Potential Bills: C Matt Birk
During the process of identifying the Buffalo Bills' biggest positional needs, the Buffalo Rumblings community nearly unanimously listed a pass-rushing defensive end as the one spot where the Bills most desperately needed an upgrade. Tight end, center and linebacker closely followed. We have already begun the process of profiling potential Bills free agents; for reference now and in the future, all of these profiles will be available at this link.
With the NFL's free agent signing period set to begin less than three weeks from today (midnight on February 27), we here at Rumblings continue the process of profiling several top-notch free agents that the community has identified as worthy of donning the red, white and blue in 2009. Buffalo's need at center is as dire as their need at any other position; the only debatable topic is whether or not the position is as important as others where attention is needed. Wherever you may stand on that topic, Vikings C Matt Birk has to be an intriguing free agent option simply because he's a solid player at an area in need of a serious upgrade. The veteran pivot has anchored Minnesota's offensive line for a decade and has earned six Pro Bowl nods during that tenure, but at age 33, the Vikings are reportedly preparing to let the veteran hit the open market.
Matt Birk
Age 33 at start of 2009 season
6'4", 309 pounds
11-year NFL veteran out of Harvard
I asked SB Nation's Vikings blogger, Gonzo of the Daily Norseman, if he'd be willing to say a few words about Birk, his playing and abilities and his upcoming free agency. The quality of Gonzo's response to my request, both in writing and in what it says, is too good to split up. Here's his email in its entirety.
Matt Birk has been starting at center for the Vikings since the team let go of Jeff Christy after the 1999 season. Birk is also the last link the Vikings have to the infamous 1998 team that went 15-1 and lost the NFC Championship game to the Atlanta Falcons. That was Birk's rookie year, having been selected in the 6th round out of Harvard. He's a local guy, having played his high school ball at Cretin-Durham High School in St. Paul.
He's been selected to the Pro Bowl six times (2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007), and was named an All-Pro in both 2000 and 2003. Birk is still a very good blocker, equally adept at run blocking and pass protection, but his greatest strength is what lies between his ears... did I mention that he went to Harvard? Because he did. He's been making the line calls for every different offense that the Vikings have installed since he's been the starter, and was given a lot of credit for the big season that Daunte Culpepper had in 2004, when he set the NFL record for total yardage with 5,123. His play did slip a little bit in 2008, but he's still one of the better centers in the NFL despite that. However, the Vikings are apparently under the impression that said slip is the start of something bigger, and between that and his age (he'll turn 33 this July), the Vikings will more than likely allow Birk to hit the open market.
Birk has been a highly visible figure in the Twin Cities for a long time as well. As you saw from the link above, he's active in the United Way, and he's been named the Minnesota Vikings Man of the Year for six years running thanks to his charitable works. In addition, he was one of three finalists, along with Eagles safety Brian Dawkins and Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner for the 2008 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award (Warner wound up named the winner). He's also a spokesperson for the Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund, which has been established to provide financial assistance and coordinate social services for former NFL players that are in need for various reasons. He co-owns two restaurants in the Twin Cities area, one in Minneapolis and one in St. Paul, and lives in the area during the off-season with his wife and his four children.
If a team is looking to upgrade at center this off-season, they could do far worse than Matt Birk. He could very well be the best available center in free agency this free agency season, and if the Vikings DO allow him to hit the open market, the odds are pretty good that he won't last very long. He's a damn fine player on the field and, quite possibly, a better person off of it.
Does Birk "Fit the Bill"?
In a word, absolutely. I've been of the opinion all along that if when the Bills address their need at center, it should be done with a veteran. Seriously, we can't have a rookie trying to block the likes of Kris Jenkins, Vince Wilfork and Jason Ferguson next season. That's a bad idea. Birk is a wily veteran that has paved the way for one of the league's most explosive rushers (Adrian Peterson) over the last two seasons. Set aside notions that he's on the decline; that shouldn't matter much, because he's not likely to get a super long-term deal anywhere. As a 3-4 year stopgap, Birk makes a ton of sense, and it'll allow the Bills to be more flexible on draft day. Birk and Jason Brown are both extremely intelligent investments in my book.
Any thoughts on Birk that you'd like to add? Vote in the poll, and let's talk some about Matt Birk this fine Saturday. Many thanks to Gonzo for the valuable insight!
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I have been on the Birk bandwagon!
I think two years is probably a better time frame but with the being said we should sig nBrik and draft his successor. At the very least if we sign Birk we can re-sign Preston for his reserve depth and get an undrafted center to try and develop or address it next year. I’d prefer the first option though.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 7:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is all about the money
Depending on the deal, this could be a good or bad signing. Just like signing a FA DE would not stop many here from using the number 11 pick on a DE, signing Birk would not stop me from using our 2nd round pick on his replacement. If we signed Brown, then I would be more likely to let Preston stay on as a backup.
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by Joe P. on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
right because Brown would be the center of the present and the future...
whereas Birk is the center of the present only.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we keep preston to backup all interior positions – he’s a serviceable backup. But signing Birk for a moderate contract is definately worth it. We shouldn’t pay out of the rear end for him, but market value or a little higher would be fair.
anyone have any ideas on what he will probably ask for?
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by J2 on Feb 7, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll compare him to Kevin Mawae cause they are both old but still good.
Three years ago Mawae left the Jets for the Titans got a 4 year, 13 million dollar contract with a $4M signing bonus at the age of 35. Expect Birk to be looking for something similar. I don’t know about the number of year but around $3.5M per year.
2 years, 7 mil, the entire contract guaranteed. Anyone down for that?
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I'd buy that for a dollar"
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by Joe P. on Feb 7, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That seems like a good deal for the Bills
I like Duke Preston, but the Bills could use another interior lineman like Birk. Birk may be better than Preston. His reputation is good, but I don’t know if he is better than Duke Preston at this point in his career.
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by buffaloboy90 on Feb 7, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is better than Duke Preston at any point in either's career.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Birk will ALWAYS be better than Preston
If you disagree than you’ve obviously never seen Birk play.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Best option at Center
Brown would be great at center, but Birk should be our top priority if we get a C via FA. I like Birk better because of his expirience, his intelligence, and mostly, he’ll be MUCH CHEAPER than Brown.
IMO we sign Birk for 2-3 years and draft the best available center in the 2nd round to be mentored by Birk and we’d be set at center for the next 10 years.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Birk is cheaper than Brown...
but Brown would fill two holes on the roster (current Center and Center of the future) while Birk and his protege would be two people for one spot.
Brown – 7M a year
Birk/Draft – 4.5 a year but for someone we don’t know will work out.
It’s just enough of a difference to be enticing to take the later (which is what I want to do).
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW - I am waffling if you can't tell
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a tough call
which is made tougher because we don’t know if either one will actually hit the open market and want to play for the Bills. Both are sure to get a lot of attention.
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by Joe P. on Feb 7, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hang on....
I am all for Birk but I’m surprised all of you are so gung-ho about a trusting a key position to a 33 year old performing when many of you don’t want Bertrand Berry because he is 31 years old. If you don’t think Berry is a good idea to fill the hole at DE because hes too old and may not perform than I’m going to conclude that you don’t think center is a crucial need to fill if you’re not raising the same questions about Birk.
Well I do think center is a crucial need so I will raise that question. While I am well aware that offensive lineman tend to be successful well into their mid thirties there should be red flags raised that the Vikings think the slip is severe enough to warrant releasing.
the Vikings are apparently under the impression that said slip is the start of something bigger
Hello……this is a serious thing to consider! I would guess the Vikings are letting him go now because they know there is a excellent center talent in this years draft. Maybe they draft Mack. If the Vikings, who have an All-Pro, are going to try for a center in the draft, the Bills would be once again demonstrating we are a lower tier franchise if we pick up their toss asides and don’t take advantage of the top notch centers in the draft.
I like Birk, I really, really do. And I will be jumping for joy if we sign him but he IS NOT our best option. Not by a long shot. In order, I would say our best options are signing Jason Brown, drafting Alex Mack, and then signing Birk. And he is a distant third.
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by poz on Feb 7, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Berry's position is about speed...
Birk’s is about intelligence and strength.
Kevin Mawae – very successul 38 y/o center.
Name some successful 38 y/o DEs.
While I agree Brown is the number one option, he may be too expensive.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a very simplistic description of the Defensive End and Center position. Why would anyone have to name a successful 38 year old defensive end? Berry is 31. I’m sure people could name some successful 31 year old defensive ends.
I think Berry makes the Bills a better team and I think Birk makes the Bills a better team. I’m with Poz on this one though. I think many people on the boards want Birk simply because they have heard of him or because he made the pro-bowl or something. If he was really THAT good then the Vikings wouldn’t let him go. I hope the Bills can sign both of them for fair deals.
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by buffaloboy90 on Feb 7, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It may be simpistic but it's the truth...
How far does the Center have to travel if he isn’t pulling? Three inches.
How far does a defensive end need to move? Well five-ten yards to get to the QB. Don’t forget turning and chasing the ball carrier, etc. You can say I’m oversimplifying it, and obviously I am, but the point is realistic and not over-simplified.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Theres is truth in simplicity
the reason you only have 3 or 4 DE that are still good in their mid 30’s league wide is because the position recuires a lot of speed and strength.
OL are usually great well into their thirties because as they developpe their speed is replaced by intelegence t their position, which i would argue is much more valuable on hte offencive line.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he was really THAT good then the Vikings wouldn’t let him go.
Read Gonzo’s thoughts again and tell me that he sounds happy about Birk potentially leaving.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know
Birk was from Harvard and made all the line calls. That got me sold. May sound silly to you guys, but I think that’s the key for the Bills’ OL. I have been complaining all season that the OL was not coached well, and they kept failing to recognize what the opposing defense is trying to do. Having a “captain” on the LOS to direct all the blocking responsibilities is more important than having any 1 player. We have skills on the OL, but the line leader can elevate the whole group. In fact, this will lessen the negative effect of the Bills trading Peters away.
Of course, we need to draft someone in later rounds to groom as Birk’s successor. That sounds like good investment to me.
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by moncheri on Feb 7, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
your right
We don’t need a dominating centre as much as we need an intelligent one here, and thats what Matt Birk is, an above avrege to great centre and can EASILY recongnise blocking assignments for the entire line.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have been complaining all season that the OL was not coached well
So do you want a new coach or a new center?
Bills trading Peters away.
Before, I said the Bills should trade Peters. Now I think otherwise. You just don’t let a player as good as Jason Peters go. I was watching tape on him this year and the guys is flat out unbelievable.
I don’t know if the line is not being coached well. That’s a pretty bold statement considering you probably have never been to a practice. The line pass protected pretty well in my opinion. Run blocking could have been a lot better, but I think it got better as the season went on.
I’m of the opinion that no changes to the starting lineup need to be made unless it’s Birk for Preston. Even if we draft Mack, I still would prefer Preston because of his experience with the system.
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by buffaloboy90 on Feb 7, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want BOTH
I’d prefer to get a new OL coordinator AND a better Center than Preston for the run game. I don’t think the Bills will be changing OL coordinator, so we need an intelligent Center who can help direct blocking responsibilties. Birk is better than Mack at this point in time.
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by moncheri on Feb 8, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well we know we're getting a new OL coach.
Did you mean Off. Coordinator? I think TUrk will step it up this year.
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by MattRichWarren on Feb 9, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and I would not want to take Mack in the first round unless Aaron Curry, Everette Brown, Michael Johnson, BJ Raji, Peria Jerry, Brian Orakpo, and Aaron Maybin are gone. And I don’t think all of them will be gone.
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by buffaloboy90 on Feb 7, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem signing Birk. Yes, he’s old, but as far as I’m concerned that just means we should sign him for no more than 3 years. Some old players have a lot left. Top 10 center is a decline from top 5 center, but it’s still a good center. If we sign him, I’d want us to keep an eye on value at centers, that is look for centers who we have rated higher than where we pick. If we get lucky, we get a guy who Birk can groom as his replacement. If not, Birk is under contract and we wait until next year when it becomes something of a priority. Now, I wouldn’t mind signing Brown and getting stability or trading around and drafting Mack, but I would have no problem with Birk coming here.
by Hopefulcynic on Feb 7, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we sign Birk, I want us to get either Mack, Unger or Woods in the 2nd round
That means we have our SMART starter out there, a very good C/G combo guy who moves Preston on out of the house. We also have his replacement on hand so if by the 3rd year of his 3 year deal he is downsliding badly, we can just put his replacement out there. Plus, this means Mack, Woods or Unger will have 2 years of NFL level strength training and coaching before they hit the field, making them even better, THAT I can live with happily.
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by WABillsfan on Feb 7, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome abord the sign birk and draft bandwagon ;)
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call it a bandwagon
as just about everyone can agree to it as a solid move. its just rational and I think it is a wise move. But just because the move is rational doesn’t mean we shouldn’t think before we all agree to it. Here is something to ponder. The Vikings have the best running game in the NFL. Adrian Peterson has been running some of the best rushing football many of us will ever see behind Birk. The Viking would not dare to meddle with such a successful system unless they KNEW something was wrong with Birk at this point in his career. Even if his decline was from a top 5 to top 10 center they would not be looking for his replacement. But they are, they are looking to replace a key cog in the most successful runing game in the NFL. Something doesn’t smell right to me. Gonzo of the Daily Norseman acknowledged that Birk’s play slipped a bit towards the end of 2008. This signals to me that his stamina is decreasing at a fast pace. He couldn’t hold up for the whole season. It also raises questions about how good he can be in 2009.
Don’t get me wrong, Birk would be an upgrade, but there are serious questions as to how much of an upgrade and for how long. There is an immensely talented center draft class in the first 2 rounds. You really think that OBD will draft a great center if they sign Birk? No they won’t. That to me doesn’t make him worth it already. He is to me an alright answer to our center woes as after signing him we will be in the same position as we are now two years from now.
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by poz on Feb 7, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so a good comparison would be...
the jets getting ride of Mawae to draft mangol when they had a good to great rushing game. but then look what Mawae is doing in Tenesse. I’d be willing to give it a shot even if its the best draft class at center of the last decade.
Mawae immidiatly did great with the Titans while it took a season and a half for Mangol to developpe the smarts to be a good centre with the Jets… in other words, to devellop tha smarts to be in NFL it takes time.
I’d take Birk and draft a center so he can develope his skills under him.
by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 7, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want the problem solved
If the Bills believe that Birk can step into the line-up and be significantly better than any other option (draft, free agency, or (ugh!) someone on the roster) then signing him makes at least some degree of sense. Naturally, it all depends on the contract; signing a 33 year old offensive lineman for more than 2 years probably isn’t the best possible option.
by Ron From NM on Feb 7, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brian I didn't vote because your options were incomplete
I like Birk and I would definitely be happy to get him. Your only option to go pursue him says that we feel that we can’t start a rookie? That not being the case I didn’t vote. If you want your polls to mean something, you must putt all options.
I personally could see us signing Birk to a 3-4 year deal and still drafting Alex Mack if he’s still there in round 2. Mack would be an upgrade at LG over Dock and we could save some cap space. In 2 years time if Birk starts slipping, we can either draft another center or guard and have the option to move Mack over to the pivot position. I definitely think that Mack & Unger are day-1 starters.
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by keysh67 on Feb 8, 2009 8:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That not being the case I didn’t vote. If you want your polls to mean something, you must putt all options.
Haha, wow, you guys are freakin’ picky. The only thing I wanted to do was make it a “yes/no” poll, which it largely is. I’m sorry for spicing up the options in an unsatisfactory fashion. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 8, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian, with all respect… You’ve often commented when I put up polls saying that options were missing and I never took it personally and I often added the options as per your suggestions. Take my comment as constructive criticism not as a dig.
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by keysh67 on Feb 8, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did take it as constructive criticism… I was just making clear my original intent of making it a yes/no poll, which as you pointed out, I screwed up.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 8, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted no.
They’d still need to draft a center with some urgency if they signed Birk. If they pursued Brown (and won), they’d have their man, with a spotty backup in Preston. It makes more sense.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 8, 2009 8:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats it right there
the only way center gets removed from the draft boards is Brown. According to the Vikings Birk is slipping, Kevin Mawae is one example and a different player. It should be a concern
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by poz on Feb 8, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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