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Rumblings Scouting Report: DE Aaron Maybin

Bumped from the FanPosts. This is exemplary work from Fort Worth. There have been a ton of quality FanPosts here recently. Keep up the good work, Rumblers. --Brian

One player that many bloggers here think the Bills should consider with their #11 overall selection in the upcoming draft is Penn State’s Aaron Maybin.  If any of you are like me, you didn’t have a clue who Maybin was going into the 2008 season.  Once I learned about him, it was too late in the season to watch enough of his games to give him a good evaluation.  Since he was a sophomore, I figured he would return to Penn State for at least one more year, and then I could get a closer look at him.  Well, the rest is history and I have to make do with what I have.  For anyone that is interested, the following are my notes and observations of Aaron Maybin, compiled from game highlights, the entire Rose Bowl game (Penn State versus USC), and the Scouting Combine.  Therefore, please consider this an incomplete evaluation.

 

Positives: Has natural pass rush ability.  Shows good quickness off the snap, speed around the corner, and a burst to close.  While he mostly penetrates with an outside speed rush, he will also counter by knifing inside or by using a spin move.  Reaches out with his arms and forces fumbles.  Showed some versatility by playing at both left and right defensive end, as well as occasionally dropping into and covering underneath zones.  Defends the run on the move and in pursuit from the backside.  Plays with passion and energy.  Very competitive; hustles in games and participated in every event at the Combine.  Good production (49 tackles, 20 tackles for loss, 12 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles in 2008).  Appears to have good enough feet to play linebacker.  Has added weight and gotten bigger and stronger.  Good overall muscle definition.  Has no known medical or durability issues and has not missed any games due to injury.  Jumped well at the Combine (38” vertical, 10’4” broad).

 

Negatives: May not have the body type, particularly in the core, trunk, and thigh area where anchor strength is required to be an every-down defensive end in the NFL.  Gets moved and pushed around in the running game.  USC had some success running at him.  Does not show the elite first-step quickness of a DeMarcus Ware or a Dwight Freeney, who are often the first guys moving at the snap.  Displayed poor snap anticipation versus USC; was offside and penalized twice for it and almost received a third.  Rarely double-teamed or chipped by a running back; is usually single blocked, regardless of run or pass.  On two plays versus USC, he was single-blocked by a tight end and he stayed blocked.  Only beats blockers with speed or an occasional spin move, and does not show great hand use or other moves to come free, such as a bull rush, a swim, a dip, or a club.  Seems to have stiff hips for a linebacker.  Demoted from first team to second team during the week of the Rose Bowl.  Average overall Combine performance.

 

Much more after the jump.

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Summary: Maybin has the tools to be a very good pass rusher, and with continued coaching and development, he has the potential to be a linebacker or a defensive end in the pros.  His best NFL position could be rush linebacker.  As a defensive end, some aspects of his game are correctable, but he could always struggle to defend the run in the trenches.  Although Maybin could continue to add weight and muscle, the question is not only if he could still maintain his speed and quickness, but also if his body could naturally carry that added manufactured muscle and avoid injuries.  Based on his raw talent and natural pass rush ability, I think Maybin grades out as a mid-first round pick.

 

Other Comments: While it may seem like Maybin has a lot of negatives, please understand these are merely my notes and observations, including specific plays, rather than negatives in his overall game.  Also, some of his flaws are correctable.  I do believe that Maybin is a first round talent.  For a better evaluation, there are a few things that I would like to know but I don’t have access to, or I have been unable confirm: medical and injury information, personal background and character information, intangibles, more game tapes, and measured arm length to extend and defeat blockers, force fumbles, deflect passes, etc.

 

Additionally, I would like to caution anyone who labels players as being able or unable to do something purely based on height-weight-speed, without understanding what is more important and watching that player play.

 

When you only look at height or weight, it just doesn’t tell the whole story.  For example, Emmitt Smith, one of the best inside runners of all time, was listed at 5’9” and 209 pounds.  Reggie Bush is listed at 6’0” and 203 pounds and struggles running inside.  Warrick Dunn is 5’9” and 187 pounds, he can run inside, but he also has very thick and strong thighs for his size.  Every player is different.  A player’s body type, physical makeup, and play in games are so much more important than simply their height and weight.

 

The same thing can be said about speed.  Just because a cornerback runs a 4.3 or 4.4 in the 40 doesn’t automatically mean that he can play man coverage.  I think Antrel Rolle ran a 4.3 or 4.4 in the 40, but was unsuccessful at cornerback.  A cornerback must have the hips, fluidity, closing speed, and instincts to play man coverage.  In addition, just because a wide receiver runs a 4.5 or 4.6 in the 40 doesn’t necessarily mean that he is a possession receiver or that he can’t make big plays down the field.  We all know about Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, and Anquan Boldin.

 

Therefore, when I attempt to evaluate a guy like Aaron Maybin or any pro prospect, I try to avoid those stereotypes and just watch him play.  Will he be able to play defensive end in the NFL?  Although he gets washed out in the running game, does he have the potential to significantly improve in this area?  I thought about every reasonably successful NFL defensive end that I could think of in the last 20 or so years, and the only player with a similar physical makeup to Maybin is Jason Taylor (thin trunk and thin thighs).  So defensive end seems like a possibility but not a probability for Maybin.  At the same time, like I said, every player is different.  If Maybin plays at, say, a more natural 240 pounds, can he compensate against the run by playing with better leverage and technique?  On the flip side, does he have the range and athletic ability to move in reverse and play linebacker?  He may be best utilized in a hybrid role as a rush linebacker in the pros.  Questionable position, unquestionable talent.

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Is he just a one year starter?

by copperbillzfn on Mar 8, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. He played some as a freshman, collecting 12 tackles and 4 sacks.

by kaisertown on Mar 8, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I think Maybin only started for one year.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He only started one year

and the only reason he started this past year was because the player ahead of was punished for off the field issues and was out most of the season.

by Shovel51 on Mar 9, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He took advantage of an oppertunity

and now it’s paying off for him.

Remember Warren Sapp used to be The Rock’s bachup in college until the Rock broke his leg, then Sapp became a college star.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

Good analysis Fort Worth. As a PSU alum, I was fortunate to watch all of Maybin’s games this past year. You pretty much his everything right on the head. He’s a very talented, but very raw player. He only started in 2008 (and hardly even played in ‘07), so there’s not too much to go on. He has a good first step and multipe pass-rush moves. I think those are his best attributes that would translate into success in the NFL. The biggest thing I worry about Orakpo is that he is limited in pass-rush moves, I don’t have that concern at all with Maybin. My biggest concern about him is is frame/size. He has put on nearly 15 pounds since the end of the season, but he doesn’t have an overly big frame, so he may not be able to add much more. So yeah, he’s smallish and may not be a stud against the run, be neither is Aaron Schobel or Dwight Freeney.

Maybin is a good talent, and I would be happy if he were a Buffalo Bill. That said, he should have stayed in school another year. He is very young and raw and would have benefited from another year of learning. If Buffalo drafted him, I see him as a pass-rush DE in his first season (or even two), supplementing Kelsey in passing situations. Kelsey would still be the starter and Maybin would have a chance to make a slow transition into the NFL. If things went right, Maybin could be starting in 2010, allowing Buffalo to cut Kelsey before the final year of his deal.

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 9, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks John!

While I have not seen Maybin play as much as you have, I did not notice multiple pass rush moves, except for his usual outside speed rush and a spin move once in a while. Have you seen Maybin use other moves to break free, for instance dipping underneath a blocker, bending off the edge, or using his hands to slap blockers away? Regardless, pass rush moves are a skill, which can be coached. Takeoff quickness and closing speed cannot be coached, and those are two main reasons why I think Maybin is a first round talent.

Maybin seems to play with effort and intensity, something that is reportedly lacking in Brian Orakpo’s game.

Young players entering the NFL can be a positive. If they can handle it mentally and physically, and have some success early, then his team can really get some bang for their buck and potentially have that player for a very long playing career.

Even as a rookie, do you really see Maybin supplementing Kelsay in passing situations? Kurupt and I may tend to think that you are giving Kelsay a little too much credit. Aren’t you sure that Maybin would supplant Kelsay, if Kelsay even manages to make the final roster? LOL! Thanks again for your comments, John.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he would be supplementing Kelsay/Denney, hopefully more Denney….

~K
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by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Kelsay is on the team,

then he should only be allowed on the field for the coin toss, exclusively to perform his captaincy duties, and that’s it. And that’s assuming that Kelsay is not relieved of those duties by a more deserving player who actually performs on the field, such as Marcus Stroud.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Kelsay once chase the coin around on the ground, never caught it though.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 9, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I can see that happening.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m completely with you, John…my post below is somewhat superfluous now that I read this, haha.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 10, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

it’s all good. BTW, it’s good to have another Penn Stater around these parts. I went NUTS when Buffalo drafted Poz in ’07!

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 10, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I screamed and ran around my apt then. My Steeler fan roommates thought I was nuts.

John Madden told me 90% of the game was half-mental...

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 10, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

Isn’t that the same as taking an Ohio State guy in every draft?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 11, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im with John REC'd..................

but not with wanting Maybin…….

Not another Schobel clone……..

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks norcaliangelsfan!

What don’t you like about Maybin? Size? Run defense? As our rival Joey Porter says: “If you don’t stop the run, you can’t have fun.” I can agree with that.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont like his size......but thats not really why I dont want him

Im not saying that he wouldnt be productive…..because I dont know…and he certainly produced against the Big 10 (11 lol)….and if the team trades back later in the draft then I feel his value is higher…….however at 11 Im against taking a DE period………I dont think there is anyone that deserves being picked there…..DE wise…..If I had my choice..the Bills would trade down a few spots…then they can get Pettigrew/Maybin/Brown…whomever….but if they stay at 11 I would much rather grab a big DT

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2009 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I probably like Brown the best but I’m not blown away by any of the DE’s prospects this year. I’m more inclined to say we select an OLB that is an effective blitzer and can cover the flat. Cushing is a prime example which I think Brian discussed in an earlier discussion.

by gatornation on Mar 9, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would also be okay with a LB at 11

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by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin is my first choice at 11

I don’t think he’ll have imidiate impact, but I do think he’ll developpe into a superstar, thats why I’d draft him.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Maybin is at best a 3-4 outside linebacker. It would be a grave mistake to draft him, especially if Brown or Orakpo is still on the board. Look at his size. Coy Wire was almost that big.

In all seriousness, most of the folks around here want a DE to come in and make an impact as a rookie. Maybin is not that guy. Maybe next year or the year after, but not this year. If they take a DE it should be Brown or Orakpo if they are available, definitely Raji if he’s available. Otherwise they should take a linebacker, or trade down.

I really think Maybin would be a mistake, at least if the Bills’ are looking for production this year, and really I think he would be a mistake unless they draft him in the second round. Some team is going to grab him before then, and more than likely we won’t hear that name again until next year, or never.

Is it just me or is there just no elite talent out there this year?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 9, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If your going for immidiate impact, then your right, the bills should stay away from Maybin. If your looking for the player that will have the best career and the biggest impact on his team over his carreer, than Maybin is your guy.

It’s just a prefference of Immidiate impact or Long term impact.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even sure

About long term impact with him, really. He had one good year, against Big Ten teams. What does that even translate to? The big ten in many respects had a very down year this year, especially once the bowls rolled around. He’s young, and had one good sophomore year. I don’t doubt some NFL team picks him in the 1st round, possibly high in the 1st round. I have serious misgivings about his viability against NFL sized competition, and I would peg his success is likely only a 50/50 proposition at best. It’s much lower than that if you looking for greatness. I’m not just down on Maybin, that’s just the math of the top of the first round. All of these guys look like their going to be the “GREATEST EVER” such and such, but the reality is very few pan out to be great. I think Brown or Orakpo at the least will be Whitner types, Maybin is more of a boom or bust pick. At DE, he’ll never have the size to contribute much on the run side of the ball, so, what does that leave? Is it worth the 11th pick to get a situational pass rusher who might develop to greatness, but is just as likely to flame out? The Pats or Giants or Cowboys might be able to afford a pick like that. Buffalo, not so much. Our DE corps is mediocre at best, and our best DE is starting to get a little ripe. We need a pass rusher who already is technically sound. Some guys pick up a few new tricks in the NFL, but for the most part you battle with the tools you were born with and those you were taught in college. The only guy with the full slew of pass rush moves is Brown. The leaning on Brown is 3-4 LB, where does that put Maybin if he’s even smaller? I think if we’re going to end up with a project DE anyway, we should get one later in the draft. It probably is best to get our pick of the available linebackers at 11. There seems to be a much better crop of them this year.

We still need to see what Chris Ellis is made of. He should see a lot more action. He’s got good size too. Maybe he’ll ave better instincts than Chris Kelsay, right?

by syrbillsfan on Mar 10, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If your going for immidiate impact, then your right, the bills should stay away from Maybin. If your looking for the player that will have the best career and the biggest impact on his team over his carreer, than Maybin is your guy.

It’s just a prefference of Immidiate impact or Long term impact.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only dt worth of that is rajii and that is debatable

rajii may be gone before we select at 11, and if not his worth of the 11 pick is probably as unknown right now as maybin’s value at 11, either way i could definately see rajii being gone before we pick at 11 and then there is no dt worth the 11th pick

by Shovel51 on Mar 9, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Maybin...

…He is often listed as the 3’rd or 4’th best DE in the draft. I want the best or second best player in his respective position with the 11th overall pick.

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Mar 9, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By who?

I have seen Maybin pretty high in most of the mocks I’ve seen….
20 and higher.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's listed as that, by his curent performance

But if you don’t mind using him in a rotation for his first year, then he is the best DE in this draft. His straight out ability is better than any other DE in this draft and if he is given a chance to developpe then he will be a GREAT De in a few seasons.

However if your looking for immidiate impact, then you don’t draft Maybin, if your looking for future team worth, then Maybin should deffinitly be your man.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job Fort Worth!!!!

I wonder if the TO signing will change the possibility of drafting Maybin? TO was signed to a one year deal. Are the Bills willing to draft Maybin and let him develop, or do they want to win NOW so badly that he will take the most NFL ready DE on the board? Or, will they go BPA?

You can’t let T.O. use your man berries as a chew toy!

by Joe P. on Mar 9, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Joe!

As you previously mentioned, T.O. should not change the Bills’ draft plans at all. But you make a good point here that the Bills could change their draft plans to win now, based on what they’ve done with T.O. I think you already know what my draft philosophy is, and that I wouldn’t change it. However, as we know, what the Bills should do and what the Bills will do are two completely different things.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I think I have underestimated how badly the Bills FO wants to win now at any cost. Ralf wants to win before he dies, and Jauron & staff want to win before they are killed!

You can’t let T.O. use your man berries as a chew toy!

by Joe P. on Mar 9, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slogan for the Bills in 2009

Billieve In Now”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_SvxJZwrTQ

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job in analyzing Maybin

You’ve put it in much more detail than I ever could have. And, like you, I don’t think the Bills should draft Maybin with their #11 pick. My view is that:

1)With the added weight in the combine he didn’t do well, and I can see he’ll have difficulty in getting leverage from the tackles. So I see him more of a 3-4 OLB.
2)As you mentioned, Maybin still in development, so he probably can’t contribute much in his first year. If the T.O. signing is any indication, this team wants to get some respectable wins now, and the FO is probably looking to draft people who can contribute right off the bat. And out of Orakpo, Brown, and Maybin (the consensus top 3 DE in the draft), Orakpo is most pro ready. He’s not ideal DE either, but if the Bills indeed would like to go DE on their #11 pick, then Orakpo is probably their choice.

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Mar 9, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, moncheri.

Much appreciated. Yeah, I agree with your first item. Regarding your second item, my view is much more general. I have a draft philosophy that I believe in, and one that I could create an entire fanpost for. For now, I will just say that I recognize the difference between what I think the Bills should do and what the Bills will do.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin is my first choice in the draft

The way i look at it, he deffinatly has some growing to do and may not be as NFL ready as Orakpo and Brown. But unlike those two, Maybin’s still has a lot ferther to go and the vast majority of his weaknesses are correctible just by having good coaching.

All in all I think he’s the best DE prospect in this draft, he may not be a starter this year, but has the potential to be a bigger star in this league than any other deffencive lineman in this draft. I would deffinatly take him at 11.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very unbiased analysis

Thanks for the contribution.

After all was said, it doesn’t sound like the guy is good enough to be drafted that high – 11th. Too risky, at this point. Keep us posted on Penn State players!!

by ccthemovieman on Mar 9, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No problem at all.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks fellow Rumblers.

I love the front page recognition!

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good job man, great post with many informations.

by hightower_mc on Mar 9, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post

I agree with you 100%.

If you don’t mind do the same thing for Orakpo and Brown. haha you don’t have to if you don’t want to though.

by buffaloboy90 on Mar 9, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish that I still had their game tapes to evaluate.

I had to delete some Texas and Florida State games from my DVR because most of the recording space on my DVR was and still is consumed by Buffalo Bills games! Ugh.

Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.

by Fort Worth on Mar 9, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown Game Tape

I know this isn’t much, but check out Everette Brown on youtube, he’s AMAZING. Unfortunately, Youtube is my only source of tape. Because of this I have not been able to evaluate Aaron Maybin. I think combine numbers are overrated, I prefer to look at tape. I think Orakpo isn’t very impressive on tape. It always seems like the tackles he beats are just terrible but I could be wrong.

Some guys that really look good on Youtube tape are:

1. C/G Alex Mack
2. DT BJ Raji
3. OLB Aaron Curry
4. DE Everette Brown
5. OLB Zach Follett
6. TE Chase Coffman
7. DT Jarron Gilbert
8. OLB Frantz Joseph

by buffaloboy90 on Mar 10, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curry and Mack

are two of my favorite guys in the draft… In fact, Curry is the number 1 guy on my board BY FAR. I’m contemplating is I can realistically advocate for trading up to get him… yeah, I like him that much!

John I.

by jri111 on Mar 10, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would cost our first this year...

and probably the first next year. No thanks. :-) He is an amazing player but he can’t be worth that much.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybin has A LOT of Red Flags

For a guy his size, he needs to have elite speed and quickness… and I just never saw that from him, and he has a long way to go when it comes to understanding how to defeat blockers one-on-one. Because it seemed to me whenever a lineman, or even a TE, got a hold of him, he was out of the play. If he doesn’t beat his guy at the beginning of the play he struggles to affect the play. I really have no clue why scouts are so high on him, perhaps the production? He measured in at the combine about 15 lbs heavier than his playing weight, and he paid for it when he ran his 40 yard dash. But that’s neither here nor there, I don’t put much value in the combine.

The things that concern me more is that people consider him a legitimate option at the 11th pick. He’s not the type of player that translates to the NFL unless he switches to OLB. Not to mention it’s foolish to draft a player so high that is so raw and unlikely to contribute as a rookie or even a sophomore.

The ONLY thing Maybin has to make his case is good production, but Cody Brown and Larry English were also phenomenal producers… and they are more NFL ready and have better measurables to boot. It seems like Penn State players get a lot of extra love on this board (could be wrong) and from scouts.

I will be very disappointed if the Bills draft Maybin, I’d rather wait until the 2nd round and just take a guy Brown or English or even Michael Johnson. If Orakpo and Everett Brown are gone when we pick we should simply take the best available player regardless of position, not Maybin.

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by ForeignArrow on Mar 9, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BPA - I like this idea - A LOT

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Mar 10, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too small and lean

he is a situational pass rusher in the NFL at best. He should have stayed in college at least another year. He was demoted for a reason before the Rose Bowl and that is not a good sign. Bad move to come out this year Maybin, – Maybin should have consulted better advice! LOL

The time to deliver is now and if you fail to do so you will no doubt witness the consequences first hand.

by Cutter3636 on Mar 10, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very good write up

I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts for a while, man- and you did not disappoint. I’d love to see another Penn Stater on the team, but I can understand why a lot of people would be wary of him. Picking him could backfire…but I see it being one of those things that may not make a quick impact, but would pay dividends later (a la a certain RB…you know, but he won’t whine his way out of town)

Cutter, I don’t know what you’re talking about with him getting demoted before the Rose Bowl. I do think he should’ve stayed another year, but I don’t think that his ceiling is lowered because he didn’t. Make no mistake- this kid can definitely play.

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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 10, 2009 2:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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