcoholic, which contributed to his problems.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
The completion percentage going into this year.
Says he plays better in a pro offense than a spread.
Jake hit aroung 60% this year in a pro style offense, also beat UCLA and Cal two ranked opponents, something Clausen couldn’t do.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
The completion percentage only tells me that Willingham was god awful as a coach
And that Sarkasian is slightly better.
And that Locker is better as a Junior than he was as a freshman. Clausen’s numbers have drastically improved from season to season too, so I think it has more to do with these kids struggling as 18 year old true freshman and improving with experience.
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except for those losses were despite clausen, not because of him.
by quantumuprising on Dec 14, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
oh yeah, and by the way, jimmy clausen beat jake locker =)
by quantumuprising on Dec 14, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
He probably has the worst supporting cast of any of the Qb prospects coming out.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
which only ads to his stock.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I love people posting about drafting Locker, Okung and Suh without somehow remembering that THEY’LL BE GONE BY THE TIME THE BILLS PICK SERIOUSLY
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
because locker is a junior.
We have a real shot at him where we will be drafting.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I bet.
He is the only QB taken in the top 10.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
The Rams need a new QB. So if you think he’s the only one gone in the top 10… HE’S GOING TO THE RAMS
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by UZ on Dec 14, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Why don’t you guys wait until season is over to continue this debate. In draft process a lot could change, I don’t know why go freak for draft in December. Relax guys.
because i think
Locker is the best pick for the Bills.
And I want to get as many on board as possible.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Locker
I LOVE Locker as a pro prospect and the fact that he’s not ready to start in the NFL means absolutely nothing to me. If the Bills draft a QB in the first round, I want him to sit for a year while the offensive line gets better and I’d be grooming him for 2011. Unfortunately, I see Locker in a Rams uniform…
I don't
I bet they draft defense.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
So no one has any concerns at all about Locker huh?
I mean the guy signed a baseball contract last offseason. He can’t crack 60 percent completion percentage. His teams have went what 5 and 17 the last 2 years.
as a matter of fact this article says everyhing I want to but you know…better
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/279846-jake-locker-overrated
You forget several things.
Football is the ultimate team game, Jake has no NFL worthy talent around him.
He is doing it on his own, beat 2 ranked opponents this year, on his talent.
Stats are only useful when you take them in context,
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There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t consider UCLA to be a ranked team. They went 3-6 in the Pac 10 this year and aren’t any better than middle of the road teams like Michigan St., Purdue, Michigan, Stanford or Boston College that Clausen has beaten the last couple seasons. Clausen actually won a game against a better UCLA team in LA a couple years ago as a true freshman. And while the USC game was something special, it’s important to remember that Locker and co. won that game 16-13 and did it with defense as much as anything else. If Matt Barkley isn’t hurt and starts that game, they probably roll over Washington without much difficulty.
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concerns
Of course there are concerns about a first round QB. Drafting a QB is all projection and that’s why so many are busts; it’s the hardest position to get right. But Locker’s physical talent is fairly unique and that makes him a gamble with a potential huge payoff. I’d be thrilled to get him.
I’m pretty sure everyone except Buffalo Kid has read and understands those things.
In fact I’m pretty sure everyone has TOLD Buffalo kid those things.
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by UZ on Dec 14, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
reminds me
of the heyward-bey infatuation…
he’s big, he’s fast, he’s dripping with pro ‘potential’… but crabtree nicks were pro ready.. didn’t blow up the combine, but they know how to get open, they know how to play football.
bradford is the only QB worthy of a first round pick, imo. elusive doesn’t count for much in the pro’s… accuracy and poise count for much more.
by dav630 on Dec 13, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love Bradford
He is my favorite QB coming out. But it is completely a different situation between Hayward-Bey and Locker. Bey is a track star Oakland is trying to turn into a WR. He never had to run any pro routes or learn how to read a defense on option routes. Locker has put up great numbers in a pro dtyle offense with little talent around him. He has already demostrated skills that traslate to the NFL, Bey never did.
by The Irishman on Dec 13, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
heyward-bay
is a different situation,
he was drafted too high because he was flat out fast.
the NFL scouts did not consider him the best WR, most scouts had crabtree ranked #1..
Locker is a different story, many NFL Scouts are on onboard.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
looks similar to me: couple eye popping measureables, production blamed on lack of surrounding talent… causes people to overlook the problems…
locker Could wind up developing.. don’t get me wrong.. but if bradford was not hurt locker would look like a Huge drop-off.
Bradford.
Won’t stand a chance with our line,
Locker can ay least roll up some yards on the ground.
Bradford needs a solid line to succeed, Locker doesn’t,
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
any 1st or 2nd year quarterback needs a solid line to succeed
elusive is one thing, running for your life is another.
And I don’t like the idea that we’re anticipating that when it’s time for locker to start, which should be in 2-3 seasons, our line will still stink. That smacks of defeatism.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Exactly, you draft a QB with the idea being that you can surround him with good players and build a championship caliber offense, not find the guy who might be able to do the most with the least.
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Since the hell when did Bradford get accuracy and poise?
All he’s got is broken bones and a career full of fail coming up.
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by UZ on Dec 14, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Bradford didn’t break any bones. He sprained his AC joint. He had a 35-minute surgery to fix it.
Yikes. Listen – you can preach all you want about not getting married to players, but I’d suggest avoiding the polar opposite, as well, and avoid divorcing them at this point as well.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Bradford’s injury history has nothing concerning in it for me. Locker had a season ending injury last year, Tebow had a concusion, guys get hurt. This isn’t Trent Edwards where Bradford has consistently missed time. If people want to say that Bradford is thin and has never proven that he can take a beating, then fine, that’s a valid point, but he’s not some injury mess. I think Tony Pike is a bigger injury risk than Bradford. And it’ll be interesting to see if anti-Bradford people want to draft him or take an injury risk at OT like Bruce Campbell.
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Did you watch any of the 2008 CFB Season?
Bradford’s accuracy was unreal. His mental apptitude is off the charts (read anything from the Sooner scouting staff with how quickly he picks concepts and new ideas up, without any reps).
If not for his leadership and competitiveness in trying to get back for the Red River Shootout, no one would be talking about his injury issues. I’ll take that any day.
Sam Bradford
Personally, I would go Bradford.
He has done it in college and his injury is exaggerated – the ‘operation’ was a 35mins procedure only.
I think he could be our Day1 starter unlike Locker and I like the fact that he’s a real gunslinger
However I would be even more radical. I would look to trade up again trading our R2 and R1’2011 for another pick between No12 and No15 (the draft value points favour the other team so the deal could be made) and draft a left tackle like Bryan Bulaga or Bruce Campbell.
The reasoning
1) There is little point in drafting a QB without a decent LT
2) There is almost no value in FA beyond McNeill who will be resigned by the Chargers
3) Looking at the future drafts, the top OT juniors such as Anthony Davis, Bulaga, Campbell, Joe Barksdale are all coming out this year and 2011 looks like a poor year at LT. We might as well grab our LT of the future a year early.
A starting QB in Bradford and LT could turn a 5-11 to a 11-5 season very very quickly with a new more talented and aggressive coaching regime as the cupboard is not really that bare in Buffalo if you look at our players subjectively
the reason I want Locker
is he can excel no matter how bad our line is….
He is supersized flutie, with a much better arm. If we get locker, we can use the rest of the draft picks on defense.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 13, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions
More Linemen!
I think we should draft a left tackle with our first round pick. Then, see what QBs are around in the second round, and if there’s no one worth taking then draft another low-risk player, either another offensive or defensive linemen, or even a linebacker. But if another high ranked QB is available, maybe like Tony Pike, then I think we should make a stab at him. I wouldn’t mind it if the Bills picked very conservatively, taking good solid players who may not wow but are career starters rather than ones who may or may not work out (Aaron Maybin). There is no point in drafting a guy who could be gone in a couple of years.
I personally wouldn't mind Taking McClain in the first
then trading back up into the very very early 2nd round for a guy like Jason Fox. Then seeing what QB’s are available in the third.
When I saw McClain run down Jeff Demps (world class sprinter and about 5’ 7’’) during the SEC Championship game, I knew this kid was special.
Put McClain in the middle and move Poz outside and all of a sudden, one of our weakest positions becomes one of the best in the NFL.
There are a lot of QB’s coming out this year.
by Slick Shifty on Dec 14, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
This. QB’s with pretty decent potential like LeFevour, Mallett, Pike and perhaps Snead will still be around in the 2nd round if the Bills go get McClain in the first. Plus getting McClain will instantly make the Defense much better against the run.
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by UZ on Dec 14, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
QB's
LeFevour is a lesser Tebow, Pike is actually how you described Bradford, Snead won’t come out because his junior year was a trainwreck, and Mallett won’t be available in the second round.
McClain
He’ll be gone by the time we pick. Also, don’t be deceived by him running down Demps. It had more to do with his angle than his speed, though he’s got very good speed for a LB. Demps had longer to run to get to the corner than McClain. And Demps is small, and someone the size of McClain will take him down with less contact than others.
With that said, he’s a to5-7 talent and won’t be available when we pick.
Some LBs slide, though. I still think it’s too soon to proclaim that any prospects, besides the VERY obvious ones (a.k.a. Suh) will be out of Buffalo’s reach.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'd agree
DT and QB’s tend to rise or get picked ahead of grade; LB’s and RB’s get picked lower. I still don’t think Suh, McCoy, McClain or Berry will be around.
I’m probably seeing the draft as the glass half empty. The more I tell myself now that we’re looking at Anthony Davis, etc., the happier I am on draft day!
A random Linebacking thought for the now irrelevant Jake Locker thread
Have you (anyone else as well) noticed Fewell using Schobel as a ILB rusher and also in a two point stance in the last few weeks? Along with your story on who’s can be traded, this got me thinking about a move from the Tampa 2 to either a 46 or 3-4.
Our smaller ends don’t really support the 46 unless we use Schobel and Maybin at WDE. But Schobel as a pass rushing 30 Front OLB could work.
I think Mitchell and Posluszny don’t have ideal take one strength at ILB, we don’t have true 5 Technique DE’s or a true NT, but Maybin and Schobel could be good OLB’s.
I’m not a 30 Front fan anyway, just a random thought.
Schobel would be pretty average in that 3-4 role, IMO. He’s not a great athlete, and I’m not certain he’d be down with the move after doing the same thing his entire career.
I’ve mentioned several times that I have no preference scheme-wise, but I think I’d rather see the team stick with a 4-3. We need a rebuild, but we don’t need a complete rebuild.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Claussen or McCoy to Redskins
I read this weekend that the Redskins are looking to draft a Q.B. in the first round, either Claussen or even Colt McCoy. Dan Snyder even flew to Texas to scout McCoy!
I laughed really hard when New England drafted Kevin O’Connell a couple years ago and laughed even harder when Oakland took Darius Heyward-Bey last year. Colt McCoy going to Washington in the top 5-10 would take the cake.
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I agree.
I would love to see Bradford,Claussen,Locker, and McCoy all be off the board before we pick. That would make our life a lot easier come time to pick.
Keep Dreaming
You can dream all you want but the bottom line is——-Locker hasn’t declared for the draft , and no matter how good he is, he isn’t going to be very good running for his life behind the OL that we have.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Locker announces he’s going back to UW for his senior season.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 14, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions
I just saw that
Wow. Didn’t see that coming.
If he continues to progress, and doesn’t get hurt, he’s a top 5 lock for the 2011 draft.
And yet we’ll still hear about him I’m sure.
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by UZ on Dec 14, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Close this thread.....
LOL.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 14, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions
In b4 Buffalo Kid starts talking about how good it will be when the bills draft locker in 2011.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
I think him coming back for his senior season.
Says he won’t be a Bill, even if we had the first draft pick.
With his baseball contract,
I think he is setting himself in a position to say where he wants to go aka Elway.
He’s made it clear he didn’t go for the money.
My bet is he didn’t want to play for the teams who would be in position to draft him this year.
My bet if he does anything in the Minors,
If he gets drafted by a team he doesn’t want to play for, he’ll just pull do what Elway did to the colts and say either trade him to someplace he’ll sign, or he’s playing baseball.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 14, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
If that includes the Bills
If he gets drafted by a team he doesn’t want to play for, he’ll just pull do what Elway did to the colts and say either trade him to someplace he’ll sign, or he’s playing baseball.
Then F$%# him
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I think he wants to play on the west coast in the NFL.
For people with strong Family ties,
They want to play as close to home as possible.
I would have loved for Locker to be on our team,
But it seems he is angling to end up as close to home as possible.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
I think if Seattle was surely drafting ahead of us.
He would have entered the drat.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Draft
one day I’ll use spellcheck, just not today.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
As Well As
The Browns and Rams.
I think Locker is doing what he can to stay on the West Coast as close to his home as is possible, by playing his senior season, it seems it is more important to him than the big payday.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think that's bogus.
How does he know Seattles going to be in a position to draft him next year? Or that they wouldn’t have traded up to get him this year?
There's several teams.
Who need QBs, ahead of Seattle in the current draft order.
If he comes out this year, he could end up there.
If he waits a year, he can use the Baseball contract as leverage.
To say where he goes.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Very Calculated.
Just like Elway.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
they don't even have a GM.
That’s how.
You can take your chances now and get paid, or play another season, and call the shots and possibly end up where you want.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. Why can’t people ever just jump to the simplest conclusion. That conclusion being that Locker understands that he is more likely to succeed in the NFL if he stays another season in college. All the evidence points to experience, especially in a pro style offense as one of the biggest factors of NFL success at the QB position. I think Locker stayed in school because he wants to get better.
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Totally agree
At the start of the year, Locker wasn’t even being discussed as a top prospect. Then he showed vast improvement through coaching from Sarkasian.
I imagine the thought went like this: “Hmm, if I stay another year, I’ll be way closer to operating like an NFL QB and not a college athlete….. Coach, I’ll stay!”
Very possible.
But the baseball contract makes me Leery it’s something else.
He could have cashed in this year with enough money for the rest of his life if he came out.
But it seems he has very strong ties to his family, he may just want to be as close to home as possible, that means alot to some people, much more than money.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he just likes playing baseball. And when he signed that baseball contract, he was coming off a broken finger and couldn’t have been further away from being a top NFL prospect. This is a guy who, while being a big time college recuit, has been a very mediocre draft prospect until Sarkisian was hired and Locker beat USC. I think the conclusion that Locker simply wants to continue to improve, enjoy college and set himself up for the best pro career possible is too obvious of a conclusion for me to consider that he might want to pull an Elway.
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Very Possible.
Buy Family ties can also be a reason.
And all the press leading up to his decision, made sure to tell us how important his parents were, into making his decision.
We won’t really know until the 2011 draft.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Trent Edwards had strong family ties. His sister moved to Buffalo to be with him.
Brady Quinn’s family bought a house in Cleveland.
If he’s picked in the top 5 don’t you think he’s got enough money to put up his entire family in Buffalo, Cleveland, or anywhere else on the East Coast he could end up?
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 16, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
How does he get to go to any better teams by waiting a year?
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
By playing in the Minors
He has a baseball contract with the California Angels, his signing bonus was $300,000.
He is a non scholarship player at Washington now so he’ll play some Minor League ball this year.
He can use that as leverage to have some say where he goes,
Where he can say to a team he doesn’t want to play for, trade me someplace I want to go, or I’m playing baseball and you just wasted your pick.
Elway did the same thing to the Colts, and Irsay finally caved and traded Elway to Denver.
I don’t think it’s so much he wants to play for a better team, but he might want to play for a West Coast team as close to where he grew up as possible.
That’s how MRW.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Use his baseball contract as leverage?
“Hey guys I’m gonna go not play football for a year so I get to pick what team I go to.” How’d that work out for Drew Henson?
How’d being away from football affect Mike Vick?
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Word is that Locker is staying in school b/c he heard the Bills wanted to draft him!
They are hard to play but not hard to beat.
- Mike Lombardi on the Buffalo Bills
And he doesn’t want to play for the Bills cuz he heard Aaron Maybin’s a bust and Poz is extremely overrated.
Bill Polian and AJ Smith are gone, so there's not the usual balance between "sane" and "others." Ralph has mentally checked out since 1994. It's a very dangerous time. The coalition for reason is extremely weak.
Not that.
Maybe he doesn’t want to be 2000-3500 miles away from his family.
Maybe he’d like to be closer for flights, because being an NFL player means alot of time at the facility of the team you play for most of the year.
The closer to where you’re family is, means easier flights to visit them when you have time off.
That means alot to some people who’s family just can’t be or don’t want to be uprooted to a new place.
Look at Cowher, he want’s a coaching job as close to his family as possible, because he doesn’t want to uproot him, he rather work the CBS show, where he is with them part of the week, rather then getting a huge payday and being away from them most of the time or having to uproot them someplace else.
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There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Lousy spelling.
should have said.
Look at Cowher, he want’s a coaching job as close to his family as possible, because he doesn’t want to uproot them, he would rather work the CBS show, where he is with them part of the week, rather then getting a huge payday and being away from them most of the time or having to uproot them, someplace else.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's also why I thought.
Cowher was was never a realistic coaching candidate.
If he thought Pittsburgh was too far from his family.
Buffalo is even farther.
I think the only place Cowher will coach is Carolina if they fire Fox, maybe Washington.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Cowher doesn’t have a family to uproot. His kids are older than we are (I’m assuming here). He wants to stay in Raleigh because he has children who have jobs in Raleigh. Locker’s only possibility of staying close enough to home to see his family during the NFL season is to be in Seattle.
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Cowher
Could get a huge payday.
So huge his children wouldn’t have to work another day in their life and be close yo wherever he landed.
Maybe they like where they are, and don’t want to be uprooted?
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Family
Extends beyond children,
Brothers, Sister, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins.
You can’t discount a tight knit family.
It definiately plays into some people’s career decisions, I guarantee it.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
And in terms of younger people.
Include parents if they had good ones.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Which I think.
Locker does have.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 15, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously. You hold the record for replying to your own comments.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 16, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
And he holds it like DiMaggio holds the consecutive games with a hit record. It’s unreachable.
I signed up for Second Life about a year ago. Back then my life was so great that I literally wanted a second one. In my Second Life I was also a paper salesman and I was also named Dwight. Absolutely everything was the same. Except I could fly. - Dwight Schrute
If it's an unreachable record.
The I only want to extend it.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I wan't to be.
The Joe Dimaggio of replying to my own posts! :)
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's what happens!
When there isn’t an edit option for your posts, if no additional posts have been made.
Im more used to message boards like VBulliten, where you can edit your posts if someone hasn’t posted after it.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 16, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
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