Bills preparing to sign RFA Owen Daniels to Offer Sheet?

"Combine Buzz...The latest buzz circulating around the Combine is the Buffalo Bills covet Houston Texans tight end Owen Daniels....the Bills are expected to make a strong play for his services in the upcoming free-agency period."

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WTF

Aren’t the Texans going to give him the highest tender? Is this team dumb enough to give up a 1st rounder?

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That is quite dumb

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by killascript on Feb 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just a rumor, K…

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t find anything on the latest regarding Daniels’ tender, but did run into another interesting article in my journeys. It’s now on the front page.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh I know. But it wouldn’t make sense since I assume Houston gives him the highest tender, and they should.

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The fact that they haven’t tendered him yet is indicative that they’re trying to work out a long-term deal. They’d be smart to do it; he’s a HUGE part of a really solid Texans offense. I’d be shocked if they don’t have him signed to a long-term extension by next Thursday night.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

true...

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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know about that. How many RFAs around the league have been tendered so far? Teams have until the 26th to give out their qualifying offers and they usually wait that long to do so.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Im confused now.....

So many agree with the projections of possibly taking a TE like Pettigrew in rnd 1. What could be the difference in giving up a rnd 1 pick for one of the top stud TE’s in the game, knowing what you will be getting, than drafting a “so-called” stud TE in Pettigrew.
As much as I dont like giving up a round 1 pick for a TE, I would be ok with this move. Is it bold? Yes. Would it help now? Yes.
The biggest reason I make the arguments to not draft a TE in round 1 is basically because of the “bust” factor and giving up that round 1 money that you would be out with getting no production from them.
With the rumor of maybe landing a TE like Daniels, it would only make sense and it should make the Bills fans happy.
He’s a proven seam-buster, great hands and good blocker. “Proven” against NFL talent.
This, in my opinion, would be a good move.

by Hambone on Feb 21, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nobody here wants to take Pettigrew in the first round. Literally not a single poster. We are just acknowledging that it is something that OBD will probably consider.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

On the other post we were saying "wouldn't be shocked" not "let's take him now!!"

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t be averse to taking Pettigrew in the first, I’m just not sold on him at #11. So you’re half right, I think.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that OBD is considering it.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I meant with the 11th pick. That pick is what it would take to get Daniels if/when Houston tenders him that high and that was what I was refering to.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gotcha. I’m a bit surprised at this rumor, actually – Daniels is kind of in the mold of our current tight ends, though obviously he’s a much better receiving option. I honestly thought they’d target someone different, whether that meant a Pettigrew-type or an athlete.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not surprised because Daniels is by far the best TE who is “available” this offseason whether it be the draft of FA. Once Houston tags him with the first rounder I would expect any interest Buffalo has in him to go away. Buffalo seems like the kind of organization that spends/wastes time going over every possible circumstance (at least for offseason stuff) even if they are very unlikely. They have probably spent time scouting Haynesworth and Peppers even though they never had a chance and they have probably been keeping an eye on Aaron Curry just in case. At least that is the vibe I get.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If I am any front office...

I am scouting every available option. Haynesworth, Curry, Peppers, anyone. Not being prepared is the only mistake they can make in my book.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, but the question is how much time do you spend on that? Do you spend as many resources scouting Curry as you would Brown, Orakpo and Maybin?

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good question.

I would assume yes. You must be prepared if a guy falls in the draft. With that being said you may not have had the interview at the combine with a Curry that you did with a Brown, but you still put in a lot of hours. They have so many scouts and personnel guys on staff that someone is at almost every pro day to watch these guys and they have all the combine info. The only thing they don’t have is the face-to-face time with each guy.

As for the free agents, I think they spend time on everybody. I really hope they do. That’s what they get paid for. We here at Rumblings do it and don’t get paid for it.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe they should?

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by WABillsfan on Feb 22, 2009 4:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

get paid? :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have voiced in favor of Pettigrew

If Everette Brown is gone, I have no problem with Pettigrew. I would prefer to not take him at 11, but OBD has been none to reach for a player.

How many years can we go without making the playoffs...eventually the odds go in your favor.........right?!?!?

by Rudy916 on Feb 21, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My point was that taking Pettigrew 11th overall is nobody’s favorite likely outcome. I am actually something of a Pettigrew fan and think he is a Marcedes Lewis clone and would love to draft him in the 20s if we were to trade back, but there are easily 6 or 7 players I would grab before him.

by kaisertown on Feb 21, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

only 6 or 7 players before pettigrew?

Wow is all I can say. There has got to be about 32 players out there better than Pettigrew in my opinion. He just is not a first round talent. I think he is seriously overrated.

by Hambone on Feb 21, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What's the scoop on Daniels?

Better than Royal?

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by killascript on Feb 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

stats look good

But not if they are going to give up a first and pay him a boat load, which might be necessary.

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by killascript on Feb 21, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A tackling dummy can't fumble...

and thus is better than Royal

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

definitely

I actually called one of his fumbles this, I think it was in or near the end zone on a big drive (forget what game). I almost hate him on the field. The only thing worse, and unfortunately I;ve ssen it, is JP throwing him passes. It makes me sick

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by killascript on Feb 22, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As long as its not a first round tender.....

Im all for this.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 21, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

with

Pettigrew running a 4.87 today, he didn’t help his draft stock…..

Dainels would be a nice player. Jared Cook is the combine warrior I thought he would be back in Novemeber when I saw him play….But Beckum and Casey were sensational and both jacked up their draft stock today. Casey is a guy I’m starting to fall in love with

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by MARVelous on Feb 21, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I like Cook a lot

I bet he goes in the second before we pick, and Beckum will be gone in third before we pick. Casey would be a great 3rd round pick

If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.

by poz on Feb 21, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's a fanshot....

I posted it this morning…. “big press conference Monday” They’re gonna do an all-time bills team, etc.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's a 50th anniversary logo.

To be placed on Blue bottles and other things. Probably a shoulder patch too.

by twoeightnine on Feb 21, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And probably on tickets.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely.

It’ll be used in marketing everything. Since they don’t have much else to market.

by twoeightnine on Feb 21, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would love this...

It would be the first time we’ve had a solid TE in a long time, BUT I just don’t see it happening. There is now way the Texans let this guy go. The only way it may work is if we work out some sort of trade. I’d be willing to give up anything besides a first rounder.

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by evdawg419 on Feb 21, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hmmmm

I’m sure that the Texans would have done this anyway, but wouldn’t hearing about other teams interest in Daniels all but guarantee they slap him with the highest tender available?

There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?

by MonStarr_716 on Feb 21, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe...

It could be that the Texans value a 1st or 2nd round pick more than Daniels. If, for some reason, the Texans only tag him with the 2nd round tender I’d see that as them hoping that he got poached. If they sign him with the 1st round tender (or 1st and 3rd) then they don’t want him going anywhere.

I, for one, would be appalled if Buffalo had to give up a 1st rounder for Daniels.

by Ron From NM on Feb 21, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Remember a few years ago...

NE traded a 2nd rounder to Miami for Welker.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

2nd for Daniels is a do it now move for the Bills

That would allow them at #11 to either take the biggest need player, go BPA, or trade back if a QB, or top 5 OT falls to them.

by WABillsfan on Feb 22, 2009 4:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d go for a 2nd rounder, and then trade back from #11—mid 20s and second rounder.

by Ron From NM on Feb 22, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly, I prefer the trade back myself, but if we got say Brown @ 11

and got Daniels for a #2? AND if we got a decent FA C, that would be a killer day/offseason for us.

by WABillsfan on Feb 22, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

RFA deadline

According to Chris Brown at buffalobills.com the deadline for tendering RFAs is 2/26. He doesn’t list a time but I’m guessing it is 4 pm EST. I haven’t seen any stories that said that Daniels had been tendered yet. Chris Brown (on 2/13) doesn’t think Buffalo would sign Daniels if the Texans put the 1st rounder or 2nd rounder tenders on him.

I can’t see Buffalo giving up a 1st round pick for Daniels. I could almost see the Bills giving up a 2nd round pick. If the plan was to drop back from #11 and (say, with Philly) and pick up a C and second tier DE then giving up a 2nd for an established TE like Daniels might not be a bad idea at all. Staying put at #11, however, would then be a disaster. Buffalo simply must have a minimum of two picks in the first two rounds—or get no real help at all at DE and/or C.

by Ron From NM on Feb 21, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Unless they sign a Center...

which I am thinking is more and more likely. Specifically, Birk.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 21, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw a story (PFT?) that said Birk was thinking about re-upping with Minny. While I’ve said all along that I don’t care how Buffalo fixes the center position (so long as it is genuinely fixed), more and more it looks like the draft is the way to go.

1. Several centers are capable of stepping in and starting from day 1.
2. It would seem Buffalo will get a center no earlier than the late 20s and more likely in the 2nd round so it won’t take that #11 pick to get one of the better centers.
3. A 2nd or (gulp) 3rd round draft pick wouldn’t be expensive to sign—even a late first rounder wouldn’t cost as much as many free agent options.
4. A drafted center would provide at least 4 years of stability.

by Ron From NM on Feb 21, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

4. A drafted center would provide at least 4 years of stability.

Unless he sucked…..

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be maintaining stability, that of Fowler and Preston.

by Ron From NM on Feb 22, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we were going to get “4.8 40 runner” Pettigrew at 11, I would so much rather just give up our 11th spot and get Daniels. Hopefully the front office is smart enough NOT to go after Pettigrew at 11, idk thats my feelings

by The Wagon on Feb 21, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I’d really rather they ride it out this season with Derek squared and work to land Gresham in next year’s draft. In the long run, it’d be the wisest TE move for them.

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