Rumblings Scouting Report: Houston DE Phillip Hunt
As the 2009 NFL Draft approaches, the editorial staff at Buffalo Rumblings will begin profiling draft prospects that may end up being potential targets of the Buffalo Bills. Kurupt's back on the defensive side of the ball profiling Houston DE Phillip Hunt.
Clearly, one of the biggest needs identified by the Rumblings community and Bills fans in general is defensive end, and more specifically, a pass rushing threat. Today we will jump away from potential first round draft picks at the position and look at a potential mid-round selection: Phillip Hunt from the University of Houston.
Hunt has been an overlooked prospect by many as the Draft quickly nears, especially by the NFL Combine committee, which did not invite him to participate in last month's event. Don't blame a lack of talent or production; Hunt is a good player who really produced the past three seasons. But is he good enough to help our pass rush and develop into a quality NFL player?
To get a better handle on Phillip Hunt, we are joined this morning by Michael Murphy, who covers Houston Cougar Athletics for The Houston Chronicle. Please visit his UH Athletics blog for any past and present Cougar football information.
Phillip Hunt - Defensive End, Houston
6'1", 267 lbs., 4.65-second 40 yard dash (unofficial numbers)
Senior
34.5 career sacks, 53.5 tackles for loss
2008 Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year
Strengths
Powerful with a lower center of gravity... long arms... fluid athlete that moves well in and out of the line of scrimmage... good speed with a quick first step... has a ton of experience, having started 40 games the past three seasons... extremely productive... good motor and plays with a lot of effort... just keeps improving and getting better every year
Weaknesses
Relatively short for the position and somewhat slightly built... needs to add upper body strength and work in the weight room to be able to eventually grow into an every down player... not particularly strong at the point of contact and needs to work on his technique... a bit stiff and tight-hipped... there are some concerns about the level of competition he faced at Houston
What did Murphy have to say about Hunt's strengths and weakness?
BR: Not many folks in Buffalo are terribly familiar with Hunt's game. What do you view as his strengths and weaknesses?
MM: Hunt's greatest asset is his speed. He runs a legit 4.5 and has been working hard to get even faster. He has adequate strength, but probably needs more time in the weight room to prepare for the next level. I don't think getting bigger will help if it impacts his speed, but added strength is going to be a must.
BR: What part of his game might Hunt need to work on to be an effective NFL player?
MM: Probably fundamentals like footwork. He got by many times on pure speed and flat-out meanness, but when facing NFL-sized linemen, the fundamentals like footwork and such are going to be essential.
BR: Philip was obviously productive in college; do you attribute any of that production to the level of competition? Do you think that the competition will in any way hurt his reputation in scouts' eyes?
MM: Conference USA has produced recent talents like Donnie Avery, DeAngelo Williams, Matt Forte, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Roddy White, Quintin Demps, Kevin Kolb, Aundrae Allison, Chris Johnson, Jackie Battle, Rex Hadnot, Stanford Routt, Ahmad Bradshaw and Garrett Mills. So P-Hunt has been up against some good ones.
I think the biggest hurdle will be the perception that C-USA plays zero defense, so guys on that side of the ball will be devalued somewhat. But Hunt is a different breed of cat, so I think he'll be a surprise for the team that drafts him.
NFL Comparison: Darryl Tapp, Seattle; poor man's Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis, or Terrell Suggs, Baltimore.
Much, MUCH more after the jump, including exclusive information from Hunt's college defensive line coach, former Bills DE Jim Jeffcoat.
Seeing some tape on Hunt and reading about his strengths and weakness, I can't help but think of Darryl Tapp of the Seahawks. Coming out of Virginia Tech in 2006, Tapp was a shorter (6'1"), somewhat lighter (260 lbs), and productive defensive end that was known for a quick first step and being an extremely hard worker. The comparisons to other slightly undersized and more productive rush ends are also there:
BR: Hunt's measurables (height, weight, speed) are comparative to elite speed rushers such as Dwight Freeney, for example. Which current NFL player might you compare him to?
MM: I hate to make comparisons because what starts out as a quick reference soon becomes a straight-line comparison, which isn't fair to the player. While certainly not nearly as polished, perhaps guys with similar size/speed specs like Freeney or maybe a Terrell Suggs-type. But he has a way to go, so I hope people aren't expecting Freeney or Suggs. Not yet.
Other Interesting Tidbits
Besides all the strengths and weaknesses and comparisons, who exactly is Phillip Hunt? Let's find out a little more about the man behind the facemask:
BR: What is Phillip like in the locker room? How is his work ethic, his desire, his passion for the game, etc.? Have you spoken to him in the past, and what was your impression of him?
MM: P-Hunt was one of the most-popular players on the team, a guy who knew when to keep things loose and when to bear down and get everyone mean. He always came to play, too. I got to know him pretty well, not only because he was one of the best players on the team (and in the conference), but because he was accessible, too. I started doing video inteviews for my UH blog, and P-Hunt was always happy to give me a few minutes, and he always had fun with it.
Phillip was also recently interviewed by Patriots Daily (boo!), and had a lot to say about his preparation for the draft. Even though it's a Patriots site (grrr), do yourself a favor and check it out. Here are some of the Q&A's about how Hunt feels about himself:
PD: What do you think it’s going to take to convince scouts that you’re someone they should take a good look at?
PH: Well, my pro day is on the 27th of this month. So, I think (if) I put up good numbers at the pro day, some of the best in the nation, that will show that I’m athletic, or more athletic than guys in other conferences that are being ranked higher than me right now. I think my pro day will play a huge role at draft time.
PD: Do you have any specific area, any specific teams you’d like to go to?
PH: No. Whoever drafts me, I just want them to know I’m a hard worker, I’m determined, and I have a passion for the game. I just love playing the game. I just want to go anywhere I can make the team better.
Does he fit the Bill?
Once again, can he rush the passer? Yes. That's all I need to know. Beyond that, I really like what Hunt can offer, both in terms of potential on-field production, but also based on what it'd take to get him. He looks like a situational pass rusher and special teams player initially, but also looks like he has the ability to grow into an NFL starter with some strength work and continued good coaching. Right now, it looks like Hunt is a Round 4-6 prospect, but will likely move up with a strong performance at his Pro Day. If we can secure his services with a fourth round pick, as a second pass rush pick, I, for one, will be a happy Bills fan.
The other question that needs to be asked is whether or not Hunt is a good fit for the Tampa 2 scheme we still have in place. Here are a couple of opinions on that question:
BR: How do you think Hunt would fit into a Tampa 2 scheme at the NFL level? MM: Given his speed, I would say that he'd be a perfect fit. Absolutely perfect.
And from his defensive line coach at UH, former Bill Jim Jeffcoat:
Do you think Hunt would be a fit in a Cover 2 defensive scheme?
JJ: Oh most definitely. He would be a really good fit there, especially because he would be lined up wider. If he were to be in a more traditional 4-3, he might struggle some, because he would be lined up tighter inside, and his length and lack of bulk would hinder him some. But he'll keep working out, and he'll fill out some more.
Jeffcoat added his general opinions on his prize pupil as well:
Phillip is up to around 267 pounds now, and he has long arms. He has a really good motor too, and plays with a lot of effort. The thing with Phillip is that he runs really well; he's got good speed, and quickness too. He's a great teammate, and likes to play the game and likes to study it too. He's a playmaker, whether it be running after the ball or chasing the quarterback. And, because he runs so well, he'll be a force on special teams.
Other Scouting Reports and Rankings
New Era Scouting (#17 DE, fourth round projection)
CDS Draft (sixth round projection)
FFToolbox (Round 4-6 projection)
NFLDraftScout (#16 DE, sixth round projection)
Walter Football (#12, Round 3-4 projection)
Once again, I'd like to thank Michael Murphy for his insight on Phillip Hunt.
And stay tuned to Buffalo Rumblings for a very special guest this afternoon!
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Nice series
I don’t have much to add other than how great it is to read these.
Nice write up K
this player sounds like someone that needs to be investigated further. Interested to see his pro day numbers. even though he is short I think a short rush DE has advantages, especially one that has long arms. I think he’s big enough given he’s only 6’1". getting stronger is the priority at this point it sounds. you can’t argue with his production so he warrants consideration in the middle rounds.
Now I ask the question to K and everyone else...
If we go LB and OG in the first two rounds and take Hunt in the third, are we happy or sad? Then we take a TE in the fourth. We’ve addressed all of our needs in the first four rounds with guys that could contribute this year or in 2010. If they think Ellis will be a much bigger contributor this year, I would love to see this type of draft unfold. If they aren’t high on Ellis, they should address DE in the first.
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I was thinking the same thing, Matt.
He is projected to go in rounds 3-6 right now, so his Pro Day might determine if he needs to be taken in the 3rd. I wouldn’t mind taking Beckum in the 3rd and Hunt in the 4th.
Don’t sweat the petty things. Don’t pet the sweaty things.
I agree
I would be pretty happy if that scenario played out. I would be fine with a TE in Rd 3 and a DE in Rd 4 as long as we took a LB in Rd 1 that can rush the passer as well. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of taking Matthews or Cushing in Rd 1, preferably Matthews since he is the better pass-rusher. I like Maybin, but PSU has had a history of busts at DE, and while Maybin has almost an elite first-step, the flip-side for me is that if he ends up being a bust at DE I don’t see him as a better LB than Cushing or Matthews.
I think from a team perspective, there’s already a boat-load of money spent at the DE position with the big contracts to Schobel and Kelsay. How Kelsay remains on this team has baffled me. But, it looks like we’re stuck with him for now. I like the idea of getting a LB that can also rush the passer on passing downs in round 1 better than getting a DE who will only be a situational pass-rusher for us in the first year. That being said, a 3rd or 4th round DE can come in and handle the same situational pass-rusher duties that I think many of us expect out of Brown or Maybin if we pick them in rd 1.
Well Ellis was supposed to do that last year....
That being said, a 3rd or 4th round DE can come in and handle the same situational pass-rusher duties that I think many of us expect out of Brown or Maybin if we pick them in rd 1.
I am still hoping he will this year. Just throwing it out there as precedent.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 25, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
happy
if Matthews is our LB and Hunt tests out well at his pro day. I’m not expecting strong bench numbers given his long arms but want to see the 3 cone, short shuttle and 10-yard split times. He can get on a program and get strong relatively quickly but you can’t teach speed and quickness.
I’d be ok, I guess.
I view Hunt as more of a complementary addition, not one that should be our top DE addition. As I mentioned, I’d love it if he were our second pass rusher selected. But if the draft were to go as you said, I could be ok with it. This is assuming the LB we pick has pass rush ability too (like Matthews). No matter what, we need to get a future starter at DE, IMO. If Hunt is that guy, so be it.
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
So if you view Hunt as complementary, here’s what you have:
2009:
Schobel & Kelsay starting with Denney, Ellis, New guy #1 and Hunt
2010:
Schobel and Ellis, New guy #1 or Hunt with Kelsay maybe on the roster…
Without the new #1 guy I still think you are OK if the picks work out.
2009:
Schobel, Kelsay, Denney shuttling in and out on rushing downs with Ellis and Hunt providing pass rush on obvious passing downs
2010:
Shobel and Ellis/Hunt starting with Kelsay backing up (?) and Ellis/Hunt rotating in
I’d be OK with either scenario, like I said, if Ellis is going to step up and be a much bigger contributor. I’m not convinced of that yet.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 25, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Greta job, K.
It’s always nice to talk to members of the legitamate media. :-)
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First rate scouting K
I almost hope he tweeks a hammy and can’t run during his Pro Day. Selfish……yes, but I hope his stock doesn’t rise to quickly. If we see the early run on DEs that most of us expect, Hunt could be taken earlier than the 4-5th round range he probably should go in.
Don’t sweat the petty things. Don’t pet the sweaty things.
I’d be completely satisfied if he were our third-round pick.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 25, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
haha
As long as he doesn’t measure in at 5’11" 250 lbs, I could get behind him as a 3rd rounder. With a pretty deep DE class, he could still be a 4th rounder after a good Pro Day.
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
don't bet on it
if he has a good pro day workout this guy will shoot up draft boards. he’s the type of player that no teams want to talk about in fear that another team will choose him. I think from the bills 3rd round draft position it could be a bit of a reach but we’ll see.
by gatornation on Mar 25, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Workout numbers
I love this guy’s production. I have actually liked him for a while now. Something even more impressive about this guy is that he always got his TFL when everyone else on the D line sucked, and he did it for years. I would like to see a quick 10 yd dash and a good 3 cone drill before pull the trigger.
His pro-day is March 27th. 2 days…
How
could the Combines miss inviting the greatest D-lineman of this decade?
Thanks for the 411 K
Sounds intriguing, but I think there are other DEs out there that we should still look at. I like the back story and that he may be a middle round gem, but let us not stop thinking about other players at the position that can be had in the same or later rounds. BPA IMO in every round with a slight tilt towards position of need or improvement. Thanks for the report, I look forward to these every day.
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the report, I look forward to these every day.
Haha. That’s great to hear for us, but we unfortunately won’t be able to do one of these every day. We definitely have more coming for you over the next month, though. (Draft is exactly a month from today!)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 25, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well obviously there are still a ton of other DE’s to look at. Hunt is just one middle rounder that we should consider in order to improve our pass rush. Nobody is suggesting that we stop talking about all other potential DE’s. I’m not sure why you even think that!!!!
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
MTD just did scouting report on Hunt too, they consider him an OLB and say he is destined to slotted in the 5th, unless a Tampa 2 defense likes him…
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
WWWEEEEEIIIIRRRRDDDD
They need to GET OUT OF MY HEAD
~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"
Actually, I asked Dan to do it so I could link to it in this post. He happily obliged.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 26, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Sidbury?
Is he no longer on the radar?
by NorCal BillsFan on Mar 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
One at a time… :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions

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