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Report: Bills/Pats slated for Week 1 MNF action

A report from the Boston Herald indicates that the Buffalo Bills and New England Patriots will headline ESPN's Monday Night Football in Week 1 of the 2009 NFL regular season.

Buffalo's signing of enigmatic WR Terrell Owens and the return of QB Tom Brady in New England were likely the two headline-making deciding factors, if the report is accurate.  The matchup also pits two of the old AFL's original franchises against each other; as this is the 50th Anniversary of the AFL's inception, that likely was a huge draw as well.  As a result, it's being reported that both the Bills and Patriots will don throwback uniforms for the game (Mike Florio).

The NFL confirmed the report Monday afternoon, announcing that the Bills would make the trip to New England for the affair on September 14, 2009.  The game will air on ESPN at 7:00PM ET.

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i hate the idea of starting the season 0-1 but it sure will be fun to watch. I actually hope the game is in NE. Cuz then later in the season when we hopefully improve, I’d like to take our shot at the Pats in the middle or late part of the season when we have had time to gel. Beating the Pats is the only sign I look for to show that Dick Jauron and Russ Brandon’s plans have finally worked

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by MARVelous on Mar 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather it be in NE early too. I don’t know that the team will be better late in the season. Injuries and well, that whole collapse last season leave me skeptical. Couple that with the fact that NE are “slow” starters (who isn’t!) and I like their chances on enemy soil early on.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would rather face New England in Week 1

Isn’t that the last time we beat them? That was at home, but I think NE is easier to beat earlier in the year. It might give us more time to gel, but it also gives them more time. Which do you think is more productive? I’ll take my chances and say more time gives them more benefit. If we can beat them in that first week, it should give us good hope for the rest of the season. Also, it will be Brady’s first live game back. That has to mean something. If they’re going to be vulnerable, it will be in that first week.

by syrbillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

McNabb is a good barometer for how a QB fares in his first full game back from injury, in 2007 in his first full game back he had the following stat line:
15 of 33 throwing the ball for 184 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT read it here

Figuring that since Tom boy has better targets than McNabb has, lets say he chucks the rock for 25 of 37 for 250 and 2 TDs and an INT. Those are numbers we can compete against, unlike say the last time we played him in 2007 when he rolled up this stat line:
33 of 41 throwing the ball for 383 yards and 5 TDs and no picks, see it here

Needless to say, I too want Brady in week 1 coming back from a knee injury just recently repaired, thank you very much!

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he’s still recovering at that point! haha

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, like I alluded too with McNabb, who had NO complications stemming from his surgery

Brady will probably be really really rusty and not as athletic as he was, and he was underrated in that category for that matter pre-injury. I think he will play OK, but look a bit like Manning was this past fall in that first game. If thats what we see from Brady we only need to stop their running game to stay with them. Hope ML appeals the suspension and can play this game.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is going to be a HUGE game!!!

Funny how the signing of one little wide receiver can catapolt a team into the national conscience seemingly over night. That would be a he** of a game and I really hope that it’s played in Buffalo.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Now only if...

the Bills would have Marshawn for the game :(

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

OUCH!!!

That’s a reality none of us likes to entertain at all!!!!!

That would be a HUGE loss w/o 23 in there…………..

We NEED ALL of our talent on the field for the Pats. It’s been how long now?

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by Pocono Bob on Mar 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Far, far too long

Maybe this will end the misfortune on MNF (yay, delusional optimism)

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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t play in the MNF game against them, right? That wonderful 56-10 drubbing, if I recall.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it a Sunday night game? Maybe I got mixed up, but I think I was actually at that one.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, SNF.

On NBC, with Madden/Michaels….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was awful. At some point, Moss decided to screw around and went out to guard against the deep ball on defense. I was psyched after the Dallas MNF game to go out and lend support, but it died really quickly. Damn.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but Freddy Jack tore up the Pats in the game last year......

we’ll be okay

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hypothetically

If Marshawn is given a 2 game suspension and appeals it 2 days before the opener, does he get to play in the opener while the appeal is heard?

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by Enigma3 on Mar 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

That’d be a smooth move on his part in order to start the season for us. Matt Jones kept appealing his suspension last year until he finally had to serve it late in the year….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he get to play in the opener while the appeal is heard?

That’s a good question.

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish the Bills FO

was headed by a football executive rather than an advertising executive. The Bills FO has made a brilliant marketing move, with the signing of T.O., to have the team in the lime light from now through the first four weeks of the season. But after our predictable 0 and 4 start, the only news coming out of OBD will be Owens blowing up or Jauron being fired before week 8. As of this date, the Bills roster has been weakened while our division foes have improved their rosters. But the FO will have us in the lime light, unfortunately it will be an embarrassing lime light for Bills Fans and the City of Buffalo.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

“What is the ‘glass-half-empty approach’ to Bills fandom?”

I’ll take Bills/Pats on MNF for $70, Alex…

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is the ‘glass-half-empty approach’ to Bills fandom?

It was all that Dan Marino’s fault, everyone knows that. If he had held the ball, laces out, like he was supposed to, Ray would never have missed that kick. Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Would you like a cookie, son?

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL..........

Laces out Dan!!!!!!!!!!!

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 23, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he had held the ball, laces out, like he was supposed to, Ray would never have missed that kick.

I never bought Sean Young being cast as tranny kicker Ray Finkel, she was way too hot back then. I wonder who would play Scott Norwood in a similar role, Jessica Biel?

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the relevance...

If our “advertising executive” made the football decisions, OK. He doesn’t.

I also don’t see how our team has been “weakened”. We added T.O. and got rid of Royal and Dockery, two of our biggest liabilities. The Jets lost a Hall of Fame QB and have a new coach, the Dolphins added….. ?, the Pats added Galloway and Taylor which were good additions on their part but I don’t think those are going to make or break our games vs. them.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Dockery is a better guard than Chambers or Hangartner. I believe Crowell is a better LB than Thomas. I believe is Greer a better CB than Florence. Unless I.m mistaken Russ Brandon is the GM in charge of operations. Does that not includes all personnel decisions?

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe is Greer a better CB than Florence

boooooo that move – boooo it. I don’t care about circumstance or being paid too much. You get a guy thats good and you keep him (maybe not clements money). Same thing with Peters – we finally get an elite player at a position and now we have to trade him because we can’t pony up the dough?

give me a break

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bills have a unique front office structure where they make football decisions collectively.

Russ Brandon isn’t the guy that says “we are signing this guy, end of story.” It’s through consensus-building. He has the title G.M. but the buck does not stop with him. He only added that G.M. title recently. Originally he was the C.O.O.

Before I even talk about the free agents you mentioned, we have plenty of time to further address these holes on our roster.

For Dockery, we were paying him top 5 money to be a bottom ten OG. Maybe a player that is better than him isn’t on the roster now. Crowell is better than Thomas in my book but that doesn’t mean he should be back. Plus nobody has seen him run or play since his surgery. He’s an awfully big question mark. I don’t know if paying three starting CBs while developing Corner and Youboty is the best use of our money. McGee, McKelvin, and Greer would all demand that money. It’s not always about who is better.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russ Brandon isn’t the guy that says "we are signing this guy, end of story." It’s through consensus-building. He has the title G.M. but the buck does not stop with him. He only added that G.M. title recently. Originally he was the C.O.O.

That’s a little too “company line” for me. The fact of the matter is that personnel decisions start and end with Dick Jauron.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing we can agree on...

Either way, Russ Brandon is not making the personnel decisions.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russ Brandon is the GM. People work or don’t work at OBD at his pleasure. He sets the direction of the organization with the blessing of Ralph Wilson. My point is that I wish the GM of the Bills was more skilled at building a winning product than marketing a product.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you’re not exactly giving Brandon a fair shake. He’s been doing this for less than two years; just over a full year, in fact. You can’t really blame him for anything before that.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t blame Brandon. I think he is doing the best he can. I just wish he had a backround of building a winning team instead of handling PR and damage control.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unique?

That’s a kind way to put it….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant in that no other NFL teams do it that why to my knowledge.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say our roster has been weakened. I would say it hasn’t gotten significantly better, if at all. However, the other 3 division foes seem to have done a good job improving, so our lack of significant improvement could be a problem…

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

our roster is so young, with our guys getting better, mostly Trent Edwards, is where our roster improves….not really with FA additions

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by MARVelous on Mar 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ve been hearing about young guys improving for years. Will we ever see significant improvement out of more than a small handful of guys? You can’t just rely on young guys improving when you went winless in the division and were one of the worst teams in the league over the final two months of the season. The signing of TO was a good start, but we’ve still got some work to do. The young guys improving greatly would be excellent, but it’s worrisome that that’s what we’re hoping for in order to really turn it around….

Man, do we need Edwards to take a big step forward this year. If he plays mediocre football again, this team is screwed.

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah – we’re screwed.

I see flashes of things I like from him. But not sure if he’s got it – every time I think about him I think we finally found a great backup QB – not franchise like we want. I better be wrong

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re not as happy-go-lucky as you have been before, J2. Find your happy place!

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha – na – a bunch of friends and myself have been watching film over the last 2 weekends (yes, were lame) and we’re very concerned.

just seems shy – even before the AZ game. Hopefully he’ll break out of his shell and just try to make plays. if he does that he might be o.k.

i’m just sick of looking for “the guy” – I want Edwards to be “it” – just not sure is all

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but that is what we are banking on in reality is what I’m saying. Obviously most notably Trent Edwards being the most important young guy to improve. But if our team is to ever succeed in our division, our young guys that we drafted have to develop into studs. So that means Poz, Ellis, Fine, McKelvin, Corner, Bell, Hardy, etc. You can’t add enough guys in FA or the draft unless you get lucky or spend a boat load that will signifcantly improve your team…..but ultimately #5 improving to a top 10 QB will make everyone else better

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by MARVelous on Mar 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

However, the other 3 division foes seem to have done a good job improving, so our lack of significant improvement could be a problem…

Bills signings: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, C Geoff Hangartner, CB Drayton Florence, WR Terrell Owens, LB Pat Thomas
Bills “losses”: QB J.P. Losman, TE Robert Royal, OG Derrick Dockery, C Melduke Prestfowsuck, LB Angelo Crowell, CB Jabari Greer

Dolphins signings: S Gibril Wilson, OG Joe Berger, C Jake Grove, CB Eric Green
Dolphins losses: S Renaldo Hill, CB Andre Goodman, C Samson Satele

Jets signings: LB Bart Scott, CB Lito Sheppard, S Jim Leonhard, LB Larry Izzo, DT Howard Green, DE Marques Douglas
Jets losses: QB Brett Favre, WR Laveranues Coles, DT C.J. Mosley, CB Hank Poteat, DE David Bowens, LB Eric Barton, K Mike Nugent, TE Chris Baker

Patriots signings: RB Fred Taylor, TE Chris Baker, CB Shawn Springs, WR Greg Lewis, CB Leigh Bodden, LS Nathan Hodel, WR Joey Galloway
Patriots losses: WR Jabar Gaffney, LS Lonnie Paxton, RB LaMont Jordan, LB Mike Vrabel, QB Matt Cassel, LB Larry Izzo, FB Heath Evans

Honestly, I think every team has done good things, even though the Jets’ QB situation is ridiculous right now. I don’t buy the “we haven’t gotten significantly better” line. We’ve gotten more explosive. But everything is on paper. It’s all on Edwards – if he performs, we can compete with all three of these teams. That’s the long and short of it.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

First, I’d add Brady returning to any Pats discussion. That’s a pretty sizable improvement, I think we’ll all agree on that…

Honestly, I think every team has done good things, even though the Jets’ QB situation is ridiculous right now. I don’t buy the "we haven’t gotten significantly better" line. We’ve gotten more explosive.

So we have gotten significantly better?

We’ve gotten more explosive, yes. But that’s for this year only, which almost makes me want to leave that out for comparison purposes. I do love the fact that our O could be much improved, I will say that!!!

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if it matters, I’ve never seen him play before, but the Bills wanted to sign him as well, but the Dolphins should have Cameron Wake added to their signed list.

by Fucilli5 on Mar 23, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark my words

Watch out for Cameron Wake, he had 39 sacks in two season in the CFL as a DE. He is the perfect 3-4 OLB-DE, comparable to Terell Suggs in ability, versatility and talent, this kid is going to be big for the ’phins he they give him the chance.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you feel we have improved or digressed at LG, OLB or CB?

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t the goal of a GM to improve his roaster through Free Agency?

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I see it as a push.

I kinda like the idea of our pick of C/G’s in the 2nd round of the draft over Dockery. OLB, it’s the exact same situation as last year, because Crowell didn’t play, but we now have another LB to compete with Ellison. At CB, we lost a starter in Greer, but have replaced the starter spot with McKelvin, who should steadily improve as a playmaker, and replaced McKelvin’s spot with Florence, a seasoned veteran who isn’t that far removed from some solid seasons with the Chargers.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, a GM's job is to improve his team through the draft and fill in the blanks with FA

You build a good team through the draft, not FA. Otherwise the Redskins would win the superbowl every year.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does fill in the Blanks mean to you?

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time and time again,

winning teams are not built through Free Agency. What signings in free agency would have drastically improved the roster? What OLB was such a huge improvement? What TE was a huge improvement? What OG was a huge improvement? They couldn’t fabricate players.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It means that you fill the important positions of need threw the draft, like our wholes at LB and TE. then you let your young guys come up and fill other spots, like McKelvin. And then you sign players for depth purposes, like Pat Thomas. You can’t fill every open spot with a FA, and you shouldn’t. To me the only goof FA signing are the ones that don’t set your team back, like Hangartner.

I think that OBD has been doing a good job of signing for now, while planning for the future. We can’t sign every superstar Fa on the market. Besides the vast majority of FA superstars don’t play nearly as well on their new teams as they did on their original ones, and I’m quite confident that Haynsworth will prove my point this year.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year did we not have more 2008 FA or traded players starting for us than players we got in last years draft? Certainly the draft is crucial in building a team. But don’t minimize Free Agency or trades. If i’m not mistaken our best D-Lineman was not drafted by us.If i look at NE, Moss and Welker were not drafted by NE. Same with the Jets and Miami. By the way if you recall we were swept by all those teams. The GM job is to hire players that improve our roster by the draft, free agency or trades. So far this season he has made one improvement and three disimprovements to our roster. That’s not acceptable.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll ask again....
What signings in free agency would have drastically improved the roster? What OLB was such a huge improvement? What TE was a huge improvement? What OG was a huge improvement? They couldn’t fabricate players.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say TO drastically improved our roster

But he was just about the only FA that could have this year, everyone else that could have was franchised.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laverneus Coles...

but we ended up with a better player in the long run I think anyways. No TE existed. No OG existed outside of Jason Brown. I don’t think any OLB out there not named Bart Scott was an improvement either.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not have let Dockery, Crowell and Greer get away and replace them with three backups. Not to mention creating three more holes. I would have signed Jason Brown along with Hangartner. I would have traded for Winslow. Not to mention Canty also. Now when I go into the draft I have a better nucleus to start with. But of course,since the GM has no accountability for the teams performance, just let Jauron get fired, I’ll show Wilson how much money I saved him and get a nice pat on the head.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So where’s the money for Brown, Winslow and Canty coming from then?

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bills probably didn't know Winslow was on the trading block to begin with.

We forced Dockery to walk. He was not good last year. Keeping a not good player is how to build a successful team?

We replaced Greer with McKelvin. We replaced McKelvin’s role on the team with a backup.

Jason Brown is making a heck of a lot of money this year. There’s a reason only one team was bidding for him and that was because his price was too high.

I appreciate what you’re saying about filling holes via free agency. I don’t think the players were there. You still only mention one replacement player. It’s not that you are wrong for wanting to do it but there are lots of ways to improve your team. I don’t think looking at the free agent signings is the best way to assess that.

As for your last little comment, I think it’s not about saving Wilson money. You make more money when you win. If you get a home playoff game you make lots of money. The goal, therefore, is not to save money but to make the playoffs. That will get you your “nice pat on the head.”

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If your a GM you better know whats happening within the league and your competion. Not knowing a player is available who can fill a big void on your roster is for poor GM’s. You improve your team one player one position at a time. Who do we have on the roster now better than Dockery? We now have created a major hole. It’s not rocket science to know that you build your team from the line out. I would have brought in people to challenge Dockery. If they beat him out so be it. But now I have a new hole to fill. Jason Brown is worth the money. Especially in our situation with no crediable center and facing monster NT’s in our division. Jason would have filled that hole. But instead we get a backup and hope a stong center falls to us in the draft. Not smart if you want to build a good O-Line and competitive team. Crowell is better than Ellison and Thomas. He’s a starter not a back up. Not smart if you want to improve your LB cor and defense overall. Greer is better than Florance. Once again a step backward. Not smart if you want good DB debth. But best of all I now go into the draft with fewers hole to fill. I’m freer to trade or make deals. Once again you improve your team by bring in people to challenge your current roster. You don’t get rid of starters and hope and pray someone new will step up.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Browns and Bucs don’t have to tell anyone about trading Winslow, not that I would even want him on the team. He’s a me-first guy. They could have known about him being on the block or not and it wouldn’t have mattered.

Dockery was owed a huge roster bonus so they cut him. He wasn’t worth what they were paying him and certainly not a huge roster bonus so they got rid of him. The LG position will be as good in 09 than 08.

Hangartner is a credible Center. That’s why we signed him.

By your logic we are signing tons of guys and giving them lots of signing bonuses only to cut them after paying those signing bonuses and receiving no play in return. It doesn’t make business sense. This isn’t Madden where the money is fake. We’re talking millions of dollars in wasted money.

I liked Crowell too. The coaches didn’t love him so he’s not here. You can argue with them all you want.

They had Greer’s replacement in McKelvin so what you need to argue is that McKelvin last year is better than Florence will be this year and I don’t know if that is a legitamate argument. Drayton Florence, terrible last year, was excellent as a nickel corner in San Diego.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 24, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Browns and Bucs don’t have to tell anyone about trading Winslow, not that I would even want him on the team.

So the Browns wouldn’t want teams to get into a bidding war?

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by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t have to tell anyone. If they were happy with the compensation from the Bucs they didn’t have to call Buffalo or Philly or anyone else.

I’m not saying they did or didn’t. We can’t know.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 24, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, they don’t have to tell another team, but they’d be stupid to not shop him around. I’m sure every team in the league knew he was available….

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by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

LG: I think, as of today, we are slightly worse with Chambers instead of Dockery. And that’s mostly because Chambers doesn’t have a track record to look at. Dockery was bad last year, and with that ‘elephant in the room’ contract he had, I’m not saying we’re worse off without him.

OLB: Improved? No. Regressed? No. Stayed the same? Thus far, yes. Therefore, no significant improvement (or regression) here. I don’t count Crowell in this at all.

CB: Honestly, I liked Greer, but I don’t think we’re any worse without him. We played without him for half the season last year, and Leo looked good. With another offseason to prepare and mentally get himself ready for a full-time starter’s role, I think he’ll be better than Greer was at any point in his Bills career this season. Depth may be a bigger question mark, since I’d rather have McGee, Leo and Greer as our top 3 (with Youboty #4) over McGee, Leo and Florence.

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

K is right

Crowell didn’t play at all last year, so adding Thomas, while not a headliner of a signing, is more then we had last year.

Also the job of the GM is to improve the team. Period. I think we can all agree that the Colts are a pretty good team, look at how many free agents they have signed the last 5 years.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what if Crowell didn’t play last year. The point is he’s better than Ellison and Thomas. And will play this year.Instead of starting for us he will start for Tampa. We let a good player get away and replaced him with a back up. Now we have another hole to fill.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if he is better after injury

No one knows, and this is all pre-draft, “make the team better” speculation. Colts comparison is good, and I know it is one our staff looks at. Yu don’t have to sign a bunch of free agents to get better. If the QB gets it, the line plays well and there are enough weapons, you’re offense can be top 15. If your defense can play well, and get after the QB better, you’ll have a slightly better defense that was survicable, and might get better in turnover ratio. With that said you could be looking at improvement, but if we fail in the draft, and find no impact players and Edwards regresses, then we’re 4-12, the coach is fired and welcome to a top 5 pick next year…

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Mar 23, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what if Crowell didn’t play last year.

The defense was as good if not better then the year before. That is with Ellison starting and not Crowell.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish the Bills FO was headed by a football executive rather than an advertising executive.

I don’t care if its the pillsbury dough boy (or stay puft marshmellow man) – if he builds a winner then i’m down. who cares about title if he wins a championship. build me a good team dough boy and i’ll eat your food any day

or something something

We got no food, no jobs... our PET'S HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!"

by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could have better food at the Ralph.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

J2 – come on….The Pillsbury Dough Boy definitely knows more about football than the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man; it’s common knowledge for cryin’ out loud….

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I think the Jolly Green Giant could draft us up a heck of a championship caliber D

Just let him loose on draft day is all I gotta say.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Initially I thought for sure it’d be in Foxboro, but on further thought, given the atmosphere at the Ralph the last two years on MNF and the chance that it’d be a better game with the Pats on the road I think it’ll be a home game.

by Pistol on Mar 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm guessing it'd be at the Ralph too, but not for that reason....

If the Pats are on the road in week 1, they can play up Brady’s return to the league. When they have a home game in week 2, they can play up Brady’s return to Foxboro. The league can promote TWO games more than just Brady’s home return in week 1….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Marshawn point is valid.

It’s too bad we won’t have our most consistent weapon in the game if this is true.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Brian Moorman should be able to play.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Moorman plays, he’s the best player on our team. We can’t afford to not have him play.

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said most consistent...

Moorman was inconsistent last year.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it would be best if he didn’t see the field.

by syrbillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And we saw how that turned out at the end of the year…

by Dyl on Mar 23, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who said it was the Bills winning 31-0?

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your Dumb and Dumber sig

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was funny that I put another Carrey reference up above with the Venture bit – that guy cracks me up

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaaaaaaaaaand buzzkill.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Patriots closed the 2008 season on the road against the Buffalo Bills, and they’re going to open the 2009 season against the Bills at home on “Monday Night Football.”

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. I live in Rhode Island at the moment so it’s actually easier to see the Pats-Bills game in Foxboro (god Gillette Stadium sucks, no character) than in Buffalo (though for the extra 6 hours of driving each way, it might still be worth it). If this Monday Night game happens, I swear to you all, I’ll kick in money to have Bills fans shipped in, because if I have to endure a drubbing like that again and listen to those self-righteous, band-wagon crybabies go on and on about how Tom Brady could fly to the moon on the power of dreams, I’m gonna use my Lee Evans throwback jersey to garrot as many of them to death as I can.

I see like 10 Bills fans when I’m there, and the madness needs to end. We just look at each other like we know it’s gonna be a rout, but still pay the $150 ticket and $50 parking fees to watch our dreams shattered.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for representing there. It’s gotta be tough…

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

MNF

Is that how the normal rotation goes? Or can it be the same order in the following year? After Marshawn’s expected 2-4 game suspension is issued, can he appeal and play in the first, pivotal AFC East game against the beloved Pats?

Either way the game should have a lot of fireworks, though it seems like everyone seems to have us penciled penned in for a lose, it will be nice to see the Bills compete, as I think we will match up well against the Pats and the game should be close.

by billsct11 on Mar 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know what you are asking....
Is that how the normal rotation goes? Or can it be the same order in the following year?

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

think of the repurcussions of victory

If the Buffalo Bills and Terrell Owens somehow pull out a victory on MNF in week 1 and in Foxboro just imagine how high the Buffalo Bills will rise in terms of NFL story of the year. Everyone will be talking about how TO is going to take us into the playoffs and how Trent is taking the next step and how cagey Dick Jauron is scrapping his way to the playoffs and a job extension. The media attention from such a win alone could be enough to make Buffalo relevant enough to continue raising awareness about our struggle to stay in Buffalo and could help us attract free agents.

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by poz on Mar 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

good thinking – but the start from last year followed by the epic collapse might make people be a little cautious.

i’d just like to have the W and have it against the Pats would be very welcome start to the season

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by J2 on Mar 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially against the Pats. This is starting to feel like the ’70’s against the Dolphins.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like...

the media attention last year we got after we went 5-1 helped us out?
Seriously. I’m kinda scared. No team that starts well ends well. It’s a long rough season, and nobody can sustain a high level of play for that long.
On a serious note, though, I’m scared about next season. It’s not that I don’t see the good in our beloved hometown team, but I’m genuinely scared that a 4-12 season is not out of the question. That really never occurred to me last year, but it does this year.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bills could be a better team than last year and still finish 4-12. How? 4 wins against opponents with >.500 records, that’s a fourfold increase! They’ll get plenty of opportunities given the better competition on this years schedule.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

from your post to god’s ear

by gjv on Mar 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ve been hearing about young guys improving for years. Will we ever see significant improvement out of more than a small handful of guys?

Problem with this is when we do finally develop our homegrown talent, we don’t pony up the cash to keep them.

Where else would you rather be...

by Slick Shifty on Mar 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sometimes it feels like

the Bills are a farm team for the 31 other teams.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They learned that from Darcy Regier.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s kind of a Catch-22, but the Steelers do it. They’re a small market team too (with admittedly much better resources). They raise up players and let them go once they feel they’ve gotten too expensive (see Porter, Joey). The problem, I think, is that Pittsburgh has been doing it for a really long time. We mortgaged our future with Donahoe (ironically, from the aforementioned franchise) and we’re just starting to get back to form, I think. I wish we had more time. Or more accurately that we had been doing this kind of thing right along.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They seem to do a better job in the draft. Furthermore, they’ve had only 3 head coaches in the past 40 years; the Bills have had 12 within that same time span. It comes down to ownership and front office over the long haul.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if

The league were to tell the Bills that the game would be “home” for the opener only if it was played in Toronto?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The league has no stake in the Toronto series.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I fully believe this. They have a stake in the British Invasion, how is this different in the grand scheme of things?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the deal with Britain is with the entire NFL – the league can schedule any two teams over there each year. If the entire NFL were playing games in Toronto, then they’d have a say in that as well – beyond their “OK Buffalo, you’re playing [insert team] there this year.”

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understood. I still think the NFL stands to profit long-term from the Canadian Soil venture.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it will profit anymore than it already does

There already is a HUGE core of fans in Canada, so I don’t think that bringing games to a city that most canadians aren’t particularly fond of will raise the NFL’s popularity in Canada. I do think that it will bring more ppl from southern Ontario to Ralph Wilson Stadium, but as an overall picture with the rest of Canada, it wont do much.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NFL can’t make the Bills do it, but it is consistent with their plans for world domination. Who knows what other horse trading is done behind closed doors, not that any of it benefits current Bills fans or the people of WNY.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The deal with the Bills is essentially leasing two Bills games....

The NFL approves but doesn’t get compensated, the Bills do.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s official: Bills at Patriots, September 14, 2009 at 7PM ET.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

League announced it today...

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-6-102/Bills-at-Patriots-will-open-Monday-night-twinbill.html

“That’ll be unbelievable,” Bills head coach Dick Jauron said. “I’m really excited about that. It’s terrific news for us, terrific news for our fans.”

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terrific news if it was a home game Dicky! Going to NE in week 1, on MNF, doesn’t seem like the greatest thing in the world….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is good news.

Lots of excuses if we lose. Pats get emotional lift from Brady’s return and the crowd will be Crowd pumped, Lynch will be suspended, nobody will expect us to win a road opener at NE. Lets hope we can keep it close. That will be a win in my book.

Why is 'bra' singular and 'panties' plural?

by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s always a bunch of excuses when we lose….we don’t have to worry about finding any of those!

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going to NE in week 1, on MNF, doesn’t seem like the greatest thing in the world….

I couldn’t agree more. You have the chance to get your teeth kicked in on the national stage, and then get to have a short preparation week for game #2. Great way to start the season. Jauron must be thrilled about this.

What’s the opening line? I gotta guess Buffalo plus 13.

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if we win?

Why is 'bra' singular and 'panties' plural?

by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then we’ll all be happy. And STUNNED

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And very very very very drunk

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing we have to fear

is fear itself!!!

This is America baby!! Bring em on!!

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by poz on Mar 23, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this? Balboa v Drago???

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s more like Webster versus Drago. And poor little Emmanuel Lewis has an arm tied behind his back. And someone told Drago the Webster kid kicked his dog…right in the face.

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha nice

EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!!!

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by poz on Mar 23, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That early in a season, no team should be getting 13, especially when neither team made the playoffs the season before. I’d say it’ll be 3.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing it’d be around -8 or -9 for NE. Maybe more. Definitely won’t be 3, that’d be saying both teams are equal on a neutral field.

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three is what you get for just being the visiting team. Now, you have one of the most successful teams of the last few years versus one of the least successful teams of the last few years. Right now, I’d say the only thing we have to look forward to in that game are cutaway shots of Gisele…

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, its better than some of his other quotes regarding said Pats

Lets hope Brady looks like old man time when he hits the field for the first game back

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is exciting

I can’t wait. The fact the game is in New England, however, is scary. Brady’s first game back, fans going nuts – should be fun to watch. This will be the Bills biggest TV audience ever, outside of their Super Bowl games.

by ccthemovieman on Mar 23, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Every team believes it can get to the playoffs before the first game. This will be a good measuring stick for the Bills. Despite Miami’s status as reigning division champion, NE with Brady is the team to beat in the East.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope not a chance.

It’s the 7:00 game. That means it’s destined for the NFL network.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL network gets Monday night games?

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by poz on Mar 23, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not.

I thought that is what they did last year but Brian’s update says ESPN.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BB.com is reporting ESPN as well. I’m fairly certain they ran both opening week MNF games last year, too.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 23, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I misremembered . When they originally started this thing that was the plan. Early game on NFLN and the late game on ESPN. But enough people complained that they changed that up and staggered the games and locations more. If the early game runs late then it gets moved over to the NFLN except in local markets.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

first 2 MNF games on the first MONDAY are always ESPN’s and a double header

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by MARVelous on Mar 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN gets 2 MNF games opening weekend since I think NBC gets the first actual game of the year

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think NFL Network has ever been granted a MNF game. I find it unlikely they’d move such a timeless event to such a marginal audience.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope Brady is rusty.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet

The boss has already approved my personal day for Tuesday, 9/15/09.

Where else would you rather be...

by Slick Shifty on Mar 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Smartest move I can think of. We should all be so pro-active.

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow....

It’s the second or third week of school…. I probably have to go. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet skipping a morning class or two won’t kill the career my man…

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not as simple as it soulnds man

when your a student, skipping class is easy. When your a teacher, not so much.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think he thought I meant student.

It’s ok. I could take it if I wanted to. :-)

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did MRW. My bad. In any event, I still think you should schedule a personal day for the day after the opener…

by krytime on Mar 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could....

should maybe not….

Put it this way… The day after the Cowboys MNF game I went into work after going to the game, screaming my throat out, and getting 3 hours of sleep. I don’t like missing work generally.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 24, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

like a good American MRW!

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by poz on Mar 24, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since both teams will be wearing 50th anniversary throwbacks, what exactly will we see on the Bills??? They’ll be wearing white jerseys, so will they be the unis from the inaugural season with the silver helmets, or will we see the white helmets with the standing buffalo and the jerseys from the 60’s/70’s?

I’d love to see the uniforms both teams wore 50 years ago. That makes the most sense!

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

1960 AFL records

Team…………….W…..L……T…….Pct….PF…PA
Buffalo Bills……..5……8……1…….385…296..303 (third)
Boston Patriots..5……9……0…….357…286…349 (fourth)

Not that this matters, but the Bills beat the Patriots both games in 1960. Seems like a great omen for the 50th anniversary.

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by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet they add a 3rd jersey (well 3rd type – because they have so many permutations now). It’ll be a major merchandising coup on the NFL’s part, and the Bills get yet another option for Owens fans.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want the oldest school guys myself.

But nobody else does.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bills will be wearing white jerseys with a silver helmet and a red squatting buffalo with the letters “N.B.S.” beneath the buffalo. Take that Bellicheat!

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by Enigma3 on Mar 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a trucking company that sends a semi every week like clockwork through our little town. I don’t know how big they are or how far they reach, but I love the company name and logo. The logo on the side of the trucks shows a bull squatting and taking a dumper surrounded by a circle with a diagonal line through it. They call themselves “N.B.S. Trucking”. No Bull S**t. Can’t believe they get away with it. Their slogan – “We care about your load”! Hilarious.
 http://www.nbstrucking.com/

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by Enigma3 on Mar 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is pretty funny actually

would be hilarious for the Bills to wear that on their helmets

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget, it’s the 7:00 game. That means it’s going to be a limited national audience.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Or not.

I guess ESPN is going to show both this time. Disregard.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN always shows both. Not sure why you’d think otherwise. NFLN gets games the second half of the year.

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turkey Night kickoff for NFLN.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because when they first got the contract there was only one game. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2040130) It wasn’t until later that year that they decided to go to two games. Originally the early game was going to be on the NFLN because it was their first year actually showing games. But because the NFLN wasn’t available everywhere the feedback was horrible and they quickly put both games on ESPN.

by twoeightnine on Mar 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine if they did put a week 1 game on the NFLN?? Holy crap, the uproar that would ensue….

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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

tickets

i got to school in boston, if i can get my tix ill be there

by jwest529 on Mar 23, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like this at all

We start the year at 0-1!! SON OF A B****!! Tom Brady comes back and TORCHES our secondary – guaranteed. Oh and I think that if we don’t get a TE with some sort of pass catching ability in here ASAP our season is AGAIN one injury away from NO PLAYOFFS!

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Mar 23, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Mckelvin will take a Brady pass to the house

his first game back, he’ll be rusty enough to hit Leo in the hands and he will take it back.

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 23, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No game tape of T.O.

Brady rusty….

Am I the only one who thinks the Bills have a better-than-normal shot against the Pats????

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bills will have an extra preseason game....

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is excited?

I think they can win. It’s not out of the realm of possibility. People are already ssaying 0-1 for cyin’ out loud

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if we trade Peters, have to start a rookie LT, Lynch is suspended, and the Pats pull off the Peppers trade?????

There is a loooooooong way to go before opening day. Even if we are at full strength, I will be happy if we play well. Not saying we can’t win, but would you bet the house on it?

Why is 'bra' singular and 'panties' plural?

by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

I think the Bills can win. A lot of people think they can’t.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

THey can win any game

All we have to do is be able to attack on offense, and get a couple big plays and we’re in it. I just don’t want to see Jauron play “smarty ball” where he tries to just play keep away. This game will dictate alot of the hopefully new mindset of the coaching staff/

The Bills CAN win every game

by killascript on Mar 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Prediction

Bills – 31 Pats – 28

TO and Josh Reed catch TD passes, and Freddy scores from short. Brady outplays Edwards as usual but not by much…….you heard it here first.

by billsct11 on Mar 23, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Edwards’ delts are getting jacked – they may carry him over the Brady barrier for this matchup.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Trent’s delts are the reason we’ll beat New England.

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

How are his Pecs then? My wife wants to know....

He’s the only Bill she really likes, aside from Marshawn whom for her as a non-football fan she can recognize the passion he brings to the field.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I was watching the draft with my girlfriend (well she was in the room with me) when we picked Lynch. When ESPN showed his profile picture, she started hysterically laughing. I’m not sure what that means, but I’ll take it as a good sign.

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow you guys had your girlfriends in the same room while watching sports?

I’m just getting my gf used to hockey, she leaves the appartment whenever I put on football.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 23, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s about the only thing she’s watched. That, and SU basketball games. Other than that, she couldn’t care less with sports.

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

see mine could just care less.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 24, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife will watch the Bills with me for a while as moral support

And she will happily watch any WVU team play on tv as she spent most of her youth growing up there. My wife does like baseball and watched most of the WBC with me which was a nice surprise.

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 24, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mines a sports fan

My wife is a huge PSU fan, (she’s an alum) and she loves her Giants, Rangers and unfortunately her Yankees. We watch PSU when they are on Saturdays, and she will watch a Rangers game with me when it is on. Sundays she gets to watch the Giants and I normally miss out on the Bills because they aren’t on tv.
Because of this if the Mets and Yanks are on at the same time, she won’t fight me.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 24, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are a rare and lucky buckaroo. My wife, like most women, could care less about sports.

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by Enigma3 on Mar 24, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely better that there wont be much tape on T.O. in our tweaked offense for the Pats coaches to take notes on. Because normally when they take notes on our offense, bad things happen for us.

by billsct11 on Mar 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

more like cliffs notes

Last year, I swear I saw Belicheat carrying one of those 1st grade ruled composition books with the title “Buffalo Bills Offense” written in crayon. Even so, it would be better for us to face the Pats in the first game.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crayon? Wow, they let Turk have writing implements that sharp?!?

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 23, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. Only the big fat crayons and he’s not allowed to use them after the 2nd quarter.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he used an Etch A Sketch??????

Why is 'bra' singular and 'panties' plural?

by Joe P. on Mar 23, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no!

This is going to be the Teddy Bruschi episoide all over again, but instead of Bruschi, it’s going to Tom Brady this, Tom Brady that! ugh! If I couldn’t hate the guy anymore. I’m going to mute the game, no way I can listen to the announcers all game praise that bag of ****.

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 23, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

right on John

I think the 3rd or 4th time I have to hear about Brady’s comeback will make me vomit.

To be fair, Pats fans will vomit after the 3rd or 4th mention of TO

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 23, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

I was thinking about that game too.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 23, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly, the Pat’s have more stories announcers like Tony Cornhole will fall in love with:

  1. Brady comeback (obviously the big one)
  2. Brady/Moss reunion
  3. Brady’s union with Gisele Bündchen (who is at the game trying not to look ultra hot, but of course is unsuccessful)
  4. Moss is better than Owens (I’m not saying it, but someone probably will)
  5. Belicheat surviving departure of assistants
  6. Belicheat surviving departure of Pioli
  7. Belicheat surviving spygate (oldie but goodie)
  8. NE missing playoffs with 11-5 record

Excuse me while I clean the barf off of my keyboard…

Outside of Owens, Buffalo will have to earn any honorable mention with their play on the field. That’s OK, if the Bills win, the victory will be that much more sweeter.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 23, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

KEEP THE FAITH

A victory would surely be made sour or a loss equally more devastating by Mike Tirico – who would point out the last time the Bills beat the Pats was in Buffalo on opening day 2003 and that the last time we beat them in Foxboro was 2000!

However, despite those facts and the beating our team/fans take from the national media (especially the last 10-15 years) there is no substitute for watching your team don those impressive blue and red (occasionally white) uniforms and go to battle for you each and every Sunday for the chance of NFL supremacy. And it’s that chance, that excitement, that fervor to be part of something that is greater than ourselves that keeps us coming back for more.

Bills Fans – There is always a Chance for greatness and surely our hearts/souls have bled from disappointed in the past but it’s a new season and there is still HOPE. Hope that our O-line can hold up and hope that our defense can get QB pressure/turnovers and most importantly, hope that Trent is a franchise quarterback. Granted we all would have liked to have the holes on our roster filled through free agency, but let’s not pass judgment on the One Bills Drive just yet until we see what the draft looks like and the improvement our young core of players may make over this offseason. Keep the faith fans, for there is young talent on the roster and if the stars align just right, not only will the popcorn ready, but it will be overflowing from the Ralph all season long!!!!

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Blind Faith on Mar 23, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like this guy!

Hells yea!! REC"D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m on board buddy!

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 23, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blind Faith, you’re true to your moniker. And you are indeed correct, this is the time of year for hope. With a good draft that kernel of hope will grow. When we see Owens catching a TD pass in the preseason, hope will blossom. If the Bills win their week one match-up against our nemesis, hope will be uncontainable. We can worry about getting the inevitable kick in the teeth later, now is the time for hope. I’m so full of freakin’ hope, that I think that Fred Jackson will run all over the Patriots, making us temporary forget about Lynch’s [assumed] suspension.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 24, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Historically, this is true:

We can worry about getting the inevitable kick in the teeth later, now is the time for hope.

We all know that feeling and I’m guilty as any fan for conditioning myself for that inevitable mishap. Every time Marshawn plows forward for a first down or Trent completes a pass for > than 15 yards, or our defense somehow stops the opponent on third down, or McKelvin sees daylight and takes a kickoff to the house – I’m left there just screaming in my head " No flag – No flag, for god’s sake, please NO FLAG!

It’s that horrible feeling that no matter what the score, how much time is left, we find a way to blow it – It’s certainly a defense mechanism that we the fans have taken to protect our delicate souls, but I’m left wondering if that mentality (i.e. accepting mediocrity) has infected our locker room as well…

That said, now is the time for hope. Maybe now, we have a leader in the locker room (a coach, a player, a staff, somebody) who isn’t willing to accept that "The ball is a funny shape and sometimes it just doesn’t bounce your way" garbage. Maybe now, with Jauron’s head on the line or through Trent’s maturation process, or with the acquisition of #81, all of that can change. Throw in a good draft and more hope grows…

NJBill, you are correct – a victory over our nemesis in week one would go a long way and there is no doubt that Fast Freddie can carry the load!!! Let’s also hope that while there might not be “i” in t-e-a-m, there is one “TO” in every T-O-u-c-h-d-o-w-n, he scores!!!!

by Blind Faith on Mar 24, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think of Bills fans as not resigned to mediocrity, but all too familiar with it. Whenever we seem to turn a corner, we find out that we’re back to where we started—like a Twilight Zone episode. I think what sets us apart from other fans is that we don’t let the disappointment we feel affect our loyalty, or as you put it in your previous post…hope. I believe that this is possible because we share some genetic defect. Most normal logical people would have given up on the Bills long ago.

Because of where I live, I have a perfect out. Both the Giants and Devils won their respective championships not too long ago and are examples of solid organizations. It is relatively easy for me to attend the local games, but I will vomit blood before I support them over my hometown Bills and Sabres. When the Vince Lombardi (a NJ native) trophy and Stanley Cup (definitely not this year) are finally brought to Buffalo, the decades of pain will be worth it. In the meantime, we must relish the minor victories along the way, such as beating the Patriots in NE on MNF.

Let’s also hope that while there might not be "i" in t-e-a-m, there is one "TO" in every T-O-u-c-h-d-o-w-n, he scores!!!!

Someone better put this on a sign and bring it to every game…not only is it very clever, it’s true.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 24, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it was week 5, wouldn’t it still be Brady this and Brady that?

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 23, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that’s funny…it’s a good thing they’re not on the same team.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Mar 24, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

and ARod will be there too

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry guys looking for the original uniform...

We’re using the 1965 AFL Championship as our Legacy Uni. Sorry Kurupt.

NFL.com

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Understandable though to go with the Championship Unis

Good memories for many older Bills fans…

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 24, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

The ones I want to see are the old grey helmets and blue uniforms…. just one time :-)

I like the electric blues but to see the original ones one time would be nice.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 24, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen the original ones

even looked for them online, couldn’t find them.

Can anyone help me out?

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 24, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

For CanadianBills

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 24, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Now what’s a deffencive halfback?

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 25, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's what I found
The halfback in Canadian football, and most commonly the Canadian Football League, refers to the defensive back rather than the running back, as in American football. The defensive halfback lines up inside covering the slotback. They are usually slightly larger than the cornerback to assist the linebackers in stopping the run. They can also be seen backing off the line early, to counter the motion of a slotback, which is allowed before the snap in the CFL.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_halfback

So apparently it’s a big CB or a fast LB to cover the slot and help the run. Nickelback I guess? It doesn’t exist per se in the NFL anymore but does in the CFL.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 25, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow a CFL position that I don't know about

I new the slotback is a leading position in the CFL, think college spread TE, but closer in play o a WR. But never herd of a Defencive Halfback, maybe because the CFL has gotten used to running a 4-3-5 deffence (4 on the d-line, 3 LB’s, 2-4 CB’s and 1-3 Safeties depending on the amount of CB’s).

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 25, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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