Bills miss out on golden opportunity to upset Patriots
I mentioned in yesterday's post-game recap that the Buffalo Bills' 17-10 home loss to the New England Patriots was very typical of a Bills loss. Playing a Patriots team that is a far, far cry from their glory year teams, Buffalo could only manage a sloppy 10 points in finding a way to fall just short, squandering one of their best chances yet of ending a six-year losing streak to this team.
On Saturday, I filled in for Kurupt in penning this week's "Keys to Victory" column. As such, you get to listen to me prattle on about how Buffalo lost because they didn't satisfy all of the criteria outlined in that particular post. Yes, K doesn't subject you to this type of post, which probably makes him a better person than me, but for one day, you'll have to deal with it. I don't vent very often.
Key 1: Find a way to get off the field defensively. The Bills fared well in this department for much of the game. Tom Brady and the Patriots converted just 5 of 12 third down opportunities on the day, limiting the Patriots' offensive exploits and holding Brady to a Fitzpatrick-esque stat line (11 of 23, 115 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT). In fact, the Bills did particularly well in this department in the fourth quarter, allowing only one Patriots first down in the final stanza.
Unfortunately, that first down came with two minutes remaining, on an eight-yard Brady-to-Wes Welker connection that put the game on ice for New England. Of course it happened then.
Key 2: Limit the big play. If I had to choose one game in the pre-season in which I would have guessed the Bills would not allow an opponent to gain 20 yards on a single play in said game, I certainly would not have chosen Week 15 against New England. That's exactly what happened on Sunday, however - the Bills did not allow their opponent to gain more than 20 yards on a single offensive play in the entire game. That's the first time that's happened this year, folks. New England's offense looked quite dysfunctional, obviously, but Buffalo deserves credit for at least giving themselves a chance to win at the end of the game by not allowing the Patriots any big plays offensively.
Key 3: Play mistake-free football offensively. After a thoroughly dominant opening drive in which the Bills did just about whatever they wanted offensively - how often have we said that in recent years? - a false start on the part of Andre Ramsey negated a Fred Jackson touchdown. Suddenly, that thoroughly dominant drive was a mere 3-0 lead, and all of Buffalo's momentum was gone.
Ryan Fitzpatrick can't go a full game without throwing a hideous interception directly to a defender; Jonathan Wilhite was the beneficiary of Fitzpatrick's terrible play this week. I also understand that not all of the Bills' 11 penalties (that yielded 124 yards) were not on offense, but the idea of "mistake-free football" was not present offensively or defensively on Sunday. Add in six sacks and two quarterbacks with ankle injuries, and yeah - Buffalo whiffed badly on this key, and it, more than any other factor, cost them the game.
Key 4: Get Lee Evans involved. Evans entered Sunday with 28 receptions for 397 yards in 11 career games against the Patriots. Although he did end up scoring his first career touchdown against the Patriots late in the fourth quarter in a last-ditch comeback attempt, Evans caught just three passes for 35 yards on the day. He did fare better than Terrell Owens, who caught just 2 passes for 20 yards in yet another awful showing from Buffalo's passing game.
Key 5: Give these Pats your best shot. Well, not so much. As mentioned, Buffalo got off to a really quick and dominant start in this game, running the ball down the Patriots' throats to the tune of an early field goal and netting a Paul Posluszny interception off of Brady on New England's first drive of the day. From that point on, however, it was the Buffalo Bills we've all come to know and love be completely apathetic towards. Jackson and Marshawn Lynch carried nine times on that opening drive; they'd only log 14 more carries in the remainder of the game. The penalties piled up, and so did New England's early lead (the Pats led 14-3 at halftime). When bad teams get down, they rarely find a way to reclaim a lead, and Buffalo's performance was par for the course. Effort? Sure. Urgency to win? I didn't see it.
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Now that the season is basically over
I was thinking about next year’s O-line, which will obviously be determined by an entire new regime. If they can resign Incognito (or he’s a RFA depending on the cap) where would that leave us?
LT – X
LG – Levitre
C – Wood (or Hangartner if Wood isn’t recovered)
RG – Incognito
RT – Butler
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Why is everyone so quick to toss Incognito right into next year’s starting lineup? Has he not been part of some of the league’s worst offensive lines throughout his career? Is he not a head case?
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 21, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Apparently because he is a self-proclaimed bad a$$ it must make it true. To bad it doesn’t seem to translate to the field, unless you think being a dirty player who gets a lot of dumb penalties equates to being good.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
It’s not even really about the demeanor, the head case or the dumb penalties for me. It’s the “hey, he’s good, let’s roll with him” attitude. It doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t think he’s that good a player, and that is more important than anything.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 21, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, but IMO his appeal can't be linked to performance, so what is it?
Many here want a change in attitude from what Jauron brought to the team (me included), but Richie is not what I had in mind. IMO, the Bills job description should read, “A$$holes need not apply”
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He's a mistake-filled headcase
The penalties aren’t just for being crazy either. I’ve seen him rack up penalties (and take away Steven Jackson’s fantasy points) all season. Sure, he’s probably better than the Kendall Simmons and Kirk Chambers of the world, but I agree that he’s not really that good of a player. Having talent is one thing, having talent and consistently not playing up to it is another….
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With his reputation, Incognito gets called for penalties that other guys might get away with too. It’s like basketball and technical fouls. Guys with good reputations get better calls and guys like Incognito get a flag thrown on every questionable play while the ref keeps an extra close eye on him.
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You reap what you sow.....I don't feel bad for him
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Me neither, I was trying to say that the penalties are a bad thing and always going to be there. I was trying to throw another log on the fire. I’d rather not bring Incognito back.
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LT – Bell (or 1st round prospect) what 1st round T in last year’s draft was better (other than Oher)?
LG- Levitre
C – Wood (or Hangartner if Wood isn’t recovered)
RG – Butler (though he did seem solid enough in his short stint at RT)
RT – Bryan Bulaga / 2nd Round RT prospect
*possibly keep Incognito on as a backup, seeing as we need all the possible depth we can get.
*Hangartner isn’t terrible at C but it seems like Levitre / full healed Wood / Butler would make for a fantastic interior. Retain Hang as primary back-up at C and interior.
by NordicBillsfan on Dec 21, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Was this Brady's worst professional performance?
It’s rather diheartening that, including last season, the Bills have had EVERY opportunity to string together a number of wins against this team. They haven’t and for that, we may need to reassess just how bad things are.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions
No.
He’s played even worse recently. But according to Dierdorf he’s improving week in and week out so he’s back!
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
He’s has a worse stat-line than 11 for 23 @ 115 yrds?!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Stat wise probably not
But there was a game or two that he handed to the opposition.
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
He has had a few
10/07/01 @Miami: 12 of 24 for 86 yards and no TD’s/Int’s
10/13/02 vs GB: 24 of 44 for 183 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT’s
12/16/02 @Tenn: 14 of 29 for 134 yards and 1 INT
9/7/03 @Buff: 14 of 28 for 123 yards and 4 INT’s
10/12/03 vs NYG: 8 for 21 for 112 yards and no TD/INT
11/27/05 @KC: 22 for 40, 248 yards 1 TD and 4 INT’s
11/5/06 vs Indy: 20 of 35 for 201 yards and 4 INT’s
12/10/06 @Miami: 12 for 25 for 78 yards, no TD/INT
12/16/07 vs NYJ: 14 for 27, 140 yards, 1 INT
The Pats were 2-7 in those games, winning both games against the Jersey teams.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
one thing is evident (to me)
The only thing that really changed after DJ was let go was the demeanor of the HC. Fewell is more animated, but, the decision making and the basic performance of the team is the same. For example, as you so aptly mentioned, we ran the ball down their throats the first drive. Wilfolk wasn’t in there. Yet, for some inexplicable reason, we only run the ball 14 more times, opting instead to unleash our vaulted passing attack. The result? Well, never mind. I hear someone somewhere beating a dead horse.
IMO offering the job to Fewell will foster more of the same. The team needs a totally new direction (and directors). Never was “cleaning house” more appropriate and necessary.
by fansince60 on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't think any passing attack run by Fitzpatrick can be described as vaunted.
Unless you actually meant vaulted as a description of Fitz’s deep passes.
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
sorry typo
I meant vaunted and meant it as sarcasm. I guess, though, when you put it that way, either could apply.
You can change the coach all you want, but at the end of the day, it’s still the same @#$%%& QBs tossing the same poor footballs. What’s so maddening is how great Owens and Evans could be with even average QB-play.
I know K brought up the point about discussing a possible Evans trade but who in their right mind would take on his salary when he’s shown VERY little recently?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
A lot of that contract has already been paid and it’s actually a pretty reasonable contract for a team to take on.
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Evans
By the way, I’m not saying I want to trade Evans, but I would like the team to discuss it and investigate it….
I know K brought up the point about discussing a possible Evans trade but who in their right mind would take on his salary when he’s shown VERY little recently?
Kaiser is right. A lot has already been paid. His remaining salary is as follows:
2010: $5.4 million (+ $3 million roster bonus), 2011-2012: $3.025 million (+ $1 million roster bonuses
That’s quite good for a WR who could really help out an offense. The problem I see with finding a partner is whether there will be a team willing to give up a high pick or picks for a soon to be 29 year old WR, who may only be a good overall WR. And I’m not sure there are too many teams that would give up a 1st round pick for him, because I wouldn’t take much less than that. Maybe a Baltimore, Chicago, Jacksonville, Carolina, St Louis would consider it, although the Bears/Panthers don’t have 1st round picks and St. Louis is rebuilding not adding vets. Two of the teams that make the most sense, Miami and the Jets, would really need to blow us away to allow a trade within the division….It’d be tough to trade him, but simply because I don’t think it’ll be easy to find a partner for a 29 year old WR that hasn’t proven to be much more than the great deep threat that he is (or was).
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There could be other good WRs available via trade this offseason like Anquan Boldin. Guys like Braylon Edwards, Antonio Bryant or even Randy Moss could become available too. There’s probably more than that.
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Pretty much
I like Antonio Bryant and think he’d be a nice addition. Too bad it won’t happen.
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Yeah, it’ll be awesome watching the Bills start Hardy, Johnson or some Bryant Johnson type FA while the Dolphins go out and trade for some big name player.
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I can't think of any reason any FA WR would sign for the Bills
Unless the Bills are the only ones who want them…..OK, I thought of one :-)
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Right now, I’m sure you’re right. But if they bring in a new set of vet/rookie QBs, a vet or 2 for the line, and a respected OC? Might have a shot there. It’s not simply the fact that it’s Buffalo, it’s that they don’t have any ways to get the ball to the WR right now.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Dec 22, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
It looked like we could run the ball all day and continue to produce
so we decide to give it to one of the least accurate starting QB’s is the league and tell him to pass pass pass
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You can only coach the talent you have
We have known all along that the problem is the front office
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Freddie's running well
BLASPHEMY!!! Put the ball in Fitz’s hands i say!
by NordicBillsfan on Dec 21, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Maybin's offside penalty on kickoff
speaks volumes about why he isn’t playing. Perfectly executed, element of surprise, and he screws it up due to complete inattention to detail. How hard is it to keep your foot behind the line?
“Of course it happened then”… Good teams coast against bad teams knowing they can turn it on when they have to. You see it especially in basketball, but it’s common in football and hockey. The Pats did it in the opening game too. It’s not a matter of learning how to win.
Perfectly executed? Obviously not. Element of surprise? If so, the Patriots are just flat-out dumb.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 21, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Perfectly executed by ten out of eleven Bills on the field.
by Rick A on Dec 21, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No one ever expects the Spanish onside kick at the end of the game down by touchdown!
And the Bills were just lucky that Aiken(?) made a horrible play on the ball.
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
a horrible play by the other team is usually the only reason you recover an onside kick, so you have to be PERFECT.
yet another awful play by the special teams unit.
by quantumuprising on Dec 21, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
LOL. Well if you’re not perfect, you’re obviously awful.
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 21, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Aiken put that ball on the ground and the Bills only had a shot at recovering it because the Pats screwed up.
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Depressing aspect of Maybin's
bonehead play was that he was right next to the kicker! He wasn’t 20 yards away on the sideline but he could have reached out and touched Lindell. Not even the most fervent and hopeful Maybin fans can alibi this travesty. Playing on the kickoff team next to the kicker is not a skill that demands years of NFL experience; he does not have to mature into his body to stay behind the kicker.
He was probably super anxious. I think it’s so silly to disect how and why he was offsides. He was offsides. I’m sure Steve Tasker was offsides at one point in his stellar career.
I said his was a big reason they lost the game (in reality, it was only icing on the gutters and I recind my wrath), but it isn’t something that’s so horrible he’s beyond capable as a player now.
I really think more people here should look at Mario Williams’ and Dwight Freeney’s rookie seasons. Perspective works wonders to assuage the fears of many a knee-jerker.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
but it is so much fun to jerk your......wait.......never mind :-)
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If you truly felt that way, you’d have found another team to root for 5 years ago.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Now if you want to talk poor play, the QB situation on this team is a good place to lay your hat.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
as much of a boneheaded move Maybin's offsides was...
…does anyone really expect that the Bills passing attack would drive down the field in the closing minute and tie the game? As thouroughly disappointed I am with the Maybin selection this year, this play had no impact on the outcome of the game, except sparing us from enduring a abbreviated series of questionable play calls and probable last chance interception.
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No. I fully expected them to fart the game away if they got posession of that kick.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
fart the game away
LOL. That expression pretty much sums up the entire Bills season.
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Seems to fit our Bills very well
Following on from ‘fart’ being used to refer to an irritating or foolish person, the verb phrase ‘fart around’, meaning to spend time foolishly or aimlessly is also utilised. Again this can be in a humorous attempt at a term of endearment, or as an insult.1 The implication is that the person is being a ‘fart’, and otherwise is wasting time, or achieving little.
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"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
He was ridiculed left and right by everyone. Everyone. He wasn’t living up to his selection. Which is hilarious because if the best your player ever gave you was his first year, your team would be in a WHOLE lot of trouble in the long run.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
4.5 sacks. Same difference. He played through a foot injury all season too. I think that’s why he didn’t have a big year statistically.
Dwight Freeney, on the other hand, had 13 sacks as a rookie including his career high 46 tackles and 9 forced fumbles. So, not really sure what Freeney is doing on that list.
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Yeah, I messed up. I didn’t mean to mention Freeney. I can’t even remember who I meant to mention. Long of the short, of which we been over before: he deserves to be evaluated long-term. This is hardly long-term.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Long, maybe?
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I wish I could remember who said this… “someone in the know” was saying that the kicker approaches the ball differently on an onside kick and therefore every other player has to make double sure they aren’t offsides since it’s not the same as a normal kick.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
If Maybin wasn't offsides
It looked like another couple guys could have been called.
Lindell spent way too long dancing up to the ball. I thought that was the biggest problem, though Maybin was pretty far offsides. Just typical Bills’ mistakes.
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Yeah, my comment in the game thread never made it to press.
I couldn’t believe how slowly he got to the ball. Maybin even hesitated once or twice and was not alone.
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Replay
Watching the game at a local sports bar (Beef O Brady’s) I actually had a good time with some of the Pats fans. Normally the Pats fans are a obnoxiously over bearing not to mention rude. We all came to the same conclusion watching yesterday’s game——it was like watching a replay of games past. We actually chuckled together as the Bills continued to make stupid penalties—including the motion that wiped out a TD, the 2 pass interference calls that led to the Pats TD’s, Maybins biggest play as a Bill, Reed’s dropped pass inside the 5 and of course the missed FG! There are more but why as some one mentioned beat a dead horse…
I will say the Bills did play hard but with the O-line reduced to the wounded in a Mash Unit there was no way for them to mount an offensive attack. At least they are not running for the bus——they are out manned and out gunned!!!
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someone has got to change this culture of losing we got going on here......
its getting pathetic……although Im amazed at how week in and week out The Buffalo Bills manage to get every team they play to play on the same craptastic level as they do…thats something worth mentioning.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 21, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions
If you were a legit NFL team,
would you take the Bills seriously? I am still not sure how we won 5 games???? Good thing we don’t play the Panthers or the Bucs next week. I am not sure we could beat them.
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
Somehow, someway the Bills find a way to bring an opponent down to their level. Does this quality make the Bills legit? If they had some semblance of an offensive line then yes, they are legit. They are better than Tampa Bay, but definitely not a Delhomme-less Panthers.
The Indy game will be very interesting as Buffalo will probably be playing mostly against scrubs. Will Jim Caldwell treat the regular season finale as a preseason game and have his starters play a series or two? Will the Bills hang tough against the first team and embarrass themselves against the scrubs?
I’m getting ahead of myself, there’s a potential debacle next week in Atlanta to get through first.
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The Bucs seem to have their QB of the future
Can’t say the same for the Bills. By legit, I meant that the Bills have a legit shot at the playoffs. When is the last time the Bills beat a team that will make the playoffs?
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
I can’t think back that far…I think that the last time the Bills beat a playoff contender was when Woodrow Wilson was President.
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They beat Miami this year. Is Miami not a legit playoff contendor?
They beat the Chargers and Broncos last year. The Chargers made the playoffs after that.
It was when Bush was president… the second one.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
We shall see......
Is Miami not a legit playoff contendor?
I say no
"The Bills have no playoff aspirations" – Dan Dierdorf
A playoff contender? Yes.
A legit one? As legit as Fitzpatrick is a starting QB in the NFL.
by twoeightnine on Dec 22, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Ok…you caught be exaggerating the situation, but it really feels like the Bills haven’t beaten a quality opponent in decades.
But just for the record:
- Miami and about 5 other 7-7 teams are hoping that one of the two teams currently positioned for a wild card berth stumble. It could happen and Miami is better positioned than most of the other .500 clubs, but playoff contender in this field has lost some of it’s panache…like a once exclusive platinum card, that is now given to anyone with a pulse.
- San Diego and Denver both finished 2008 with 8-8 records. If memory serves me correctly, the Bills did not beat an opponent with a winning record last year. Normally to be a playoff contender means that you have a winning record—last year was an anomaly.
Perhaps the telling statistic is that the Bills may not beat one single winning team this year. So replace “playoff contender” with “winning team” and my earlier statement is correct, ignoring the obvious joke about Wilson and the exaggerated time frame.
To be more precise—under the Jauron/Fewell era—the Bills have beaten exactly 2 teams that had finished the year with a winning record: the 10-6 Jets in 2006 and the 9-7 Redskins in 2007. That’s TWO wins against +.500 clubs in nearly four years. I was at that ugly Jets game and it was not a victory to beat ones chest over…as are the victories against equal or lesser competition these past few years.
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I am on board with you. I just wanted to point out we beat the Chargers and Broncos again. :-) Three Trent Edwards top performances have come against the AFC West. Anyone wanna argue that much?
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
QB of the future?
Yes, 1st rounder Josh Freeman appears to be a QB you can build a team around. And yes, the Bills do not possess any QB that you’d want to build around. Actually, they don’t even possess a QB you’d want as a back-up.
But, I’d be careful about calling Freeman the QB of the future…give the guy another year or two. Oh what do I care, it’s the Buc’s….sure call him the future. We’ve been burned too much in Buffalo with this future QB crap.
"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban
True that!
We’ve been burned too much in Buffalo with this future QB crap.
Is there currently another team in the NFL who has a longer run without a legit NFL QB?
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the Bears had quite the run........
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 21, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Still might have it going....
Cutler looks broken
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they need WR help bad...........
they have NONE whatsoever………..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 21, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree
That doesn’t excuse some of the absolutely putrid throws Cutler has made this year. It’s almost a guarantee that he’ll throw 2-3 picks a game.
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thats the opposite of Trent.......
the Gun-Slinger Brett Favre mentality………..difference between Cutler and Favre this year by far is the surronding talent…..you put Cutler on the Vikings and Favre on the Bears……I would bet a lot of money they would swap stat lines as well……..
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by norcaliangelsfan on Dec 21, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
the mentality is, the results aren't
let’s not forget Mr. Edwards led the league in interceptions at the time of his injury.
Jonathan Stupar won the Heisman…while playing in the NFL!
Cutler had Brandon Marshall last year and still couldn’t get them to the playoffs, so the talent argument is null … Cutler is a head case right now … talent around him or not … I wouldn’t touch him with a 10-ft. pole.
The Broncos had one of the worst Defenses in the league last year
That’s the reason they didn’t play in January, not Cutler.
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It’s not Cutler’s fault they couldn’t make the playoffs though. He had that team at 8-5 until the defense completely collapsed down the stretch and gave up 112 points in the last 3 games. The Broncos had the 3rd worst defense in the league last year giving up 28 points per game. The fact that he led that team to 8 wins is pretty impressive.
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Browns and Bears.
When I made this shirt http://twoeightnine.spreadshirt.com/franchise-quarterbacks-buffalo-I10201176 I also drew up one for both of those teams. The lists were so long that the font would have been 1/3 the size. The Bears have started some awful QBs for a game or two every year since McMahon.
by twoeightnine on Dec 21, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
When is the last time the Bills beat a team that will make the playoffs?
San Diego last year. Before that they beat a 10-6 wildcard Jets team in 2006. Pathetic.
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Plus
SD wasn’t playing well at all when we beat them last year….
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Yeah, they were 3-3, coming off a big win over New England and traveling east for a 1:00 game. They only went 8-8 last year and were 4-8 at one point.
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lets hope for the Phins to win the division then... there will be another one.
pathetic… one a year (maybe) Its just nbot fair. haha
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I think Caldwell could start his practice squad and still go in favored against the Bills. That being said, if anyone has tickets to the game that they don’t want to use let me know. Though, if in the endzone, i’ll pass.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
You’re probably right…on coaching alone. Besides, aren’t a few of the Bills starters practice squad players anyway?
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Yes
aren’t a few of the Bills starters practice squad players anyway?
If by few, you mean about half :-)
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The Bills have 5 wins
because there are so many other awful teams in the league. Misery loves company.
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Changes haven't really had a big impact
new head coach
new offensive coordinator
…….yet how has this team looked much different from those of the past few years?
The two constants? Poor QB play and a horrendous offensive line. A good QB is CRUCIAL, not just "important, and the same can be said even more about the offensive line. Without solid blocking you are going nowhere. In today’s game you have to have both a good QB and good line to win consistently. We have neither, of course.
Take a look at the division-leaders and their QBs: PATRIOTS (Brady), COLTS (P. Manning) CHARGERS (Rivers), BENGALS (Palmer), EAGLES- (McNabb) VIKINGS – (Favre), SAINTS, – (Drees) CARDINALS- (Warner)
On everyone of those teams is a QB who ranges from being good-to-outstanding. These banged-up and undersized defenses we’ve had have played their hearts out the past few years, almost for nothing…..because we continue to suck at QB and OL. This should be almost our total priority, roster-wise, in the off-season.
Hence Levitre and Wood this year
But the flaw was that they could come in immediately and make an impact. In a way they have, when compared with the rest of line (except Butler in the few nanoseconds he played). A talented team—a playoff contender—would work these guys in after they “win” the job against legitimate competition. For the Bills, after tag football and a preseason pretend game their rookies are simply anointed as starters and are also expected to be the saviors. This is a strategy built upon hope, wishful thinking and pixie dust.
I believe that you still draft your future lineman, but you also need some veteran talent to fill in until these guys are ready, as well as to aid in their development. Who are these young guys learning from? Sean Kugler? Is he communicating to them in the huddle? They are certainly not getting any pearls of wisdom from their diaper-clad colleagues.
The future FO personnel and coaches must take a hard look at the offensive line and bring in some veterans…and not practice roster rejects or malcontents from losing teams.
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I think Simmons was a good pickup in that regard. Hang, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Those guys were picked up as starters, though. The rookies didn’t really compete with any vets.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Dec 22, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I’m saying. Hangartner and Simmons were picked up to stabilize rocky positions. They have done that.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
The team really feels like an expansion team. They’re relying on other teams’ waste and asking rookies to do too much without much veteran leadership. The one area this last bit hasn’t happened: WR.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions
Well hell they have 16 guys on IR, man. At this point in the year there aren’t 16 really good players on the street waiting for a phone call. They have got guys on this squad that don’t belong on an opening day roster in the league.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 22, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
No Woolfork or Ty Warren
The Bills played the Patriots without two of their stud defensive lineman, and still cannot put up points offensively – I did not watch the game, but did see some highlights. They gave up 8 sacks, is that correct. And a fill-in for Warren had 3 sacks alone. More evidence of the PAtriots having depth and players who make play’s, while the Bills starters cannot even make plays to win.
Wait a minute
I could have been writing follow up posts to my Keys?!?! I would have loved to gloat about getting some right while the Bills got them wrong!!!
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 21, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
How about me?????
Can I write whatever I want ;-) Bwhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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I said “whenever,” not “whatever.” :)
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