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"We've got to score more points" -DJ

Watching some videos of DJ, he's very adiment about improving our offense, or so he says. Now, I don't know if DJ is the sly type, but it doesn't seem that he's the type of guy to pull a Kansas City Shuffle on the media to mislead other teams. But in 2006 the Bills worked out Haloti Ngata and drafted Donte Whitner, catching everybody in the world offguard.

 

Soooooo.... trying to anticipate a player or even a position that the Bills might take becomes a crapshoot. So we have to parcel it. But it is safe to say most people have (more like want) the Bills taking defense in the 1st round, particularly DE. So the opinions vary from Maybin to Brown to Orakpo.

 

Sooooo.... my question to the community is.... if you were going to improve Buffalo's offense as much as possible with the 11th pick in the draft, which player are you going for?

 

We'll eliminate some particluar players because they simply won't be realistically available: Jason Smith, Andre Smith, Michael Crabtree, Eugene Monroe, and maybe even Micahel Oher.

 

Sooooo..... after thinking about what we have and what's out there: the Bills are pretty crowded at tackle and there are no interior linemen worthy of a top 15 pick. The Bills are also too crowded at RB to draft one this high. Trent Edwards is not untouchable but Stafford ain't fallin to us and Mark Sanchez is quite possibly the most overrated QB prospect since Alex Smith. So, if Buffalo wants to improve their offense these are the guys they should be looking at.

Percy Harvin - easily the most dynamic athlete in the draft with the ball in his hands, he also has the best game-speed and quickness in this draft, bar none. Darius Heyward-Bey may have run the best at the combine, but I've watched him play and he just isn't a 4.3 guy with pads on. Harvin was a true game-breaker and the Gators weren't the same without him in the lineup... which is the only concern with him, he has been banged up with nagging injuries.

Brandon Pettigrew - Bills fans want a TE in the worst way, but they immediately dismiss Pettigrew from being a priority because they want a DE more. Well, I wasn't too impressed with Pettigrew until I saw some "tape" (videos from youtube, fan sites, game archives... yadda yadda) on him. I think he's an underrated athlete and actually gets off the LOS as quick as anyone else. He makes catches with A LOT of contact and his blocking skills are 2nd to none in the draft. All of that said, 11 may still be a little high for him, but he defintiely gets a 1st round grade from me. However, he may still last to the 2nd round where I could see Buffalo moving up a few spots for him.

Jeremy Maclin - A lot of people seem to be very high on Mr. Maclin. I like him, but I don't see a complete receiver in him. His value seems to be inflated by his return abilities and the system he played in along with the competition he faced. He may develop eventually but I think he'll have a pretty big learning curve much like Tedd Ginn Jr. did. Maclin, though, is very fast on the football field... so his 4.46 in the dash shouldn't be a considered a disappointment.

Darrius Heyward-Bey - I'm not very serious about him, but he flew up some draft boards after the combine because he ran the best time. But as I mentioned above, his football speed is a bit slower than Harvin and Maclin and he is a step below them skill-wise as well. But, he has very good size and maybe the most upside.

 

If I had to take one of these guys I would vote for Percy Harvin because if you can get the ball into his hands he could have an impact as a rookie. He showed fearlessness going over the middle in college (in the SEC, no less, NFL Jr.) and was also excellent in the vertical game. But he's just one of those players that if you get him the ball on a bubble screen it's an automatic first down and maybe even a TD. Maclin is a similar

Poll
Vote for the offensive weapon you would add to the Bills with their 1st round pick
Brandon Pettigrew
46 votes
Darrius Heyward-Bey
6 votes
Jeremy Maclin
16 votes
Percy Harvin
12 votes

80 votes | Poll has closed

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Could not agree more on Pettigrew. 11 is a little high for him. If the Bills could move down 10 places or so, he would be great pick up.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 4, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

and twice on Sunday!!!

Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do
when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Mar 4, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve addressed that need. I think with Hangartner, there’s no way we pick up a C in the early rounds. None. Day 2, maybe.

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 5, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

He can play guard.....which there is a hole there too.......

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

The 2 interior linemen who fit the Bills need are Alex Mack and Eric Wood. Both of them can play both Center or Guard. And both of them are darn good! They can even compete with Hantgartner for the C spot to see who is the better option.

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by moncheri on Mar 5, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

best scenario

the bills trade down gain a late second early 3rd. draft pettigrew, draft a OL (i prefer mack and start him at guard), then use the new pick to get a de/lb depending on what we do with the rest of FA

by billsstein on Mar 4, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

If you’re going to get a combo C/G, why not pick up Unger?

by WhyBillsWhy on Mar 5, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

On offense

I say Pettigrew. In fact he is one of a few picks i would be happy with in April. It might be nicer later in the first, but in some sense you are splitting hairs. I don’t know who the trade partner would be, but i would just assume take him, and be done with it.

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by killascript on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

I voted for Pettigrew and I HATE him at #11

If those are the options, then the Bills would be absolute idiots to take one of those players at #11.

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by Joe P. on Mar 4, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

I'd use the 11th on deffence

a good pass rush would help us a lot more than another receiving option for Edwards, especially since thedepth at DE isn’t nearly as good as the depth at TE after the first round of the draft.

Take either Maybin, Orakpo or Brown at 11, and use you second round pic on a TE. If you trade down and absolutly want to pick someone that would go on offence, then you go for Alex Mack, the best centre to come out of the draft in a long time.

But whatever you do YOU DON’T DRAFT PETTIGREW AT 11!!!!!

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 4, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

percy and maclin

have uncanny ways of getting down the field almost everytime they get the ball. i think they would be very good picks, harvin has injury history though, but i like him more than maclin. i would hate to have drafted pettigrew over either of these. hayward-bey is also nice, but not at pick 11. even percy at 11 would be stretching it, maybe trade down, get percy and mack……then a lb, then a TE. that would be good i think.

of course if we get waters, then no need for mack, get harvin and a de. i know people will think im crazy, but harvin is a play-maker.

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by silverstreak3k on Mar 4, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Maclin

Easy choice for me. That guy is going to be a dynamite playmaker in the NFL.

I don’t think I’ll ever like Pettigrew, mostly because he’s so slow and lumbering. How often can a TE actually use his frame to outmuscle defenders? Sure he can do it against the Keith Ellisons of the league, but against bigger, stronger players, I’m not convinced it’s happening. Not only does he run a 4.9 40, but he ran the second slowest cone drill at the combine, and that was without many of the faster TE’s not participating in that drill. That shows he also lacks the lateral quickness that many of the other players have. I just can’t see how this guy is worthy of the #11 pick in any universe.

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

How about Pat White? WR, KR, QB? I know it’s a stretch. He has said he want’s to be a Steeler (who doesn’t?)

I might have to go Maclin, since we have, in this post, conceded Crabtree is gone. But just for a thought outside the box: draft a QB.

Disclaimer: Trent is still my boy, and I like Fitzy for a back up. Heck, I even like Hamden.

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by Undee on Mar 5, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Theres always a place on a football team for a guy like Pat White......

I’d have him on my team anyday.

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Pettigrew can outrun most LBs and overpower most S in this league.

I don’t understand why people are so down on this kid. I am not a huge Pettigrew fan but he is obviously a very good player. Not necessarily a #11 player but a very good player.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Says who?

Has he played an NFL game? How are you so sure he can outrun LB’s and overpower the Safeties?

I think his negatives are such that it’d make it harder on him to be as big of a threat in the pass game that we need.

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Would he be a serious deep threat?

Probably not. But against NFL-caliber safeties and LBs he did that. I’m not saying he’s the best TE since sliced break or anything but against top-flight college talent he did that.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree totally

I think Shawn Nelson has much better upside than Pettigrew.

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by moncheri on Mar 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

When will....

Pettigrew have to run a cone drill in a game? I hope you’ve at least watched him before you call him slow and lumbering… because that was not the impression I got. His acceleration out off the line is impressive, and his size is even more impressive. If Buffalo wants to definitively solve their TE problem, a player like Pettigrew is the answer, not the one-dimensional athletic pass-catching types.

He’s probably not worth 11th overall, be he really is the best TE in the draft.

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by ForeignArrow on Mar 5, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Pettigrew could solve the problems...

but I also think a college-level, one-dimensional TE could come in and solve the problem as well.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen him, he just looks BIGGER than everyone else out there, which is obviously a major bonus for him. But he never seems to gain separation, and I see that as a major problem in the NFL. The cone drill obviously means very little, but it does show his quickness in and out of cuts/breaks. Will he be able to get open in the NFL on out patterns? A team can’t just ask to run and turn and shield defenders with his huge frame. Am I the only one concerned about that?

Obviously, I have no idea how he will translate to the NFL, but I’m just afraid he won’t be able to rely on his size all that much in the NFL. That’s my major gripe with him. He is probably the best TE in the draft, but that doesn’t mean he should be taken in the top half of the first round.

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by Kurupt on Mar 5, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He is probably the best TE in the draft, but that doesn’t mean he should be taken in the top half of the first round.

I think most of us agree here….

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Raising my hand in agreement :-)

Bad boys, bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do
when they come for you?

by Joe P. on Mar 5, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not the only one

I’m not sold on Pettigrew either.

The way I see it, to be successful in the NFL, either you have blazing speed to run past everybody, or you need to have ellusive cuts/breaks and run good routes to find openings. Hardy is not slow, but he was completely lost last season in running routes. Unless I can see Pettigrew able to gain separation, I’m not convinced he can be successful catching the football in the NFL level.

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by moncheri on Mar 6, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Harvin?

I’m a huge Gator Alum and love Percy Harvin, but he isn’t going to give you much more than you already get from Roscoe. He is no doubt a game breaker, but I think Parrish is too. I just think the Bills coaching staff lack the imagination to get players like this in positions to succeed.

Where else would you rather be...

by Slick Shifty on Mar 5, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

So, are you saying you're huge?

joking aside, while I’m not advocating this selection as the Bills pick, I would go with Percy Harvin out of this group. He averaged over 10 yards per touch in his college career and while that was college it’s hard to argue with that type of production. I think the comparison to Parrish is valid but Harvin is 30 lbs heavier and just as fast.

by gatornation on Mar 5, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s also as frail as an 97 year old woman.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 5, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

…who never drank milk.

by XtrmeCarnage82 on Mar 5, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

that's extreme

he missed 5 games out of 41 in his career.

by gatornation on Mar 5, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Um...

so you’re going to positionally profile Harvin in with Parrish because they are both small fast receivers? Parrish has never done anything close to what Harvin has in college or the pros…. horrible comparison.

I think the Bills execute poorly on the types of “imaginative” play calls you’re referring to.

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by ForeignArrow on Mar 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Bravo Dick!

Of course you need to score more points! So you release your highest paid lineman and let three others (albeit terrible) walk in FA and you have signed a backup QB (not that great) and a center. Currently we have how many reserve lineman? 1 or 2? And what have you done to upgrade the TE position? Nothing and that is the most glaring weakness on this HORRID offense.

So you want to score more points but you just crushed whatever mojo the o-line had and you have failed to upgrade the WEAKEST LINK on the offense? Dick – you are a genius!

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Mar 5, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

… it’s been less than 7 days.

A degree of patience is required.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

MEN DONT WORRY GUY;S WHEN WE HAVE A NEW OWNER WILL WIN

IT does not matter i bettall my money we can get 5 guys in a row yes 5 guys one after another and we will have the same record, IT will not make a diference——- WHY because the play calling sucksss yes NO more defending the coach and yes we fine the way to losse in the las quarter. WHY COACHES CALLING

by abayarde on Mar 6, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

New owner = team gets better???

yeah, maybe when the team moves to another city. Say what you will about Wilson, at least he’s keeping the Bills in Buffalo. And you can forget about the team staying close and moving to Toronto (which would be a horrible move anyway) because Ted Rogers (you know the guy that brought the team north of the border for the Toronto series) die last fall and his proposed ownership goup fell apart after that.

Just about the only saving grace would be the commissioner, who’s a Buffalo native and said one of his top priorities is to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 7, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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