Buffalo Rumblings Authors Mock, Take Six
This is Buffalo Rumblings' sixth and final (for now) Authors Mock Draft. I'll pick up where my initial version of the mock draft left off. As I wrote last week, there's really no one left on the board who fits the #11 selection for the Bills; the top ten picks I made (which nullified most of the more common names mentioned here) are reviewable here. Brian didn't say that trades were verboten, but I'm guessing that was kind of implied. I see Buffalo dropping back in the first round, either with a team wanting a QB or a team wanting one of the remaining two top offensive tackles. If the Bills stay put, here's how I see it shaking out.
Round 1: Rey Maualuga, MLB, USC
If the first ten picks play out as I fear they might, Buffalo will be in position to have fans shouting, "Newman!". At #11, with Brown and Orakpo off the board, the Bills are left to choose between a guy who fans will see as an okay choice, like a LB, or a flat out reach, such as a second tier DE. The Whitner Experiment has (hopefully) cured OBD from any desire to reach for a player, so they go with another LB with a hard to spell name.
Round 2: Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnati
We're well into the second tier of ends by this point but Buffalo, having not really addressed the DE position in free agency, has to get a fourth DE. Barwin figures to be the fifth or sixth DE off the board. He's about the size of DE the Bills seem to prefer. Unless Buffalo's DE talent evaluation is better than we have reason to suspect, the Bills may well be adding a Chris Kelsay under a different name. By this point, I'm hurling things in the general direction of the TV and I suspect many Bills fans are simply staring at ESPN in stunned disbelief that another draft is going awry.
Round 3: James Casey, TE, Rice
For the umpteenth time, the TE position gets yet another lick and (unfulfilled) promise. No, I don't think Casey is the answer to the question, "Who does Buffalo get at TE that can stretch the seam and can also block?". He's just a mid-round athletic draft choice who the Bills hope turns into a pleasant surprise. In a draft relatively thin at TE, the Bills do at least get the third or fourth one off the board. Draftniks will say "value". Some Bills fans will ask: can he play center?
Round 4: A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State
Yes. As a matter of fact, I am livid by this point of the draft. Buffalo has let all of the top C prospects be taken before finally turning some attention to the position. Shipley isn't a guy who can step in and start. He's quite possibly not even a guy who can start down the road. This pick makes it a virtual certainty that Preston retains his starting role, assuming the Bills failed to secure a center in free agency. Ugh.
Round 5: Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU
Tired of being outmaneuvered through the entirety of the first four rounds, the Bills reach for a guy destined to be a fan favorite. He's also only the second guy from this draft destined to have any kind of instant impact for Buffalo. Johnson can catch and, more importantly, he can open lanes and move piles for Marshawn Lynch. Yes, he's a reach in round five, but no Bills fan will remember that by October.
Round 6: Marko Mitchell, WR, Nevada
He's tall and has some room to add muscle to his frame. Does that scream "Project!" to you, too? He's a possible stop-gap while OBD twiddles their collective fingers awaiting James Hardy's recovery. More likely, he's a practice squad guy and there's a very good chance he won't make the team at all.
Round 7: John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama
Having decided that Gibran Hamdan (or some journeyman free agent) is the backup QB, the Bills take a shot in the dark at an all-out project. OBD might be imagining new Bills Backers chapters opening up in the deep south. On the plus side, Wilson did show up in some big games and should at least make the practice squad. [Editor's Note: Plus, the Bills can't go without a quarterback with the initials J.P. It's impossible.]
I, for one, will be bitterly disappointed if the draft shakes out as I've listed. Maualuga and Johnson will start and perhaps even exceed the low expectations generated by this draft. Casey will contribute while Barwin will quite possibly have an Ellis-esque type of year. Three of the picks - Shipley, Mitchell and Wilson - won't have any impact in 2009, 2010, and possibly 2011. What a waste.
Luckily, there are alternative options. They're after the jump. Go ahead and take a gander before voting in the poll.
Okay, that's the horror show and one I fear could play out in reality. Now let's take a look at what could happen if Buffalo traded out of #11. I believe that it is a real possibility if Brown, Orakpo, Curry, Maybin, Raji and Jenkins are all picked in the Top 10. Unfortunately for Buffalo, other teams will know that the Bills are in a tight spot and I can see them making lowball offers for the #11.
Door 2
One team that may be looking to repeat the Browns' 2007 strategy (without the holdout) is the Detroit Lions. Owners of the #20 pick (originally Dallas'), the Lions need to get ahead of Chicago to ensure they get QB Mark Sanchez to go along with the OT I've predicted - or get a top OT if they go QB with the first overall pick. The Lions can lowball the Bills by offering the #20 and #65 (first pick of third round) with perhaps a third or fourth in the 2010 draft to officially match the points for the #11 pick. Yes, Buffalo might get more - say #20, #65 and a swap of second rounders - as Detroit has two picks each in the first and third. However, I'm trying to be consistently negative. [Editor's Note: ... had not noticed.] As with the no-trade mock above, I'm operating under the pessimistic assumption that Buffalo has failed to seriously address any of the top needs (C, DE, LB, TE) in free agency.
Round 1 (f/DET): Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
Brown (KC), Orakpo (Raiders), Tyson Jackson (Houston - helping out Super Mario and making a scary defensive line), and Michael Johnson (Chicago - irritated that Sanchez is gone) are all off the board. Simply put, why take a DE here when the same guy (Barwin) will likely be available when Buffalo picks in the second? Pettigrew is the consensus best TE in the draft (whatever that is worth) and should upgrade the Bills' passing game. This pick also allows the Bills to part ways with Robert Royal.
Round 2: Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnati
And the song remains the same. Barwin is likely the best remaining DE when the Bills pick in the second round. He's definitely a second tier prospect, so fans looking for an instant impact can look elsewhere in the draft. There's a chance that he could help boost the pass rush but, then again, how could he not?
Round 3 (f/DET): Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
DT is a need, but not as pressing of a need as C and LB. With that said, Brace is a big boy who can help clog the middle. He's not likely to get much of a push on passing downs but he would be a solid addition to the DT rotation. He could help brace up (Nyuck! Nyuck!) Marcus Stroud, Kyle Williams and Spencer Johnson. (Yes, I'm assuming John McCargo is gone.)
Round 3: Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
Caldwell isn't an immediate starter. Sigh. He does, however, have the tools necessary to unseat Preston (groan) at some point during the year. With Alex Mack and Eric Wood most likely off the board (possibly Unger and Luigs as well) Caldwell is the best remaining option at C.
Round 4: Cody Brown, LB, Connecticut
Waiting until the fourth round (fifth pick) to address LB won't make many Bills fans happy. However, with TE, DE, DT and C addressed I can see Buffalo taking the best available LB - who may well be the best player available as well. Brown should send Ellison to the bench in short order, at least on downs that aren't obvious passing situations. He has good size (6'2", 248 pounds) and should be more of a force against the run than Ellison.
Round 5: Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
Bomar is purely a developmental guy. If he's on the field in 2009, Buffalo is in real trouble. Bomar might be able to supplant Hamdan (or a journeyman QB free agent) by 2010. I can see him being on the roster but spending most game days as the designated third QB - thus not counting as one of the 45 active players.
Round 6: Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU
Having nabbed the top TE in the draft, a DE who might contribute at least somewhat, a DT who should help the run defense and a LB who should at least push Ellison, the Bills won't feel obligated to take Johnson in the fifth round. Instead, OBD is still derided for reaching for Johnson - just not with the hooting and funereal head shaking that would have happened if the Bills took him in the fifth round, as in the previous scenario.
Round 7: Kory Sheets, RB, Purdue
Sheets is nothing more than a late round flier. He's a smaller RB who might provide a third down change of pace. He's something of a long shot to make the roster but might keep the Bills from giving Shaud Williams a call.
I, for one, would be far, far happier with this draft...
TE Pettigrew, DE Barwin, DT Brace, C Caldwell, LB Brown, QB Bomar, FB Johnson, RB Sheets
... than this one.
LB Maualuga, DE Barwin, TE Casey, C Shipley, FB Johnson, WR Mitchell, QB Wilson
Door 3
As I've stated, at this point I'm assuming that C, DE, LB and TE are still gaping holes when the draft begins. We'll see what happens as free agency gets underway. One significant free agent pick up could change the draft remarkably - not only a pick up by the Bills, but by the teams with the top ten draft picks.
Here's how I think it could go if Buffalo swapped the #11 and #75 with Philly for the #21 and #28 (a distinct possibility, as the Eagles could use an OT under the age of 47, or however old Jon Runyan is).
Round 1 (f/PHI): Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
As noted above, he is the consensus top TE in the draft and should bump Royal off of the roster. Just giving Royal the heave-ho would make him the pick for many Bills fans.
Round 1 (f/PHI): Alex Mack, C, California
I'm a happy, happy man because Buffalo has a center who can step in and play. Preston is, at a minimum, demoted. It would be ideal to get a DE here but the top four ends will be off the board by pick #20, so....
Round 2: Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnati
I swear I'm not related to the guy. I also don't believe he's some kind of DE monster. He's just the fifth rated DE on mock after mock.
Round 3: traded to Eagles
Round 4: Cody Brown, LB, Connecticut
See above.
Round 5: Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
See above.
Round 6: Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU
See above.
Round 7: Kory Sheets, RB, Purdue
See above.
So, you've got three different drafts to rip to shreds. The first is with no trades and, I think, leaves Buffalo in a bad spot if Brown, Orakpo, Raji, Curry, Maybin and Jenkins are off the board. The second is the Detroit trade (#11 for #20 and #65) while the third is the Philly trade (#11 and #75 for #21 and #28). If you had to pick one, which would it be? (Hmm... maybe after all the mocks are posted, someone can do a story/poll letting people pick between the mocks we've posted...)
Door 1: Maualuga, Barwin, Casey, Shipley, Johnson, Mitchell, Wilson
Door 2: Pettigrew, Barwin, Brace, Caldwell, Brown, Bomar, Johnson, Sheets
Door 3: Pettigrew, Mack, Barwin, Brown, Bomar, Johnson, Sheets
Happy Valentine's Day. Yes, you do now have to go out and buy flowers. [Editor's Note: No, you don't. Valentine's Day isn't a real holiday.]
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So essentially, you're high on the Bills taking Pettigrew?
It’s sad, but I think scenario 1 may well play out. I really hope some of the organization’s insiders are at least aware of this blog and are taking notes at what the fans see as potential draft risks and failures.
Excellent work Ron. I applaud your pessimistic realism.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 14, 2009 9:22 AM EST reply actions
It's not that I'm really high on Pettigrew
Trading back into the very early 20s makes Pettigrew ‘fit’ in terms of draft position and need, sort of like getting a pick in the late 20s makes Mack a ‘fit’.
When I started my all-negative article, I was thinking that the no-trade draft would be ugly and the trade draft (later drafts (plural) as I had time on my hands) would be great. I was surprised to see that the DE position really wasn’t seriously addressed in any of the 3 scenarios. Simply put, Buffalo gets an impact DE in free agency, at #11 or waits until next year.
Trading back—preferably with the Eagles even if the Bills overpay by giving up the 3rd rounder—will work out if and only if Buffalo takes care of the DE position in free agency. And I mean really takes care of it, not just ‘some guy’ who the Bills (like Berry) who the Bills hope to get some production out of. Picking up one of the other needs in free agency (like TE, C, or LB)—even if Buffalo gets a top FA at that position—won’t help at DE.
If, as I believe they will, Brown and Orakpo are off the board by #11 Buffalo is in a tight spot—reach for Jackson or Johnson at #11 or trade back and likely miss those guys….leaving Buffalo with Barwin in the 2nd.
Buffalo really needs Suggs or Peppers.
Why in the world would the Bills overpay to move DOWN in the draft?
There’s no DE in FA that the BIlls will bring in to take care of the DE position.
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I think other teams will see that Buffalo needs to get out of the #11 slot. Sure, there could be a bidding war and Buffalo could make out like a bandit….but I kept things pessimistic across the board.
If you’re right about the Bills not taking care of DE in free agency then I think the team is just outright screwed at the position in 2009. Brown won’t be there and it’s sounding more and more like Orakpo isn’t the kind of guy the Bills would take.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Wow! I thought I was a pessimist!
So far 2/3 of the voters would eat a bullet rather than pull the trigger (Can you tell that I’m heading to a gun show this afternoon?) on any of those 3 scenarios! I voted for Door #3, by the way. It nets several immediate starters (TE, C, FB) and includes two lesser contributors (DE, LB).
Oh, and I doubt anyone will accuse me of being too optimistic when it comes to guys being on the board when Buffalo picks.
Also picked Door #3
I get incredibly insightful and well thought out information on this blog (all six mocks BTW). I am not really a draft junkie per se, and without serious study on the subject probably never will be. I usually hope for some miracle or epiphany to enlighten our selectors, but it rarely seems to happen. I think this is probably the closest to how the Bills seem to pick in the past. If we are expecting any of the top DE’s or Raji to be there by number 11 pick, we are high. I like with Philly better because it didn’t seem to be as much of a bone to the Bills (but like I said, not really into the draft, so maybe I don’t know what the heck I am talking about).
I usually just hold my breath and hope we aren’t breaking the bank on some college superstar turned big league flop artist. I guess we shall see.
From a draft value chart perspective, the Bills are getting the short end with either the Lions or Eagles trades. It’s not a Pothead Williams style hosing but those teams are coming out ‘ahead’ and I’m sure draftniks would ridicule the Bills on draft day for making either of those trades. With that said, those trades do—I think—help Buffalo get out of the #11 pick.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Nice
I guess that’s why I am not into the draft very much…if an “expert” can’t seem to find the value of getting out of a pick that would otherwise just be burned on a Whitner-style over-reach, then are they really someone worth listening to? I am not very optimistic about the draft…ever, and if I had a TV I would probably be throwing things at it as well unless something pretty close to addressing our needs like Door 3 happened.
If you don’t have a TV then you’ll be spared the “Buffalo hasn’t been to the playoffs since the Hoover Administration” crawl at the bottom of the screen on ESPN during their draft coverage.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Thank goodness
I don’t know if I can handle any more negative press about my part of the country. I still “tune in” so to speak, but again how can I give credence to anything that the major media puts into those streaming distractions…yes, Buffalo has been to the playoffs since blah blah blah…they never seem to say anything about Dallas not even winning a playoff game since ’96 when Slick Willy was getting his pickle smooched…anyway so much for fair coverage. Buffalo will get the shaft by every media outlet regardless of what they do right. Focus on the negative, accentuate the mediocre, ignore the positive.
I got a bit confused.
I voted before jumping so I only saw the awful door #1. Obviously I like door #3 best. Our offense is pretty well set and we have plugged some defensive holes too. I’m not a Shipley fan and would take Caldwell over Luigs any day. The only rap on Caldwell is he doesn’t play with the nasty streak that Mack and Woods have. But he is smart and a line leader. Bomar is projected round 2 or 3 by Scott Wright. Brown is a good pick in the 4th.
everything goes better with a BIG MACK
I hadn’t seen Bomar taken before the end of the 5th in any of the mocks I saw so I figured he’d be there when Buffalo picks. If he’s not then another project QB would fit just as well. Basically, I was looking for the best remaining option at QB in the 5th knowing that Johnson was the guy in the 6th.
Option 2 has an appeal if Brace turns out to be a run stuffing DT. He seemed to do okay in the Senior Bowl. Still, I prefer option 3.
Sorry about the confusion—I couldn’t put a poll after the jump and didn’t want to lay out the entire article on the front page due to length.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I still think Philly gives a 1 for Boldin
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 14, 2009 10:54 AM EST reply actions
Philly has the juice to do that
Philly also has a habit of giving up their 1st round picks….and picking up malcontent WRs…
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
DE Wasteland
If we are going to settle for another Ellis with the Barwin pick, why waste the pick? Had we not wasted the 3rd on Ellis last year, we might not have any need for a LB this year!!!!!!
Dan Connor was still on the board when we opted for Ellis. That’s right, the same Connor that was rated a late first, early second round pick by some.
I've been feeling Buffalo ill.
OH.MY.GOD
What is this Dan Connor crap that I always see? This guy was a 3rd rounder for a reason. He’s not the next Mike Singletary or Ray Lewis, so why do so many Bills fans keep talking about how they should have drafted him? He was a 1st or 2nd rounder in the same way Youboty was.
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I’m as big a PSU homer as they come, and I’ve never been high on Dan Connor- of the Poz, Connor, Lee threesome, Connor’s definitely got the least upside. Now, when we’re having these mocks next year, I wouldn’t mind seeing Lee in there…
John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Feb 14, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
He was a 1st or 2nd rounder in the same way Youboty was.
Like another year in college would do him wonders?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry...
That I insulted all those that feel Chris Ellis will be a stud, despite the fact he couldn’t get off the practice squad when we were short-handed at the position last season. At least Connor was contributing on special teams for Carolina before he got hurt. A Carolina team that did not need a LB, yet decided to take the best player still on the board.
I've been feeling Buffalo ill.
I don’t think anyone was offended or thinks Chris Ellis is going to suddenly develop into a stud. I think what sparked the anti Connor comments was that you are far from the first person to bring up how Buffalo made a grave mistake by passing on Connor and the fact that you seem so sure that Connor was a better pick than Ellis. The truth is that you can bash Ellis all you want, even though he wasn’t on the practice squad at any point all season, but Connor has yet to do anything as a pro to prove that he is any better than Ellis is. Wow, special teams contributions from a backup linebacker. Is there a backup linebacker in the entire league who doesn’t contribute on special teams?
Connor is small and slow. His upside is very limited. Like K said, he slid into the third round for a reason (or a number of reasons). Also James Anderson and Tim Shaw were the backup linebackers going into 08 so it isn’t like drafting Connor meant that Carolina was drafting the best player on the board despite being stacked at the position. Carolina needed to pick up a linebacker at some point.
Chris Ellis wasn't on the practice squad. He was just inactive a lot.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Conner was taken 2nd in the 3rd round, Ellis was 9th so he was gone and Conner has what… 4 tackles
in 3 games. That right, I’d rather have Ellis, I haven’t totally given up on him yet, That said, I wasn’t too pleased taking the 8th best DE in the 3rd.
Check your facts
Connor was selected 11th in the 3rd round, two spots after Biils took the prized Ellis.
I've been feeling Buffalo ill.
Your right
I should have researched that draft position. Time will tell …. Ellis or Conner I’m just tired of hearing about Conner and he has not done anything in the NFL but 4 tackles.
Interesting Ron
I don’t see your #1 or #2 draft coming true unless we address C in FA. Even then, I think your #1 draft would have me drinking large amounts of adult beverages on Day 2. I would absolutely love draft 3 if we could sign Big AL in FA, talk about a big splash!!! With Big John being a big bust, I wonder whether OBD thinks DE or DT is the bigger need?
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#1
I can easily see that nightmare coming true, particuarly if the Bills don’t (seriously) address any needs in free agency.
While we all see DE as a pressing need I’m not so sure that OBD does. Remember, these are the same guys who paid Schobel, Kelsay and Denney far more than they are worth. They might just think that a rotational guy—like Barwin—is all that is needed. Besides, to do otherwise would be to admit they’d erred. Blech. The thought puts a bad taste in my mouth.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
In all fairness they were basing their assesment on past production like everyone else.
ANd before they gave out the contracts, especially Schobel, those guys had some of their best years.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
I remember being stunned by the Kelsay deal. He’d pretty much just been ‘a guy’ and he landed a really good deal. If I recall correctly there was quite the firestorm amongst Bills fans when his deal was announced.
The deals certainly don’t speak well of OBD’s ability to correctly forecast future production and reward it accordingly—at least at the DE position.
by Ron From NM on Feb 14, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Let's get the info...
Kelsay signed in Feb of 2007….
2006 stats:
Career high 5.5 sacks, 1 FF and 1 FR, career high 41 tackles and 20 assts.
Obviously his best year. I don’t think he deserved a nice big contract. Maybe one of those smaller contracts we keep hearing about would have been better.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
Those numbers are worse than I remember. I was thinking he had 60ish solo tackles with minimal sacks… Like you say they’re good as it gets for Kelsay but not exactly standout DE numbers.
You're right on that...
I have not jumped on the Kelsay must go bandwagon just the he probably should go bandwagon.
But I think I put my right foot on for now and have you help me up.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I agree about the Bills feeling on our DEs
that is why I think we will see Raji taken if available at #11 (if the Bills get no trade down offers). If we do go with Ray M in round 1, then I think the Bills would go for a DT like Brace rather than a DE like Barwin in round 2.
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Door #3
It fills the most holes.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions
who are you now?
joe P?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I am sorry, I don't get it
I am off to volunteer at the soup kitchen, drop an extra hundo in the plate at church, and help some old ladies carry their groceries to the car. On the way home, I will pick up my halo from the cleaners.
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As your new profile pic would suggest......
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Thus the need to drop the hundo
Teach your children about the four seasons: preseason, regular season, postseason, and off-season
I understand.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 14, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
#3
appears to be the best option because the potential is there to pick up 2, maybe 3 immediate starters. The bad thing is none of those starters are on defense. if the FA period is devoted to defense then I would be all for it.






















