Brett Favre to retire

by gatornation on Feb 11, 2009 12:52 PM EST Comment 38 comments

I know this is getting old but he has announced that he is retiring. Given that he resided in the Bills division it is a bit more relevent. This gives the Jets $13MM in cap space, which they desperately needed. They also have to give Green Bay a 3rd round pick this year while they get back a 7th rounder pick in 2010.

My question is was the Jets pickup of Brett Favre a complete failure and does this set that team back because they have no viable for a QB option for 2009? Does this better position the Bills within their division for 2009? I would have to think we are at least the Jets equal, maybe even better after FA and the Draft. I don't think the Jets, minus some restructuring of contracts and outright releases, will have the cap space to go after quality players.

Overall, I think this will prove to be a benefit for the Bills in 2009.

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It doesn’t really kill the Jets as much as I would have liked it to. If they never acquired Favre they would have gone forward with Pennington. While Chad did play well this year, his age and injury history suggest that the Jets really only could have gotten about 2 or 3 more good years out of him. Clemmens was a 2nd round pick only 3 years ago, he still has some upside and could develop. If they sign a vet and let him compete with Clemmens for the starting spot they really aren’t that far off from where they were without Favre.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Feb 11, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

the problem

is that there are no QB’s in FA that would be a viable option. Maybe Garcia but too many headaches develop when he’s around.
Clemens is probably their only starting option at this point. We at Buffalo Rumblings (at least some) have preached the continuity thing so I’m assuming it would be the same for a team that will have another new starting quarterback in 2009.

by gatornation on Feb 11, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

there isn't only Garcia.

Donte Culpepper proved that he can still play pretty well when he was with the Lions this year. Granted he didn’t win any games, but he didn’t have much help either. I’d see him as a viable option to compete alongside Clemmens for the jets starting job… although I’ve got the feeling that i’m part of the very small minority that thinks so.

by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Donte will stay with Detroit, the guys there seem to like him

Dark horse? JP Losman, he will be cheap, has starting experience, and it would baffle/piss Bills fans off.

I told the witch doctor that I was in love with the Buffalo Bills, and instead of telling me to say "Oh eeh oh oh ah, ting tang walla walla wing bang" in order to make me feel better he told me to buy a gun and end it.

by WABillsfan on Feb 11, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you kidding

I would be giddy with joy if the Jets signed Zohan.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Feb 12, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, he really does look like Zohan!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 12, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hence the baffle/piss line pal

I would be baffled and quite happy if they did get JP to start. Only JP lovers would be mad that JP is now playing against the Bills, needless to say, I ain’t in that crowd!

by WABillsfan on Feb 12, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Only JP lovers would be mad

Who is that? His parents.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Feb 13, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rob Johnson, Adam Sandler, etc.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 13, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

HA! I think Bills fans would love it. I know I would, and I would especially love hearing Jets fans talk themselves into Losman being the savior. Hahaha~!!!

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by Kurupt on Feb 12, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Culpepper proved that he is still washed up

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by Kurupt on Feb 12, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be honest

Kellen kinda scares me. Maybe it’s just because I don’t know he has a noodle for an arm, or is guaranteed to throw at least one TAINT against us.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Feb 11, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ha. You don’t need to worry. He’s not good.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 11, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well the Jets are back to square one

Sure they have some line talent on both sides of the ball but they need a QB bad.

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Feb 11, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Warner is still a FA

Teach your children about the four seasons: preseason, regular season, postseason, and off-season

by Joe P. on Feb 11, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

isnt he going to retire if he doesnt return to the Cards?

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Feb 11, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It is possible, but far from certain

Teach your children about the four seasons: preseason, regular season, postseason, and off-season

by Joe P. on Feb 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes the Favre trade was a complete disaster for the Jets.

I think they have plenty of cap space with Favre’s salary and the release of David Barrett to sign at least one good player and fill out their roster with some other decent options. It is really easy to work around the cap. Say they were to go after Karlos Dansby for example, they could give him a 7 year, 49 mil contract (which is pretty huge) and give him a 17.5 mil signing bonus and the league minimum for a veteran of his experience and his first year cap hit is hardly over 3 mil.

I wonder who NY’s starting QB, backup QB, highest paid QB and fan’s favorite to be the starter in 2010 or 2011 will be. Each answer could be so many different players. I don’t think Kellen Clemens is the answer and considering there is a new coaching staff he might not even get a fair shot at winning the job kinda like John Beck got immediately passed over in Miami. Brett Ratliff could surprise. A free agent like Jeff Garcia or Byron Leftwich might make the most sense. You have to think that Rex Ryan and his staff will want to get their own QB in the draft to build around. I bet the Jets have a rookie starting by midseason and I bet it doesn’t work out for Ryan half as well as Flacco and that defense did in Baltimore.

I’m guessing 6 wins and a last place finnish for the Jets this year. They are getting old at a lot of positions (Thomas Jones – 31, Laveraneus Coles – 31, Kris Jenkins – 30, David Bowens, Eric Barton, Shaun Ellis and Alan Faneca are all 32, Damian Woody is 31, Kenyon Coleman and Bryan Thomas are both turning 30) and I expect Ryan to really try and turn a lot of the roster over in the next few seasons.

by kaisertown on Feb 11, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You are so right. I thought that move was a disaster for the Jets and sure enough it turned out to be. Now they are 2-3 years away from having a decent QB. What a shame. I didn’t realise how old they are getting. Ryan has his work cut out for him.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Feb 12, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They have a lot of great young players too, but that offseason spending spree is going to come back to hurt them if they can’t find a QB soon. Is there any worse situation that a team can be in to have a roster built to win now, but no QB? A shame? I love it!

by kaisertown on Feb 12, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I remember thinking when Kelly retired that the Bills were 2-3 years away from great QB play. Oops!

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 12, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Reading about Brett I cam across this nugget:

Scouts Inc. ranks the best free-agent quarterbacks as Kurt Warner, Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, Byron Leftwich and J.P. Losman.

His name is on that list? Seriously??

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?sort=grade&positionId=8&action=login&appRedirect=http3a2f2finsider.espn.go.com2fnfl2ffa3fsort3dgrade26positionId%3d8

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 11, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Oh snap! We just couldn’t see J.P.’s real value like Scouts Inc. can.

No one believes this, especially the Jets.

Sweet home Orchard Park.

by thurman on Feb 11, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If the Jets pick up J.P., can we have a party?

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Feb 11, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd love to see JP in a Jets uniform

insures that we’ll get half a dozens INT’s this season :P

by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and don't forget the fumbles!!!

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by Joe P. on Feb 11, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and the sacks!

whats the best way to get Aaron Schobel back to top form? have to face JP Losman twice per year!

by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So it’ll be just like this past season against the Jets?

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by Kurupt on Feb 12, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

The Jets won’t be the one scoring as a result of JP.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 12, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

THANK GOD

get the DIVA out of the NFL. Favre was overrated his whole career. He won one Super Bowl and played the game with that southern miss style….good for him. I won’t miss yah!

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 11, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

he won one more Super Bowl than our franchise has

Kawika Mitchell is a leader. He will help this young team develop.

by poz on Feb 11, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So have the Jets, and their fans are quick to point it out to Bills fans.

Favre was my favorite player because he played the game like any kid growing up would want to. He was old-school (with a little bit of help from pain killers, I know). He was tough, unafraid of the big play and the big risk. He seemed to transcend typical athelete monkor for much of his career. He had a fervor for the game like no one else in the modern NFL.

Was he the best? No way. Was he the best of his era, probably not. I think Steve Young had him beat. But man, was he great to watch, for me anyway.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 12, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs