WR Galloway visiting Bills on Thursday
by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 10:44 AM EST
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PrintThe Buffalo Bills have announced that free agents WR Joey Galloway and RB Kevin Jones are touring the facilities at One Bills Drive on Thursday.
Galloway visited with the New England Patriots on Wednesday. The 14-year veteran has had three lengthy stints with the Seahawks, Cowboys and most recently the Buccaneers; at age 37, Galloway has accumulated over 10,000 receiving yards and 77 touchdowns in a career in which he established himself as one of the league's elite deep threats.
It's anticipated that the Bills will entertain more free agent receivers beyond Galloway after their top wideout target, Laveranues Coles, signed with the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday.
Jones played for a coaching staff featuring Dick Jauron in 2004 and 2005 while with Detroit. He spent time with the Bears last year, and has entered the portion of his career where he'll bounce from team to team unless he can find a situation to re-establish himself as a threat. Jones has always had elite potential, but has dealt repeatedly with serious injuries. Jones would fortify a running back depth chart that was shaken recently with the arrest of starter Marshawn Lynch.
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Well they obviously recognize the need for a WR#2 – but isn’t Galloway like 80?
Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?
ok he’s 37 and will be 38 on Nov. 20th
2008 – 13 rec for 138 yds and a 10.6 clip with a long of 22 and no TD’s
2007 – 57 rec for 1,014yds 17.8 avg and a long of 69 with 6 TD’s
- per nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888
Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There's a thousand dollars in there... or maybe there isn't. Know what I mean?
by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Not interested in J. Galloway
I would rather sign TO or spark a trade for someone else. I’d rather see Amani TOomer, but frankly, i wouldn’t want either. make a trade, or figure something else out
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all joey
galloway does is prove people wrong. He still has above average speed and is a reliable threat on long deep ins and comeback routes. I would not mind this signing at all. Not sure about his health but the guy is a class act and I would completely welcome him in. I’m glad to see the quest for vet WR continue on. I think adding vets at RB, WR, LB and QB are smart moves to help the youth at that position. Brining in a vet WR would be good for Hardy & Johnson to learn from and add some competition for incumbents Evans & Reed.
MARVelous
I agree with adding a vet #2 WR, but don’t we already have an above average reliable threat on long deep ins and comeback routes in Lee?
Just saying.
Galloway as #2 would allow Josh Reed to operate out of the slot.
by thefourwinds on Mar 5, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but he wouldn't fill the need
we have a guy to do the deep speed routes – Evans
we have a guy to do the short slot routes – Reed
we need a guy to do the mid level possetions routes, and thats not Galloway
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Levels, Schmevels. All I want is a guy that can be a threat to keep Lee clean in coverage. Can Galloway be that threat? I have no idea. But I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if OBD thinks he can.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not denying that he’s a threat… i’m just not sure if he’s the threat we need.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Cant Hurt
To sign him and bring him to camp. His experience alone could be worth the small amount we’d have to pay him. Isn’t there some kind of salary cap exception to bringing in long time veteran players (not that the cap is an issue with the Bills)? I think he could fill a player / coach role with the Bills.
Yes... kind of.
Generally, the practice of retaining veteran players who had contributed to the team in the past, but whose abilities have declined, even those who are fan favorites has become less common in the era of the salary cap. A veteran’s minimum salary is required to be higher than a player with lesser experience. This means teams tend to favour cheaper, less experienced prospects with growth potential, with an aim to having a group of players who quickly develop into their prime while still being on cheaper contracts than their peers. To offset this dollars and cents driven tendency, the players’ association accepted an arrangement so that a veteran player who receives no bonuses in his contract may be paid the veteran minimum of up to $810,000, while only accounting for $425,000 in salary-cap space.
It only works if he is signed for the veteran minimum. It’s not really an issue for us, though, as you said.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
don't be so concerned about his age
2 years ago he was burning much younger CBs to a crisp on a pretty messed up Bucs Offense.
'm not concerned about his age at all
I know the guy can still play… what i’m questioning is whether or not his style of play would be a good fit in Buffalo
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid the dude's leg will fly off each time he takes off downfield
He breaks down more often than my dad’s old Ford Pinto did back in the 80s!
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
I'd be alot more interested in Holt
He is said to be asking for a release
The Bills CAN win every game
Bring in Plexico
We might not win many games but can you imagine the great half time show we could have if we signed Plexico Burress and Tank Johnson. Ralph Wilson could dress up like Buffalo Bill Coty, have one of the Jills play Annie Oakley, and Marshan, Plexico and Tank could have a shoot out at the OK Ralph Corral.
Disregarding the personal issues...
T.O. is elite but he drops balls left and right. For every huge play he has, he drops a couple bread-and-butter ones. I know Josh Reed cured himself of that, but I sure as hell don’t want Owens infecting our younger receivers with the idea that it’s ok to drop balls “as long as you make up for it later”.
The guy would be a beast over the intermediate-depth middle but only if you put some Gorilla Glue on his gloves. Unless EVERYBODY turns their noses up at him for a few weeks, he’s also gonna cost to much. Too many holes to fill. We have cap space, but as already mentioned, we’ve got like 12 (not all critical) holes to fill. We need a role player, not a superstar.
TO = NO
You would have to be “off your rocker” to even think about bringing TO on this team.
His only shot of a job this season may only be the Raiders
How many years can we go without making the playoffs...eventually the odds go in your favor.........right?!?!?
Vet WR's
I realize there isn’t a whole lot of quality WR’s available in FA right now, but bringing in all these guys w/ all the mileage they have on them, OBD ought to just give Andre a call and be done /w it already!
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LOL dudes, this is a Galloway thread. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions
see how much attention he brings. he isn’t even speculated to come to buffalo and he’s dominating the conversations. no wonder the media camps in his backyard
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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I like Galloway
But I don’t think that he’s the knid of WR that we need. Gallaway is an elite deep threat, but so is Evans. To me all Galloway is is an older version of Lee Evans.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player, but we need someone to complement Evans, someone that will be great at intermediate routes up the middle, not someone that will go deep opposte Lee.
I just don’t think he’s the answer.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Bingo Bango!
They need the complement to Evans, not the mirror to him.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Correction
Galloway was an elite deep threat.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Evans
Am I missing something here? Evans is fast, yes, but that can get him cutting across the middle just as much as down the sideline. I seen him do all of the routes just fine. If teams had to cover Galloway, or someone like him, Evans would get single coverage on his side, or across the middle. It would also allow us to do some deep crossing routes, things like that. Pretty neat possibilities actually.
Pass on Galloway....
Don’t count on the Bills signing a vet WR. They are bringing in guys who were cut, not originally intended to be on the market.
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Perhaps doing so to drive the interest up so other teams spend money foolishly.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yawn....
Galloway? Eh, I think he’s as washed up as they come. Didn’t his hamstrings turn into dust in the past year?
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13 catches with zero TD’s – not exactly what I would call productive
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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
He missed seven games and wasn’t completely healthy for the vast majority of the year. Just saying.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
oh I know – i was just adding to K’s hamstring comment on his production last year.
if nothing else – the time off might be good for him. little R & R
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by J2 on Mar 5, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
And that begs the question of whether he can play HERE completely healthy this season
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
I’m shocked at this. I thought the Bills would make a run at Coles, and if that fell through (which it did) then they would hold tight with what they have.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Pro Joey
I have to say that I would love to see Galloway on the Bills. With the exception of last season, where he was out most of the season with injuries, Galloway has been one of the most consistent receivers in the league. From 2005-2007 he had over 1000 yards in each season. Hes a veteran, who has been getting the job done in this league for a long time and he has played with tons of quarterbacks.Meaning that it wouldn’t be a hard transition for him coming to the Bills. The idea of Galloway lining up next to Evans gets me excited.
by Billlls Way 2 Long With No Playoffs on Mar 5, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Lee x 2
Another Lee on the other side to me isn’t the answer as far as being a “compliment” to him.
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We need someone to take away the safety double-teaming Evans.
It really is irrelevant how that WR or TE accomplishes that.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 6, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Either you’re serious, or you have an intense hatred for Joey Galloway.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Why?
Can’t we think Curry is a better fit and that Galloway has come to the ennnnnddd offfff the roooooadddd….?
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
When has Ronald Curry ever been considered a “threat”? When has he ever been a guy that defenses say “Hey, he’s on the field, maybe we should give a crap”?
Ronald Curry won’t help Lee Evans. Ronald Curry, to me, is Josh Reed with a few more touchdowns.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
the problem with Galloway
is that he is 37! I don’t care how good you are. If you pick up a guy who was injured all season long at the age of 36 you are taking an 80% chance that he is done at age 37. Why didnt the Pats sign him? Its not a knock against Joey. 37 is 37, you cant sugercoat that.
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by poz on Mar 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I mentioned earlier in the post that I have no idea if Galloway is the answer. I’d learn toward no, probably, but I think he has something to offer, if only in name. The same can’t be said about Curry.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure I follow your logic, Brian. Defenses should respect Galloway because he’s a name? Jerry Rice is a name, but I wouldn’t expect defenses to give a crap if he lined up opposite Evans next year.
I think that even at age 37, Galloway has enough left in his tires to be a problem for a defense on occasion. Again, I’m not saying “zomg sing him he fixes our offence!!!!!”, but he has far more to offer than does Ronald Curry.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
The idea of bringing in someone who has had success and recent success could only be good. He might not be the ideal compliment to Lee but he is a quality receiver. He becomes are second best receiver immediately. We have one of the worst receiving crews 1-5 in the league. Galloway would be a huge boost. When was the last time Ronald Curry or Amani Toomer had a 1000 yard receiving year?
by Billlls Way 2 Long With No Playoffs on Mar 5, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions
Toomer – 2003 last year 48 for 580 yards
Curry – never
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
In Curry's defense....
He’s had about 400 QB’s in his career with the Raiders…….not to mention prima donnas Moss and Porter in his way…….I bet given a real shot he could Josh Reed version 1A
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
LOL. Not trying to compare the two situations, just think it’s funny that Curry had 400 QBs in his career as a Raider, and Galloway had 400 QBs for the Bucs in 2006. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well would you rather have Brian Griese, Jeff Garcia throwing to you......
or Andrew Walters and Tuiasopo?
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why I said I wasn’t comparing the situation. I just like to mock Jon Gruden and his vast QB collection.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
well now that he's no longer employed he should consider joining the college ranks......
He could have 10 QB’s on his roster with no issues at all :)
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean? He'll just recruit an ENTIRE team of QBs
And will run a crazy multiple reverse and throw style offense with 11 QBs on the field for O.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
you know what, that might work
never know who will take the snap, it would be like that crazy college play with 20 laterals while the band came onto the field… but every play!
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
recent success
Joey Galloway was hurt the entire season last year and brought in 13 catches. He was good two seasons ago. When you are 37 that is not recent success, that is eons ago. Once you pass 34, each season becomes the equivalent of two or three. He is 37, I reiterate, 37. When receivers go down, they don’t go down gradually, it just happens. Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, etc. He is 37 and didnt do anything last year. Pass
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by poz on Mar 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Psst… if you hit “reply” (or press R when a comment is highlighted – Z to scroll through them), the comments will be threaded and beautiful. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
2007 – yards – 1014 tds – 6
2006 – yards – 1057 tds -7
2005 – yards – 1287 tds-10
In 2008 as we all no he was hurt. There is no doubt in my mind he is worth the risk. He becomes the second best receiver on the team immediately. Its nice that we have hope for Steve Johnson and James Hardy but we need someone who has proven they cant get it done. In my eyes signing him for will cost the Bills almost nothing is a no brainier.Hes a veteran, who is a good in the locker room and still has something left in the tank. I was disappointed we didn’t sign Coles but that was to be expected as we probably didn’t shell out the money and the opportunity to play with Carson Palmer is hard to turn down. In my eyes this is a no brainier.
by Billlls Way 2 Long With No Playoffs on Mar 5, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions
good post here
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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Then why not Marvin Harrison? He’s a year younger than Galloway, and has better stats in 05-06…
2005 – 82 – 1146 – 12 TDs
2006 – 95 – 1366 – 12 TDs
2007 – 16 – 223 – 1 TD (first three games before injury)
2008 – 60 – 636 – 5 TDs (still injured)
And that’s competing with other receivers for catches; Galloway was been the ONLY receiver worth throwing to on TB. On the other hand, it’s Manning throwing the passes, not Rattay/Gradkowski/Garcia/Simms/Griese.
I'd take Galoway before Harrison
Galoway is used to the outdoors, played outdoors his entire career (Seatle, Dallas, Tampa… ok the weather is light n tampa, but theres still wind and rain), and that does have a factor in a receiver’s play. Harrison has always had the comfort of a dome, I wouldn’t want to put him outdoors at this point in his career. and deffinatly not in the cold of buffalo
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Not quite.
He played in Seattle from 1995-1999. Qwest didn’t open until 2002 and the years spent in Husky Stadium were 1994 and 2000-2001. Old Cowboy Stadium was as close as you can get to a dome without it being a dome (and is in Texas) and from personal experience Tampa is 100 degrees year round. That place is awful.
by twoeightnine on Mar 5, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
the fact is they all had openings, which means that they all had to deal with the elements at one point or another.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 6, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Openings?
Like doorways? Because the Kingdome is a dome. I know it’s rainy up in Seattle but the walk from his car into the stadium couldn’t have taken more than 2 minutes.
http://magliery.com/Graphics/FH/kingdome.jpg
Besides, it’s not like the Bills are a cold weather/elements team. Either one would fit right in.
by twoeightnine on Mar 6, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
good points
but i’d still feel more comfortable with Galoway over Harrison… and i’m not all that comfortable with Galoway, so it tells you how i feel about this entire thing
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 6, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
The problem with Galloway
is that he is too much like Evans. He either torches you with 7 cathes for 157 yds and 2 touchdowns, or he kiss you with 2 catches for 8 yards.
We need someone that gives you 6 catches for 76 yards, most games. I hate to live in the past, but that guy was Coles. Look at Coles 2008 stats and Galloway’s 2007 stats. Not that Galloway hasn’t played well, just not the type of receiver we need. And I’m not asking you to look at Coles 2008 numbers to belabor us not signing him, but more for example of what we need.
I thought kiss worked there.
Like he didn’t hurt them… he kissed them. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kiss or Kill, either way, its still not enough to hurt the opponent
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
Not sure you’re completely accurate on this one.
Coles played 16 games in 2008. He had 3 catches or less in 5 of them (31).
Coles played 10 games in 2007. He had 3 catches or less in 4 of them (40).
Galloway played 15 games in 2007. He had 3 catches or less in 5 of them (33).
Galloway played 15 games in 2006. He had 3 catches or less in 5 of them (33).
Look like pretty similar players to me.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know where my percent signs went, but the schtuff in parentheses is a percentage.
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by Brian Galliford on Mar 5, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Joey G
As far as FA WR’s currently on the market most are of the 34and up variety, in talking with freinds in the Tampa area they report that while an older vet Joey G religiously works out and keeps his body in really good shape. He has always had some speed and very good hands and someone like him may not only provide receiving help but may provide a good locker room presence for the younger players. A.Toomer strikes me as another option ,at least at this point who could provide some production for a year or so.
And I think we could sign Toomer (and possibly Galloway) for the Vet minimum.
$810,000, while only accounting for $425,000 in salary-cap space.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
ok I would all for Galloway for a vet minimum
A vet minimum would be great for Galloway, I just don’t think he can be had for that. someone will give him a chance
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by poz on Mar 5, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, bring them both in, have them fight to the death, winner gets a guranteed vet minimum contract
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
Yeah... 850k is worth that...
:-)
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
If we really want to make it interesting
bring in harrison, holt and engram too and we could have a battle-royale of 35+ possible has-been receivers. The winner gets the vet minimum.
The loser will immediately be unmasked and killed.
simpsons reference….
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 5, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
you guys are horrible you know that?
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 5, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
And you love us despite that eh?
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
despite that?
I love you BECAUSE of that!
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 6, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
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