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Breaking down Buffalo's likely free agency strategy


Might Bills pursue Houshmandzadeh? (US Presswire)

With the 2009 NFL Scouting Combine wrapping up today in Indianapolis, all eyes will be on the free agency spending spree that's about to commence. Black Friday isn't just the day after Thanksgiving, folks - there's another high-stakes shopping day to pay attention to, and it's coming up quickly.

The Buffalo Bills are in a tight spot. With a coaching staff sitting upon blazing thrones that make the term "hot seat" seem downright chilly, the Bills are in a win-now mode and are expected to be aggressive in finding players that can make an impact immediately. However, considering the current state of the economy, there is also a prevailing theory that the Bills will consider scaling back spending on veterans. It's a Catch 22, but for the staff and 90-year-old owner Ralph Wilson, winning is expected to trump penny-pinching.

Unfortunately for Buffalo, this year's free agent class is devoid of many difference makers. Considering the amount of statistical impact and leadership necessary for the Bills to make a serious playoff push in 2009, there's really only one logical way to go about attacking free agency. In terms of a plan for midnight Friday morning, here's how I think Buffalo's strategy could play out...

Step One: Make a run at offensive weapons
Outside of Tennessee DT Albert Haynesworth and Ravens LB Ray Lewis (both unlikely to be pursued by Buffalo), there aren't any defensive playmakers worth pursuing heavily out of the gate. There are good players, but none that will command the immediate attention of a Haynesworth or a Lewis. Offensively, however, there is one big name that the Bills very well could sniff around, and that's Bengals free agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Though he'll be 32 in September, Houshmandzadeh is currently on a three-season streak of at least 90 receptions and has 25 touchdowns in that time frame. By far the best receiver on the market, Houshmandzadeh is expected to garner interest from serious contenders like the Giants and Titans, but that won't stop the Bills from kicking the proverbial tires.

Beyond Houshmandzadeh, the pickings are slim. One productive name that has already been linked to the Bills is tight end Owen Daniels, a restricted free agent in Houston. In just three seasons, Daniels has quickly established himself as a bona fide receiving threat and is coming off of his first Pro Bowl invitation. Depending on the type of compensation necessary to acquire him, the Bills will seriously pursue adding Daniels to the roster. Buffalo is also expected to be players if Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin becomes available via trade. Regardless of the likelihood of these acquisitions, pursuing these names is smart - if the chips fall the right way, these players will be more beneficial to Buffalo's potential next season than any other player.

Step Two: Fortify two of four critical needs
When this community put together the team's extensive needs list, four positions received a grade of 'critical' - tight end, center, defensive end and linebacker.

At tight end, obviously the addition of Daniels would kill two birds with one stone. Beyond him, there are only project players (like Arizona's Leonard Pope, as an example) or lumbering vets available on the market. If the Bills miss on Daniels and aren't thrilled with the idea of a veteran project, this need will undoubtedly be addressed in the draft. Luckily for Buffalo, the draft is loaded with quality tight ends this year.

At center, there are several quality veterans that would instantly solidify a solid (on paper) offensive front in Buffalo. Baltimore's Jason Brown is the cream of the crop, and he's closely followed by veterans like Minnesota's Matt Birk (who may re-sign with the Vikings before Friday), Indianapolis' Jeff Saturday and Jacksonville's Brad Meester. Another option would be signing an unheralded reserve, such as Carolina's Geoff Hangartner, to start at center. However, considering the depth of this year's center class in the draft, it's not absolutely imperative that a center be added.

At defensive end, there's little impact to be found in the veteran pool. Kalimba Edwards has played under Dick Jauron before, but isn't exactly a spring chicken at age 29. Bertrand Berry is even older, though he's still considered a solid edge rusher. Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell has already made plain his desire for a speed rusher; if the decision-makers listen, that player will likely be a draft pick.

At linebacker, Buffalo is expected to pursue a veteran to start on the strong side - and it's not expected to be Angelo Crowell. Players such as Channing Crowder, Michael Boley and Morlon Greenwood are most often mentioned, but Indianapolis' Tyjuan Hagler should garner consideration as well. However, bringing in a veteran isn't a done deal, as the team also left the door open on potentially moving middle linebacker Paul Posluszny outside and adding a middle linebacker as well.

Ultimately, the Bills have options at each position, but they should look to address at least two of these areas via free agency. Leaving any more than two unchecked for the draft is extremely risky, as it's unlikely the Bills will be able to fill three or more critical needs with impact players in the draft unless they can find a way to trade down.

Step Three: Find a backup quarterback
Five-year veteran J.P. Losman's Bills career is finally (and mercifully) at an end. With starting quarterback Trent Edwards still developing and still frail, the Bills will look to add a veteran backup. Rex Grossman is likely on his way out of Chicago and has ties to Jauron, but he himself is an injury risk as well. Kyle Boller is believed to be a strong candidate. Other veterans like Jon Kitna (who is expected to be released by Detroit) are possibilities, and younger guys like Ryan Fitzpatrick and possibly Dan Orlovsky will be considered as well. There aren't many appealing options, but names like Boller, Grossman and Kitna have experience and can win games in a pinch. That's all we need out of this position.

Step Four: Add some spot contributors/depth players
These needs aren't critical, but the Bills should look to address them if they can.

Running back: Marshawn Lynch is facing a league suspension, and the Bills are in a tight spot and will likely address the running back position in some capacity. Fred Taylor is visiting the Bills today, but it's unclear how Taylor would fit into a rotation that includes Fred Jackson as well.

Wide Receiver: If the team misses on Houshmandzadeh, it's still highly likely that a receiver will be added simply because of James Hardy's knee injury. Luckily, there are several solid receiving depth options available this year, with Amani Toomer probably the most coveted. Possible releases such as Torry Holt will be intriguing as well, but this player is expected to be a veteran, not a rookie.

Offensive Line: Pending the re-signing of tackle Kirk Chambers, Buffalo's tackle depth is solid. The interior is another story. The team may wait until the draft to address this area, but a veteran like Adrian Jones might be appealing as well.

Defensive tackle: John McCargo can't be relied on as the fourth member of the rotation, so the Bills would be smart to look for an active player that competes well against the run. I've heard Mike Wright's name mentioned so many times it's ridiculous - the Patriot is an underrated name. This might be addressed via the draft as well.

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Buffalo needs to be as flexible as possible with this plan, because having a rigid attack to free agency often leads to breakdowns and missing out on targets. There are a lot of players available, and there are a lot of under-the-radar talents that would really bolster Buffalo's depth. Ultimately, however, this strategy is the best way to go about adding true impact to the roster. Beyond that, Buffalo's main goal should be paring down its critical needs in such a fashion that they can enter draft preparations with only one or two major need areas. That will make their goal of drafting the best player available much more feasible.

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its starting to look like Birk will be resigned so i’m hoping for 3 main targets..housh, brown and daniels – if we can land 2 of those guys i’d be very happy.

also – i can’t wait until friday morning – we could have someone signed by 1:00am – i love that stuff (how can they make deals when they’re not suppose to talk to the players before FA begins….oh wait…ahhhhhhhh ;) )

I do like the idea of Taylor – my issue is that we would have basically 3 guys that are very similar – i personally would like a “scat” back – however – taking Lynch under his wing to teach him to act older than a sophmore in highschool would be worth the extra cost.

i also see them going after crowder – I think he’s high on their board and “crow” might see the door

Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?

by J2 on Feb 24, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WABillsFan, the resident left-coaster, ran an open thread last year from midnight until like 4AM, and has offered to do the same this year. I’m pretty sure K is up around midnight most nights, too. We’ll have an open thread for the start of free agency again this year, too.

We’re not going to get two of Houshmandzadeh, Brown and Daniels. Just won’t happen. They’ll go for Housh OR Daniels, and then if they miss on both, they might target Brown. If they get either Housh or Daniels, they won’t be able to afford Brown. Really that simple.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don’t sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death. And I like coffee a little too much, sleep doesn’t come easily.

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a little insomniac as wwell

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Feb 24, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don’t sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death

Illmatic fan?

There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?

by MonStarr_716 on Feb 24, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh i'll

be up….until at least 1 am ET…..it’s my favorite night of the year NFL off-season wise

You didn’t mention Sean Jones I didn’t see? You don’t think he will be pursued?

I think Housh, for $20 mill, 3 years would be a worthwhile investment. He is kind of an older Boldin. He’s a TOUCHDOWN maker, no off-field problems, and would be a perfect complement opposite Evans. You wouldn’t have to give up picks you would just have to pay the man more than any other team. If there was one guy in FA, I would want its Housh. Strong hands and he would do the dirty work, and free up Evans deep. The only way we get involved in Haynesworth is if he isn’t signed a few days in FA, and we come in and just decide to offer the most money out of any team. His situation will be fun to closely monitor

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 24, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don’t think the Bills will pursue Sean Jones. And I’m not going to cry myself to sleep because they didn’t listen to me, either.

I also highly doubt we pursue Haynesworth in any capacity.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we’re probably not going to get two of them – your right – in the end then i’d rather take daniels and get my C in FA then live with our WR corps or get Toomer.

Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?

by J2 on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

get my C in FA

or the draft….proof read moron

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by J2 on Feb 24, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather get TJ Hoooz and Jones

and get our DE, C, and TE in the draft in that order.

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

but I don’t see Housh here.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 24, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm up since my job keeps me up till 3am PDT, so I got nothing else to do but surf the web past midnight most days

So I’m happy to keep the post rolling through the night till Brian comes on in the morning.

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by WABillsfan on Feb 24, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish Housh was younger so I could get excited about the possibilities. I just don’t like the idea of a soon to be 32 year old WR that couldn’t average 10 ypc this past year getting a big contract. Doesn’t seem like the best of ideas…

I still don’t understand why Taylor is visiting and why the Bills would want him so much. Unless they already know Lynch is getting a 6-8 game suspension, I’m not with them on this potential signing. I still think he goes somewhere he’s he’s no worse than the #2.

I think we’ll get a LB inked by the end of the weekend. Not sure if I can see anything else.

Of course the Bills would be interested in a light, high motor DT.

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What’s wrong with signing Wright as a #4 DT at a bargain price while simultaneously stealing some enviable depth from a division rival?

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing wrong with it

just makes sense that the Bills would be interested in him.

Wasn’t he a part-time starter for NE? Are you confident he can be had by someone for a bargain price?

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about grabbing James Sanders from the Pats too?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not out of the question, but I haven’t heard his name mentioned among my many discussions.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you think that is? I couldn’t even guess myself. Am I right in thinking he’s a good player?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL why? Because I’m just a fledgling internet proprietor. My list of sources isn’t very long. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny. But he is kinda good, right?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve always thought he was solid enough. Don’t know much about him to be honest.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Taylor is a lock to see the field any more in NE than in Buffalo. They’ve got Benjarvis Green-Ellis and Sammy Morris, and we all know the Big B is not one to fly the main route.

I’m going to hold my stance that I think the Bills would be wiser to give up what it takes to land Boldin over paying for Housh. I think his value to the team is greater, and would offset the Cards asking price. I can definitely see this as a lucrative option if the Bills trade down with Philly, then trade that first (#21) to AZ. I would welcome the move, especially more than drafting Pettigrew.

Crowell’s coming back, I just feel it.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 24, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Crowell’s coming back, I just feel it.

Maybe you should go sit on the toilet? Because Crowell isn’t coming back.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

Seriously, why the hard stance now? I thought you were half in with his return?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 24, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I only ever said he was a contingency plan. The chances that Buffalo lets it get to that contingency plan are incredibly remote.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so what LB

will we get?

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 24, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned yesterday that Maualuga fits their profile. But that’s a secondary target at this point.

I listed Crowder, Boley, Greenwood and Hagler as potential targets. I have no idea which direction they’ll go, but I’d put the chances of Crowell coming back at less than 1%.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Boley not getting more pub?

What did Cincy do with Brandon Johnson?

How come Ellison didn’t sign yet?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean Landon Johnson? He’s in Carolina. The Bengals just signed Brandon Johnson last year.

Boley’s not a strong-side fit; he’s a weak-side fit, and our weak-side spot is currently occupied.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless something happened to Brandon Johnson in the last week, my impression is that he’s a RFA (http://mvn.com/thebengalblitz/2009/02/bengals-free-agent-analysis-who-to-re-sign.html). I wonder what the Bills would have to give up to get him. I don’t even think he was drafted.

Is Mitchell that unflexible as a LB that he couldn’t switch? If so, that somewhat explains why he came so cheap last year.

I’m not saying I’d go for Boley or Johnson. But then again, maybe I would. I forget – did Rumblings cover these guys at all? It’d be worth it to take a look I guess.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is Mitchell that unflexible as a LB that he couldn’t switch?

That’s not the point. The coaching staff signed him to play the weak side. He’s only played there one year. He’s not moving.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And they drafted Poz to play middle LB, but we speculate on moving him outside. Why couldn’t we be a little more open to such a possibility? I’d have to think Mitchell is a veteran and a high character guy that even he would make a move if the team would be better for it.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Put simply, I think they’re more comfortable with Kawika on the weak side than they are with Poz in the middle. And I think they’re pretty darn comfortable with Poz in the middle.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How about this RFA from Bengals?

SLB Rashad Jeanty
6’2" 245 lb starter
Will likely be a low tender so 4th rd pick to sign

by freddyjj on Feb 24, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bengals gave him a 2nd round tender.

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

doh!!!

disregard previous transmission

by freddyjj on Feb 24, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think of Housh in terms of a perfect bridge to Hardy or Johnson. If Housh was 26, then we would be conceding to Hardy or Johnson never being a factor. Especially Hardy since he can only play on the outside.

So I am actually happy that he is up there in age, and I would be willing to give him a hefty 3 year contract with the possibility of cutting ties with him the last year if Hardy or Johnson seem ready. Plus Housh isn’t expecting a 6 year deal like a 25-26 year old receiver would. Seems like a perfect scenario to me.

by Buffalonian on Feb 24, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Housh isn’t a bridge though. He’s still a very good, productive player. You better believe he won’t be coming to Buffalo to be a stop gap. He might come under a big contract as a #1 WR, but he won’t be a 2 year fix. That’s what a guy like Amani Toomer would be good for.

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about FA DEs.

by copperbillzfn on Feb 24, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, we talked about Kalimba Edwards and Bertrand Berry, didn’t we? Beyond those two, the class is pretty terrible.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Smith would play better today than many of the FAs.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 24, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Atonio Smith from Arizona. He played well in the super bowl

by copperbillzfn on Feb 24, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think another year for Trent and if we can get a TE (hopefully Owens) it will be be better.

by copperbillzfn on Feb 24, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Smith is a consideration, but he doesn’t fit the profile of what Fewell is looking for, i.e. he’s not a speed guy. I think Fewell has convinced Jauron by now that we have enough of the blue-collar ends, and that we need to supplement the current guys with some freakish speed. Edwards and Berry are speed rushers. Smith isn’t.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand the fascination with speed to be a pass rusher.

Pass rushing requires a certain skill set. Speed is important, but it is not the end all / be all. I thought about Canty the other day and Igor Olshansky the other day. Granted, they are 3-4 ends, but why couldn’t they play in a 4-3? They might end up getting to the passer as much as the current guys we have, bet I bet for sure the run game would inprove by leaps and bounds.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You have to have speed to be a consistent threat as a pass rusher. That’s just fact. What makes speed rushers great are well-developed moves, a low center of gravity and good first and last steps. Orakpo, Brown and Maybin are all elite speed and step wise, but their move repertoire is underdeveloped. All three need coaching.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just worry about the Bills ability to stop the run. I’d like bigger DEs to help with that. Teams ran on us when they wanted to or needed to last year, and have done so for several years.

When we moved away from Gregg Williams defense, I thought we’d get bigger ends with the cover two, considering the DTs would get smaller. That didn’t happend though. We stayed with these smaller guys.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The cover two never means bigger ends, it means smaller in the front seven and bigger in the secondary, in most cases. In fact, Schobel lost about 15 pounds, and I know Kelsay and Denney trimmed up too.

If you want bigger DEs, you’d better start pining for a different defensive system first.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that. I just think they (Kelsay & Schoebel) are too small, and have been too small. That’s my beef with them, more than their pass rushing follies. I don’t think they really play the run that well when push comes to shove.

I just think an ideal 4-3 end should be bigger than they are.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’d think that since they slimmed down, they might actually improve their pass rush. But each has gotten worse at that, if that’s even possible….

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you think slimming down improves a pass rush? It’s a combination of power and speed. If you lose some power, and don’t pick up the speed, you won’t be any better.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Weight doesn’t equal power. Power equals power. They haven’t lost any of their power, but they didn’t gain any speed from the weight loss. That’s the problem.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it me, or are you and I in constant disagreement as of late? Newman!

I respectfully disagree to an extent. I’ll use myself as an example. When I played sports, my best weight to run was 210. But, when I was going around 230, that’s when I was the strongest.

Weight does have something to do with power, especially if you are a finely tuned athlete at the pro level.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Power = Energy transfered (work) / time. Work = Mass x gravity x height. Mass is often measured in kg, which is a measure of weight. So, while it is true weight is not equal to power, it is a factor in its calculation.

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My physics teacher from high school would hate me right now. He’d love you, though.

My point was that if you’ve got natural strength, you’ll have it and be able to play well at any weight.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: "Work = Mass x gravity x height"

Isn’t that PE? I thought when height was invloved, it was potential vs kinetic. I could be wrong – it’s been awhile.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is the same formula because PE is stored energy which

could be used to do that amount of work. Height is involved in the calculation of work because it is more work to lift something a longer distance.

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

[Raises hand]

Professor?

I miss your Megan Fox avatar.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I am.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too much skin?????

If it is over the line, I will change it. If you just have a Nun fetish, watch “The Sound of Music” :-)

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, it’s fine. I just happen to be a huge fan of Megan Fox’s, uh, work.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

She has a nice body……of….work……yeah, that its it!

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha.

Most important thing is to be smarter at the end of the day than you were at the beginning.

BG – what is next in the off-season here? We’ve covered rehab, gun control laws (state & federal), IT, and now phsyics. What’s next?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BG – what is next in the off-season here? We’ve covered rehab, gun control laws (state & federal), IT, and now phsyics. What’s next?

Bass fishing… obviously.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a lot of people out ice fishing on the lake right now for perch and bony pickerel. Temp is 25 with a 15 mph wind. These people have way too much disposable time. Come spring the bass fishermen come from all over. I can see them swimming under my dock.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Feb 24, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the fishermen but the fish!

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Feb 24, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

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when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on who the fishermen make made

Then they MAY be swimming under the docks with some concrete fins!

I told the witch doctor that I was in love with the Buffalo Bills, and instead of telling me to say "Oh eeh oh oh ah, ting tang walla walla wing bang" in order to make me feel better he told me to buy a gun and end it.

by WABillsfan on Feb 24, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

These people have way too much disposable time.

I find this laughable that a guy posting on a Bills blog would say this. I spend hours on here a day!

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 25, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they get wireless out on the lake

blogging and fishing at the same time……brilliant!!!!!!

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when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Feb 25, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mass is measured in kg

Weight, however, has to do with a force, usually gravity, acting on a mass.

:-)

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 24, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt gets bonus points!

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when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nerds.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So why would they slim down? They didn’t want to get quicker, or at least keep whatever speed they had? I really doubt they lost any of their strength….

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If I pined any more, I would have cones growing out of my ears!!!!!

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when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand Joe P. What do you pine for?

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brian wrote above
If you want bigger DEs, you’d better start pining for a different defensive system first

My response didn’t make sense where it appeared.

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m an idiot. I should have caught that.

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was probably just a poor attempt at humor by me

You must have loved my physics lesson about power :-)

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when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been in the waiting room for this going on a year now.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 24, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I don’t think drafting Orakpo will work. He’s not a speed guy either.

by copperbillzfn on Feb 24, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty much all he is at this point. He doesn’t really have any pass rushing moves and relies on his speed to beat OT’s…

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Orakpo ran faster than both Brown and Maybin. He’s the very definition of a speed rusher.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Orkapo’s a blank slate. He could become dominant with the right teacher.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 24, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

speed is one thing

but quickness at the snap is most important. you’ll see some evaluators only time a players 20 and not worry about the last 20, especially for ends and tackles. that’s because most of their effort is done in that 20 yards and getting to their top end speed is most important. Orakpo lacks the explosion that Maybin and Brown have so I would argue the speed rusher point.

by gatornation on Feb 24, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am with you.....Oroidpo is my third favorite behind Maybin and Brown

Mayock said that Maybin will be one of the best edge rushers right away and take about 2 years before he can play the run as well. Since we are looking for a situaitonal pass rusher anyway, I am willing to wait for Maybin to develop into our version of Jason Taylor.

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by Joe P. on Feb 24, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your point is valid, and it’s exactly why I favor both Brown and Maybin to Orakpo. But Orakpo has short-area burst as well, it’s just not as explosive as his two competitors. Orakpo is a speed rusher.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the combine measured different distance times. the 40 is not a good way to judge a DE or any DL. I’d like to see the DLinemen run a 10yd burst. 20 at the most.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Feb 24, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they do measure the 10 and 20 yrd time

just not sure that they publish it or at least it isn’t as readily available as their 40 times.

by gatornation on Feb 24, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they definitely measure those as part of the 40’s….I too have been looking for those numbers, but I’m not sure they get listed anywhere except within NFL front offices….

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Orakpo

is speed. As Warren Sapp said he couldn’t play left DE but he could play Schobel’s spot and collapse the pocket. He ran well yesterday, and has speed. He can play the run too. He is the whole package

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Feb 24, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is so imperative to address two of the four in free agency.

I thought all along it would be OLB and C but it’s looking less and less likely that we get Birk. He was the center I had hitched my wagon to but oh well. I also was hoping we could sign LeRoy Hill but the didn’t work out either.

They will probably address OLB in free agency. It’s just their MO. They will probably sniff around Daniels and be rebuffed. They will probably not address DE in any meaningful way in free agency. They will probably sign a free agent center.

By the draft I expect TE and DE to be their targets on draft day. I expect that OLB and C to be addressed with C also being a (later) draft day pick. Sorry Ron.

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 24, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I don’t think Daniels is realistic, unfortunately. Houston could probably match any offer pretty easily. So why would Houston give him up for anything less than a 1st rounder?

As for Jason Brown, that would be a great signing, but that all depends on what happens with RayRay and Bart Scott. If the Ravens lose both those guys, I think they almost certainly will retain Brown with the money they will have saved from not paying the LBs.

I think that leaves us with Saturday (and his eventual replacement via the draft) and Crowder. On the bright side, there might be enough $$ left for an impact safety in that situation. Is there any interest in Mike Brown? He will come cheap because of his injury history, but he is great when healthy, has a relationship with Jauron, and his back-up (Bryan Scott) is already a borderline starter.

by Donte's Inferno on Feb 24, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes!

If the Bills fail to secure an edge speed rusher in either the draft or free agency, the defense will be no better this year. Simply put, you CANNOT rely on one man (Schobel) to rush the QB. On offense, Daniels MUST be the answer. Trent loves his TE and the Bills don’t have ONE. Why do you think he is always getting hit?

I agree that if the Bills don’t get atleast two players at four of the positions of NEED via FA, with our tough schedule, it WILL NO DOUBT be a long season.

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Feb 24, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BG usually pulls off two or three lines a week that make me think he’s in the wrong profession as an IT guy. Watch out Florio…

by krytime on Feb 24, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Strong-Side OLB

Does Hagler currently play the strong side? He is 6’0" 236lbs, sound like a weak-side backer to me. With Bowen coming back from injury, Ellison, and Digs back, we have enough smaller LBs. Boley is smallish too at 6’3" 223lbs. I am with you Brian in the thinking that Crowder will be the choice, he is 6’2" 250lbs and plays mean, he started 40 games in the last 4 years, is still young and he doesn’t get any sacks or picks, that sounds like OBD’s M.O. to me.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The thing I like about Crowder is that he’s got MLB experience, which allows the team to remain flexible in their stance on Posluszny. Crowder’s also pretty decent in coverage.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A. Smith Not An Option?

I’m sorry but if Antonio Smith isn’t even on OBD’s radar, I will be highly disappointed. He is similar to Spencer Johnson, both can play both the DE/DT positions, creating the desired (word of the day) “flexibilty”, and he is 6’4" 285lbs the same S. Johnson at 6’3" 286lbs. And from what I observed, he has the motor OBD covets as well. He has also been fairly productive in limited playing time.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So what do we need another Spencer Johnson for? We need a guy with actual pass rush ability, not some flexible DT/DE….

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

S. Johnson/A. Smith

Not saying we NEED him, but we are lacking quality depth at the DE/DT positions, he is better than McCargo (from what I have seen of Big Mac anyway), Copeland Bryan, and possibly C. Ellis (although he has had so few oppurtunities to show his potential) and should come at a bargain price. Because of the flexibility that he has, it also creates an open roster spot; we have done the same thing for the O-line with guys who can play multiple positions.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We don’t need a depth player to replace Bryan and McCargo, we need someone who can help us get after the QB. I don’t want two undersized backup DT’s just because they happen to be able to slide out and play some DE.

~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say he wasn’t on their radar; on the contrary, I’ve heard his name pop up in some recent discussions I’ve had. But as Kurupt said, he just doesn’t fit the profile of the type of player that Perry Fewell wants. We’ve got enough of Smith’s type – tough, physical, limited athletically. We need a complement of some sort. Smith isn’t that.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Have you discussed Maualuga from USC?

This kid is a beast of a LB. I think he can move inside AND outside, and give the defense versatility. If the Bills can land a pass rusher (I know a long shot) in FA, this would make our defense a lot harder to predict. 4-3 cover 2, mixed with some 3-4 blitz pkgs, and even som 2-5 schemes if they can land an athlete like Peppers. Just some food for thought.

On offense, I love the idea of a good TE. A center seemed obvious last year, and of course depth at RB. I don’t know if another WR is the answer, but it never hurts to have guys that are game changers.

by bad karma on Feb 24, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we talked Maualuga yesterday. Take a gander at yesterday’s post.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

After reading all that…….I don’t know what to think. I guess some think it could work, and others don’t. Being on the West Coast, I see a lot of USC games, and can say this kid is a stud for sure. But if you measure greatness by 40 times, and vertical jump, then maybe he’s not “our guy.”

by bad karma on Feb 24, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But if you measure greatness by 40 times, and vertical jump, then maybe he’s not "our guy."

I certainly don’t – he can be a little slower or not as strong or not jump as high…but if he plays “lights out” who cares.

give me a football player – plain and simple

Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?

by J2 on Feb 24, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anthony Hargorve Anyone?

AG has been cleared to play by the NFL, I wonder how much he would want as a prove-it deal to come back. I liked Hargrove for his on-field play, his off-field issues were small when compared to others.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I HIGHLY doubt you’ll get many people agreeing with you on this one. Why on God’s green earth would the Bills consider bringing this low-life back? They’ve got enough character risks as it is. Hargrove isn’t exactly a good football player, either. Everything in my head screams ‘no’ at this thought of yours.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

um, no

we need players that are going to make a difference on the field. adding to our already mediocre crop of d ends does nothing for this team. the only difference maker we have on the defense was a rookie last year.

by gatornation on Feb 24, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Playmakers

“the only difference maker we have on the defense was a rookie last year”

I totally agree with that statement, and I believe if the OBD drafts a DE #1, the question is moot. The purpose of my original question was to simply create the discussion relating to FA needs and players. IMO, Hargrove could be had cheaper than either Denney or Kelsay and provide more of a pass rush. Kelsay seems to be a leader so I doubt he is going anywhere, but I am not a big fan of any of our DEs. They all seem to play like 3-4 DEs, take on blockers and stay engaged. No push, no threat to the QB.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He should have been on a prove-it deal before he got in trouble

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Green Earth

That’s fair. But Buffalo doesn’t exactly have skilled pass-rushers and he was a better at getting to the QB than Kelsay or Denney.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, that’s an entirely different argument. If that’s your criteria for signing an end, then maybe we should move Billy Buffalo to DE. :)

The best way to address the position is with a quick, speedy rookie. That’s really the long and short of it.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Billy Buffalo

What’s his 40 time? : )

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Approximately 9.2. He’s toying with the idea of an experimental surgical procedure in which 75% of the mass of his head is removed to decrease wind resistance. We’ll see if that speeds him up.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 24, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

9.2!

Wow, he’s faster than everyone of our TEs

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really. Hargrove had a whopping 2.5 sacks in 22 games as a Bill. That’s not even better than Kelsay, ICK!!

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by Kurupt on Feb 24, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bills don't need depth

they need players that can start. Houshmandzadeh would start for the Bills. Haynesworth would start for the Bills. These are the type of players the Bills need to sign if they are to reach the next level.

by gjv on Feb 24, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Depth

I completely disagree, quality depth creates competition, competition drives quality players to succeed, weeding out those that can’t cut it…Hargrove isn’t the answer to start at DE, but neither are Kelsay or Denney. I bet if you counted the number of defensive snaps played per sack, Hargove’s numbers would be better than Kelsays. Again, I am not advocating that we sign Hargrove over someone else in particular, but IMO, until we add better DEs to our roster, no one should be excluded from helping the team if they have the potential.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arn’t you tired of a roster filled with depth players competing to start on another 7 and 9 team? Don’t you yearn to have some superior players on your team? If your willing to give 10’s of millions to an unproven rookie why not 10’s of millions to proven veterans. What if Haynesworth was in this years draft. Would he not be worth what the number one draft pick will get?

by gjv on Feb 24, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Without A Doubt

Of course I would love superstars abound on the Bills, but only if they are drafted by the Bills. I don’t believe in paying rookies that much guaranteed money and IF I were at the head of OBD, I would do what I could to move down from #11 and acquire another 1st day pick. I also don’t think that Haynesworth is as good as the talking heads say he is.

I love the idea of Housch playing in B-Lo, but at what price? He’s 32 and will want quite a bit of up-front money and will stall the progression of the younger WRs. No thank you, IMO the need is not as dire as it is reported by the football media. Torry Holt (if released) is in the same category, since the Bills are more than one player away from being a contender, I wouldn’t make that move. Byrant Johnson is available, I would try to sign him to a deal anywhere between 1 and 3 yrs. Maybe kick Brandon Lloyd’s tires around and see what he would want as compensation. I also like Devery Henderson and Brandon Jones as URFA WRs.

by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 24, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so Housch is 32 so don't sign him...

But you would be for bringing in a player like Johnson on a one year deal? What’s the difference between 32 and not around in two years and Johnson and not around in two years?

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