A first-hand look at Bills QB Ryan Fitzpatrick
On the opening night of the NFL's free agent signing period, the Buffalo Bills made their first acquisition of the 2009 season when they agreed to terms with former Bengals backup QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. The four-year veteran out of Harvard was targeted by the Bills as the backup to current starter Trent Edwards, and that's exactly the role he'll assume in Buffalo.
After spending two seasons as the third quarterback of the St. Louis Rams, Cincinnati acquired Fitzpatrick via trade to back up Carson Palmer. He did not see any game action during the 2007 season; however, after Palmer was lost early on in the 2008 campaign, Fitzpatrick went on to play in thirteen games (starting twelve), acquiring the most significant playing time of his nascent professional career.
Now he's a Bill, and if we're lucky, he won't see the field for a single snap next season. In the likely event that he does see game action, however, it's nice to have some sort of expectation as to the type of play we'll see from him. Joining us today to discuss Fitzpatrick the player and his performance last season is Josh Kirkendall, lead editor of SB Nation's Bengals blog, Cincy Jungle. Here's what he had to say about his team's now former backup quarterback.
On his general opinions of Fitzpatrick as a backup
"He's a decent backup, and should be a decent acquisition for the role he'll be playing with the Bills. He's not a foundation quarterback, and if he's forced to start the majority of any season, I would expect that team to struggle for the post-season."
On Fitzpatrick's general athleticism
"His legs are a major advantage, and he can scramble out of hopeless situations. His ability to escape the pocket, and recognize gaps in the underneath zones, allowed the Bengals to sustain drives because he found a way to pick up first downs with his legs when the to-go yardage on third down was less than ten yards."
On his abilities as a pocket passer
"In the pocket, everything needs to work out into perfection for his passing to be an effective asset for any offense. The biggest issue is that he's quick to panic out of the pocket, and his turnovers are a tremendous concern. Admittedly, a lot of what Fitzpatrick did, or couldn't do, was relative to many factors affecting the Bengals, like any other quarterback in the league. Plus, our system could have been too much for his style of play."
On his history of being turnover-prone
"His 11 fumbles, five of them lost, were major frustrations with fans, and absolutely killed drives, as well as his nine interceptions. It wasn't until late in the season when the Bengals offense started moving the ball with a decent rushing offense, as well as simplified passing progressions (limiting Fitzpatrick's options, most of which were quick three-step drops), did he sustain any success."
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In short, it sounds like we've got ourselves a typical backup quarterback - a solid athlete that can't be a starter for any significant stretch simply because he's streaky with mistakes. That's fine. Fitzpatrick's smarts and his ability to make plays with his legs are strong selling points. Still, let's not get all amped up about seeing him get a lot of playing time - if that happens, the team is sunk.
Many thanks to Josh for dropping the knowledge. Be sure to visit Cincy Jungle for all things Bengals.
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PIcked for his running game?
Maybe they picked him to be the third running back. ha ha
Brian, I read that the Bills are interested in Kevin Jones. Are the Bills trying to trade away either Jackson/Lynch?
by south123 on Mar 1, 2009 8:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe to Arizona for Boldin or to the Lions for a 1st round draft pick?
by south123 on Mar 1, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, the team is not shopping either of its running backs. They’re interested in a veteran third running back because they’re preparing for a possible Lynch suspension.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any rumors on the remaining game plan?
Ok. How about the game plan from here on out? Any chance they make a run at the safety you like so much from the Browns?
by south123 on Mar 1, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’ll keep working on Coles until he makes a decision about his future. They really like him. Beyond that, I have no idea.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/
I read here that Coles has had exactly one offer (bills) thus far. http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/
by south123 on Mar 1, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see it on that page
but it is encouraging somewhat. I am trying not to get my hopes up.
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by killascript on Mar 1, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All we know is that the Buffalo News, as a throwaway, said it was believed that Coles was in Miami. Nothing’s confirmed, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope we remain the only substancial offer that Coles gets
I’d love to see him in a bills jersey.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 1, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its in the brief called “SO LONG, FLORIO”
by south123 on Mar 1, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Deja Vu All Over Again?
He likes to scramle. He’s quick to panic. He turns the ball over far too often.
Is it just me or does the Cincy blogger make Fitz sound an awful lot like JP Losman?
by Ron From NM on Mar 1, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s the impression I got. I’m hoping to hear more on his ability to read coverage.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this as well – who wouldn’t?! The difference might be his pedigree and the fact that he won’t have the animosity for the organization the way Losman probably did. (I have no proof on this, obviously.)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 1, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
los,an wants a chance to start. Its unfortunate how it happened, but it has certainly run its course.
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by killascript on Mar 1, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know JP wants to start
But is there any chance he signs with Cincy as their backup QB? Wouldn’t that be weird?
Although, I can see JP playing better in Cincy and Fitzpatrick playing better in Buffalo just by the sheer fact of the style of play for their starting QBs.
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by moncheri on Mar 1, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
personally
I would like to see JP get a shot in Detroit, as competition for starter, and a back up in many offenses. I also think he could start in SF, but they don’t have a lot of weapons either, even though it would fit his style.
In Detroit though, he could just run around and throw it deep to Calvn johnson all day. I will watch him as long as he stays in the league
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by killascript on Mar 1, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the other way around.
The animosity the organization (the fanbase actually) had for JP. Up until the season went to sh!t, JP was a surprisingly good man about everything.
And yes, all I hear about Fitzy makes me think he’s the JP of the Harvard.
by twoeightnine on Mar 1, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that’s pretty much what he does. Anybody else watch this guy this year? I thought he sucked as a starter. I guess as a backup, its ok…..
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by Kurupt on Mar 1, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now begins the Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy in 2010 watch!
sorry…
by Mocking Dan on Mar 1, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL Dan, Fitzpatrick isn’t starting here…
… though a new QB is completely reasonable if the current regime is fired.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Jauron and company get the shoe a new QB is a foregone conclusion
Of course, Buffalo will probably be picking in the top half of the draft if Jauron is canned so the Bills would have a good shot at one of the top QBs.
by Ron From NM on Mar 1, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion...
but if Dick gets canned it’s probably due to poor QB play anyways…. so maybe.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 2, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah...
If Trent Edwards doesn’t pan out, I’d rather trade for Jay Cutler. I don’t know what’s going on in Denver. Crazy.
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by Fort Worth on Mar 1, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My God, I can’t fathom the amount I’d give to see Cutler in Buffalo, perhaps including one of my testicles. That kid is for real, and it’s absolutely unfathomable that Josh McDaniels would even consider moving him for Matt Freaking Cassel.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree with you any more.
To me, there’s nothing like dominace at the game’s most important position. Cutler has shown flashes of dominance at a young age, and he may just be scratching the surface. The Chargers, Chiefs, and Raiders could be playing for second place for the next 10 years.
For all the Whitner/Ngata talk, how about Whitner/Cutler instead?
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by Fort Worth on Mar 1, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
more than flashes
He is an awesome qb, and when I tell some people who don’t know we could have had Cutler, there pretty much crap their pants
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by killascript on Mar 1, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me about it
I actually wanted the Bills to draft Cutler with that #8 pick. That’s the year Levy came in abruptly as the GM, and he never took a glance of considering Cutler.
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by moncheri on Mar 1, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I have heard that Levy had Cutler higher on his board than Whitner but they thought they had a good qb in JP and needed a safety
by billsnterps on Mar 1, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More quality personnel evaluation….They’ve done such a swell job.
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by Kurupt on Mar 1, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler is not a finished product just yet. He locks onto receivers, will miss open receivers, force some throws, and sometimes he runs when he doesn’t have to. However, Cutler’s flaws are correctable. I believe he will get better and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg as far as what he can become, which is scary for Cutler’s opponents.
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by Fort Worth on Mar 1, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully they won’t ask for more then just your testicles.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
by sireric on Mar 1, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be down with trading Brian's boys for Cutler
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 2, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Screw that if we have to do that....lets throw all conventionalism out the window and build a team around
Tim Tebow.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 1, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody heard anything about Sean Jones? I haven’t heard his name linked to any team at all yet. Move in OBD!
by billsnterps on Mar 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
News
I remember last year, once free agency started, not hearing anything about Lance Briggs for about 1 week. He’s a good player and I though I would have heard more. Of course, the 49ers got caught tampering with Briggs before free agency started.
While OBD is waiting for Coles, why not go after Sean Jones?
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by Fort Worth on Mar 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have to wait...
at least until the Coles offer is off the table. If they sign Coles, great. If not they will move on to their secondary targets.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 2, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you guys feel about this
per billsdaily: Dockery Situation May Not Have Been Bungled: More reports continue to surface on the possible trade of Derrick Dockery to the Lions before his release and it appears now it may not have been a huge bungle job by the Bills front office. The Detroit Free Press says after the Bills were ready to release him the Lions approached the Bills about a deal. They offered Jon Kitna but the Bills were determined to go after Ryan Fitzpatrick who they would later sign. Kitna was then traded to the Cowboys today. The two teams finally agreed on a seventh round pick in 2010 but it was only 10 minutes before the deadline and not enough time to get paperwork filed on the trade or get an extension to allow the Bills to carry Dockery but not give him the whopping $4.5 Million roster bonus.
Is Ryan Fitzpatrick worth 4.5 million more over Jon Kitna (I don’t think he’s worth Jon Kitna) If this rumor is true than Buffalo blundered even worse than expected
by pasaluki on Mar 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kitna’s long had the same problems – turnover-happy, skittish in the pocket, yadda yadda yadda. Yeah, he’s been around a while, but so what? It’s not like he’s played for good teams. I’ve never been a huge fan of him, and while he’s certainly more proven than Fitzpatrick is, I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing that we shied away from him.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh come on Brian, don’t you remember the NFL comeback player of the year award and how he accepted a backup role and shaped Carson Palmer into the franchise QB he is now?
How can we say we are looking for veteran leadership at QB and then sign someone who hasn’t even played in as many games as Trent Edwards?? Fitzpatrick might be bright but Kitna is wily and experienced.
by pasaluki on Mar 1, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also how is the fact he played for bad teams a knock against him? If anything it should be something positive that he was able to last as long as he has on bad teams.
by pasaluki on Mar 1, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He won the Comeback award in 2003. Five years later, I consider that highly irrelevant.
Who said anything about the Bills looking for “veteran leadership” at backup QB? I think just “veteran” is the better way to describe it.
I think as far as Palmer goes, Palmer should be getting the credit for that. Kitna got some points for keeping his head down and not complaining, but that’s about it. (And I’m not saying that in a derogatory way; not many quarterbacks are that humble.)
Plus, we have no idea how Kitna fit into the parameters of the trade. If the Bills wanted a pick and they offered Kitna instead, I feel certain that the Bills would have turned it down instantly. They like picking up picks in trades.
In the end, this is all hypothetical, and even if we had made a move for Kitna, the paperwork thing would have negated the trade. So ultimately, this is a moot point. I’m not saying I prefer Fitzpatrick to Kitna. I just think Fitzpatrick is a better fit for what we like to do, but I’m not huge fans of either.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Who said anything about the Bills looking for ‘veteran leadership’ at backup QB? I think just "veteran" is the better way to describe it.”
Your arguing semantics the bills said: “they wanted to add a veteran quarterback as a backup to Trent Edwards, that understands his role. The coaching staff is hopeful that a veteran can help to mentor Edwards on the finer points of the game as he continues to develop.”
Now I ask you who do you think will be a mentor? One who successfully mentored Carson Palmer, or someone who actually has less experience and is less qualified to mentor than the QB he is supposed to be mentoring?
Do you want a kid mentoring another kid or an adult mentoring a kid?
And I think you are understating what Kitna did for Palmer, I think it was more of just keeping his head down, he helped ease Palmer into the game and both remain good friends.
Relationships between veteran qbs and younger qbs CAN be important Steve Young used to bring out the clipboard for Joe Montana after all.
And for all I know the paperwork thing may have been filed in time had they been interested in Kitna because it seems like they argued until they got offered a 7th rounder.
They seemed so focused on getting fitzpatrick they didn’t even bother to think that Kitna could have helped.
by pasaluki on Mar 1, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been asking for veteran leadership at the position.
I never said the Bills were, though. It was my hope.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 2, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you clarified...
veteran vs. veteran leadership. point noted. I agree with you.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 2, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is all so underwhelming
I’m excited about Hangartner and I think he will develop into a good player for the Bills. Fitzpatrick seems like a bit of a tool, but still a major upgrade from JP. With a solid line (help, please OBD) and a good running game, he could win games if forced to play.
But I was expecting at least one difference-maker signing. Course FA is tough cause most teams don’t let good players go, but I think Ron from NM makes a good point about NYS taxes. They are absurdly high. They are what forced upstate mainstay companies (e.g., IBM, Universal, Lockheed, etc.) to vacate from upstate southward and now it is doing the same to our athletes. If we didn’t have to subsidize all the losers in NYC all the time (don’t lash out at me for that line, I live in NYC), maybe people wouldn’t think of Buffalo as such a dump.
by thejimbo on Mar 1, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we didn’t have to subsidize all the losers in NYC all the time
you are most certainly correct about that good sir – most certainly
Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?
by J2 on Mar 1, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fitzpatrick...
meh.
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