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The Sky Isn't Falling

Reading some of the reaction to the news that Laveranues Coles has signed in Cincinnati, I sensed a wave of near panic among the masses. Some are making it sound as though the 2009 season is already doomed and that the Bills can do nothing to recover from the devastating blow... of missing out on a possession receiver on the wrong side of 30. Come on, guys! WR wasn't even identified as one of Buffalo's big off-season needs.

I was hoping for the Coles signing because he'd be a good #2 receiver, bumping Josh Reed to the slot while allowing James Hardy time to recover/develop. Some are now suggesting that the Bills chase Amani Toomer, Marvin Harrison or some other WR as a consolation prize. Buffalo already has a consolation prize - the league's leading punt returner. Roscoe Parrish would have been cut or traded (some have questioned his trade value) had Coles been signed. Now Buffalo will keep Parrish and I, for one, would rather have Parrish than an over the hill free agent WR. I've been a frequent and sometimes caustic critic of OBD, but I have to give them credit for not going overboard for Coles.

Some people were hoping for the Bills to sign Jason Brown or Matt Birk, the consensus top centers in free agency. Brown wanted a pile of money (the Rams obliged), far more than the Bills wanted to commit to the center position. I preferred a young guy (preferably a high round draftee) to Birk and so did OBD - though their young guy (Geoff Hangartner) was a free agent pick up. I don't blame OBD at all for not chasing Brown and/or Birk... and no one, and I mean absolutely no one, has been banging the "Buffalo Needs A Real Center" drum longer or louder than I have.

Some people, myself included, were hoping that the Bills would take care of the DE position by luring Terrell Suggs or Julius Peppers to Buffalo. That obviously didn't happen. Since both guys were given the franchise tag there was just no way Buffalo could have gotten either one - even if the money side worked out. Beyond those two studs, there really weren't any DE options worth pursuing in free agency. It's terribly unfortunate that the DE market was so thin this free agency period as I fear that Buffalo won't be able to get a top tier DE at #11. The pass rush will continue to suck. While OBD could have addressed it last year or the year before (instead of giving Chris Kelsay and Aaron Schobel ridiculous deals), there's nothing to be done about it this off-season.

There's something else to consider. The Bills reportedly offered Coles $6 million per year at the same time the team was offering Jabari Greer $5 million per year AND talking to Jason Peters about an extension. So far, about $3 million of that $11 million has been given to Drayton Florence. That leaves Buffalo with about $8 million with which to sign a few second (or third) tier free agents and work on extending a guy like Terrence McGee for a couple of years... or Ashton Youboty if OBD thinks McGee will be on the decline after the 2009 season... or Trent Edwards if the team believes he's the long term answer and wants to sign him at an affordable rate... or Fred Jackson to keep him from getting a whiff of free agency in 2010.

Missing out on Coles and company doesn't mean the sky is falling. Buffalo still has a chance to continue to improve the roster this off-season (mainly via the draft) and possibly keep a core of good players around for a longer stretch of time.

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The 2009 season was already doomed before the end of calendar year 2008..

with the retention of Richard Jauron as head coach………

So no the sky isnt falling………

Its already laying on top of us

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's another topic entirely!

I’m just talking about players here, not the coaching staff.

by Ron From NM on Mar 4, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh........

my bad…..

y0

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

to expand on that.......

to me it doesnt really matter what players we get/dont get…….because to me, the coaching staff IS the problem….and thus until thats fixed I dont think any particular player is gonna change things for the worse or better

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What if I told you the BIlls would run the ball on 60% of the plays next year

Would you be happy about that? Would that improve your opinion on the coaching?

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It doesnt matter to me how they move the ball.....

as long as they find a way to move it.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, because to counter balance that, they would line up in shotgun 40% of the time.

by thatguy34 on Mar 4, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

How would telling us that they will run the ball 60% of the time do anything to improve?

They have to prove it on the field and we heard a lot of hot air out of Turk last offseason.

Plus, there’s A LOT more wrong with this coaching staff than not running it enough when they should.

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow that really pessemistic

sorry to say this, but for all DJ’s faults, and for all OBD’s faults, I think retaining DJ for ONE LAST YEAR was a good move. No the team has not improved, but it hasn’t gotten any worst either. and with all the young guys on the team that are finally starting to get used and to strive under DJ’s system (although it does have quite a few flaws) is it really the time to clean house?

Last year the team got better in almost every major stats catigory, and to me that speaks to the fact that the players are believing in their coach and his system. To me fireing DJ would have also cost us the 2009 season.

And for once that OBD is actually doing all the right things this off season (and yes i think not overpaying for COles was the right thing, even though I’m increadibly disapointed we didn’t get him), I think they’re finally working on giving DJ and the rest of the team the tools it needs to be competitive, and dare I say, succeed?

I say we give DJ this on last season and not call it quis on 2009 just yet…. although I might just jump on the Fire DJ bandwagon if we have another losing season.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches used to get five years to build their team... just sayin

of course that was pre-free agency.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 4, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well DJ's been here for 3

I just want to see what he can do with a team he help build. remember ppl, he was in rebuild mode his first two season, this was the first season where the team he had was the team he wanted.

plus the fact that we’ve had 3 different Offencive coordinaters in 3 seasons doesn’t help. Now we finaly kept the same one (for better or for worst) so lets see if he can adjust the offence to what it should be doing, cause we have all the makings of a power running team.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only statistic that matters in the NFL is wins......

and I wanted to give DJ a shot…….but considering he hasnt improve in that category at all in 3 years (especially considering last years schedule) why should I think anything will be different this fall……

So….thats why Im not overly optimistic.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but being optimistic is more fun....

we have dance parties on the SS Optimist. And we throw stuff at the SS PEssimist

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but we do a lot more drinkin on the SS Pessimist.

by thatguy34 on Mar 4, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If the SS Pessimist wants to have a drinking contest with the SS Optimist, bet on the old SSO – I’m on that boat.

by krytime on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Better watch it pal, I was a champ in my time at college

I think I still got some of that left in me, of course it helped to develop my alcohol issues by living with an Australian for a couple of years!

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 3:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As skipper of the SS Pessimist....

….I tossed over all of the chemical depressants (i.e. alcohol) some time ago. I kind of figured it was bleak enough already.

by Ron From NM on Mar 5, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah but what’s the point of bringing a ship into international waters if your not going to bring along any acohol… and other less legal depressants

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah forget about it… i’ll just send Marshawn to your boat… he’ll provid the contraband i’m sure

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Untrue!!!!

just more sad drinking….

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Richard Jauron makes it sound like they got a new coach.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 4, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he really deserves to be called Dick.

by thatguy34 on Mar 4, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

norcali – coaches can change, they can learn – their here – lets stop with the bashing of the coahces until at least the middle of next season.

if they haven’t learned or grown – then we can bash them. But the offseason is for fixing what you did wrong and learning. Let’s at least give them a chance for one last season.

if at first you don’t succeed – try try again

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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How long do I have to give them to succeed?

If I was at my job 3 years (lets say as a salesman) and my boss saw that I mediocre sales compared to my peers……..what reason would he have for keeping me?

Other than the fact that I am consistantly mediocre…….

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well with everthing being equal then yes. however, this is not equal – you can’t compare the Bills to a regular job. If your a sales man and your selling TV’s do you have to worry about the TV not turning on because it got broken(injured)? Do you have a salary cap that prevents you from buying the best TV or is it just given to you to sell? Plus they only have 16 weeks a year while you would have the 3 full years, if your going by a regular job then they haven’t even been doing their thing a full year yet (obviously discluding FA/Draft – which are crap shoots some times) as far as playing the games.

things take time in the NFL – you need 2 things. defense and a QB – I don’t care who coaches our team if our QB sucks. Look at Minn – they have a great D, great running back, but no QB. Everything hinges on that position more or less.

Tom Caughlin changed, why can’t DJ and co.? i’m not giving them a free pass – but I also recognize that it could take longer than 3 years to get the job done. I’m willing to give them 2 more years if it means playoffs and an AFC championship game. I’ve seen it blown up before and i’m willing to ride this wave a little longer. its not like their terrible – if they go backwards next year then yes.

Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?

by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That, my good sir, was a fresh of breath air. Agree on every count.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess Cleveland is about to experience a fresh of breath air.

by thefourwinds on Mar 4, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha that they are!

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 6:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to have you here Ron.

Preach it brother!

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 4, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and I am still OK with them bringing in Toomer on a one year deal...

although they think Hardy will be ready, I am more pessimistic……. me? Can you believe it?

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even if they think he will be ready, i think they should bring a veteran who can help Hardy and Johnson to develop, and would take a lot of pressure from them.

by hightower_mc on Mar 4, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They technically do have 3 of them on the team already,

ones who have been with the organization even. Sure they haven’t been around as long as Toomer but they know this organization, fanbase and Buffalo better than any FA ever will.

by twoeightnine on Mar 4, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bengals?

Man are they going to suck. Their trolling around for geezer receivers when their defense couldn’t shut out Cornell! (Or SU)

What a train wrreck!

by syrbillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man are they going to suck. Their trolling around for geezer receivers when their defense couldn’t shut out Cornell! (Or SU)

Why does that sound so unfamiliar to you?

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who signed with the Bengals?

Toomer? I can’t find that anywhere.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

think he was talking about Coles

yeah i was wondering for a second there too

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He must have been.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s not pessimistic, that’s realistic. You can’t expect Hardy to contribute much when he misses most of the summer.

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

very good post Ron

It’s not time to stop and cry, it’s time to move on and try to find other ways to make this team stronger.
I really like the idea of bring Toomer. He was my number one veteran WR before the FA.]
Well, that’s it. It IS NOT the end of the world as we know, and we’ll be fine. :)

by hightower_mc on Mar 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the sky isn't falling...

yet. I’m not really panicing and I expect the Bills to continue to make moves. I like that the Bills felt the need to get another offensive playmaker, and I hope they don’t give up on that now that Coles left the picture. I’m glad we didn’t pay him that much because we wouldn’t have gotten production to be worth anywhere near that value. We still have a ton of needs to fill because as of right now, this team is not a good football team. There are still options available in the trade market and 2nd tier free agents and I expect the Bills to fill a majority of the needs before the Draft. However, they can’t afford to be complacent, and I don’t expect them too.

Don't forget to pay the troll toll...

by evdawg419 on Mar 4, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thank You

Well said, the over reaction to the non signing of Coles is a little scary. We are paying our #1 WR $9 mil, to pay a #2 $7 would be a little too much. You also have to set your limit and not get in a bidding war.

by billsfan69 on Mar 4, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Especially when those WRs are NOT named Fitzgerald and Boldin

If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.

by WABillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, Ron’s talking us off a ledge? Did I miss something, or are we that pessimistic around here?

That attempt at humor out of the way- it’s a long offseason, and there’s still the draft. I still have faith…because, let’s face it, if you’re a Bills fan without faith, you most likely need medication or counseling. Well, more than the rest of us.

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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 4, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post Ron

this isn’t the end of the world, yes it’s dispointing, but not the end of the world. and we can us that money to fill more holes. we’ll have a good team this year, just watch.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WELL I TOLD YOU SO IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT

THE fact that the BILLS .. Did not sign COLES is nothing to worry about YOU BILLS fans know THAT IT WAS ALONG SHOT . Y es my dear love, BILLS fans. ………. did YOU think that a guy like that was going to stay in buffalo for what they offer NOOOOOO. HE stop by to see what we had to offer, He new exactly what we were going to offer but by stoping by. HE LOOK ( COLES ) THAT he was very marketing him self before other teams came knocking down the door….. KNOCK KNOCK,,,,,, AND THE BILLS went and open the door and then PUFFFF just like that he was gone,,,, again HEAR we go with the crapi stuff we want to hear from our team ,,, WE are going to plan B COME on dont try to play your FANS LIKE THAT . Buffalo ////// TELL them we LET Coles come in for VISIT just so it can look like we are doing someting to improve OUR team the TEAM THAT US THE BILLS FANS ( LOVE WITH ALL THE PASSION OF OUR SOUL) COME ON NOW FOE THE NEXT couple of weeks you are going to tell me that we are working VERY HARD to get PLAYERS THAT FIT OUR SISTEM <<<<<<<<< what sistem is that>>>>> COME ON for once WE whant to see a realy extreamly GREAT PLAYER come and never look else where…… BUT noooo we try to play hard and comes back to bite you in your <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< you fill the blank>>>>>… IM NOT been NEGATIVE just what to WINNNNN BABY WINNNNN

by abayarde on Mar 4, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Quick piece of advice abayarde...

This is a platform unlike many out there. Do us a little favor, and use a little “spell check.” I’m not askin’ to go all high brow now. But, if we all could have an easier read on some of your words, you might find that you’ll get a better response from some, and that might add to your enjoyment here.

by krytime on Mar 5, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of spellcheck...

Did you switch over to firefox kry?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 5, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

PUFFFF just like that he was gone,,,,

Coles is Keyser Soze

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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lets be realistic

We had too many holes to fill and there wasn’t enough talent out there in free agency. I would prefer NOT to sign guys like June, Peterson, etc. that are past their prime and not a significant upgrade over guys like Ellison. Use that money to extend other key players. But we HAVE to make a deal for a left guard before the draft. We absolutely can’t go into the draft with huge needs at LG, SLB, TE and DE. I think we can get impact players in the first three rounds at LB, DE and TE because there are so many good TE’s this year. But we NEED to fill that LG spot with a SOLID veteran prior to the draft. If we do that, then I will step off the ledge.

by CBATL32 on Mar 4, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

pass rush

A healthy Aaron Schobel will help the pass rush. Couldn’t hurt to throw a few blitz’s in either….Bet some blitz’s would help…oh I don’t know…Donte Whitner!

Why not Bobby April?

by nickdaniels on Mar 4, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Schobel was healthy in 2007 and the early part of 2008. There was nothing there. What reason is there to believe he’ll be a major presence in our pass rush again???? We all hope for it, but is it likely?

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sidbury, Sidbury, Siiiiiiddddddbbbbuuuurrrrrryyyyy

There, got the out the way, anytime you bring up pass rush from now on K, I’m saying that…. Love ya big guy!

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by WABillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Sidbury

I just hope he’s not the first pass rusher we end up bringing in….Waiting until the middle rounds is not a prudent way to solve our ills!

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bertrand Berry

Might be a similar case to Schobel. That wouldn’t be so bad if he could bounce back like that.

by syrbillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we can’t get a DE at #11 then we need to get a LB. I HOPE they don’t go with Pettigrew. Another year with Trent and Turk SHOULD be better. Has Crowell signed with anyone yet?

by copperbillzfn on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OBD doesn't want Crowell

But the Bucs are very interested in him.

It looks like we’re either getting Cate June or, preferably, Mike Peterson.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I

don’t think anyone should be feeling “doomed.” Like Brian stated and I think Geronimo touched on the fact when Coles became a FA it was a pleasant surprise. The Bills adapted to the fact that he was available and wined him and dined him. They however, must have money that is already accounted for to spend in other areas so alhough they wanted Coles, they weren’t going to break the bank and then burn themselves on other potential players. So I ain’t worried. Am I pissed? Yeah, a little. Mostly cuz I know how bad this Buffalo offense is, and as of now it is not better at all personnel wise. Of course if Edwards and guys like Hardy, Johnson, Fine, and newly acquire Hangartner become better than who knows. I am hopeful Buffalo still has mechanisms to acquire impactful playmakers on offense and defense that will not rely on 21-22 year old rookies. Let’s hope

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Mar 4, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well done and rec'd, but where were you
I, for one, would rather have Parrish than an over the hill free agent WR.

when I was asking why everyone wanted to trade Parrish so badly? Better late to the party than never I guess:-)

The sky is not falling because we missed on Coles and he is not the straw that broke the buffalo’s back. The Bills problems go much deeper. Geronimo touched on them in his last post, and Brian has also given us the only viable answer to the Bills talent problem. The superstars and tier 1 F/As are not coming to Buffalo. Hell, we can barely get the 2nd-3rd tier guys to sign here. DRAFT WELL OR WE ARE SCREWED!!!!!!

Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do
when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you are saying, but doesn’t it seem like year after year we get outbid? It’s not like we hear about us offering more money and a FA decides to go to another team for less money. It seems we are just a year late in believing the market has gone up that much each year and don’t seem to offer the right amount of money to bring guys to the team.

by Buffalonian on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree completely Ron, but good effort

Unfortunately I find myself more and more on the pessimistic side of this issue, but I applaud your effort to clear the clouds. You will have to write a few more articles before I change my mind. Tell me how all of the talent on this team is ripe ot explode.

I don’t see Coles as our answer, but rather getting no 1st tier FA’s as an affirmation that everything has stayed the same. In Buffalo the $$ the priority, not the talent. I think norcaliangelsfan is right when he said the sky has already fallen.

Is there a record for consecutive 7-9 seasons?

by south123 on Mar 4, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm still quite the pessimist

It’s just that Coles signing with the Bengals really doesn’t make things all that much worse.

by Ron From NM on Mar 5, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

see thats where I disagree south – what 1st tier FA’s did really want?

i’d say pretty much all of the 1st tier FA’s were signed by saturday – not yesterday such as coles.

you build winning teams through the draft and maybe try to plug only 1 or 2 holes via FA and then can add depth in FA.

We did plug a hole already in FA – so whats wrong with that? We’re not paying ginormous to players and then not having the ability to plug other holes. This is a team game – one guy doesn’t make a difference unless its the QB, as a result, you must build a team. I think their going about it the right way and their drafting will reflect that i’m sure.

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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, J2, there may not have been a lot of great FA talent out there, but that tells me that the holes on the team are going to remain. I give the front office credit, I think they are going about things the only way they can. I didn’t read Geronimo’s post on the previous thread last night until after I had made this post. It put it all in perspective. The team is kind of hamstrung with finances and has to be very shrewd and build very carefully.

But its very frustrating to see that the team has to build through the draft, because that is a long process. I would love to see that the team somehow managed to plug three or four holes, or hired some out-of-sight coordinator. And I think three years of drafts have shown we draft good players, some great, but overall I think that the talent level is rising very slowly using this process. I don’t know if its a scouting thing, a coaching thing, or just bad luck, but getting this team over the hump is not going to be accomplished at this pace for a couple years. And it boggles my mind that 3 teams that draft lower than us last year, Miami, NYJ and the Falcons all managed to improve drastically last season, in only one season, and I don’t think it was just their drafts that did it.

ah well, we can always hope.

by south123 on Mar 5, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't...
Miami, NYJ and the Falcons all managed to improve drastically last season, in only one season, and I don’t think it was just their drafts that did it.

Miami and New York spent a whole lot of money in free agency. And I wouldn’t use the Jets cause they were at home when the playoffs started just like us. Atlanta got lucky with Matt Ryan but Michael Turner was a free agent. He drove their offense.

To counter your argument, look at the Steelers who won the Super Bowl. All of their talent was drafted. It takes a while but back in the days before free agency, coaches generally got five years to succeed. Without free agency that’s how long it took to overhaul your roster with “your guys”. I think this is by far the best free agency year we’ve had. Maybe not exciting but they are making the right moves and being judicious. We will find a couple starters and a bunch of role players then draft some playmakers. Give it a little more time. It’s been 6 days and 20 hours since free agency opened. There is a long time until the draft.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

your right south – it does take a while to build a team via the draft – that’s what we have to do and thats how their doing it.

obviously the money issues – but DJ was handicapped by Donadope and Mularkey drafts and pickups so they were trying to clean that mess up and at the same time build a winner.

it’s going to probably take at least another offseason unfortunately – but we’re getting to see these guys grow and become something – if they become legitimate contenders for years to come we can all sit back and say we watched them build this team and we knew the holes they had to fill and most likely how they were to fill them. thats the best thing about this site – no stone goes unturned.

but its going to take a while – and in a “instant gratificiation” kind of world – we just have to learn to be a little more patient (and i’m easily the most impatient person i’ve ever met in my life – but at 29 – i’m slowing down a bit)

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by J2 on Mar 6, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its a business

The responsible thing is putting the money first, as long as you still sell tickets and merchandise. The bills still manage to sell season tickets and sell out their stadium, fair weather or foul. As long as that is the case, there is no reason to change the status quo. Simple economics. The Bills are actually doing right by themselves with the FA’s they’ve brought in so far. Not signing Coles gives them more wiggle room with Peters, and anyone else they want to extend. Just because we’re $30 mil under the cap or whatever doesn’t mean the Bills have anywhere near that amount of cash on hand to pay bonuses and whatever.

The same thing goes for all the rust belt teams, us fans are so crazy that regardless of the product we buy tickets and merchandise. That gives the owners no impetus for change. Cleveland and Cincinnati,, even the Bills have been mediocre to terrible in more seasons than not in their history, but we all still go. I think we would like Bills football to be about the winning, but the bottom line is its about the fanship and comraderie. Where would we be if there was nothing to complain about?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to change the subject, but to change the subject

does anyone else think there is something else going on besides wanting a viable 3rd RB as the reason so many RB’s are being brought in? I have a strange feeling they are looking to move Lynch. It just seems to me that the type of names they are bringing in are replacements for Freddie’s role. Thoughts?

by Buffalonian on Mar 4, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I Agree whole-heartedly

I totally agree. To me it seems clear that they are trying to make Fred the starter with a vet as his backup. I think Lynch will be gone by the draft.

by south123 on Mar 4, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And that may not be a bad thing

as awesome as it is to have both Lynch and Jackson in the backfield, I don’t think the team can afford to have two great backs. The trade-off may be to trade Lynch and get some other piece of the puzzle, like that pro bowl guard or field-stretching receiving threat that helps to open up the offense.

by south123 on Mar 4, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If they were looking to do that.......there are plenty of good RB's that can be had after the first round of the draft....

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s not a bad idea, but I think they would prefer to have the RB in place before the draft so that they can use Lynch for a trade to solidify another position or to get other draft picks. I don’t think they want to be in the situation where they dump Lynch first and then need to draft a RB. Trading Lynch after the draft may get you a player in trade but any draft picks at that point wouldn’t be good until 2010.

by south123 on Mar 5, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They can still pick up a vet like Kevin Jones before the draft...........

and then draft a RB in the second round or later…….wouldnt be an issue at all.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no way

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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They are hedging their bets against a long suspension...

Don’t read into this guys. They are not going to trade or cut Lynch. End of story. They want to run the ball more and if Marshawn is out for four games, Omon isn’t going to cut it. This is an indictment of Omon more than Lynch.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least

If Marshawn is out 4 games, they won’t have to pick and choose how many carries he gets the rest of the way. He’ll be like a September call up in baseball.

How’s that for Optimism!

by syrbillsfan on Mar 5, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More like a June call up...

But I get your thinking.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You are a stickler

Aren’t you. You put me back in the centre where I belong. :)

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by syrbillsfan on Mar 6, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and colourful

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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