WR Jeremy Maclin (potential pick?)

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:49 AM EST Comment 50 comments

Drafting a WR in the first round hasn't been talking about too much on this blog.

In my opinion there are only three defensive lineman that warrant the #11 pick in the first round for the Bills, and one may be a reach. Those three guys are DE Everette Brown, DT BJ Raji, and DT Peria Jerry (Jerry would be the reach).

What it looks like might happen, as of now, is that neither Raji or Brown will be there at number 11. If that happens, many fans including me feel the Bills should start thinking about guys like DT Peria Jerry and Center Alex Mack. Now, what I think is being ignored is the need for another WR.

Think about it. Besides Lee Evans the Bills still have no threat to go deep (something Turk Schonert referred to in his video on buffalobills.com). James Hardy was supposed to be a bit of a deep threat for the Bills, but who knows how long it will take for him to recover from the injury. Also, Josh Reed had injury problems last year and Steve Johnson might not be all we are cracking him up to be. Plus, neither Johnson or Reed are deep threats.

Basically, what I'm saying is that the Bills still desperately need another threat at WR arguably just as much as they need a DE or a C.

The receiver that I think would warrant the #11 pick is Jeremy Maclin. This guy is a playmaker, has great speed, he's elusive as you can see from his punt returns, and he also was a heck of a receiver as shown through his production at Missouri. I feel like the Bills would have a really hard time passing this guy up considering the success of Desean Jackson, and simply because they need another WR.

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I agree

I am one of the few who like Maclin, it seems.

After Brown, Maybin and maybe Orakpo, Maclin is probably next on my list. Obviously, I’d take Aaron Curry too, but he’ll be long gone.

We need more playmakers, guys who have the ability to turn nothing into something. We’ve got enough possession WR’s, we need a true threat at the position for once.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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brown, maybin, raji…..curry will be gone….i’d seriously consider maclin and harvin…playmakers we are in desperate need of. I don’t know how long I can continue to harp on it…I have been clamoring for 3 years for a pass catching TE and Robert Royal was never what I was clamoring for,…..with Lee we have a nice deep threat and a WR who could become more complete if we ever had a real #2 threat opposite him. We don’t. I’d take Maclin in a heartbeat and be as happy as George Costanza’s dad on festivus

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by MARVelous on Feb 21, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t touch Harvin. I don’t want another smallish, injury prone WR. If we go WR in the first, Maclin is the only option I’d go with (Crabtree being drafted top 5, of course)…

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree as well....

In my opinion. Maclin is actually the best WR in the draft. Yes, over Crabtree. Maclin reminds me a bit of Greg Jennings.

by Hambone on Feb 21, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He reminds me of Jennings a bit, but he really reminds me of Roddy White…

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by Kurupt on Feb 22, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Aaron Curry

Yea, I wouldn’t be opposed to taking Curry. Like you, I don’t think he will be there at although I think there will be starting caliber linebackers l#11. There are late first round and early second round outside linebackers that could start for the Bills too.

Starting LB’s include USC’s Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews. I also think South Florida’s Tyrone McKenzie could start, but I seem the only one to think so.

The Bills could maybe draft Maclin at 11 and then trade up for Cushing or Matthews. I don’t know, just a possibility.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 1:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I meant to say I don’t think Curry will be there at 11.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

and that there will be starting OLB’s late first round early second

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Instead of Michael Crabtree?

I need a pass rush threat….thought kurupt would be with me…but it looks like the weekly plea is now for a WR. K? Really? Is it he Marshawn thing?

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by the Uncommon Denominator on Feb 21, 2009 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

reread your post… you take Brown, Maybin and (maybe Orakapo) first. Still, a WR? Before TE? I don’t want Pettigrew @ #11, so I trade down, if possible. But WR at #11? For the Bills? Interesting!!!

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by the Uncommon Denominator on Feb 21, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We need playmakers. We need a guy that can take some pressure off Evans. We need guys that have run after the catch ability. There’s a lot of reasons why Maclin would work for us, though it’s obvious we do have bigger needs.

I don’t want Pettigrew at #11, and I wouldn’t even take him in round 1 unless we traded down to the late 20’s. I think we can find a very, very good receiving TE option in the 2nd-4th round, guys like Nelson, Casey, Ingram, Beckum and Coffman. If we are going to add an offensive player at #11, I want it to be someone that has dynamic talent, like Maclin. Pettigrew doesn’t do it for me.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

obvious we do have bigger needs.

I don’t know about that K. Another receiver to take pressure of Evans is a HUGE need. I’m not saying it’s more of a need than a pass rush. However i’m not sure pass rush is a bigger need than WR. It’s just so close and I think the Bills should take the best player, which I think will end up being Maclin.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

huh?

No way. Pass rush is still the biggest need and I still want that position addressed first. BUT if Brown and Maybin are gone, along with Curry, I would happily consider Maclin. I’m not liking Orakpo more and more every week.

What does Marshawn have to do with any of that?!?!?!?!

Crabtree is my #1 WR in the draft. Maclin is a distant 2nd. I can’t see Crabtree getting past Seattle.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Crabtree and Pass Rush

I agree with you in both these areas.

However, It doesn’t look like Crabtree will last until #11.

Like I said in the article, the only pass rushers I think worth the pick at #11 are guys that probably won’t be there (unless we reach for Jerry).

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Never

would I take Maclin at 11. The Bills have too many holes to fill to worry about a downfield threat. They have to be able to rush the passer and run the ball effectively first to establish the play action and create turnovers. The Bills need to be able to punch the opponent in the mouth on both sides of the ball.

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by Cutter3636 on Feb 21, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

rush the passer and run the ball effectively first

I agree that the bills need to rush the passer and run the Ball.

I don’t necesarrily agree that those are bigger needs than another receiver to take pressure of Lee.

Look, i’m saying that pass rush is a big need. The thing is that if Raji and Brown are not there, there isn’t really anyone in my opinion that would warrant a # 11 pick.

In this case I would support taking C Alex Mack, but you have to entertain the possiblity of taking Jeremy Maclin. He is a very good prospect and could have a big impact.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pettigrew at 11 would really set me off - I mean I would be HOTT

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Feb 21, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not just one T, but two? That’s how hot you’d be?!?!?! Ha

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

extremely and I couldn’t see them winning more than 8 games next year. We need a big free agency and a better draft to make the playoffs this year.

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Feb 21, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we need more than that to make the playoffs….

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Im picking up what you're putting down my friend......

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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 21, 2009 4:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maclin at 11 makes no sense...

So you have a top-paid WR, another financial commitment to WR Reed, a long term financial commitment to Hardy, and no you’re bringing in someone else with a high draft pick. If you’re worried that Hardy won’t be able to go this season, bring in a vet. If you feel that Hardy is not the answer that’s a different conversation altogether.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

What financial commitments?

Reed is in the final year of his deal and Hardy is making less than $500K per season the next 3 years. I don’t see why that’d be an issue.

I’m someone that doesn’t see Hardy as the answer….

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m someone that doesn’t see Hardy as the answer….

Then it makes sense to get a WR.

I realize that Hardy underperformed last year but I am not willing to give up on the kid yet. Very few WRs do anything of note in year one. year two and especially 3 is the big year for wideouts. I’m taking a wait and see on Hardy. I also think is you bring in another receiver in the draft you have to cut one of Roscoe/Hardy/Johnson (preferably Roscoe). I don’t want another developmental receiver though. I want someone established.

The financial package for Hardy isn’t bad at all. You’re right about that. It’s all under $550k for the rest of his contract.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not giving up on Hardy and I’m not basing my opinion on his stats/performance. The reason I’m not confident in him is how he looked out on the field. Slow, stiff, not willing to use his body to his advantage, etc. He just doesn’t look very good.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So you're not giving up on him but you are gonna draft someone to take away all his reps.

You either wait for Hardy or draft someone to come in and play ahead of him. You can’t have it both ways especially on a team with major holes like this one.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Hardy is a situational guy. I want a better player opposite Evans, and until Hardy does something to prove he’s more than a red-zone threat only, I think we need to upgrade.

Why can’t Hardy be a 3rd WR in a year or two?

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He can be a 3rd WR

but I don’t think they drafted him in the second round to be a niche receiver. Roscoe is the same way. We drafted him in the second and he hasn’t lived up to billing on the offensive end.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think it has to be that way. Everybody is talking about how the Bills should sign a vet WR and I don’t see how that would be any different from drafting Maclin. Sure Hardy gets pushed down the depth chart for this season, but considering his injury, he should be way down the depth chart. Drafting Maclin allows the Bills to let Reed walk after this season and gives what will hopefully be a very solid foursome for a long time in Evans, Maclin, Johnson and Hardy.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not a bad argument....

Especially if you assume Reed is gone after his contract is up. I just think that WR is a position you can address in free agency so we need to use that pick on another need like DE that can’t be addressed in F/A.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And cut Roscoe if you have to. He sucks and is overpaid.

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree on Roscoe.

You could put McKelvin or McGee back returning kicks and still get great results. Even Action Jackson.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This was a good reply

Hardy doesn’t make that much money at all.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If you’re worried that Hardy won’t be able to go this season, bring in a vet.

I’m not sure there is someone on the market that isn’t too expensive that would help to much Warren. I like Amani Toomer but that guy is really old.

I think Maclin definitely “makes sense”.

I like James Hardy a lot, but the bills are banking on him to be our #2 next year when he is coming off an injury. that is a big risk.

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bring in Maclin so he can learn on the job too?

Now you still go into the season still having Evans and Reed starting at wideout. If you bring in Toomer or another vet WR, they can at least push Reed for number 2. He belongs in the slot with someone else on the outside. Maclin can’t be that guy day 1 so I don’t want him. Is he going to be a good pro? Why not. Could he help the Bills this year? Probably not. I would rather spend the pick on a 2009 contributor. We have enough developmental WRs.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who says Maclin is a developmental WR? Why can’t he help from day 1?

He’d help right away. Quick twitch WR’s tend to have the ability to make an impact right away, while the slower, bigger WR’s take time.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Like Ted Ginn did?

Any rookie WR is a developmental WR to me. They can’t come in and start for you day 1.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ted Ginn wasn’t a great receiver coming in. I think a guy like Maclin is much better.

Of course, not every quick WR comes in ready to play. I wasn’t even trying to infer that.

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Like Deseasn Jackson did actually

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

For every WR you give that played well their first year.

I can list you three that didn’t. It takes a while for the rookie WRs to come along. In college they were too fast or too big to be covered. Here they have to create separation where it was always there before.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know about that. If you look at the history of the smaller, quicker WRs taken in the first round, I’d bet you find more guys who make an immediate impact than guys who don’t.

by kaisertown on Feb 22, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What do you define as immedaite impact?

I think a guy who comes in and catches 50 balls, 500+ yards, and 5 TDs is an impact. That’s a legit number 2 WR.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Please. Please. For me...

No WRs in the 1st round this year. Please.

by krytime on Feb 21, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Expand please...

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.

- Plato

by buffaloboy90 on Feb 21, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take a shot

Do you really think a 2 year player from a Spread offense will be able to come in here and start at the #2 and be a real contributor when:
(per Scouts inc.)

He struggles versus Press coverage
Isn’t willing to block
Turns the ball over

Pass

by freddyjj on Feb 21, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The pass rush has to be addressed first...

The Bills have to address their putrid pass rush. I think Orakpo or Brown will be the pick in the first round. Then pick up the best TE available in the second…Coffman or Beckum.
I agree with the recent story that Jones should be a top priority at Safety in FA along with Matt Birk at C.

by Harry Callahan on Feb 21, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I live in MO...

I got to see Maclin play on a regular basis. This is not to say that he wouldn’t be a welcomed addition to our squad, but you can’t really seriously be talking about taking him with the 11th pick. If we trade down then I can see it, but there are going to be some pretty good playmakers at the WR position available in the 2-3rd rounds (Hakeem Nicks, Iglesias, guy from Rutgers, etc) There isn’t going to be a huge 1st round run on WRs. I mean if every good DL is taken in the top 10 I suppose then we can talk seriously about making this draft pick. We can sign the Panda to that coveted 1 year deal that he’s apparently been angling for all along and that would push Reed and give Hardy and Johnson the time they need to develop.

I definitely do not want Pettigrew at the 11th pick. That just screams Donte Whitner style reach to me. If they trade down and get him then so be it, but not at 11. I just view no WR (sans Crabtree) worthy of that 11th pick especially since it would be a luxury pick that most teams that pick in the top 15 don’t have the luxury of making unless they have a huge glaring need at WR, which we don’t. It would be nice to have, but there are more pressing issues afoot.

BTW is Rey Maualuga (sorry if I butchered the spelling) still projected in the top 10?

by live6453 on Feb 21, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Rey is projected anywhere from top 10 to top 20.

But I don’t see the Bills drafting a MLB.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He could play middle...

And slide Poz outside and give us quite the physical tandem. Rather have him than Maclin or Pettigrew at 11. Everyone keeps saying that we need playmakers and this pick would help us in two spots potentially.

by live6453 on Feb 21, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs