Jones and any of the 3 tier 1/2 centers would be considered a successful off-season in my eyes. Jones would become our best playmaker on defense and the center would be an immediate starter.
I actually like Heath Evans as well. he can run the ball which OBD could derive benefits from if blunt mode is suspended for any length of time.

other teams sign some of these centers doesn’t that help us in the draft in that some of the most desireable draft centers will move down in the draft so that we could get a good one in the second round. So this could be a win-win for us either sign one of these guys or get the top rated draft center. With your list of 3 plus 3 more good draft centers is 6 so we shold get one of these.

4 that you list on the tier list so that make it 7 centers 4 tier and any of the top 3 draft centers , we should be able to get any one to improve

That is neat.

My top priority is Brown for two reasons; he would help us and it would hurt the Dolphins if we got him. With that being said I am not getting into an all out bidding war with the Dolphins or anyone else. At the same time I am in conversations with Brown I am pursuing Jones. Signing one or both of those two guys does a lot for me. Once I know where Brown stands I am going to Birk on the same day and getting my contingency guy a contract. After I know what happened with these three, either with me or not, I am going for my back-up QB Batch and vet WR Toomer. I really like Toomer as a stopgap type of player until Hardy or Johnson can step up. If I make those four signings; Brown/Birk, Jones, Batch, Toomer I am confident I can address the other needs at DE, OLB, and TE in the draft and have a very good team going into next season.

Do Handgartner/Meester = Melvion Fowler circa 2006???? I don’t know much about either guy except that the Jags were terrible this year (albeit with many many many injuries to the rest of the line)

Jones and Brown.
Then: Crowder and Terelle Smith.

I’d be staying away from anyone well into their 30’s, so no Toomer. I’m also avoiding LeRoy Hill now because, well – I can’t ignore his wacky tobaccy incident after Lynch’s issues. It’s not fair to him, because he’s a great player, but I have to protect Wilson’s image.

But if Toomer is on this list as a stop-gap guy, why not look at Moulds for a year?

I’ll be honest he wasn’t even on my radar until your article yesterday. I do agree we need to fix that back end and I really do think we are hamsrung there even with our inept pass rush. Jones would provide a reliable, proven commodity back there. I just don’t know what to do with whitner though? I honestly do not think he is a good football player. Its tough to swallow but where on the field does he belong? I’d rather bring a FS that has range like McRee could have played last year. But I think Scott & Whitner are both better SS than FS. So I still don’t know. I hope that if an increase in pass rush comes, that whoever plays FS can make some plays back there. We desperately need it

The center, Brown, would be my primary target. If the Bills feel he’s clearly better than any of the others available in free agency or the draft, then it’s a no-brainer. We lock him up for 4-5 years. We’ve eliminated a need with one fell swoop. One of the OLBs would be a second target. I’m not a fan of adding Toomer, unless he comes dirt-cheap. I’m not convinced that Jones is that much of an upgrade to make him worth the bucks.

Jermaine Phillips (SS – TB) and Mike Brown (FS – Chi) to your list of potential free agents signees, Teir 2 and 3 respectfully.

Otherwise, I agree with most of your tier rankings"

An offseason I would like:
- Jones SS (Tier 1)
- Brown C (Tier 1)
- Toomer WR (Tier 3)
- Berry DE (Tier 3)
- Batch QB

why Bart Scott is not on your list? I think he is a Tier 1 guy

Whereas in the last two years the front office has gone after two premium free agents the cap room is there this year to get three. One of the things that strikes me is that there are so many free agents this year that if the front office chooses its targets well we can land three. I agree with you about Jones. He is the kind of free agent who would be doeable and a great upgrade. My tier 1 targets would be Jones and/or Hill. I think Brown will cost a bundle. Tier 2 would be Hangartner, Crowder and/or Toomer. Certainly if we landed Brown or Hangartner we would not have to draft a center early this year (Shipley in round 4?). Would you put a vet QB in tier 3?

With Suggs tagged and Peppers certainly not coming here, we are left with Berry as the one decent option. I don’t really see him providing that much of a solution. Hopefully we can land a difference maker in the draft or else this offseason can’t be deemed a success. We can’t go into the season with the same group of ends that only managed 8 sacks as a group last season.

- I definitely like the fact that we go after a center, either Brown or Birk. I like Brown since he is younger and played tackle in college at UNC, so probably has more upside.
- But what about DE, Demetric Evans from the Skins who is great against the run and had 4 sacks.
- I would love Bills to get Gabe Watson at DT from the Cardinals, huge reason why there defense improved.
- I like Leroy Hill, but he to was arressted for Marijuana possession recently. So with Marshawn on the team, we have enough THC on the roster.
- Michael Boley of the Falcons could be a darkhorse at Linebacker. Supposed to be supremely talented, but didn’t play much last year.
- And if we look at Tight Ends, Owen Daniels and Bo Scaife would be nice additions.

I want to sign a vet C. If we don’t, we HAVE to take a Center in the first 2-3 rounds. I hate being hamstrung like that.

I have been on the Brad Meester, Terrelle Smith Bandwagon all along. Sooner or later a team need solid starters who don’t start fights at the end of a half with no time outs. Or a FB who actually hits the intended target at the line of scrimmage. Smith would bring a professionalism and maturity to the Bills RB corps that Macintyre, Barnes and 1st or 2nd year NFLers like Marshawn, Freddy and Omon lack. Positive and calming influence who can bring it!

So imho, in FA grab
Brown/Meester
Boley
Nate Washington (conspicuously absent my friend)
Terelle Smith

Better make this a dozen, as the Seahawks just franchised Leroy Hill.

The Sex Cannon?

Ahhhhhhhhh. I still don’t understand why we’d be interested in another turnover prone QB! Then again, he is more talented than the Chaz Batch and Ryan Fitzpatrick’s of the world….

I think jones would be a valuable upgrade depends on cost tho we arent completely bare at safety as we are at other positions. Bills should go after one of these veteran centers that helps anchor the line, i like the college centers but they will take a year or two to develop (i.e. Mangold on the Jets). I really like the addition of Toomer at WR. Anyone who actually watches Bills games know how anemic the offense can be. Toomer can be a #2/3 option like on the giants, and a great safety blanket for Edwards like he was for Manning. Both DE and SLB have to be addressed and I think there is better value at 11 for a DE. Either Brown or Orakpo with the first round pick, then go out and get a guy like dansby or crowder to solidify the LB position. Lastly, the bills need to address TE. Cut Robert Royal he is garbage, and do diligent research on who the best tight end is in this draft. I like Coffman personally, I think he has a little Dallas Clark in him but with no free agent options this is a position you have to get right! Trade for Tony G if you can prob cant but try.

HUGE difference between attitude and how you spend your free time. Crowder could be full of THC just as much as BLUNT MODE and Leroy Hill. I really like Hill but apparently the guy has some smokin problems as well. YIKES.

How are these NFL players supposed to be role models?

LAY OFF THE REEFER GUYS!

I heard a report the Colts were dumping harrison, what about him over Toomer?