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Ranking the NFL Draft's tight end prospects


TE Pettigrew the lone first-day prospect (buffalobills.com)

As the 2009 NFL Draft approaches, we here at Buffalo Rumblings will continue interviewing bloggers and consulting outside sources in putting together detailed scouting reports on some of the Draft's most noteworthy prospects - concentrating, of course, on prospects that could pique the interest of the Buffalo Bills.  This is the start of a new series in which I'll rank prospects at each position; ultimately, this project will roll itself into the "Buffalo Rumblings Big Board", which is exactly what it sounds like - the same type of big board NFL teams keep handy on draft day.

While speculation continues to run rampant as to the trade availability of OT Jason Peters, the potential of drafting a tackle in the first round, and the continued need for an infusion of talent in the pass rushing department, one position has steadfastly remained a need area throughout the entire off-season: tight end. What follows is a ranking of the draft's starting-caliber tight end prospects; this is the second post of this type, as earlier in March we ranked the outside linebackers as well.

FIRST ROUND PROSPECTS
1. Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State: Pettigrew is, by light-years, the most complete tight end prospect available this year, and perhaps in recent memory. Question his receiving numbers all you want, but the undeniable truth is that if the Bills are ever going to think that a tight end is perfect for their offense, this guy is it. He's ready to contribute to a winning organization right away, and he's still got solid upside as well.

THIRD ROUND PROSPECTS
2. Chase Coffman, Missouri: They say this year's tight end class is deep. I disagree. There are a lot of players available; very few of them fit what the Bills traditionally look for at the position. One one-dimensional guy with room to grow is Chase Coffman, owner of the best set of hands in the draft. His hands make him coveted; his size and blocking potential put him second on my list, but only as a third-round prospect.

3. Shawn Nelson, Southern Mississippi: Again, this is a prospect where "blocking" only comes with the word "potential" attached. Still, Nelson is a great receiving prospect, and unlike some other folks at the position, he actually tries to block. He's got the chops to eventually be a more well-rounded tight end than most of his peers here.

Seven more names for you after the jump.

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FOURTH ROUND PROSPECTS
4. Travis Beckum, Wisconsin:
He's small, athletic and yet another catching-before-blocking prospect, but at least he comes from a pro-style offense that focuses on running the ball.  That will help, as he comes with the right mentality.  Beckum is one of the better all-around athletes available this year, but he's got some injury concerns to deal with.

5. Jared Cook, South Carolina: Possibly the single best athlete available this year at any position, but he's highly unpolished - even as a receiver - and has serious questions surrounding his desire and work ethic.  Were he to be available in the fourth round, the team might have a hard time passing on his raw potential.  But the guy simply doesn't fit the Bills' profile, and is lacking in several key categories.

6. Cornelius Ingram, Florida: See Beckum, raise injury concerns, and subtract the pro-style offense bit.  Ingram isn't going to be a great fit in most NFL cities right out of the gate.  His potential, like many of the names on the list, is through the roof, but there's a rather large gap to cross between rookie and productive professional.

FIFTH ROUND PROSPECTS
7. Jared Bronson, Central Washington:
Underrated athletically, few talk about this guy because of the "big" names at the position.  He's got a higher ceiling than most as a blocker (his frame is better suited for it), but he's much more in the area of the rest of his peers.  Still, he seems like a smarter investment as a potential fifth-round pick as opposed to the fourth-round prospects listed above.

8. James Casey, Rice: Most see this guy as a tight end, but he's being looked at as a running back and a quarterback as well.  The guy has, quite literally, zero experience as a blocker.  I think he's one of the better receiving prospects in the entire draft, but he'll need more work than most before he's ready to contribute at the NFL level.

9. Anthony Hill, North Carolina State: He's the type of tight end that most Bills fans loathe - a good blocker that is severely untested as a receiver.  In short, he's a much better fit for the Bills than some of his big-name peers.  He's got solid potential as a receiver, but he'll never be a game-changing threat.

10. Dan Gronkowski, Maryland: Another block-first tight end with underrated athletic skills, Gronkowski is a name to keep an eye on.  I have him graded as a fifth-rounder, but he might be available lower.  If the Bills choose to put off tight end for the first four or five rounds, Gronkowski very well could be a Bill.

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This is just my opinion, folks.  These are the ten rookie tight ends I think the Bills could get away with plugging into the lineup in some capacity next season.  If you think I've made a grievous error in these rankings, let me know.  If you think I've got some sort of hidden agenda, I'd love to hear about it.  If you're itching to re-shuffle my rankings, let it rip.  Consider this an open forum on 2009 NFL Draft tight end prospects.  Go.

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So wouldn’t we be better off taking a guy like Anthony Hill in round 5? He’s got similar size, athleticism and under-utilized receiving skills (I suppose) as Pettigrew, but can be had 4 rounds later….

I think you are underrating some of these guys a bit. I bet Cook goes in round 2 or early round 3. Beckum and Ingram probably hit the 3rd. Nelson should be a 2nd rounder. Casey probably goes well before the 5th, I think his athleticism and receiving skills will far outweight his lack of blocking experience.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet Cook goes in round 2 or early round 3. Beckum and Ingram probably hit the 3rd. Nelson should be a 2nd rounder. Casey probably goes well before the 5th, I think his athleticism and receiving skills will far outweight his lack of blocking experience.

You may well be right on all counts. Doesn’t mean I have to like them going there. I wouldn’t take any tight end other than Pettigrew before Round 3.

So wouldn’t we be better off taking a guy like Anthony Hill in round 5? He’s got similar size, athleticism and under-utilized receiving skills (I suppose) as Pettigrew, but can be had 4 rounds later….

If you’re making that your opinion, that’s fine. If you’re asking me, well, I tried to make it overly apparent that I think Pettigrew is significantly better than every other tight end prospect this year, obviously including Hill. There may be logic to waiting and taking Hill – particularly if you’re looking to address a different position, which I’d understand and get behind – but that doesn’t mean that you can just substitute Hill’s name and say you come away even on the talent spectrum.

I’m not advocating taking Pettigrew. I really like him, and always have. But as I said, I can certainly see the logic to waiting on tight end.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may well be right on all counts. Doesn’t mean I have to like them going there. I wouldn’t take any tight end other than Pettigrew before Round 3.

Perhaps, but isn’t it a bit misleading to label Cook a fourth-round prospect? there is no way he goes that late.

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by poz on Mar 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not “labeling” him as anything other than having a fourth-round grade. From me.

Players go where they go. There’s a month until they go anywhere. Until then, Cook is a fourth-round prospect in my book.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

ok, I see now, this is your personal evaluation of where prospects should go, not where they will go.

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by poz on Mar 30, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what Brian is trying to say is

that they may be slated high than he has them, but if he was in charge of the Bills draft, he would not draft them until the round he has them slated in.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. This is me playing GM, essentially. You’re more than allowed to disagree with anything I have to say, but I’m not labeling these guys in any manner other than my own personal preference.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re more than allowed to disagree with anything I have to say,

As K normally does.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well what kind of blog would it be if everyone agreed. Things just wouldn’t be any fune, and we’d end up talking about Lost by the 7th comment of every thread… not that I’m against that mind you.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and isn’t it more fun that way?

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m a bit confused….

Is the list where you would draft a player or is it a list based on scouting reports you’ve compiled? If it’s the latter, I haven’t seen Cook, Casey or even Nelson that low. Ingram and Beckum might be a round later than most places too…

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the prior.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

I’d disagree on some, as I mentioned.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, yeah, that’s completely up to you. Not trying to change opinions here, just using my rankings as a launching point for further discussion.

For the record, when I did the linebackers, those were completely ranked in my order of preference as well.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gerald McCrath #5?!?!?! Yowsers. Why didn’t I notice that before?

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two words: Play. Maker.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three numbers: 2-2-4

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume that is his weight?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weight isn’t a huge issue for me as long as he can make plays. If we just want a fat linebacker, let’s draft Lee Robinson and pretend he can be a starter.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But would we really want another undersized LB?

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, I don’t care what size he is as long as he makes plays. I’d draft a 108-pound linebacker if he forced fumbles and picked off passes. We need that more than we need size.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d draft a 108-pound linebacker if he forced fumbles and picked off passes.

Would you be interested in my wife then? She weighs about that and hits surprisingly hard… don’t know about catching the ball though…. and she’d probably run away in terror from running backs, especially Bradsaw, that guy’s a BEAST.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She weighs about that and hits surprisingly hard

Are you speaking from experience here?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes actually :-)

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry to hear that….the hitting part that is

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well what I should have said is that she tackles suprisingly well. But it’s ok, I always have a bed to break my fall ;-)

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sure a family curling match didn’t get out of hand?

everything goes better with a BIG MACK

by keuka121 on Mar 30, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now!

… it was hockey, not curling.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously!!!!!
but that doesn’t mean that you can just substitute Hill’s name and say you come away even on the talent spectrum.

But throwing in the value of the two players based on where they’ll be selected, Hill could be a consideration. I completely understand and agree that he is behind Pettigrew in probably every major comparison, which is evident by his 5th round grade, but I’m just wondering (out loud) whether he’d be filling the same role at a much cheaper cost…..blocking TE, with good size and the ability to make some plays in the passing game….

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a fair thing to wonder. I wonder it myself. I’m a big fan of Hill’s; I think he’ll eventually be a starting tight end in the NFL.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we’re going for a good blocking TE, with some receiving skills (which I don’t agree, but understand), I would be much more inclined to get that guy in round 4 or 5 than at #11. I think MANY would agree on that.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure they would. And I will happily disagree with every one of them. If I have “a boy”, Pettigrew’s my boy.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it’s worth, Chris Brown recently wrote in his blog that Jared Cook and Shawn Nelson would both likely go in the late first round or early second round before the Bills’ second round pick. That seems a little early to me; I would say they are both likely second-rounders. Most mock drafts have Beckum, Casey, Coffmann, etc. all going in the vicinity of the third round. Based on that “consensus” of the “experts” I would say the Bills need to use a second or third round pick if they want to get a highly talented TE this year.

Also for whatever it’s worth, Mark Gaughn of the Buff News commented on his live chat last week that the team has its eye on Casey. That would certainly be trying something different.

by Macktruck on Mar 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pettigrew

Pettigrew is arguably the best tight end to come out in the last 5 years (or half a decade as Geronimo indicated). I would take Pettigrew over Dustin Keller (2008), Greg Olsen (2007), or Vernon Davis (2006). Pettigrew is comparable to or could be better than Heath Miller (2005). However, when it’s all said and done, I’m not sure if Pettigrew will turn out to be a better pro than Kellen Winslow (2004). I don’t think that Pettigrew is a special player or a rare talent, but he’s pretty darn good.

I love Pettigrew’s physique, physical makeup, and style of play. He’s well built with a V-shaped frame, he has long arms (extends and locks out when he blocks and catches), and moves well for his size (although he’s obviously not a burner running in a straight line in shorts). He’s tough and he plays fast. When blocking, he’ll sometimes get two for the price of one, knock one guy on his rear and then go get another guy. I’ve got most of the Insight Bowl (Oklahoma State versus Indiana – James Hardy’s last and terrible game by the way). Pettigrew is athletic for his size. He used a spin move and made Tracey Porter (Indiana cornerback, high draft pick) miss in space. If I have the time, I can write up a scouting report on Pettigrew if anyone is interested.

The other thing that I like about Pettigrew is that his talent allows for scheme versatility and playcalling flexibility. You don’t have to use special formations or run only specific plays just because Pettigrew is in the game. Unlike a lot of these tight ends that are essentially souped-up wide receivers, you aren’t going to tip run or pass with Pettigrew in the lineup.

With that said, Pettigrew is certainly not a once-in-a-lifetime player that the Bills have to have. He’s good, but clearly not that good. I think we would all prefer trading down and selecting Pettigrew later in the first round.

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’ve got most of the Insight Bowl (Oklahoma State versus Indiana – James Hardy’s last and terrible game by the way)

Can I ask why you have a copy of that game? Haha

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Short Story

I actually recorded the game last year to evaluate Aldarius Bowman and James Hardy. I get to evaluate two NFL players in one college game; two for the price of one, right? Remember Bowman, the allegedly “hot” WR prospect around December 2007/January 2008? And we all wanted a the big WR to play opposite Evans, right?

Ironically, while watching the game I thought that Bowman’s teammate, Dez Bryant was actually a better pro prospect than Bowman.

We all know the Bills needed a tight end last year, too. And Pettigrew was pretty good this game and so I decided to keep it for more/future evaluation. By the way, Mike Mayock and Sterling Sharpe were calling the game, and they were drooling over Pettigrew.

A lot of good NFL prospects are in this game, so it was time and recording space well spent :)

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dez Bryant will come out early next year and be a top 5 pick.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seen tape of him, reminds me A LOT of Fitzgerald when he was in college.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I was watching the game live last year to get a look at Bowman...

his teammate wearing jersey #1 actually looks better! Who is this guy? Better watch out next year! Keep this game tape! Evidently, my eyes did not decieve me.

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is pretty much exactly where I stand on Pettigrew. Very well put. Rec’d.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Brian!

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure if Pettigrew will turn out to be a better pro than Kellen Winslow (2004).

Your right, he probably wont be as good a talent as Winslow, but ods are he’ll have a lot less injuries and wont have nearly as many off feild issues.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and better hands than Winslow

most players do

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every player has a drop once in a while.

I think that is literally true about Winslow. Winslow has one of the best pair of hands I have ever seen.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well every time I’ve watched the Browns play, Winslow seems to drop a pass or two. Might be concentration more than anything though.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen Winslow play many times

but there is one game that stands out. I have the 2003 Fiesta Bowl (Ohio State vs. Miami) game tape. Routine catches, circus catches, clutch catches, you name it. Ridiculous hands. Just about every game I’ve seen since then, Winslow seems to confirm it.

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha, talk about differing opinions. You may be right. I just can’t get the times I’ve watched him out of my head. It might also have to do with him and his big mouth.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Don’t let The Soldier, the motorcycle, the staph infection, etc. cloud your judgment!

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by Fort Worth on Mar 30, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every player has a drop once in a while.

That’s what she said.

by syrbillsfan on Mar 30, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TEs

I agree that Pettigrew is the best tight end for Buffalo’s way of doing things, and would certainly advocate his selection at #11 over Maybin, whom many seem to like there. In regard to Jared Cook, perhaps he is not the best fit for Buffalo, but then again, since we have missed the playoffs for almost the entire past decade, maybe it is time to try something that “doesn’t fit”! Just a thought.

by dukedoc76 on Mar 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

would certainly advocate his selection at #11 over Maybin, whom many seem to like there

To be totally honest I love Maybin, but I’m starting to warm up on Pettigrew. As it stand this is what my board looks like:

1. Everette Brown
2. Flip a coin between Maybin and Pettigrew. I think both would bring as much to this team right now.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin – 0-25% of snaps on defense
Pettigrew – 75-90% of snaps on offense (Depends on how many times we run 4-5WRs with or without RB)

Which one do you think brings more to the team?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which one brings a bigger impact in a year or two as well?

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point

I’m well aware that Maybin would only play about 25% of the snaps in his first season, but he WIll be a star in this league. While Pettigrew would have a bigger immidiate impact, I’m honestly not sure if he’ll be as big a star as Maybin will. Thats why its pretty much a coin toss for me at this point, goes down to whether you want imidiate impact or long term sucess.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You put Gronkowski and Hill on the list but not Devon Drew? I get why you don’t get behind Bear Pascoe, but Drew is a terrific blocker and probably a better pass catcher then both Hills and Gronkowski.

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by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Drew. Maybe I should have put him on the list; he’s actually 11 by my book. I like both Gronkowski and Hill more, because I think there’s more upside there. Drew did have a pretty stellar senior season, though.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gronkowski has that type of name befitting a Bills TE.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 30, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The stats too...

blahhhhh. But he’s a local boy so he’ll be here.

by twoeightnine on Mar 30, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s okay. These guys can keep the slot warm for Gresham in ’10.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, regarding Coffman, why is he the one one-dimensional guy that you like so much? To me, he’s a very thin, only semi-athletic player that has never been asked to block. I’m not sure how easily he’ll transition to a hand in the ground TE. Certainly, I wouldn’t put him higher than any of the others.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His hands set him apart. Seriously – best hands in the draft, any position. That puts him way ahead of the rest of the one-dimensional threats. He also has potential as a blocker. (I’m really tired of that word.)

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also has potential as a blocker. (I’m really tired of that word.)

Come on Bri, don’t all of these guys have the p-word as a blocker? I simply can’t put Coffman ahead of others in that regard. If he does have the best hands in the draft, which I can’t agree or disagree with, then I can see your point. Doesn’t Casey and Beckum have excellent hands too?

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey’s hands are OK; helps that he played baseball. Beckum’s are solid, but seriously – Coffman’s hands put theirs to shame.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Beckum's old position.

The dude played linebacker! He loves the contact. He knows how to get through the traffic in there.

Coffman’s hands are by far the best.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 30, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate

associating rounds with players. Makes no sense to me. A guy has value or doesn’t to your team. Pettigrew clearly has blue-chip value to the Bills. He would change our offense. The addition of Pettigrew with T.O. solidify the weaponry for this offense, and make us a real threat to score in multiple ways in the red zone….the most important element in the NFL, IMO.

Nelson ranks 2nd in my book, cuz he IS a capable blocker. He showed that at the Senior Bowl. The rest of the guys like beckum, cook, ingram and casey have severe deficiences as blockers and I don’t see them touching them with a ten foot pole

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by MARVelous on Mar 30, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You assign rounds to gauge where you’d consider taking the player, and nothing more. Again, I’m not saying “Jared Cook is a fourth-round prospect”, because at this point in the game, it’s incredibly absurd to say something like that. I’m saying I don’t see the Bills considering picking Cook until the fourth round.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i gotcha

I think everyone thinks this TE class is so deep, because it has so many productive pass catchers. However, that doesn’t translate to NFL greatness. You have to have the strength and ABILITY to block to produce at the NFL level. It’s what I call “body control.” The best TE’s, I guarantee you are also the best basketball players. You have to have great strength in your lower body, agility, flexibility. Ability to be up in the air, yet keep balance. Ability to cut, run routes, get off the line of scrimmage, etc. That’s why a guy John Carlson did so freakn well as a rookie. He didn’t get pushed around for lack of a better analagoy. He is so strong and has such great body balance that he can get off the line, run his route and catch the ball with guys draped all over him. Pettigrew has the physical tool set to become an ELITE NFL TE. Speed is not what you need in a TE. Sure, on a fly or post patter it helps, but you win your route in the first 5 yards, not in the last 5.

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by MARVelous on Mar 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good points

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why I want Syracuse SF Paul Harris to pull a Gates and go pro in the NFL. He’d be a real solid TE prospect…

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

Harris has enough trouble avoiding mistakes in his chosen sport. I can’t imagine him trying to play football. He struggles enough holding on to a basketball, I can’t imagine how much the oblate spheroid would befuddle him.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oblate spheroid

Very nice!

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could go with Hey Arnold’s head too.

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stewie griffin has a simolarly shaped head.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found this one pretty funny.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL!!!!

Leave it to you to combine Miley Cirus with Family Guy. Funniest thing I’ve seen in a very long time!

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was watching some of the clips linked to the one you posted and found that one.

Had to post it.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call, it’s HILARIOUS!

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s another good one: Top 10 Family Guy Moments

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s why

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by Kurupt on Mar 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geek alert

A football is a prolate speheroid. The earth is an oblate spheroid.

A la WikiAnswers:

What shape is a footbal?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 30, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That about sums it up, eh?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 30, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren’t we all nerds?

by krytime on Mar 30, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quiet, or I’ll throw my enciclopedia at you

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But there would be no Tin to screw him up out on the football field

Unless he for some reason tries to spike the ball over the goal post while heading into the end zone after a catch….

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 31, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it wrong that Pettigrew is starting to grow on me as the 11th pick?

I mean ideally we would trade down to get him, but if we can’t find a favorable trade partner, I’m starting to like the idea of drafting him… but only if Everette Brown is already gone at 11.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 30, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m still liking Pettigrew in round one followed by Connor Barwin in round 2.
 Trading down for Pettigrew would be nice, but not an absolute necessity.
 Both players would see lots of immediate impact playing time.

by dzil on Mar 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckum's only injury concern was getting rolled up on...

while he was blcoking ironically, and breaking his leg. He’s a third round prospect for me.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 30, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I stopped reading when I saw cook and beckum as 4th rounders.

last year before he broke his leg he was the no1 TE prospect, including Gresham.

by BuffaloChip on Mar 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And now he’s not. Last year was last year, man; things are, in fact, allowed to change.

Again (and maybe you missed it, since you didn’t read the whole thing), I’m not saying “Beckum and Cook will be drafted in the fourth round”. I’m saying that if I’m running Buffalo’s draft, I’m not considering them until the fourth round. Big difference.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 30, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darkhorse is Hill

Anthony Hill at NC-State has had injury problems pretty much his whole college career. But, when healthy he is a pretty good tight end. Very good blocker and can catch it as well.

Jared Cook had a good combine and has moved up the charts.

Beckum, Coffman, Nelson, and Ingram I see going in rounds 3-4 as well.

As for the comment, what the Bills traditionally look for at the position – You mean like Derek Fine, Derek Schoumann, etc., and all of the other busts they have had. Maybe the Bills should change their philosophy. In fact, have the Bills ever had a good tight end? Definitely not a Pro Bowler.

by BuffaloWhiner on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm really liking J'Nathan Bullock more and more

now that I read he’s graduating with a degree in Chemical Engineering, this kid is no slouch of a person. I would bet that even though he hasn’t played college football, his hoops skills and book smarts may very well make him a great TE prospect to draft. We all know how much Jauron loves intelligence in a player. Perhaps that means this kid will get a call.

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http://www.cleveland.com/csu/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/123874763333620.xml&coll=2

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