Cutler... no way!!!

by hilliarddavid on Mar 17, 2009 5:40 PM EDT

Cutler and Edwards bring two different styles of QB to the table.

Cutler

Great Arm
Semi-mobile
Lots of TD - Lots of INTs
Big ego and may buckle under pressure

Edwards

Accurate passer
Stays in the pocket to complete a pass
Game manager with a few more TDs then INTs
Cool, Calm and Collect

I would in no way want Cutler over Edwards. Can you imagine the fireworks if Cutler didn't get TO the ball. You would have TO yelling at Cutler as he is currled up in a corner crying. Cutler would then go home, wherever that is and complain to his parents.

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THANK YOU!!!!

I’ve been waitin g for someone to say it!

I think sucess at QB is determined by one thing before all else: PLAY INTELLIGENCE.

When the going gets tough, Trent stays calm and still gets things done, ok with a little less effectiveness, but he still gets it done. Cutler on the other hand tends to make bad decisions and throw interseptions when the going gets tough. Trents wins this by a landslide.

Perfect parralelle is Tom Brady. Ok Trent isn’t nearly as gifted as Tom yet, but when you look at it, Tom is much more of an accurate passer than anything else, and does leave something to desire in the long game, yet everyone agree that Tom Brady is one of the best QB’s in the league.

As for Jay Cutler, I think that there are a 2 main reasons why the Broncos were 8-8 last year. 1 is a horrible deffence and 2 is Cutler’s game killing interseptions, he threw a lot of his INT’s at the worst possible time; Trent isn’t like that.

So is Trent more gifted than Cutler, absolutly not, but is Trent smarter, more accurate and a better game manager, absolutly yes. Thats why I’m taking Edwrads over Cutler almost every time.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

All of that is well and good

but has Trent Edwards been able to play a complete season since high school?

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 17, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

He played complete seasons in college didn't he?

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 17, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe in 2005

2003: injured and missed multiple games.
2004: injured and missed multiple games.
2005: started 11 games.
2006: injured and missed multiple games.
2007: injured and missed multiple games.
2008: injured and missed multiple games.
2009:?

One time is an abberation, two times is a pattern, three times is a trend. I’m just saying that Edwards’ durability is questionable.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought he only had troubles in the NFL

But I will agree that Edwards durability is questionable, of that there is no doubt. That being said, I’d still rather have Trent then prima dona Jay Cutler.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

From what I have read he was on a team with a very porous line. He spent more time on his back than standing. I didn’t watch any games, just repeating what I’ve read. Last season’s absence certainly wasn’t because he is particularly fragile. He really got leveled.

by Chazjr on Mar 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Ironically, Cutler's offensive line was really bad at Vanderbilt, too.

But Cutler didn’t miss nearly as many games as Edwards, if he missed any at all.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

time and again, he has proven to be injury-prone. it’s not that i don’t like trent. i love his attitude, but the man cannot stay healthy. continuous injuries will continue to hamper his development, not to mention the effect it has on his confidence. there are several things i like about him, but there are too many concerns to feel happy and confident about the bills’ championship aspirations with him at quarterback. numbers aside, i think cutler has greater potential to be a superbowl quarterback than does trent—he’s simply more gifted.

by jzoom45 on Mar 18, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions

completely disagree about the kind of QB you want

but the point is moot so I won’t get into that argument. Lets just say, I’d rather have a game winning QB that will make mistakes every now and then than a game manager. IMO, Brett Farve over Tom Brady (both in their primes) anyday and twice on sunday.

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

i, too, would rather have a gamebreaker type of player than a conservative quarterback who will “manage” a game. i rather have the guy who will throw the 70 yard bomb to the endzone than the guy who will throw the 10 yarder. edwards is better suited for a coah like bellichek and the kind of offense he runs there. cutler reminds me a bit of jim kelly.

by jzoom45 on Mar 18, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions

So my guess is you liked Losman?

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I think you guys got me wrong

To me it if t’s between a game manager or a gun slinger I pick the game manager, so Trent over Jay. But if I got a gun slinger who also has good managing skills, à la Jim Kelly, then I’m taking him every time. I just think Cutler is bad a import descision. but thats just my opinion.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 18, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Is Edwards’ play more intelligent or more scared? I don’t see how Edwards has played that well to make him a better option than Cutler. Trent throws terrible passes, questionable INT’s and has looked scared out there. Cutler is fearless, almost to a fault, and doesn’t back down from anything. I like that.

Everyone talks about how young Trent is and all that, but Cutler has only been a starter for two full seasons. Isn’t he still young developing?

What about INT’s? Cutler threw 1 every 34.2 passes, Trent threw one every 37.4 passes this past season. For their careers, Cutlers has thrown 1 INT every 33 passes, Trent 1 every 35.7. I really don’t see much of a difference.

Cutler accounted for 27 TD’s this season, Trent has accounted for just 21 in his entire career. Call me crazy, but I’d take Cutler’s output any day.

Hey the Broncos were 8-8 last year, while we were 7-9. Lots of variables involved in all that, but hey, those are the stats.

I’d rather have a playmaker at QB than a guy who tries to manage the game. I’d take Cutler over Trent any day, as would the Bills.

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 17, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Wouldn't Cutler be a game manager with Jauron and Turk?

He is going to be asked to do that in Denver if he stays. Trent would probably do very well in Denver with McDaniels.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 18, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Probably

which would be unfortunate

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions

kurupt? should be more like konfused. i could have sworn you were praising trent and against a cutler move in the other blog…

by jzoom45 on Mar 18, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s easy to come off that way when you are reacting to extremes. Say someone has a logical view of Trent where they think he’s a pretty good QB who has shown potential and that he very well could be the long term answer here and could very well lead this team deep into the playoffs at some point. Their responses to “Trent stinks” and “Trent is so much better than Cutler” are going to look like they have two contradicting responses.

I’ve had a bunch of posts that say I believe that Cutler is a better QB than Trent, but I’ve also said that I think trying to trade for Cutler is crazy.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

And all I was trying to do was point out that Trent’s had issues with INT’s, just like Cutler. Cutler’s done a MUCH better job of putting points on the board for his team. I think he does that, due in part to his fearless attitude. Personally, I think Trent has played scared at times in his career.

And you’re right, Kaiser, I wasn’t saying Trent stinks. I don’t think he’s great, but he could be pretty good if he can continue improving.

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions

??

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree with Sal.

Cutler would not put up with TO’s garbage.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 17, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

I agree that it’s completely crazy for Buffalo to give up on Edwards in favor of making a major move to get Cutler, but I wouldn’t categorize Cutler as a guy who throws a lot of INTs or turns the ball over often.

Cutler turned the ball over 20 times last year on about 675 called pass plays. That comes out to a little under 3% of his pass attempts. He turned the ball over 3.4% of pass plays two years ago and a rough 4.4% of the time in his few games as a rookie.

Edwards on the other hand turned the ball over 15 times on about 430 pass attempts which is about 3.5% of pass attempts. Then again, Trent only turned the ball over 2.7% of the time as a rookie.

The biggest reason that Cutler’s turnover totals look so big is because he gets asked to throw the ball a lot and his crappy defense leads to lots of 2nd half and 4th quarter comeback attempts. I would be more than willing to trade a few turnovers for a little bit more of a gunslinger, get the ball down the field mentality in Trent.

by kaisertown on Mar 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions

I agree

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 17, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions

We’ve been doing that a lot lately.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions

I disagree

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions

HA!

Good one.

by thefourwinds on Mar 20, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions

haha. We’ve done plenty of that in the last year as well.

by kaisertown on Mar 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Cutler and TO would be similar to Romo and TO.

Edwards is more similar to Garcia, though far less speedy, etc.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 17, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

Cutler would then go home, wherever that is and complain to his parents.

Now, come on, we’re not talking about Phil Rivers here.

by thefourwinds on Mar 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions

Cutler

Keep Edwards. If we go after anyone on Denver’s team I hope its their TE .

by Bob on Mar 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions

I don't want Cutler

or his ego or his high priced “rocket arm” here in Buffalo. Thanks and lets move on………………………..

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Mar 18, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions

sorry

didnt know you couldn’t swear. oops. well then, Edwards is a wooosie. hows that?

by csc06258 on Mar 18, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions

It depends on which Trent Edwards we see this year. If we see the Trent before the concussion, I’ll take him ANY day. If we see the Trent post concussion I’ll take Cutler ANY day. Which one will we see? time will tell.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Mar 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions