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Rumblings Scouting Report: California C/G Alex Mack


Alex Mack is strong. And awesome. (Courtesy California Golden Blogs)

As the 2009 NFL Draft approaches, the editorial staff at Buffalo Rumblings will begin profiling draft prospects that may end up being potential targets of the Bills.  sireric switches from tight end prospect to the center position by profiling California's Alex Mack.

One of the popular names around these parts remains one Alex Mack. Many consider him to be not just the best center in the 2009 NFL Draft, but the best center to come into the pros in the last decade or two. Now that the Bills have signed Geoff Hangarter, if the Bills are looking at Mack it could be to play guard, which Mack has show the ability to do. Since he is one of the hot names, we thought we should take a closer look into the guy many of us here at Rumblings have tabbed the "must have" guy of the 2009 NFL Draft.

Alex Mack - Center, California
6'4", 316 lbs, Age: 23
Senior

Strengths: He's got ideal size for a center and has the smarts to go along with it, and is considered a great technician who understands leverage and angles. Has the aggressiveness and physicality to go along with a nasty killer instinct. Mack is a strong and powerful athlete who is known to be a "gym rat". Has lots of experience, since he was a four year starter at Cal after red-shirting his freshman year.

Weaknesses: Sometimes he can be too aggressive and get out of control; sometimes a little too fiery. Mack also has a tendency to get overwhelmed by much bigger defenders. He's not that light on his feet and doesn't move all that well in space.

Awards:

- The Draddy Trophy, which is also known as the "Academic Heisman" which is given to the nation's top scholar athlete.

- The Morris Trophy which is given to the Pac-10's top offensive lineman as voted on by the defensive linemen two years in a row.

- Three time first team All-Pac 10.

- Four time academic All-Pac 10.

NFL comparison - Matt Birk, Baltimore Ravens
- Birk is a Harvard grad and is considered one of the smartest NFL players today. Mack is a player along those same lines: smart, tough and mean.

A few questions with someone in the know:

For info on Mack I got in touch with BearsNecessity, a fellow Rumbler and a contributor over at California Golden Blogs.  He had interesting answers to our questions:

1. Alex Mack is said to be the best center to come out of college in the last 15 years. How close is that to being true?

He is very, very good.  Mack certainly has a physical presence that I usually don't see out of an offensive lineman, an explosive ability to open up holes, grapple the defender and keep him anchored to his body until the play ends.

CGB writer Hydrotech adds: He's better at run blocking than pass blocking but still very good at pass blocking.  Excellent work ethic and leadership.  Serious guy in practices.  Smart guy too.  Willing to learn.  Great awareness.  Mentally, I think he's all there and a perfect football player (smart, intelligent, mentally tough, disciplined).  Physically he's a great player too.

2. How often has he faced a 3-4 defense, and how has he held up vs BIG DTs?

Outside of practice (when Cal was running 3-4), not much. The Pac-10 defenses generally run 4-3 sets, so Mack is usually facing down a defensive tackle. That being said, Mack anchored an offensive line that gave up the least number of sacks in college football in 2007, and he did a fairly good job on a 2008 team with a mediocre passing attack and with three starting offensive linemen who went down to injury through the season. We ran so many plays right up the gut this season that went for 10-30 yards mainly because Mack was our anchor on the O-Line and he could break out our running backs, Jahvid Best and Shane Vereen, to daylight.

3. Is Mack a team leader or just "one of the guys", so to speak?

This year, definitely a leader. The Bears suffered from a lack of leadership in 2007, which contributed to a fairly epic collapse I'd rather not talk about. Mack stepped into that void and provided some senior guidance that kept the offense from getting into too much of a rut and pulling out games that we could've lost all season long.

You can find out more about his contributions here. I think he might be a nice guy.

4. How does the Cal O-Line run? Do they do any zone blocking? Does Mack pull often or is he a more stationary blocker?

If you would like a detailed description of Cal's power run game, you can click here for more info on what Jeff Tedford has run at Cal since his arrival in 2002. While it has definitely evolved since this article was written a few years ago, the basic schemes of what Tedford, Coach M and Ron Gould use to open up the running game are pretty simple.  They generally use straight I formation sets where the right tackle and guard seal off against the inside lineman, and they bring a guard from the backside to lead for the tailback to bust through, with the fullback and tight end switching on their blocking responsibilities. It's very tailback heavy.

Regardless of our overall performance as a team, the Cal running game has finished in the top 15 the past 5 years according to yards per carry (5th in 2008, 14th in 2007, 13th in 2006, 3rd in 2005, 1st in 2004). So I'd say it's worked very well.

Collected Scouting Reports for further information:

Scott Wright: Top center
Mocking the draft
: Top center
Mike Mayock: #3 center
California Golden Blogs
: (With many thanks once again to BearsNecessity who provided us with lots of great info.)

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just an awesome picture.........

too cool.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 16, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly, one of the many reasons I have a man crush on him

Anyone who can get chicks to sit on his back and still look ready to plow someone is up on my list.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 16, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the chicks come with him if we draft him?

Imagine how distracted the opposing D would be if we played him with those two on his back :-P

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind the D

Trent would have his face right up their….

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Mar 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could be his bonus after a W

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Mar 16, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Define plow

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 17, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm, pancaking an opposing player

And also involving those good looking ladies…..
Double Entendre intended

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 17, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

picture alone

makes me hope the bills draft him

by jdol1568 on Mar 16, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve gone on record as saying I’d like to keep Kirk Chambers as a backup lineman so we have some punch in the reserves. But if we could play either Chambers or Hangartner at guard with this guy and then use the other one to play reserve. We need a guy like Mack in the AFC East.

by Dyl on Mar 16, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutly agree

I’d draft him ahead of Pettigrew every day of the week.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a guy like Mack in the AFC East.

Actually, we need a guy like this on the Bills or nowhere else in the AFC East!

by thefourwinds on Mar 17, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love the picture

And you all know how I feel about this kid! I really hope that we find a way to get him at #42.

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Mar 16, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah man Eric....

I was finally coming to closure with the idea that we won’t get my favorite player in this years draft, Mack obviously, after signing Mangartner and then you got to go ahead and remind me how friggin awesome Mack is. He is such a powerful run blocker I would like nothing more than to see him open up holes for Marshawn Lynch again with the two of them as Bills instead of Bears.

Why don’t we move Hangartner to guard and draft Mack anyway? Regardless, you got me believing again! Mack is back! Mack is back!

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 16, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

HA
Mangartner

That was a complete accident but it is now officially my new nickname for Hangartner

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 16, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Bills stick to their board and take best player available, and Mack falls to them in the second, it could happen. Draft Mack and see what the best combo is between Mack and Hang.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 16, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as weaknessess go

This is as good a weakness as you want to see

Sometimes he can be too aggressive and get out of control; sometimes a little too fiery.

That is just awesome!

We ran so many plays right up the gut this season that went for 10-30 yards mainly because Mack was our anchor on the O-Line and he could break out our running backs

This is precisely what our interior line needs

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 16, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mack and Hang

sounds like a trucking company.

For Marshawn to be truckin through the defense!

by Dyl on Mar 16, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Birk gone,

there is a good chance that Minny takes him in round 1.

The other day I came home and a guy was jogging, naked. I asked him,
'Why?' He said, 'Because you came home early.' - Rodney Dangerfield

by Joe P. on Mar 16, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why wait for him to fall to the second

If we trade down in the first I would deffinitly Draft Mack before drafting Pettigrew. Pettigrew is a good kid, but I think Mack could come in as a starter and anckor our O-Line for the next decade, I don’t think Pettigrew can have that long term impact.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pettigrew could be a terrific TE for the next decade. I think he could absolutely have that kind of long term impact.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 16, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this comes down to personel preferance.

So can’t I just prefer the impact that Mack would bring over the impact that Pettigrew would bring?

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. You aren’t allowed to disagree with me in a post that I put up.

All kidding aside, not that I view Hangarter as the long term solution to the Bills O-Line, but I think he is closer to it then any other TE on the roster is over Pettigrew. (Did that make any sense?)

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 16, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does make sense, but I have a couple thoughts:

Why is everyone viewing Hangartner with caution? Is it just because he was a backup in Carolina? Because the situation is totally different from when Buffalo has signed other backups only to watch them fail. Hangartner has about 2 full seasons worth of starting games, so he isn’t exactly an unknown.

And couldn’t Mack still be the long term solution at guard? (also I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, I’m not sure who I would take if it came down to Mack and Pettigrew)

by kaisertown on Mar 16, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we trade down...

for two first round pics and draft oth of them. how’s that? everyone happy? : – D

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can say without hesitation that Mack won’t start at center. Hangartner IS the starter there for 2009, without question. If we draft Mack and he starts, he’ll start at guard.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 16, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is just fine, Chambers has shown himself as a non-liabilty as a swing OLine man and I think the Bills like that

Having a line of Peters, Butler, Harngarter, Mack and Walker with Bell, Chambers, and rookie #2 would be a very very good setup for us.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 16, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

so I guess the question becomes

Who is the better guard in round 2? Alex Mack or Duke Robinson? Robinson has more experience at the position but Mack may be the better player.

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 16, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

MACK!

sorry that just came out. Mack is the better player at eithe position according to me.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

I agree! MACK!

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 16, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats fine with me

I’d still love to have him on our O-Line

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 16, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wouldn't break my heart

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Mar 17, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

My first reaction was

having sireric scout Mack is like having Hitler scout Jesse Owens!!! But I must say you did a great job! I hope we find a way to get this guy!!!!

The other day I came home and a guy was jogging, naked. I asked him,
'Why?' He said, 'Because you came home early.' - Rodney Dangerfield

by Joe P. on Mar 16, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately I think we’re still in no man’s land right now with Mack. If we trade down or trade Peters we’re in a much better position to get him. Speculation now has him going to Minny with pick #22. So a trade with Philly to get their #21 might be our only hope.
You chose a great pic Eric. Someone is going to get a franchise/cornerstone Oline leader that will bring stability and fire to an O line for a long time. I hope our front office has the foresight to see that.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Mar 16, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

3-4

With all the teams in the division in a 3-4, and a lot of teams converting to that, I would think that having a big, anchor-type player isn’t as necessary as it used to be if the guards aren’t lined up over anyone.

So maybe a 310 lb OG works better than a 330 lb guard might have in the past.

by Pistol on Mar 16, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

He is our "must have" guy

Great write-up. I can’t think of anyone available in the 2009 draft who would help the Bills more in getting to the playoffs. He could start at G and then be available to move to C if Hangartner has problems with big NT’s. It would be best if we could trade down and still get him, but if the Bills take him (or Pettigrew) at #11 I’ll have no complaints.

by Macktruck on Mar 16, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Mack

I have been saying for months now that as strange as it might sound, Mack could be the biggest impact player for OUR TEAM – THE BILLS. Maybe not for any other team in the entire NFL but for the Bills he should be THE GUY in this year’s draft. I don’t care if we signed Hangartner – one of them plays Center and the other plays Left Guard. Let the coaches decide who is better where. I am forseeing an offense pounding it up the middle with Lynch and Jackson behind a rejuvinated O-Line and opposing defenses having to put 8 guys in the box and then play action deep to Evans and T.O. Could be devasting!! More than any other player in this draft, Mack fits what this team needs.

by bobb498 on Mar 16, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't agree more!

I too have been touting The Mack truck for months. Does everone forget who Kent Hull was? He’s your next Hull for the LONG TERM in Buffalo. Yes, a VERY BIG IMPACT player IMO.

Trade back w/ Philly and take him @ 21…….. if our #11 is too early for some to take a Center. Either way, get it done OBD – PLEASE!!!

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by Pocono Bob on Mar 17, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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