Bills continue busy Thursday, re-sign OT Chambers
by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 2:22 PM EST
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The Buffalo Bills have re-signed reserve OT Kirk Chambers, according to ESPN.com's Tim Graham. Terms of the deal have yet to be disclosed.
Chambers has spent the past two seasons in Buffalo and has seen extensive playing time at both tackle positions as well as right guard. With the team releasing OG Derrick Dockery earlier in the day, there is some speculation that Chambers might get an opportunity to compete for a starting spot on the inside, particularly if current right guard Brad Butler moves to the left side. If not, he'll continue to give the Bills invaluable depth along their suddenly swiss cheese-like offensive line.
Buffalo has already released TE Robert Royal today, as well as re-signed FB Corey McIntyre.
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I’d obviously like Ron from NM’s opinion – but from what I saw – he was solid when filling in – I think we found a diamond in the rough with Chambers. Good signing
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For folks who missed it, Ron’s opinion was to move Brad Butler to left guard. Chambers has experience at right guard, so if he’s competing for a starting job, that’s likely where it’ll happen.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Funny thing Is
I think Dockery and Royal will be considered the top available FAs at their positions.
by labill on Feb 26, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Haha, that’s actually not a stretch at all. Funny stuff.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think Royal certainly is...
Is there any free agent TE worth anything out there?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Baker....
he may be the only one.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Baker, Dustin Keller.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MRW you may wanna sit this out for a while........lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch – Royal will go somewhere and actually excel.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 26, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD!
Maybe they want him to replace Dock at starting guard. I dunno if he’d be an upgrade, but he’s deffinatly going to cost less.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like Chambers.
and the Bills had two fullbacks in camp last year. Not a stretch that they re-sign McIntyre and draft a guy who maybe ends up on the practice squad or replaces McIntyre.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McIntyre
I was hoping he’d be gone, not resigned. Maybe its a STs thing, but I don’t like him either.
Chambers guard, top flight center? Sounds good, but I would still draft a FA center’s replacement
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Feb 26, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's a camp thing.
They had Owen Schmitt and Darien Barnes in camp last year together. Why not have McIntyre and a rook this year?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why'd Schmitt come to our camp
if he played for the Seahawks?
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, yeah, I’m confused as hell on this one too, MRW.
If by “Owen Schmitt” you mean “Jonathan Evans”, then yes, you’re correct. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoopsie...
confusing my free agency and training camp in my mindmeld right now. I knew we had someone and I just thought his name was Owen Schmitt.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2 for 2 so far i this thread Matt. Take a deep breath….
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2 for 2?
What do you mean? Where else did I have a brain fart?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Baker….
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh that’s nothing… a cross between Dustin Keller and Chris Baker….. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We all were pining for Schmitt. Well, I know I was anyway.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 26, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Busy day at OBD
What’s in store for tomorrow?
To all: thank you for the very entertaining posts today. Even though it’s mostly speculation, I’d like to see OBD sign Birk. I’ve heard he plays chess and football. (Well, maybe he doesn’t play chess…)
Get the Bills back to the big game!
by Blitz on Feb 26, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So is today the calm before the storm, or the storm before the calm? I have a feeling we might be a bit quiet tomorrow, much to our disappointment!
What RFA’s have we not tendered yet?
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ellison and Wilson off the top of my head.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Old list via Tim Graham
Permalink and the notes in parenthesis are mine.
Restricted (Bills have right to match offer from other team)
LB John DiGiorgio (signed)
LB Keith Ellison (nothing)
CB Dustin Fox (nothing)
QB Gibran Hamdan (nothing)
WR Justin Jenkins (signed)
S George Wilson (nothing)
Exclusive rights (cannot negotiate with other teams if tendered qualifying offer)
QB Matt Baker
DE Copeland Bryan
LB Blake Costanzo
RB Fred Jackson
DE Corey Mace
DE Ryan Neill
TE Derek Schouman
TE Jonathan Stupar
Of the ERFA I haven’t heard about anybody but Jackson…. Anybody else?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the list of Buffalo’s other ERFAs. Most all of them will be brought back.
Jon Corto
Bruce Hall
Chris Denman
C.J. Hawthorne
Felton Huggins
Brandon Rodd
Marcus Buggs
Vince Hall
Mike Jefferson
Marcus Smith
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda like that Bruce Hall fellah.........
Same with Corto………..everyone else…….bleahhhhhhhhhhhh
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Per Tim Grahm
Buffalo Bills retained Fred Jackson’s rights with a one-year tender for the minimum $460,000,……The minimum tender was expected, but Jackson doesn’t want to sign it. Jackson has insisted he deserves a multiyear contract.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-5-114/Bills-tender-Fred-Jackson-and-other-RB-items.html
There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?
by MonStarr_716 on Feb 26, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fanshot MonStarr_716.
Thanks though. That’s from a couple days ago. Jackson doesn’t want to sign it because he wants a long term deal.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops...
my bad….and i usually stay up on the fans shots around here…
There is only one NFL football team that plays in New York state...and Canada?
by MonStarr_716 on Feb 26, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No prob.
It was on the front page for a little white too.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome job so far today by OBD......
See ya Royal and Dock………..welcome back Kirk…….(Stanford guy BTW ;) )
Keep the good times rollin……..
Im pretty much boycotting the main board over a BB.com……its blowing up over there.
Much more mellow here.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Blowing up how?
I’m curious… and why don’t you ignore it anyways? :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
anytime ANYTHING happens
600 threads get made all saying the same thing…….and then the stuff that’s actually worth talking about gets bumped to the back pages…..Everyone has to make a thread saying why they love it or hate it….
And I have been ignoring it a lot more lately….now I just go to the politics and other sports sections of the board…….and then come here to get the real Bills news.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good info...
I stopped going there because there was nothing substanative.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh there is at times......
but its covered in 95% Bullspit
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the trivia the one guy does, it’s freakin hard
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Great to be a Bills Fan
We are the only team in the NFL who’s punter is the best player on the team.
by gjv on Feb 26, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that adds a lot to the discussion, that does.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian, you need a little sense of humor if your going to be a Bills Fan.
by gjv on Feb 26, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s got humor – you just forgot the /sarcasm at the end.
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s been my MVP for about 5 years now – no kidding – he’s my favorite Bill
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not true.......
The Raiders and Shane Lechler……..he’s their MVP every year……..and now he’s making an avg of 4 mil a year……….LOL
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you think he has the impact that Lechler has?
Lechler almost single handedly Killed us in the Raiders game…….if it wasnt for Rob Ryan’s prevent defense……we woulda lost.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say he easily has a bigger impact than Lechler. The guy is by far the best cornerback in the league. In 2007 QBs threw a ball to the guy he was covering 35 times. That isn’t even 35 completions, that’s 35 passes attempted.
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough....
I can see that as a good reason as well
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Asomugha is the best player on the team.
But his impact isn’t nearly the same. He’s never tested because teams don’t have to. Lechler is a game changing punter.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many more yards per game, field position wise, does Lechler gain than an average punter?
And how much worse would that defense be without Asomugha on a yards per game basis?
I have to think replacing Asomugha with an average corner would hurt them much more than replacing Lechler with an average punter.
Compare his stats to the rest of the punters, he isn’t that much better than the average NFL punter.
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well they couldn't be that much worse.
They did give up the 27th most yards in the NFL.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And their pass defense gave up 7.2 yards per attempt, two tenths or a yard more than Buffalo and 1.6 yards less than last place Detroit. Oakland actually held opposing QBs to a 79.3 passer rating which was the 12th best total of any defense.
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should franchise 'em
Like the Falcons
by syrbillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Falcons franchised Michael Koenen (their punter) too.
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, I thought I read Bengals who franchised Shayne Graham. I think it’s time for me to take a little break from the computer screen!
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we will be calm
and I think that’s the right strategy…..maybe go after a interior OL, Fred Taylor, and possibly a LB….
I love how this site is a bunch of dunder heads like the BB message boards…i would lose my sanity and my 3 months without a smoke all in one massive BLOW UP if i was over there
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Feb 26, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we are dunderheads?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea seriously ouch
haha
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant “isn’t”…
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha yeah I knew that Brian, I was just calling him out.....lol
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct
bri….“isn’t” kinda creepy how you knew what I meant though…..!
MARVelous
by MARVelous on Feb 26, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should know I was ready to ban you. :P
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 26, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone hear what Chambers got for a contract?
by krytime on Feb 26, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not yet – i’m thinking we get him for a good price and he ends up outplaying the contract a la jason peters – he seems like he’s going to be solid to me
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a starting Guard position?
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's calling the shots at OBD today?
Whoever it is I want to congragulate him or her on starting the roster clean up. My only concern is who at OBD has the ability and vision to build a winning team.
by gjv on Feb 26, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Inner Circle of Doom!
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isnt Modrak calling the shots this off-season?
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Negative. They’re still doing it by consensus.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a known heirarchy to this inner circle of doom or is it Communist by nature?
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by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More Socialist than Communist
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is there a suckalist heirarchy? oh – they invented that with the inner circle – gotcha
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do you think they
pass around a speaking stick and that you can’t talk unless your holding it? Maybe they have a rules board posted on the wall? Rule 1.) Respect other members of the circle, Rule 2.) Do not interrupt a circle member who is holding the speaking stick, Rule 3.) Do not raise your voice at another circle member, Rule 4.) All members of the inner circle are to be treated as you would want to be treated…..etc etc
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
poz you got it all wrong
the first rule is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE INNER CIRCLE
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no speaking stick...
pure conch ala Lord of the Flies.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kill the pig, cut her throat, spill her blood!
Sorry I really liked that book.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kill the beast, get its hair, it would make a lovely chair!
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a book?
j/k
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahaha
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the hahahah was a reply to you J2 not to myself
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, it fixed itself. nevermind.
If we can finagle DE Brian Orakpo and C Alex Mack I will not complain about this team for a whole season. I promise.
by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i figured – when i was reading your rules i thought that fit in perfectly and your was funny as well homie
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe more like a Wiccan Druid Coven? At least they would get to wear robes and chant
While dancing in the moonlight.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they make a big “wickerman” and burn him in hopes of appeasing their God for good luck?
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by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
creepy.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Nicholas Cage’s finest hour.
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by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was obviously Face Off or Con Air....
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way dude! Fast times at Ridgemont High!
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by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love how you linked....
That’s funny
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
National Treasure 1 & 2 and Adaptation!
I nominate Snake Eyes for something very different.
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
National Treasure 1 & 2
Maybe 1 but 2 was a big two thumbs down.
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by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey they aren’t good movies, but they were fun. Honestly, any time it’s on HBO or Cinemax, I stop and watch. I’m not too ashamed to say that I’m looking forward to #3.
~K
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, bad movies are fun to watch sometimes. When you go in not expecting much, or expecting it to suck it can be fun to watch……kinda like our team.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but bad movies don’t cost at least 50 bucks a pop to see…
by krytime on Feb 26, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what the internet is for.
by thefourwinds on Feb 27, 2009 1:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Go see Avenue Q
The internet is for porn.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 27, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Modrak has more voice than he did last time
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds pretty badass actually, like we have a team of Lex Luthor, Dr. Evil, Darth Vader, and the Penguin running the scene, problem is they always lose to the likes of Superman, Austin Powers and the New England Patriots
"Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?"
by ArenZimm on Feb 26, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DC comics references only? You're killing me!
What about Dr. Doom? Magneto? No shoutout for Marvel?
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by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone knows you can't mix Marvel with DC
It’s like hot dogs with mayonaise, I love them both but for some reason you can’t bring the two together
"Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?"
by ArenZimm on Feb 26, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true enough my friend
I never could get into the massive cross over they did. Hulk vs Superman?? Wolverine vs. Lobo?? What kind of matchups are those?
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by poz on Feb 26, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had the Batman vs. Predator collection when I was younger. It was pretty good. Predator basically killed everyone except Batman.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my entire childhood was Batman the Animated Series, hell my entire childhood was Batman, my mom made me this awesome Batman costume when I was 5 and I would run around attacking evil doers in my neighborhood (ie the dog, my old neighbor’s cat, my old neighbor) non of them could escape justice while I was around
"Where else would you rather be than right here, right now?"
by ArenZimm on Feb 26, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The hot dog flies out the damn bun every time!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 26, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol – that would be our heralded inner circle – brandon, modrak, dj, wilson – I think their the “key” components right now
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess what I’m asking is , what individual is making the final call?
by gjv on Feb 26, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s still consensus-based.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Dockery is now the best G in FA
My thinking is that Brown was talking about G vc C pay only to get his salary negotiations to start at a higher level. How many teams that are interested in Brown wanted him to play G? Hopefully, with Dock in the FA pool, any of those teams that wanted Brown to play G will go after Dock, meaning less competition for Brown. I say pay Brown G money and play him at C or G depending on how the draft goes.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
dock is probably the highest out there for guards right now – he’ll get snatched up pretty quickly i’m guessing.
i doubt this does anything to improve our chances on getting Brown – but I guess we’ll have to wait and see
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Brown still qualifies as the best guard in free agency even though he might be signed to play center. Geoff Hangartner, Cooper Carlisle, Chris Kemoeatu and Mike Goff are some of the other names out there. I think it’s fair to say that Dockery will wind up getting one of the 2 or 3 biggest contracts of all the FA guards.
Stacy Andrews is another name out there. He blew out his knee last year and probably won’t be ready for the start of the season, but he can play RT or either guard spot, is monstously huge (6’7’’, 342) and is still fairly young (soon to be 28) with some upside left.
by kaisertown on Feb 26, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would sign Mike Goff pretty easily...
he’s durable and opened holes for LT for a while now.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall Simmons is now loose as well
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to John Clayton....
The two moves [cutting Dockery and Royal] would free up a total of about $8 million in salary cap space for a team that has missed the playoffs for nine consecutive years, the worst streak in franchise history.
That’s a lot more than I thought it freed up…….
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t sound right. Maybe in future cap dollars, but in terms of this year, I was working under the assumption that it was just shy of $2M.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know right.
He is a Hall of Famer…he can’t be wrong. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL.com used the same figure...
but the Associated Press could be quoting Clayton as the wording is verbatim.
The moves would free up a total of about $8 million in salary cap space for a team that has missed the playoffs for nine consecutive years, the worst streak in franchise history.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WGR has it at $1.2M for Royal and $400K for Dockery.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is what we've been saying all along.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
doesnt’ mean we’re right though
Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?
by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m 99% sure we’re right on this one.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he meant total salary or something....
I just don’t see where that figure comes from.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do.
Dockery’s cap hit this year was $5.8 million. Royal’s was $2.3 million.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
so subtract the cap hit from the cap figures you gave…. and that gives us the numbers from WGR…. OK. Makes sense. So it saves them the money but not the Cap space (which honestly doesn’t matter much cause we don’t spend to the cap)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that seems right
Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?
by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s exactly how it happens.
Cap hit – Accelerated money = savings
Royal: $2.3M – $1.1M = $1.2M
Dock: $5.8M – $5.4M = $400K
Total savings = in reality, right around $1.7M
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well they can do their numbers the way they want to so maybe he’s closer – I know we have that whole cash to the cap philosophy – but who knows if thats written in stone.
seems like we’d free up more than just 2M
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
most of dockerys bonus was already paid
when we signed him to an 18 million bonus most was paid out in the frst 2 years. The rest of the contract is void after his cut anyway. So, Claytons numbers definitely make sense
by pozfan51 on Feb 26, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A signing bonus is prorates over the life of the contract, though.
It wasn’t a roster bonus it was a signing bonus.
And pozfan51 – if you hit reply to my original message it organizes the thread a little bit better by folloing through on the thought as opposed to starting a new one.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are all signing bonuses prorated?
i thought with our cash to the cap philosophy – they would pay that out immediately
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are all signing bonuses prorated?
for the bills I should clarify
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by J2 on Feb 26, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they are.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's my understanding...
No matter when we pay it it is pro-rated for salary cap purposes. Now if it’s a roster bonus then it’s not pro-rated…
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Think its interesting...
that while Brownie over at bufffalobills.com has posted updates today, none of them address today’s roster moves… so I’m guessing there are more moves to be made?
Anybody know off the tops of their heads how far under the cap the Bills are now?
by BuffCrunch on Feb 26, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This was posted a little over a week ago, but it’s a little inaccurate now. There are some releases factored into that final figure that haven’t happened yet, and others (Dockery) that aren’t. So take it for what it’s worth, and don’t forget to factor in the extra $4M from the league, but that’ll give you a ballpark.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As for Brown...
He is handcuffed. The Bills haven’t made the releases official to my knowledge. Schefter at NFL.com is allowed to post info from agents or players whereas Brown must go by what the team says.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Official guys!
Permanlink so you can frame the Royal release….
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Brown also discusses replacements....
Filling the now vacant left guard position can obviously be done either through free agency or the draft. Pittsburgh free agent Chris Kemoeatu is widely considered the best free agent guard option in the league and is expected to test the market. The Jets are also reportedly poised to release guard Brandon Moore.
Another consideration could be Bills veteran free agent lineman Kirk Chambers, who has served primarily as a swing tackle for the team the past two seasons. Chambers is set to become an unrestricted free agent.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear god you guys do not want Chris Kemo. Whatever team gets stuck with him is going to regret it – I think that any team that is considering taking him should realize that the pittsburgh steelers let him go. The O-line isn’t exactly a position of strength for pittsburgh.
Hi guys. I’m mocking for the bills on “behind the steel curtain” and am boning up on Bills knowledge. Don’t mind me.
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by steelguy99 on Feb 26, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Worries Steelguy99
Chris “Cheesecake” Kemoeatu is way too soft for us. That guy is simply not very good compared to the money he will want, I like Brandon Moore waaaaayyyyy more than Kemo. What disturbs me is the idea that Brownie is floating the idea out to gauge the fans support of such a move.
“Pittsburgh free agent Chris Kemoeatu is widely considered the best free agent guard option in the league”
I never thought much of the guy and I haven’t read a single post that even mentions him a quality player much less the best FA G in the league. Come on OBD, not another Tutan Reyes signing!
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As “labill” says above:
The funny thing is I think Dockery and Royal will be considered the top available FAs at their positions.
Good year to be a crappy TE or guard in the draft. I have a feeling there is going to be a fistfight over Brown this year but the steelers will be happy no matter who gets him because it won’t be the ravens.
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by steelguy99 on Feb 26, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about you guys?
You need a center. :-) Right?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’d be great. The steelers have been freeing up some capital to make some moves in the FA. From the looks of it almost every single team is salivating over Brown though and the steelers won’t have the money to compete. That’s if they even want to compete, the steelers never seem to pay big bucks for FAs.
Most expect the steelers will draft a center this year and I’m happy with that scenario. He’ll sit at guard for a year or wait in the wings though as our current center is probably the most stable part of the line – for what that is worth.
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by steelguy99 on Feb 26, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to our humble corner...
We feel much the same way about Dockery. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we take Dockery and you take Kemo I’ll shoot myself.
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by steelguy99 on Feb 26, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys run one hell of a blog over here, by the way. Not that this surprises me, your fans are rabidly loyal and I mean that in a very positive manner.
Our resident bills bar: http://www.b2restaurants.com/buffaloblues/
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by steelguy99 on Feb 26, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ALL HAIL BRIAN…ALL HAIL RUMBLINGS!
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I’m not Hitler.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't grow a mustache :-)
Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do
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by Joe P. on Feb 26, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell could you possibly know that?!
It’s true. At the tender age of 23, I can’t grow lip hair. I’m perfectly capable of a gnarly mutton chop, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m the exact opposite. I can get my full goatee going but the side burns are as hairless as my baby girl’s butt.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You… complete me?
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, now that was just creepy
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sorry.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The weird thing is I found it less creepy coming from you, then say ….Joe.
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by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re telling me it was creepy!
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Brian, that was a creepy move.
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just took a quick spin in Cerebro :-)
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by Joe P. on Feb 26, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been called a lot of things, but mutant is a new addition to the list.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I always liked Nightcrawler, outside of looking like the spawn of satan
Being able to teleport anywhere would be AWESOME.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK....fine
The Force is strong in my family…..Happy!!!!
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by Joe P. on Feb 26, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There isn’t a shot in hell that we sign another “big name” guard after the Dock fiasco. They’ll target Birk and find someone cheap and smart to plug in at left guard. That might even be a rookie.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mack baby!
Kidding, MAYBE
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like a plan...
You mean like Max Unger or Alex Mack??? :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys aren’t out of the question. We do know they they talked to LSU’s Herman Johnson at the Combine.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey if we go the following we could have a heck of a running team
Peters, Butler, Birk, Mack/Unger, Walker
That would be a tough line to keep from mauling you!
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True true...
If Williams can stay healthy. Big if.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Williams?
Am I missing something?
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Butler!!!
Holy cow guys!!! Brain farts galore. I am going home. I’m still at work and I keep makign these mistakes!
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 for 3 baby!
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am home now and have a steak and nachos with a Sam Adams...
I think I’ll be OK from now on. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 26, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it Matt!
It’s 8:30 and I know I should have them but now I’m craving nachos.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Adams.......Uuummmmmm!!!!
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by Joe P. on Feb 26, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Chambers this past season and I think he will be a solid player
I think Ron is right and we see a new line going Left-Right as follows:
Peters, Butler, FA/Draft C, Walker/Chambers, Walker/Bell
If the Bills were a drug, I could only they were speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bell Baby!
If Bell got stronger in the lower body over the last year, than I am fine with that lineup, I really like that kid.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could be
I like Bell as well, if he gained 20-30 lbs
The Bills CAN win every game
by killascript on Feb 26, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Where have you seen him? He’s never played a down of professional football outside of practice and preseason. He only has 4 years of organized football experience total, 3 of them spent at a school 99% of football fans probably don’t know even exists. He’s got potential but if he’s our answer this year we’re f*#@^%.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Athletic Potential
Here is a post by BG back from 1/5/2009:
- Demetrius Bell
6’7", 307 pounds
Age: 25 in May 2009
Contract status: 3 years remaining (UFA after 2011); owed $1.41M in base salaries.
- Buffalo’s coaching staff is really high on this kid, but they didn’t want to put him on the field in 2008 because they wanted to keep him in their weight program. They think he’ll be ready to contribute as a reserve in 2009, and he has the capability to start beyond that point. Bell is an outstanding developmental project that could start producing for Buffalo as soon as next year.
I agree with that assessment, you don’t have to, but 300lb men with quick feet, long arms, smarts, & big hands are rare commodities. Due to his lack of playing time and good coaching his technique is his weakness.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I saw his Levi Denims dunk in college. : )
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should see the show his Wrangler’s put on.
by krytime on Feb 26, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Preseason
289: Sorry I didn’t answer question in my last post, but preseason was the only place I watched him play…I liked what I saw.
by NorCal BillsFan on Feb 26, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's ok. I thought you meant as a starter.
Honestly, I don’t want him to see the field at all this year. He’s too raw and if he’s playing that means whoever is starting is injured. Let him get another year under his belt. Don’t forget, the staff thought Ellis was going to be a contributor this past year and that didn’t quite work out. Linemen take time, especially if you’re as new to the game as Bell.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that linemen take time and that Bell is pretty raw, but at this point he could very well earn some playing time. He doesn’t need to spend the whole year on the side line.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamdan was re-signed. Woooohoooooo.
Plus Dustin Fox. Ellison, Wilson, Jackson and 7 others were tendered.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 26, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After reading about it some more and looking through the comments, was it really worth it to cut Dockery to save $400K? I know it was less of a financial move and more of a “you suck” move, but are we going to find anyone better in FA or the mid rounds of the draft? I really don’t think so. Dockery was pretty awful in 2008, nobody will argue that, but he was pretty solid in 2007. I’m still a little worried that this is just going to be another major hole for a long while.
It’s one thing to cut a guy, who’s played poorly and save $8M in cap space, but to save $400K? Unless he had some crazy bonuses due soon, why couldn’t we have just let him come to camp with the caveat that he is fighting for his job and will be forced to earn playing time? Wouldn’t that have been a better scenario? If he didn’t win the job, cut him in the preseason. Instead, we have another gaping hole to fill in FA or the draft. Can someone figure out if there is anything more than playing poorly and a big future contract in play here????
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by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Really, can’t you just bench the guy and try to light a fire under him or something?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They save 400k to the cap...
but the amount of money they save for Ralph is significant. Salary is the important part here because you know they are not spending to the cap. They free up the money they would be using to pay these bums to pay some other bums. The signing bonus was already paid so that only matters in terms of the salary cap.
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