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Bills sign LB Pat Thomas

The Buffalo Bills have agreed to terms with free agent LB Pat Thomas, according to Mike Florio at ProFootballTalk.com.  Thomas signs a one-year deal and immediately enters the competition for the open spot at SAM linebacker, vacated by Angelo Crowell.  On Wednesday, Crowell signed a one-year deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Thomas, age 26, is a four-year veteran that has spent time with the Jacksonville Jaguars and, more recently, the Kansas City Chiefs.  The 6'1", 237-pound outside linebacker has 72 career tackles, including a career-high 48 as a part-time starter for the Chiefs in 2008.

Keith Ellison, Alvin Bowen and now Thomas are expected to compete for the starting SAM slot.  All three have special teams potential as well.  The signing should not drastically affect Buffalo's draft plans.

Tip of the hat to BenAllen for breaking it here.

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Started 9 games last year

48 tackles, .5 sacks, 2 passes defended

Former 6th round pick of the Jags.

I hope they do more than bring him in…..

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 18, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Good size on him..........

Im sure a early round pick will still be made on a LB……..

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be still my beating heart…

So what does this mean? This guy is a back-up at best, right?

Did I miss it, or did the team not sign Ellison?

I know Brian won’t do it, but he does deserve the chance to say “I told you so” regarding Crowell.

Does anyone have even a semi-accurate guess as to where the Bills are now at cap wise? I know this guy didn’t hit the lottery, but the Bills have to be getting up close to their cap number.

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this means that we might not be targeting any other FA LBs, but we may put a heavier focus on LB in the draft than we thought. Assuming we address the guard and TE openings elsewhere, what linebackers out there might be available with our 2nd round pick?

Also, I think Ellison was tendered, but I don’t remember seeing anything about him signing it.

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Mar 18, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

NFLDRAFTCOUNTDOWN.com doesnt have any LB's going in the second round on their mock.

Connor Barwin from Cinci…..

or

Marcus Freeman from OSU would be my choices……..in the 3rd.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yawn. A back-up LB / Special teams guy….don’t we have enough of those already?

by Posluszny Pollocks on Mar 18, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

About 50 of ’em.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 18, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not all signings have to make you pee yourself with glee.

It’s not like this is a bad signing, guys…

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 18, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what’s the point of it when its 1 year? He adds nothing but payroll to the roster.

by Posluszny Pollocks on Mar 18, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh........why dont you let him play and see what he offers first?

is that cool with you?

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has played and started: 9 games last year, 48 tackles. ~5 tackles/game
Ellison: 16 starts, 73 tackles last year. ~5 tackles/game

What’s the difference from Ellison?
Why not give Corto, Bowen, or Buggs a shot?
We already have back-up OLBs, we need a starter in my opinion.

by Posluszny Pollocks on Mar 18, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well size wise.....

he’s an inch taller and almost 10 lbs heavier….so thats an upgrade especially for a strong side backer……

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus we can still tab a "starter" at pick 11......

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look ar MRW's first post
48 tackles, .5 sacks, 2 passes defended

Now look at the 5 sacks! 5 sacks in 9 games!!!! Thats better than any of our linebakers. Heck, it would have lead the Bills in sacks last year! Thats what he brings more than Ellison, and thats why he’ll probably be our starter.

Give the guy a chance!

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 18, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that is .5 or 1/2, it is pretty hard to see the point. Blame Matt.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 18, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

blame me?

I thought about typing 0.5 sacks but I figured people could read….

No offense CBF.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s Canadian, you have to remember that.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh screw you! I’m not that ignorant… i hope

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas played in 12 games, so I’m sure he had a few tackles on special teams or in relief that didn’t come when he was starting, but the big difference is that Thomas played MLB last year. So it isn’t a good comparison to a guy who played on the strong side. 5 tackles per game is pretty unimpressive for an MLB, especially considering that opposing offenses ran the ball 55 more times and attempted 30 more passes than Buffalo’s opponents did.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bowen will get a shot...

So will Ellison and Thomas and anybody else we bring in.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

As cali said… best to let things play out before judgment is passed.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they certainly needed another LB to fill the roster, so this deal fits that. And who knows? Maybe Thomas turns out to be a player. If not, no big deal at all….

Show me someone significantly better out there. There’s not too many decent players left in FA…

I’m looking for the same kind of deal for someone at guard too.

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.....

we get a guard like this…..the we can pretty much go BPA at whatever position they want….which leaves tons of flexibility for the FO.

This offseason has pretty good so far I think.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because

If the Bills don’t make the playoffs this year and DJ is fired Ralph knew the new regime wouldn’t want to keep scrubs like him around.

I'll donate $1 to help Mary Wilson pay the estate tax...who's with me?!?

by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Mar 19, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about being a backup

theres one stat that I really like from him. 6 sacks in half a season of starting, that alone ,ight gove hm the inside edge to be the starter

But I still want to draft a LB

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 18, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.....

on all points.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 sacks?

And yeah…looking at the draft for this.

by Posluszny Pollocks on Mar 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going by what MRW said

call me crazy, but I usually take Matt to his word, if he posts 5 sacks in 9 games, I’ll believe him

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 18, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok shootI missed the .

my bad. I got optimistic there for a second and didn’t see the point before the 5. as for 6, that was a typo

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 18, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas had half a sack last year, and it was the first sack (or part of a sack) in his four year career. I don’t know where you got the 6 sacks thing from.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind this signing. It brings some depth to the LB corps, and I’m sure, was pretty cheap. I doubt many of us will be getting any text messages from the Bills tomorrow saying Pat Thomas jerseys will be available on Friday.

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I got mine on order already

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks brian

i’m an internet roamer.

i can’t see how this hurts us at all. it gives us some depth at least.

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!

by BenAllen on Mar 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Justification

I’m confident OBD will soon issue a statement to the effect that Thomas is a very intelligent player with outstanding character. They are running a “charamediocracy.”

by jpheff on Mar 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

I love you new word. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Mar 19, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m probably not a fan of this signing. If your going to sign a LB it should really be an upgrade over Ellison and not another below average starter. If this doesn’t effect Buffalo’s draft plans, then doesn’t this signing only provide more depth at LB while pushing someone like Bowen or Costanzo off the roster?

Now if Buffalo was already planning on waiting until the 3rd round or later to address LB in the draft, then I like the signing. If you aren’t going to address a position with an impact addition, then you might as well throw a bunch of names at the problem and see what your best option is.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Who’s really left out there though? Not much from what I can see.

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they didn’t have to wait until today to sign someone. I guess my point is that if you are going to draft someone early to be the starter, then you already have enough depth with Ellison and DiGi. If you aren’t going to draft someone who you can count on to be a solid backup then I suppose you had to sign a Thomas like LB.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this team has taught me one thing in the last few years..........

Its that you can never have enough “quality” depth…….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll say it now...

Alvin Bowen will be our starter

by StuckInNJ on Mar 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That is a bold prediction; a 5th rounder without a single snap even in preseason coming off a serious knee injury.

by jpheff on Mar 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i met him in training camp

then he busted his knee

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!

by BenAllen on Mar 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go watch Pats camp and talk to Brady. We could really use him out this year…again

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by Kurupt on Mar 19, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boston Beans!

You should make a trip out to Boston and meet Tom Brady!

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he has a better shot of not making the roster and it probably isn’t all that close.

by kaisertown on Mar 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s not happening

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by Kurupt on Mar 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me hope you are right. I think he can be better than anyone else currently on the roster.

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by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Mar 19, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snore fest......

Pat Thomas is a nobody. His stats are going to look somewhat overblown in the games he played as KC’s D was horrible and they were on the field A LOT. This was a total camp fodder signing. He won’t even make the team.
Good ole Bills being their lame duck selves in free agency IMO. Do they honestly think that by signing T.O. and getting the fans excited is going to help them win? Come on. You need more than 1 or 2 players to help this team. Its not gonna be just the T.O. signing, camp fodder signings like Pat Thomas or even Hangartner (who I think has promise) and it will not be just adding young guys in the draft. The Bills, IMO, have dropped the ball on adding any value to this team in the offseason so far. Are they asleep at the wheel? I don’t hold out hope for anything better than “Maybe” and 8-8 season at best this coming year. And after 3 straight 7-9 seasons……THATS PATHETIC.
That just shows we are consistantly bad.
One would have to wonder if they seriously think what they are doing is right. I mean, it hasnt worked the past 9 seasons.

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by Hambone on Mar 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Please do tell us what you would have done different so far. And make sure to be realistic when it comes to money.

This was a weak FA class. In my opinion, not much could have been done.

by krytime on Mar 18, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the deal....

Yes, it was a week FA class. I agree with that. But, how about the RFA’s or Trades? Many of the Bills brass and our own Bills faithful just don’t ever want to risk giving up draft picks. I say Bunk!!! If you want to improve your team for the upcoming year, and you feel there are just a few holes that need improving, thats great. But, do you really do it with unproven young guys from the draft? They keep saying the young kids can help. In year one? Not really. Too few young guys can come in and make that immediate impact in their first year. Why not give up a pick or 2 for a guy who has already proven themselves in the NFL? Makes sense right? Why not make a play for that TE we need like Owen Daniels? Yes, it would cost us 2 picks, but, look. Why not? It’s just as risky drafting players. Why not go out and sign that veteran LB in Derrick Brooks or another young and “proven” LB in Cato June if you want to put that OLB spot to a competition? We passed on Mike Peterson, didnt make a play for a play making safety in Gibril Wilson or Sean Jones and still havent make a play for a disgruntled Brian Waters. Instead, we sign a “cast-off” from, of all places, KC. Pat Thomas couldnt stick with KC and the Bills sign him? Thats just too funny. If we are going to win people, we need to get over this build through the draft mentality. You just can not hang onto guys for years like we did in the late 80’s and early 90’s. It very rarely happens now. You get a player for an average of about 4 years. Thats it. Its time to give something to gain something im my humble opinion. Draft picks are overrated when they dont pan out.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Mar 19, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They gave up third and fifth rounders last year for Marcus Stroud.

It’s not that they never want to risk draft picks. It’s still a fact that great teams are built through the draft. Look at the Steelers this offseason. Look at the Colts. How many big name free agents have they signed over the years? You build successful teams building through the draft.

Trading a number one and number three for Owen Daniels is not going to put this team from good to great. That’s why not. Daniels is an improvement over our roster, sure. But is he the only missing piece to our puzzle? Hardly.

Derrick Brooks is turning 36 next month and 29. They aren’t that “young”. Plus they are still out there. If the Bills wanted June they could have him right now but they obviously feel his name is bigger than his production, the main reason he got cut by the Bucs in the first place. To use your logic, “Cato June couldn’t stick with the Bucs” so why should we sign him?. Plus you have no idea if we’ve made a play for Brian Waters. We could have offered a 3rd or 4th rounder already and there is no way you could possibly know.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD64OhbG4ps

No particular reason…..I just think this is funny!!!!!

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 18, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I cannot get away from that commercial- it’s one of about three that’s played every commercial break on FSN Pittsburgh during Pens games. The song haunts my soul.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bringing up the Pens on a Buffalo blog…yeah, I deserved that one…

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 18, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I get crap for bringing up the Rangers then you should get it for bringing up the Pens.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 18, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't bring up any other nhl team...

not that i should talk…..sabres are sucking right now.

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!

by BenAllen on Mar 18, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't even bring up the NHL

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by Kurupt on Mar 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, but bringing up Lost is so much better…

by thefourwinds on Mar 19, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

K’s just sad because he doesn’t understand hockey rules. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothin’ wrong with a little OT once in a while…

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha… well, by “OT” I meant “off topic” in relation to Lost, but yeah, I guess overtime/shootout hockey is OK too. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right.

What’s up with Icing? What a stupid penalty.

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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a penalty

it’s so you actually need to work your way out of your own zone instead of just dumping the puck out of the zone. The rule promotes teamwork and a more exciting game.

Man you really don’t understand Hockey.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 20, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it is much better

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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to like it.....but I just can't help myself :-)

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 18, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that song enriches mine, it’s hilarious

by pasaluki on Mar 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

mean to be quoting: “I cannot get away from that commercial- it’s one of about three that’s played every commercial break on FSN Pittsburgh during Pens games. The song haunts my soul.”

by pasaluki on Mar 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

best commercial ever

i love this. the two guys reactions are priceless.

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!

by BenAllen on Mar 18, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny without saying a word....that is good comedy!!!!

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 18, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I prefer this commercial

featuring Jimmy Rollins and NO, I am not a Phillies fan, it just…… amuses me.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 19, 2009 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Mets fan I was hoping one would drill him in his face.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 19, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome fish commerical!

by thefourwinds on Mar 19, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is interesting that they had Pat Thomas on speed dial after

Crowell signed with TB today. I am sure the market for Pat Thomas was closing soon… probably NE was going to be signing him (oh yeah, NE already moved quickly to sign another Bills FA Cast Off with signing Mike Petersen).

I have to believe that we are going to see many of these snorer signings of back ups and cheap options for competition to fill important roles on our team over the next month. They do it all the time… Cortney Andersons, Corey McIntires, Kirk Chambers, Teddy Lehman’s, etc. are perfect examples of how they try to plug and play with bargain options with little talent to make a big difference in this league.

Unfortunately, we have very big holes at left guard, TE, DE, OLB that filling in with scrubs like they are doing won’t win any division championships anytime soon. Yeah you say they will address these areas in the draft… however what about taking the “Best Player available” as a winning strategy for the draft rather than having to draft to fill needs on your roster???

Russ isn’t going to be selling many tickets with any Pat Thomas signings. I wonder if marketing will be emailing signups to buy his jersey right away? Press conference?

by dabillsr1 on Mar 19, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

didnt Mike Peterson sign with the Falcons?

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 19, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Peterson?

What?

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by Kurupt on Mar 19, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

While Chambers

was a cheap option he has become a very valuable member of the OL, especially seeing how it stands right now.
every team brings in fringe players as depth and special teams help. you can’t have a complete team full of starters.
we have holes at DE and OLB at this point. we do need depth along the OL and I don’t think the TE’s are as bad as everyone seems to make them out to be. Fine was a rookie and I thought the time he was in the lineup he did well. He will be better this year.
Mike Peterson signed with the Falcons.

by gatornation on Mar 19, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Downgrade to the Bills Roaster

the Bills so called brain trust committee passes on Crowell, June and Peterson. Any one of them would have improved our roaster over last year. Why is it so difficult for them to understand you improve your team one player at one position at a time.

by gjv on Mar 19, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I've gotta say

that I think this automatically means we take an OLB in the first two rounds of the draft. Probably Matthews or Cushing.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 19, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matthews rd 1

OG Robinson Rd 2
DE Sidbury rd 3
Best available TE rd 4

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

hard to argue with that list.

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 19, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially since theres a good shot at having Neilson or Beckum in the 4th

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I didn't give you enough credit

I really like that list. If we add took Mack in the 2nd and Beckum in the 4th, that would be a near perfect four rounds.

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 19, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Otherwise from Mathews...

We wouldn’t be getting the best player at each position, but I do think we get a top 5 for their position on the first 3 pics, and the TE is so deep in the draft that it really doesn’t matter cause we still get a great player.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

… can a new player ever be a downgrade?

Crowell didn’t play last year. Peterson signed with Atlanta. June would have been an obvious upgrade in name, sure, but why is Pat Thomas a downgrade? We’re moving from Keith Ellison here… again, let’s just relax, people. It’s a signing. Why does every move have to instantly be good or bad?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

instant

instantly good or bad is what this blog is all about.

by jpheff on Mar 19, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it? I’d much rather actually watch the games to form judgments. Until that point, I reserve judgment on every player acquisition – because wins, losses and production is the only good way to formulate an opinion on a player.

Terrell Owens? Drayton Florence? Geoff Hangartner? Ryan Fitzpatrick? Pat Thomas? Every draft pick we’ll make in a month? Every single one of them needs time to manifest themselves in our system. I can think that a signing is good or bad – and I’m sure everyone knows that I generally come out on the side of optimism when I do – but in large part, I try to hold judgment until we see the results. I wouldn’t consider any player (possibly outside of Owens, the proven commodity) an “upgrade” or “downgrade” at this point, because we have no idea how things will happen.

Most importantly, I definitely won’t bash the organization or heap mounds of praise on them for any of these moves. That just doesn’t fly logically in my brain, because again, we have no idea how good or bad these signings are yet.

But maybe that’s just me. I’ve been called weird before.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You

for talking some sense into me. I was getting my pitchfork out and about to join the mob when I read your post and realized that you are right. It’s so easy to criticize a guy before he ever suits up but we should all take a deep breath chillax.

I'll donate $1 to help Mary Wilson pay the estate tax...who's with me?!?

by O.J. Is My Bodyguard on Mar 19, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crowell was their #1 option

It seems to me that Crow was their #1 option the entire time (once all the other OLBs were franchised or resigned). They probably offered him a contract when he came in and once Crow signed with the Bucs, the Bills called their #2 option, a guy to compete for a backup spot most likely but won’t kill the Def should he acutally have to play. I too think Bowen has a chance to beat out everyone if he is fully healthy, idk why.

by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can all but confirm that Crowell didn’t have an offer on the table from the Bills. I think he probably wanted one, but I highly doubt the Bills obliged.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

inside information…..

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Brian actually have inside information? The question’s been asked but I’ve never seen an answer… then again maybe theres a reason for that.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wink!

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely not!

I just like to say that about Brian to make us feel special.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

See its conflicting information that lead to cofusion.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was I winking to “Does Brian actually have inside information?”, or was I winking to “then again maybe theres a reason for that”?

I post what I know and what I believe. It’s up to everyone else to figure out if they trust/believe/don’t give a crap about me. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your not helping your cause

Basicly all you, and MRW, have been doing is confirming what I thought. It’s cool either way cause you still do some pretty fine writting for thins blog.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what’s going on anymore.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you are ready to be promoted :-)

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

by Joe P. on Mar 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for future reference...

I will generally say anything to elicit a response… misleading, sexual…. anything

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 19, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I figured that out a LONG time ago Matt

I think it was maybe my third hour in this blog that I figured it out :-P

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 19, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if not

you’ll just respond to yourself, right?

Ha

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 20, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who would you prefere on your roaster for next season: Peterson, June, Crowell or Thomas?

by gjv on Mar 19, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer meat on my roaster. (Mmm, chicken…) I’d prefer a rookie on my roster. I was never particularly fond of any of the free agent linebackers, though could understand why others would be.

Again, I’m not saying that Thomas is the best linebacker in the history of mankind. I’m just saying that it’s hard to trash the organization for the signing when we haven’t seen how it plays out on the field.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might prefer the Bills committee on my roaster. Unfortunately or fortunately free agency is a part of building a roster in the NFL. Done well it can certainly improve your team. It comes down to choice. I do not belive the Bills improved their roster by choosing Thomas over the others. As a matter of fact I believe they down graded the roaster. In my opion Crowell is a better player than Thomas.

by gjv on Mar 19, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might prefer the Bills committee on my roaster.

Probably not as tasty as chicken, but a good nine nonetheless. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

*line, not “nine”

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 19, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nine out of ten?

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Mar 19, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bills Roaster???

The Bills sign free agents every year with the express purpose of providing training camp fodder for the starters. No big deal.

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Mar 19, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other LB FAs are out now?

I assume the Bills aren’t going to sign any other FAs at LB now, or is Thomas simply a backup LB/ST player who isn’t impacting who else the Bills may sign (June, Cato)?

by Pistol on Mar 19, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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