AP: Bills DE Schobel considering retirement
by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2009 3:13 PM EST
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John Wawrow of the Associated Press is reporting that Buffalo Bills defensive end Aaron Schobel is considering retirement. The report quotes Schobel as follows:
"I don't know my future really, what I'm going to do," Schobel told two reporters, including The Associated Press, following practice Wednesday.
Wawrow also notes that Schobel fears he has "slowed down" in his ninth season out of TCU. He'll be 33 at the start of the 2010 season, and at that point will be in the fourth year of a 7-year, $50 million deal he signed in August of 2007.
Schobel has 7 sacks this season after missing the majority of the 2008 season with a Lisfranc foot injury. His 75 career sacks are second in Bills team history, behind Hall of Fame end Bruce Smith.
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Very nice brian. I just saw it in my news feed at work and you got it up before i even logged into rumblings.
IMO, this would be a pretty big loss for the defense and might make drafting another DE a mid-round priority
by BuffaloBrewed on Dec 23, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought they should have prepared for this last year, but looking back at the draft, I don’t fault their logic.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They did try to prepare for this last year. What do you think Maybin is?
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An OLB????? Hope so anyway :-)
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that maybin is better suited for a 3-4 OLB (coincidently a scheme that I’m hoping we switch back to this summer), but the drafted him to be an RE long term for this team. AKA, Schobel’s replacement.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know......and he could still work out as a DE, but this is the same FO that
thought Walker could play LT. We will know soon enough…..errrrrr next season.
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking it was the coaching staff that thought that of Walker as an LT. You know, DJ and all.
But Maybin still has a potential at both DE and OLB.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Orakpo would have made this a non-issue
Just saying
It's not all that bad.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Dec 23, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it wouldn't take long for Oroidpoo's name to come up
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, how clever, pretending that Orakpo would have been a good DE because he’s playing a different position well!
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by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is seeing time with his hand on the ground, as I saw on MNF… we whiffed again thats all. It was expected… just cross your fingers that a real GM doesn’t catch some disease that causes him to lose the ability to rate talent at an NFL level
It's not all that bad.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Dec 23, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Monday night when he only made one tackle
that came in 3rd quarter after the game was out of reach and his team got dominated?
It’s really, really, simple. Orakpo is having a much, much better year than Maybin and that is a fact. What is not a fact is that he would be having the same season here in Buffalo, that he’d even be on the field here in Buffalo or that Maybin will never get it and is a complete bust already. The only other fact is that HE IS NOT A BUFFALO BILL AND ALL THE WHINING ABOUT IT IS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE THAT. There are no do-overs in the NFL. (Unless you’re punting in Dallas.) Can we please just drop it once and for all?
by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Thank you. If I could rec from my phone, I would rec the crap out of this.
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Dec 23, 2009 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Taken care of man
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by WABillsfan on Dec 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In before the anti-maybin crowd starts crying about this. Rec’d hard.
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by UZ on Dec 24, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd...
Orakpo, Ngata…sick of it…go play Madden if you want to change the Bills draft, that is what I do…Seriously though:
Can we please just drop it once and for all?
by NorCal BillsFan on Dec 24, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
also. great line on the do-overs.
by neverbeentobuffalo on Dec 24, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 23, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CBF. I meant taking a 2nd DEin that draft.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you fit him in on the roster though? I don’t think it was very realistic that they could have cut Kelsay or Denney or given up on Ellis to fit a different 5th DE on the roster. They had a lot of other holes that went unfilled as well.
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by kaisertown on Dec 23, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that taking two DE’s in last year’s draft would have been a mistake though. Just like taking 3 CB’s was (even though one is now a FS). We have too many spots to fill to concentrate on a single positions.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't blame him.
by twoeightnine on Dec 23, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nail on head
He’s been a guy that isn’t about stretching out his career either. No other team will pick up his contract, and this team is ready for yet another overhaul during his time here.
The only other thing I see happening is that he “retires” and then shows up on New England or some crap for one shot at glory, even though I don’t think Schobel is glory driven
It's not all that bad.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Dec 23, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that would get Maybin on the field a lot more....
Not sure if that just terrifies me, or makes me crap my pants, AND want to hide under the bed.
As my mother once said, common sense isn't as common as it should be, I'm looking at you Ralph, get the Front Office in order, THEN worry about who your HC is....
by WABillsfan on Dec 23, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not a guarantee. Kelsay and Denney could still be around.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Release him and let him go to a contender to end his career, he’s earned that.
He’s 33, played his tail off, made pro bowls, and has never been in a playoff game. Sure he makes millions, but Schobel never came off as the guy who did it for the money.
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by BillsNYC on Dec 23, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I unfortunatly have to agree. I’d rather see him on a contender then on the Bills if he thinks that he still has some left in the tank. But if he thinks that he’s done, then by all means, retire.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed......can't blame him for not wanting to go through another rebuilding process......let him go.
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just as long as he doesn’t go to the Pats… or Fins.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd puke if he became an AFCE rival
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be best, but I would try to let him go where he wants to go. Don't make him pull a Farve.
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thurman is my all-time favorite Bill. I got over the Dolphins thing. It’s funny how he bashes them now. I still wonder if he did sign there as an FU to the braintrust that let him get away?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He had two offers – Miami and Seattle.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 23, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I pray he goes to the Pats or Fins. Advantage Buffalo.
by Buffalonian on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When it rains, it pours. Not much fun being a Bills fan right now. Norcalianglesfan…do you have some extra chocolate cake?
Here's to the next decade...Go Bills!
by the Uncommon Denominator on Dec 23, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How about chocolate beer? :(
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by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brooklyn Brewery Double Chocolate Stout is like drinking chocolate cake.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MMMMMMMMMMMM.
Sounds Tasty.
Ever have Sammy Smith’s Oatmeal Stout, that is a fine stout.
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 23, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Flying Bison Oatmeal Stout is the best IMO
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by weswed51 on Dec 23, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I"ve had Sammy’s Oatmeal. It’s good, not an offensive hop in the bottle. Conversely, Delierium is some of my favorite stuff, as are most Belgiums.
I’d say Dogfish head is making the best stuff on the market right now—all around.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dogfish head 60 min ipa best beer ive had in a long time
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by weswed51 on Dec 26, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UZ
Any chance one might be able to get some Fat Tire shipped to them via Colorado someday? I love it but can’t get it here.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll ship some to you if the price is right ;)
Really though, it’s really hard to come by Fat Tire or anything by New Belgium anywhere but Colorado sadly.
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by UZ on Dec 24, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
It’s everywhere out west. Most bars in Cali have it on tap. All grocery stores carry it. I’ve seen it in podunk towns in Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah and Nevada.
by twoeightnine on Dec 24, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Yeah, its harder to find beers like HiLife here in Cali than it is to find Fat Tire.
Has Blue Moon made its way across this great nation yet? My favorite is Sam Adams Light, but Blue Moon is freakin’ awesome.
by NorCal BillsFan on Dec 24, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wha, wha, what?
Has Blue Moon made it across the nation? Do you realize who makes that crap? It’s Coors. It’s their attempt to capitalize on the craft brew movement by pretending that its made by a small brewery. And it tastes exactly like that.
by twoeightnine on Dec 24, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
defintely see where hes coming from… kind of sucks that the wind is out of his sails regarding this team. He was always ‘that vet that never gave up’ type of player in my eyes and the decade of horrible football is starting to turn him into something else. Hopefully its just the frustration talking but I would like to see him get a shot with a contender. That would be a nice thing to do for him. Maybe draft day trade?? Not sure what hes worth tho with his contract and age.
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I could see him flourshing in San Diego or Pittsburgh. I don’t think he’s done. This has been a great season for him.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking at the deadline he could go to Pitt. He would fit in great there. I think he still has game left in the tank, but do you think we would have any takers for him around draft time or would he have to be released?
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Released...
Most likely with a settlement from OBD regarding the guaranteeed portion of his contract…no team will pick that up though…especially with the retirement talk.
by NorCal BillsFan on Dec 24, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann as short term replacement?
FA in GB at end of year
Not a fit in their 3-4.
btw, Schobel would be out of place if new regime goes to a 3-4
by freddyjj on Dec 23, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to get Kampman. Maybe we could even do a straight up trade. I mean Kampman is only average in a 3-4, maybe they’de like to see what Schobel can do.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Schobel would be out of place in a 3-4 and Kampmann has been in GB’s 3-4, how would he be a good fit for B-lo?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IF the Bills went 3-4. I still don’t see it happening. I read somewhere about too much competition with other teams when drafting talent to fit the scheme. 13 teams employ it. Though that seems low when looking at 32 teams. I don’t understand the argument if it’s 13 out of 32 teams. That’s less than half.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There aren’t 13 good NTs out there. That’s why. It was an article by Bucky Gleason in the Buffalo News.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 23, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes, that’s where I saw it.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
that’s the crown jewel that makes the defense work. It’s much easier to find guys who can rush the passer or play ILB in the 3-4 than in the 4-3. The fact that the guys who can anchor the 3-4 are 1 in a gazillion are the reason it’s not the dominant scheme. IMO.
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by JPH on Dec 24, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t Gleason. It was Mark Gaughan.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 27, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kampman has struggled to adjust to the 3-4.
I’d love to get him here if keep the 4-3
There's not a wide receiver who is fast enough, that J.P. Losman can't overthrow him on a fly pattern.
by The Buffalo Kid on Dec 23, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kampmann is older/just-as-old as Schobel
he’d be a short term stop gap at the most.
by neverbeentobuffalo on Dec 23, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would just hate to see Schobel retire after this season, but hopefully an off-season to rethink things and his life will lead him back to Buffalo to be the very strong-playing DE we’ve known for almost a decade.
If we move to a 3-4, I think the first thing we should do, would be to trade Schobel to a contende for a third and a fifth rounder and then use those picks as ammo to draft a QB or NT (or OLB again??).
No matter what happens, it’s safe to say Schobel has been a lone shine spot on this otherwise highly inconsistent and at times butt-awful Buffalo Bills team of the 2000’s.
by BillsfanfromDenmark on Dec 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be great if we could package Schobel and our #1 pick to trade up to get Suh.......pass the KoolAid :-)
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’d have to add our second rounder too. No team is stupid enough to trade out of Suh.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me introduce you to the Cleveland Browns…
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by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yesm the one franchise in football that has a worst FO then we do. Yet they still beat us on the feild.
by CanadianBillsFan on Dec 23, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think that game should be erased from the NFL archives.
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by UZ on Dec 24, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which game?
There are 3 to choose from.
by twoeightnine on Dec 24, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you dont think Al Davis drafts better than we do! :-)
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by gregeng on Dec 24, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when darius heyward bay isn't your worst draft pick in a given year, you're a crummy drafter.
:)
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by JPH on Dec 24, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We can't afford to lose both of those picks
How about our first, Schobel, Parrish, Edwards, and a Ace bandage??
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone on ESPN radio today just compared Suh to a Reggie White-type opportunity.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well then hopefully we play the part of GB in that story and end up with him still as a force later in his career.
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to the Bills to steal back their biggest mistake: Pat Williams
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If only we could find a way to kidnap that giant, powerful, run stuffing, top DT in the league…. anyone up for a roadtrip? lol
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest mistake is an complete understatement
That’s what we need in the draft.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Dec 23, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I’d rather them stay where they are in the 1st round to get McClain and get some 3rd or 4th round picks to boost depth in other areas. Suh is going to be fantastic, but I want the Bills to start drafting by NEED, not just by who they think is the best player available.
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by UZ on Dec 23, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that has been our problem, not drafting the best player available, and instead trying to fill holes, which is more what FA is for
It's not all that bad.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Dec 23, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this on Sunday during the game....
and my fan post was deleted! I’m new so maybe I wasn’t following the rumblings guidlines… A few people including MattRichWarren commented then the post was gone. The comments I got were mostly that I was crazy and had no clue what I was talking about. Really??? My post was that my mother runs the daycare where his children attend. His wife came in last week and said good bye to all the teachers. She was teared up and said they are heading home for the holiday and will not be back next August becuase he was retiring. Amazing what you can hear at a daycare. Kelsay’s child is there as well. Thought it was funny that his wife said… they just finished building a house in Nebraska and that “they have their fingers crossed” they will be back next year!
Looks like we are looking at the same draft needs as last year…. DE, OL, LB plus now QB. Groundhog day…..
by PDel22 on Dec 23, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Groundhog day
over, and over, and over, and over, and over
It's not all that bad.... Go Bills 2010 !!!!
by killascript on Dec 23, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm… not sure what happened to your FanPost. I certainly didn’t delete it.
Thanks for re-posting, though. That’s quite interesting. When you say…
they just finished building a house in Nebraska and that "they have their fingers crossed" they will be back next year!
… do you mean “back” as in “back in Nebraska”?
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by Brian Galliford on Dec 23, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I signed up just so I could post that and it got booted! I figured if it was from his wife there had to be something behind it. Matt was asking if I thought that meant that they just weren’t coming back to Buffalo with him during the football season. I told him no, that his wife seemed sure he was retiring.
Kelsay’s wife was saying she hoped they would be back in Buffalo in August. She was impling that she wasn’t sure that he would be back with the team with all that will go on this offseason.
This daycare things has been pretty funny – Lofton, R. Brown, Gale Gilbert!!!, Denny, Schobel, Kelsay, Perry Fewell, and many more have or had their children there at some point. It has allowed me to create a pretty solid “Man Room” with crap/collectibles they have given my mother over the years.
by PDel22 on Dec 23, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha nice. Sounds like you got quite the “source” in mom there. Tell her to keep them coming!!
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow that is interesting, good story man.
Its funny… youll never know where you might hear something like that.
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i read that Del22 u were first on the scene
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by BRIANMULHALL on Dec 23, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got few not so nice post after that… I was disappointed that it got take down. However, I understand becuase there usually is some wacky topic on here.
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by PDel22 on Dec 23, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did comment. I don’t know where it went. It doesn’t look like anyone deleted it.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 23, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Schobel is allowed to leave
I hope he opens up a bit about what he’s held back saying. It would be quite something to read what it’s really been like behind the scenes the last 10 years.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would hope he would do that, but that doesnt seem like the kind of guy he is. Maybe after he’s hung them up for good he would. But it would be nice to find out exactly what REALLY happened during this decade.
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At training camp, some arrogant little bastard mouthed off to him. He wanted his ball signed (kid was like 16, at most) and said come on dude, we pay your salary. Schobel turned around (was sitting on a Gator) and said “Who said that—say it again?” I couldn’t believe the kid said that, especially because he probably hasn’t paid for a single Bills item yet in his life.
Point is…Schobel looked ready to kill. I would have loved for him to take the kid’s ball and crush it…after signing it.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha like Bruce in Little Giants…. (pops ball) “INTIMIDATION!!!”
but that is BS i would have been fired up if I was Schobel too
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by bflo on Dec 23, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was like “Want a do-over, kid?”
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Bait
Yeah, Schobel would only bring, say, a third or fourth rounder and would have to agree to re-work his contract. An NFC team on the rise in need of a dependable DE wouldn’t necessarily be able to do much better in what promises to be a thin free agent market.
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by Ron From NM on Dec 23, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trade for Tyler Thigpen from the dolphins.
The dolphins grabbed him in a hurry when Pennington went down. Yes it would be with the dolphins, hell we let Thurman go to the dolphins at the end of his career. I would hate to see Aaron go, and once the new FO gets settled in they may intice him to stay. BUT when the wife starts talking things seem pretty straight forward.
The dolphins gave up a high pick for Thigpen and never used him, maybe they would want that pick back in a solid DE.
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by VanScottM on Dec 23, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
..but then they would have our pick and aaron schobel... and we would have Tyler Thigpen...
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by JPH on Dec 24, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Schobel is my favorite BILL
but im ok with him retiring we are in full bore rebuild mode we have to find out what we have in Maybin next year and give him time to develop he is a project and always was but he is still athletically gifted and very quick around the corner and with an inside move he could become effective but Schobel retiring frees up some money for other things maybe even a FA
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by BRIANMULHALL on Dec 23, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is this just a way of Schobel screaming “I want to play for a team that has a chance next year?”
by krytime on Dec 23, 2009 6:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If this is the case, he may want to confide in Jason Taylor.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Dec 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why wouldnt Schobel hang em up?
He spends the greater part of his career putting up league leading sack totals and giving 110% on every play but never being surrounded by the talent to get into the playoffs. Later on, coming off a serious injury he had a down year and the fanbase and media questioned whether his production was the result of his skill and some were even calling for his head after a decade of hard work and production. He bounces back two years removed from the injury and plays very good football but the team is a mess, the coach gets fired mid season, and fans are putting up billboards and trashing players yards.
All I know is this: As a fan, I and I’m sure many of you, love Schobel as a player. The only time in his career he was ever unproductive was a two year span after injury. For the record Osi Umenyiora has had a very mediocre year, one in which he is a year removed from injury. Serious injuries often take two seasons to come back from. Outside of that, Schobel has been one of the top DEs of his generation. In fact, I should stop using the past tense and say Schobel IS one of the best DEs of his generation. I hope you don’t retire Schobel, along with Terrence McGee you have been the only two players this entire decade who have been here all along and we can point to every single Sunday and say “that guy there, I know I can count him” in a decade full of guys we couldn’t count on. Hard worker, producer, high character, classy act, has spent his entire career with our beloved franchise. How much more could you ask of a player. Not much in my book. Come back Schobel, you aren’t done yet.
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by poz on Dec 23, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
we said rec'd
I hope he comes back too, but it sure doesn’t sound good.
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by Joe P. on Dec 23, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
need this posted more often. Alot of spoiled brats around here, momma’s boys. We don’t win every game than we are average, or want to trade somebody for more draft picks. If any of our players wanted to leave I wouldn’t blame them based on the comments in some of these posts along with the actions of the fan base.
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by VanScottM on Dec 23, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i always liked him
not his fault he wasn’t the true, dominant pass rusher to replace Bruce Smith. He’s definitely a guy who got every ounce of production out of his talent.
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by JPH on Dec 24, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love your comments Poz. You are completely correct. This guy is the true heart and soul, blue collar, lunch pail DE and IMO the best Bills player of the last decade. Something to be said for quiet hard work ethic that produced sacks and pressures for years. One injury year and people hung him out to dry. He comes back this year like a champ and even gets a pick six against the Pats in game one.This guy is a class act and always will be. Hope you don’t leave Aaron but if you do all the best wherever you land.
by TOfireman on Dec 23, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame him
After spending his entire career playing for a losing franchise, he sees another “rebuilding” couple of seasons ahead of him and the team. Why would he want to be apart of that, again? It’s hard to blame him for thinking about retiring when playing in a playoff game seems hopeless.
I think he wants to play for a winner and knows there’s no chance it’s happening in Buffalo for a few seasons, at the least. By then, his career is likely done anyways. I’m guessing he questions his ability to play at a consistent high level, but also wants out in order to get the chance at playing with a winner. For his sake, I hope he gets that chance.
If his thoughts about retirement are due solely to his performance and how his body feels instead of trying to get out of his contract in order to play for a winner, then I give the dude a ton of credit. There’s nothing sadder than watching a former very good NFL player holding on for way too long as his ability has slipped. Schobel isn’t one of those guys that will go out there if there’s a chance he embarrasses himself. I give him credit for realizing his time may be up and being proactive about his future.
If he does retire, getting that contract off the books is a nice start in this franchise’s rebuilding….
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by Kurupt on Dec 24, 2009 1:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
His contract, while inflated and kind of a thank you gift, doesn’t prevent the Bills from rebuilding, though.
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by MattRichWarren on Dec 27, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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