Rumblings' Bills Draft Big Board, Post-Free Agency
Back on February 25, two days prior to the start of the free agent signing period, your humble editor took on the daunting task of putting together Rumblings' Bills Draft Big Board, Pre-Free Agency. The list was, obviously, the names of ten prospects that, at the time, made the most sense for the Buffalo Bills. The list hasn't changed a lot, but thanks to some help, it's been significantly tweaked.
In case you're unaware, there are ten of us here on the Rumblings team. Each of us sacrificed our email inbox for the better part of 48 hours late last week in order to hammer out the second iteration of this big board "inner circle" style. Of note: it's really hard to play the role of "inner circle member". Total agreement is an impossibility. However, since we like each other (or, rather, I like the other nine, and they merely tolerate me), we came to a consensus. The fruits of our labor are below.
1. Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
6'2", 254 pounds, 4.56-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: starter at SAM linebacker
- Yeah, we know. Curry won't be available when the Bills pick, and the team would be absolutely insane to trade up for anyone when they've got a franchise left tackle commanding a significant chunk of the team's luxury box funds. But we can dream, right? This guy is too good to not list.
2. Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
6'4", 252 pounds, 4.59-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: pass rush specialist, special teams
- I've had Maybin ranked as my top end available for quite some time, but I was surprised at how little convincing I had to do to get Maybin ranked second on the board. There was obviously some disagreement - let's face it, Maybin and Everette Brown are neck and neck - but elite tools, elite potential and a killer work ethic put Maybin a hair ahead in our book.
3. Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
6'2", 256 pounds, 4.73-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: pass rush specialist, special teams
- See above. We love Brown. We'd be thrilled to land Brown. Some of us like Brown better than Maybin. You're already aware of the reasons we rank Maybin higher.
4. Clay Matthews, OLB, USC
6'3", 240 pounds, 4.67-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: starting SAM linebacker, pass rush specialist, special teams
- In terms of doing a lot of different things, Matthews takes the cake. We love his versatility, his ability to rush the passer, his bloodlines, and his unparalleled work ethic. He's a natural fit from that standpoint. Since Curry is a pipe dream, Matthews is our highest-ranked non-DE on this board. We think he'd be dynamite as a blitz specialist and special teams player as a rookie.
5. B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
6'1", 337 pounds, 5.13-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: two-down run stuffer; possible starter
- This is another name that's iffy in terms of availability at #11, but naturally, we're in love with the idea of adding a beefy, strong and youthful player to a DT rotation highlighted by 30+ former superstar Marcus Stroud. By this point, you might be noticing a pattern: we're pretty hell-bent on upgrading Buffalo's defensive front seven.
6. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
6'3", 263 pounds, 4.70-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: pass rush specialist
- Hey, look - another defensive end. We rank Orakpo lowly not because we don't like him, but because we don't like like him. Unlike Maybin and Brown, he's seen significant time on the field in which he hasn't been productive. That scares us enough to rank the aforementioned ahead of Orakpo, even though it's Orakpo that is the scariest athlete of the trio.
7. Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
6'5", 309 pounds, 5.19-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: starting left guard
- We're only going to rank one offensive lineman on our list of potential #11 picks, and it's Oher. As discussed on Saturday, he's guard material, and protects the team against the possibility of Jason Peters not being with the team in 2009 or beyond. But he's not a defender, so he ranks low on our list. We love the logic of a potential Oher pick, however.
8. Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
6'5", 263 pounds, 4.85-second 40 yard dash
Immediate role: starting tight end
- If there were ever a tight end prospect that screamed "this guy is what the Bills are looking for in a tight end", it's Pettigrew. We think he's by leaps and bounds the best tight end in the draft; certainly the only one we'd consider in the first round; and most definitely the only day-one starter at the position.
There it is. Our big board. Let us know what you think. Oh, and you've got a job, too - figure out where "trade down" should rank on the list. Have at it, folks.
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I was surprised with how easily this list came together.
Brian posted a list of the 10 or so players he was looking at and we all emailed back and forth ranking them. It became quite clear that Oher and Pettigrew were 7 and 8 (although I had Pettigrew at 6 ahead of Oher and Raji) so we turned our attention to the DEs where Brown and Maybin clearly became the favorites. Matthews beat out Raji because of need essentially and then the fight about Maybin vs. Brown commenced. My top 8 isn’t exactly like this but it’s pretty close.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trading down
I’m of the opinion that trading down should rank between 3 and 5 on Brian’s list. If Raji is available, I guarantee there will be callers wanting to trade up to our slot. Of course, this only becomes a reality if we still need a TE come draft day, and the FO is high enough on Pettigrew to sacrifice getting Maybin or Brown (both won’t be available at #11).
We can use an extra pick or two.
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by ChipShot on Mar 23, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would trade down after Curry
I agree with the board but I would be trying to trade down right after Curry, we need a few extra picks this year.
On another note, I was reading PFT on the weekend and Florio posted an article about Connor Barwin’s pro-day where he ran a 4.47 40y dash. The article goes on to say that pro teams actually had TE coaches at his pro-day, given that he is a converted TE. They say that he could play SAM, DE or TE
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by keysh67 on Mar 23, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He obviously cannot play all 3 positions at the same time
So the question is: Which position does Barwin fit best on a Bills team?
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by moncheri on Mar 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DE first, and then redzone TE ala Vrabel
If we got say Matthews in the 1st, and then Barwin in the 2nd, thats how I would do it.
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good list
I still like Everette Brown over Maybin as I think he has just as high of ceiling and is closer to that ceiling then Maybin. He also is a more stout at the point of attack. I also rated Pettigrew higher then Oher and Orakpo. After doing some research on Pett I’ve become more comfortable with him being a higher 1st round pick. He would be an immediate upgrade in the blocking and pass catching departments.
by gatornation on Mar 23, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Brown over Maybin too, but only as a rookie
He’d have a more productive rookie season and a better immidiate impact, but, and I’ve been saying this for a while now, Maybin will be the better player in the long run. I think that once Maybin adds a few tricks to his repetoire, he will be the better DE. Maybin is stronger and faster, but Brown is smarter. It’s a tough choice.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade down should be at the topt of the list,
but Curry would be tempting. Very few players are worth passing up multiple high round picks for. Would Curry make a bigger impact than Maybin and Matthews? We have too many holes. If Curry is still on the board, then Matthews etc. are as on the board as well. Would Oher be higher on the list if we knew the Bills were not going to be able to sign Peters?
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by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that we have several holes that "we as fans would like to upgrade", but don't necessarily have to upgrade
at LB worst case scenario Ellison is our starter (he has had a lot of playing time, and should only improve on last year, and a better front 4 will increase his production), or Chambers starts on the OL (another guy who has had plenty of playing time and who has done well when in there). The Dereks filling our role as TE (which may be our biggest question mark, but i think they are more than capable). But the problem is we know what we have at DE and what we have hasn’t been real productive for the last few years. I can handle going into next year w/ our current OLB and probably even Chambers on the OL, and possibly even the dereks at TE i have a lot of faith in these guys, but i can’t go into next year w/ the same crew of DE’s who haven’t been able to get after the qb.
by Shovel51 on Mar 23, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading down.....
Every year it’s at the top of the list for many people….but I just can’t see it happening. This team just doesn’t seem to value getting extra draft picks, unfortunately.
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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you also have to find a suitor, it takes two to make a trade happen, so to say we don't value more picks is probably accurate
i think in the last few drafts this is one that we probably have the best chance of find someone who wants to trade up, just because of the 3 or 4 different guys that many teams may have rated in the top ten which could fall to 11, just to name a couple raji and oher.
by Shovel51 on Mar 23, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Case in point of devaluing additional picks
Brian has pointed out several times that when Whitner was on the board, Philly was pusing hard to take our pick to get Bunkley and we refused it because we were worried about missing out on Whitner, so we stayed pat and took him at 8. How would things have been different if we had taken the deal which would have netted us a later pick along with an additional 2 or 3 (I can’t remember right now)? That would have been a huge help for us.
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian has pointed out several times that when Whitner was on the board, Philly was pusing hard to take our pick to get Bunkley and we refused it because we were worried about missing out on Whitner, so we stayed pat and took him at 8.
I’ve actually never heard that. Not anywhere.
My understanding was that there were several offers on the table (and the one you just mentioned may very well have been on the list; I have no way of knowing), but the Bills thought that the Lions would take Whitner at #9.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Brian
I got you mixed up with another source, your so on with rumors and things like that my brain just said “It must have been Bri who mentioned this” sorry.
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year
the Bills was the ONLY team that didn’t make a draft day trade. Yes it takes 2 to tango, but if the other 31 teams can find a partner to trade with, why can’t the Bills? It is obvious there is a lack of willingness to make a trade by the Bills FO.
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by moncheri on Mar 23, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and worse...
They don’t trade down when it seems like they can (Whitner) AND they’re willing to trade up (McCargo, Poz).
by Pistol on Mar 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe – every year a beg and wish for a trade down, almost as much as I pray for Megan Fox to knock on my door and ask me to help her organize her panty drawer. Sadly, neither ever happens…
by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think she wears any :-)
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by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the problem Kry, she has never asked you because she doesn’t have one!
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by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade down
Generally, trading down is a good option, particularly if you can pick up a top 100 pick in the process.
I’d have Matthews lower than Orakpo, and take any of those top 5 at 11. I could probably be talked into moving Raji higher too. But if those 5 are gone I would hope the Bills move down 5-8 spots. I think historically there’s not much of a difference in production between 11 and 25 (the ranges, not specific picks). I know there’s some thought that the best bang for the buck in the draft is the 25-40 range.
But anything that upgrades the OL or front 7 is good with me.
by Pistol on Mar 23, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great list
I love the fact that you have defense in the top 6. I think there could be some debate w/ where orakpo falls on this list, but i can’t argue your reasons for putting him where you did. as far as trading down i think where that falls on this list won’t really be known until draft day when we see who is there at the 11 spot. If any of the DE’s are there i think you take one of them w/o thinking twice about it. If they are all off the board then i think trading down should be our number 1 priority
by Shovel51 on Mar 23, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would put trade down at 7 on this list and push oher and petti back a spot... if we can't trade down take Oher
and then get the best available DE in the 2nd round.. i hope this doesn’t happen though
by Shovel51 on Mar 23, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Aaron Curry
- I really like Curry and Everette Brown, but Brown some say could play linebacker in a 3:4 defense, as could Orakpu.
- Maybin, some are saying, should have stayed in college for another year, but he has freakish ability.
- Pettigrew was just in town over the weekend, visiting with the Bills and Lions.
- Everybody at Sports Management in Charlotte, tell me that Matthews will not be drafted before Cushing and his stock has risen late in the season.
by BuffaloWhiner on Mar 23, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brown some say could play linebacker in a 3:4 defense, as could Orakpu
Not sure how that’s terribly relevant, but obviously it’s true. We’re not looking at them as 3-4 players, but yeah, if you’re talking about that fact in terms of their potential availability, it’s certainly something to chart.
Everybody at Sports Management in Charlotte, tell me that Matthews will not be drafted before Cushing and his stock has risen late in the season.
It’ll depend on the team. Different styles of teams will like Matthews better than Cushing based on scheme. Considering the amount of 3-4 defenses in the league currently, I’d put more money on Matthews going high than Cushing.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have Brown ahead of Maybin, though the gap between the two has closed significantly recently for me. I’d be most happy with either of those two.
We think he’s by leaps and bounds the best tight end in the draft;
Not all of us think that….
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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good thing that you don’t count then. :)
Go ’Cuse, btw…
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Nice List
I’m loving the list. IMO I would take Clay Matthews. Like you said, the guy can contribute in so many ways.
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 23, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, if curry is so good, could or should the bills trade up to get him? maybe giving up their pick and peters. or peters and a 2nd????
by jzoom45 on Mar 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think any player on this list is worth giving up Jason Peters for.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good list
Hey, I’m new around here but have been reading your site for some time as it’s the best bills site, period. Hi to all.
Great list.
IMO, I’d love the bills to take one of three names at #11:
a) BJ Raji. But I think he will be gone. This guy reminds me of Ngata and will be a force in the NFL with the right coaching. Could be a great run stuffer here which we lack and would help free Stroud up, not to mention Schobel and Kelsay.
b) Brandon Pettigrew. The first round is all about taking not only starting caliber players, but someone who upgrades the team immediately and can break a game. I think Pettigrew would bring that here- he can block, and he has great hands at TE which we haven’t had for too many seasons now. He makes Lee Evans and TO even more dangerous, and frees up space for Josh Reed on 3rd downs over the middle too.
c) Malcolm Jenkins. You may think I’m mad here, but he fits our scheme and is a great talent. He has the potential to play safety or otherwise could be the starting corner in the future (ie. when McGee goes, and McKelvin makes the other spot his).
Beyond those three, I like Clay Matthews and Michael Oher but not sure I’d take them at 11. Then again, I wouldn’t have taken Whitner at 8 so who knows???
I know we need pash rushing ability, but I don’t see the Bills taking this at number 11- there’s too many question marks around each potential DE who would be available there.
My guess- Bills take Pettigrew as Raji is gone. They then concentrate on pass rush in the 2nd round, and then linebackers/o-linemen thereafter.
by Rob_Bills on Mar 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the site, Rob.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No DE???
I get Raji, but like you said, he’d likely be gone, so no contingency plan in case he’s gone, like one of the big 3 DE’s maybe?
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Malcolm Jenkins. You may think I’m mad here
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, gotta agree with J2 here
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
NO more OSU DBs until very very very very very late in the draft please, in fact, lets not take one at all this year!
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it seems crazy, but I actually don’t fancy taking a DE at 11.
I’m not sure there’s a solid pick to be made there and so I’d rather go with two guys I see as excellent bets for our team- Raji or Pettigrew.
I think Raji has a chance of slipping because teams above just have too many needs and he would be a cracking pick.
Pettigrew is next best for me because our offense needs more than just TO to get us to the next level, and TE is where we’ve had real trouble for years. Trent needs a reliable receiver there and the line need a TE who will help block.
Plus, I look at our history in drafting recently and I just don’t think we go DE at 11.
by Rob_Bills on Mar 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t look at draft history in deciding where we pick – but if we don’t go DE/DT/LB at 11 then we better trade down and grab a TE somewhere in the 15-25 range.
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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree trading down might be a good option, but I wonder whether Pettigrew will still be there.
Plus, if the Bills are content that Pettigrew is the pick they’d like I think they’d just take him at 11 rather than try to trade down and pick up extra picks as well.
Think Whitner- we could have traded down then but they went with their top guy rather than take the risk.
by Rob_Bills on Mar 23, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I think a linebacker would provide the most impact this year with the 11th pick. DEs and linemen tend to have a longer learning curve as far as putting up stats at the NFL level. I am also still intrigued by Pettigrew. He’d actually be on the field for a majority of offensive plays if we drafted him. He could really help the offense thrive. Also, who knows if any of the top 3 DE’s will be available.
If you follow the good offense = more opportunity to pressure argument Brian put up last week, it would make perfect sense to draft Pettigrew, he’d be on the field as a starter for all but a few plays and can help the run and the pass. If we pick one of the DE’s, or even Raji, they’d be on the field what, 25% of the defensive snaps? And the DE’s would be on mostly when we were already playing with a lead.
I don’t know a lot about the linebackers available in the draft, just that Curry will be off the board by the time we pick.
by syrbillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good List
I very much like this list. I’d put Raji higher, but I understand the logic you guys worked on, so I’m fine with this arrangement.
But as for trade down, I don’t think it’s gonna happen this year. I think the Bills are high on Matthews, and I’m sure he’ll be available by the #11 pick…….unless, it’s a trade down for only 1 or 2 spots. But, from the past few years’ experience, I can’t see the Bills making such a move.
BTW, Mike Mayock (and subseqently Michael Lombardi) is very high on Robert Ayers (as high as a surprise top 10 pick). If we all agree that the Bills desperately need a DE, should Ayers make the list as well?
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by moncheri on Mar 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We don’t like Ayers because he’s not the speed end the team needs and we covet. He’s an every-down player, sure, and possibly the only end that can do that from day one, but he’s way too Lawrence Jackson for us. We’d rather take a niche player that improves our pass rush than another all-around end that gives us youth but the same old crap production at the position.
And if any of the “inner circle” disagrees with that, I’ll let them say their piece on their own.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Brian has said, Ayers while a very good end, isn't what we need in our 4-3
Actually, IF we were a 3-4 D, I would be pushing Ayers and Jackson very hard as our 3 down DEs as they both excel at run stopping and in a 3-4 on passing downs, they are to hold the attention of the OTs and OGs which they can do, allowing your LBers to rush. But for us, he is not a good fit, besides, we already have Denney and Kelsay for run down anyhow, so we would just be stocking our pantry with more of the same blah ingredients.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not a big fan of either but if Matthews makes thelist where is Cushing?
by Fam_1st on Mar 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many people do we need?
Just think of Cushing at 9 or something…. One of these guys is there at #11 so there’s no need to go on for eternity I guess.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We obviously like Matthews better than we like Cushing, don’t we? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Cushings injury history that terrifies me
We already have depth issues, and injury histories with alot of our D players, so like Brian, I am of the opinion lets get someone whom we can pencil in for at least 14-16 games a year!
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Board
If Curry or Raji are there at #11 you should run up to the podium with your ticket. Realistically, I don’t see that happening. I would have trading down as top priority. I think there are maybe 8 players in the draft who will be true difference makers. On the other hand, I do not see a huge drop off in talent for the next 50 or so picks. I see this as a great year to trade down. At least a few of the players you have in your top 8 should still be on the board in the 15-25 pick range. If we can pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd Rounder by trading down it would be a great move.
by bobb498 on Mar 23, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybin Game Tape
Does anyone have any tape on Maybin? Everything i’ve seen on youtube is rather unimpressive. He seems to get pushed around like a rag doll. I like Everette Brown much more than Maybin.
You can talk about his 10 yd dash all you want, but I need to see some tape.
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 23, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I felt much the same way and I think that you will see that with any of his game tape. The difference is that he has added about 25 pounds and is still pretty darn fast, if you believe his pro day numbers. That is why I pushed him up on my list.
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by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me say this again – I like Maybin. But is there any concern as to how he put so much weight on so quick?
by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have some concern. I don’t want to accuse him of roiding, but it smells awfully fishy.
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by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the weight gain has been since early Jan, so its a little bit on the upper end
of gaining muscle mass with working out fulltime and pounding weight gainers and protein shakes, but still in the doable range before using extra “helpers”
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by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can call me naive for saying this but I don't suspect a thing
The programm that Maybin went to is recognised as one of the best in North America, and if he spent 10 hours per day for 6 straight weeks working with these ppl, then I’m entierly willing to believe that he put on 25 Lbs of muscle. It’s not unheard of, or even all that uncommon if you take into consideration proffesional MMA fighters and boxers that are switching weight classes. I honestly think that he’s on the up and up.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. My original concerns about Maybin weren’t exactly that he was small. I was just worried if he looked so quick because of how small he was and if he would retain that athleticism and first step after adding weight and strength. After the combine and pro day, I’m a believer.
He’s only added 3 pounds since the combine, so I’m not really sure why we are talking about this now. The really impressive weight gain was when he went from his playing weight to the 249 he weighed at the combine. I’m curious if he really weighed 227 when the season ended. I bet he had already put 5-10 pounds as the season went along. Even looking at those pictures, I think it’s feasable that he only added (I can’t believe I just used the word "only") about 15 pounds and that can be done in 7 or 8 weeks with an intense training and diet regimen.
by kaisertown on Mar 24, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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