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Welcome to Buffalo T.O.

Hello Mr. Owens,

 

On behalf of four generations of Bills' Fans (my Granddad, my Dad, myself and my future kids) I would like to personally welcome you to the most resilient football family in the NFL.

 

Who knows, somehow you might actually end up reading this post and if that's the case, then I just want to thank you in the strongest way possible for coming to play for Buffalo.

 

We have a proud, steadfast heritage here and we're known for being extremely loyal to guys who give it everything they've got for our team both on the field and in the community.

 

With that being said, it seems to me that you've landed yourself in an especially perfect situation.  For example, when Curt Schilling went to Boston and ended their World Series drought...his tough, gritty performance became nothing less than a legend.

 

To be honest, you have that same opportunity here with the Bills, but to an even greater degree.  As I'm sure you're well aware, people all over the country are facing some particularly difficult circumstances these days and it can be a real stretch to figure out how to get the whole family out to see a ball game together.

 

Why would we do such a thing when everybody's lookin' to tighten their belts like never before?

 

Because sometimes, good memories are more important than money.

 

Case in point: after my folks got divorced I moved pretty far away from my father at a young age.  Even though he called at least once a week, we only got to see each other twice a year (once during the summer and then for a couple of days after Christmas).

 

Later on as I grew up, the one special gift that I wanted the most of all was to go to a Bills game with my Dad.  Of course, this cost more than just the price of  admission.  Even though Dad's budget wasn't that great, he'd work overtime at the chemical plant for Kodak and then he'd be able to kick in for plane tickets just so we could have nosebleed seats at the Ralph.

 

I didn't mind one bit.  More than anything, I just loved being out in the snow with 80,000 people all pulling for our guys with a playoff spot on the line.

 

Now you're one of our guys.  Yes, you've joined a Hall of Fame tradition along the lines of Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Marv Levy and Ralph Wilson.

 

And, you've joined the ranks of players like Kent Hull, Mike Lodish, London Fletcher and Steve Tasker...hard working guys who out-hustled everyone else just for the sheer love of the game.

 

Frankly, those are some the memories we cherish the most.  Perhaps it's sad that one of the best images we have as a family is when Don Beebe chased down Leon Lett from behind during the Super Bowl...not only to preserve our dignity, but also to give us something to hang our hats on.

 

Because no matter what, at the end of the day, those memories make it known that nobody can take away our ability to give an all out effort...and that is most certainly what we ask from you.

 

Not because you'd like to stick it to Dallas (although we're not above that at this point), and not because you're getting paid X number of dollars and maybe, just maybe not because you're playing to land a huge contract somewhere else next year.

 

Maybe, just maybe you'd be willing to take your prodigiously talented game to a whole other level because yes, if you won a Super Bowl with us, you would most certainly land in the Hall of Fame; but think about it like this...

 

My Dad's already made it into my Hall of Fame for going the extra mile so that we could share some memories that will most definitely last forever.

 

When Buffalo beat Houston in what still stands as the greatest NFL comeback ever, I remember picking him up in the air with this gigantic bear hug, and we jumped up and down all over together in a state of complete disbelief and total joy.

 

What I realize now is that my Dad didn't get tickets so we could see the game at the stadium, he paid to take a plane all the way out to Wisconsin just so we could watch the game together on TV. 

 

So, if it would be extra-memorable for you, I encourage you to make your time here in Buffalo truly special.  There's a lot to learn here from a group of fans who have essentially trademarked our ability to "Circle the Wagons."

 

Which, to be candid, is an experience that you seem to be familiar with and is something that our whole country needs to have an example of now more than ever.

 

So, if you want to ride of into the sunset with a community of people who will absolutely have your back from here on in, I recommend not only giving your all on every play, I also suggest that you leave the fancy touchdown dances in Dallas and do everything you can to celebrate with your teammates.

 

Nothing would win over the fans here in Buffalo more than by scoring a ton of points and then inspiring the rest of the guys on your squad to do the same. 

 

As you'll soon find out, we pride ourselves on being a blue collar kind of team that gets our recognition based on an unquestionable work ethic (something you exemplify) and our willingness to make sure that the whole group gets the credit.

 

That's our recipe for success in football and in life, and we're proud to pass on these values to our kids and hopefully to their kids as well.  You're part of that heritage now and we're trusting you to uphold it with respect.

 

With that being said, it's understandable that the community in Buffalo might want you to do things the way that we would do them if we were in your shoes...it seems to be human nature to say something like "we'd feel more comfortable if you were more like us."

 

It's also all too common for a new relationship to embody that old saying "I love you, you're perfect, now change."  Maybe we have as much to learn from you as you might have to learn from us.

 

Clearly you have a searingly intense passion to make plays and win games, while not being afraid to be outspoken if that what it takes to get the job done. 

 

Of course, if we really face the facts, neither one of us has won a title yet, so this could be the turning point where we all finally realize that "if we keep doing what we've always done, we're gonna get what we've always got."

 

Or in other words, "the best definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results."

 

Well, signing you is definitely something different and new, and I have a hunch that it's going to produce awesome and unexpectedly beneficial results for us all.

 

Now, some would say that bringing you on board here is a huge gamble, but I for one am willing to believe that the story can go something like this: have you ever met a guy who always went for the most popular girl and even though they had some good times together, neither of them was ever really, truly happy?

 

Then one day this man meets the kind of woman that isn't flashy, doesn't have a whole lot of money, glamor or fame, but is just plain solid? 

 

You know, the kind of woman that makes a good mother for your kids...the one who won't let you get away with being anything less than your best and then makes you feel like you can do absolutely anything as long as you stay together and give it everything you've got?

 

Well, maybe Buffalo is just that kind of place...and maybe you're just that kind of guy who's ready to settle down for a long run at something great...and maybe now's just the right time to put everything else aside and finally win a championship.

 

I'm sure you've thought about the Michael Jordan-Scottie Pippen comparisons you and Lee Evans could inspire.  Maybe you've also thought of taking your game beyond the world of sports and considered accomplishing something that moves people to achieve something during these tough times that they previously couldn't even imagine.

 

Seriously, you could do this in two simple ways: 1) by talking with Bills' fans in hospitals, homeless shelters, schools and factories about their favorite memories over the years and then by asking them what it would it would be like if the Bills won the big one and 2) You could take all this fuel, all this good will and all of their stories with you in a way that unites our guys on the field, binds our community with a common purpose and gives us the extra oomph needed to not only win the Super Bowl, but also to go the extra mile needed to win the real games of our lives (just like my Dad has done over all these years).

 

Then, when you're visiting the White House and the current President pulls you aside to thank you for being such a good example of perseverance and team success, you might find that the best memory of all comes from sharing the credit with the people who have truly become your family, your team and your life long friends.

 

With Hope and Gratitude,

 

Joshua Home Edwards

Bills' Fan for More than 25 Years

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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Man

Way to get me all fired up and teary eyed!

Great post, much appreciated!

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2009 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Man.........I dont know what all that was......but it was nice.

A person who performs good Karma (deeds) is always held in high esteem
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.

by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 9, 2009 4:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice read man!

Very well said, I hope TO gets to read it!

Your ability to control the LOS is directly linked to your ability to win football games!
FEED the BEAST!

by keysh67 on Mar 9, 2009 5:47 AM EDT reply actions  

That sums it all up.

nicely done.
I hope TO get to see this.

by jimkutica on Mar 9, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Well that came from the heart and was an excellent read this morning – thanks!

Are there any Paraguayans here? No... Well, of course, their request for subsities wasn't as paraguayanism as it were. The United States Government would never have if the president, Our President had not... and as far as I know that's the way it will always be. Is that Clear?"

by J2 on Mar 9, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

this is

exactly what being a Bills fan is all about. The stories, the human element, the relationships. We are all big dreamers cuz what else do we have? Results…no? Super Bowls….no? But now we have our T.O. If he takes us to the playoffs, T.O. will forever live in Buffalo lore.

MARVelous

by MARVelous on Mar 9, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Good post.....well done!!!!

You can’t let T.O. use your man berries as a chew toy!

by Joe P. on Mar 9, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Incredible post

Very touching letter written from the heart. That’s what Bills fans are about. Got me teary eyed.

Hope T.O. gets to read this.

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Mar 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

This was very touching. But I didn’t get teary eyed because I’m not a wuss.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 9, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha!

I second eric. Great read and touching but no tears from over here. You’re such a baby Kurupt!

All kidding aside, great letter, someone should get this to Terrell Owens.

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 9, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, having a sensitive side doesn’t mean we’re a wuss. You know, women like men who has a sensitive side ;)

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Mar 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Terrell Owens has a sensitive side too!

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 9, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNO6On7cK1M

Are there any Paraguayans here? No... Well, of course, their request for subsities wasn't as paraguayanism as it were. The United States Government would never have if the president, Our President had not... and as far as I know that's the way it will always be. Is that Clear?"

by J2 on Mar 9, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

good one

Does this video show that T.O. is actually a team player instead of the cancer whom people are calling him?

Bills fan half way around the world

by moncheri on Mar 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess my heart isn’t made of stone, unlike you guys apparently!

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 9, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the blog ProudOfMyDad

Great post.

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 9, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent Post, I also hope T.O. reads it!

I also want to add some numbers for the Bills faithful off of a Jason Cole article from yahoo sports. Generally in 1st year contract season’s with his former teams, here are some numbers that are encouraging to see………….and i quote from Jason Coles’s article……..

“So in five "prove-it" seasons: 433 catches, 6,598 yards, 71 touchdowns. The averages during those seasons: 86.6 catches, 1,319.6 yards, 14.2 touchdowns”.

I would be happy to see T.O. put up 75 catches, 1150 yards and 10 TD’s this season while seeing a more productive Lee Evans also put up similar numbers to T.O. in the process. And if the Bills made it to the Superbowl, and won it, It would be like a dream come true for all Bills fan (myself included).

by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Mar 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

why did my comment get erased just because i said this was a wierd post…theres no denying its a little strange i don’t think thats an offensive thing to say

"I'm going to talk to Mike and see what he has to say and see what he thinks he needs. But there are going to be some changes. What's that old song? 'There are going to be some changes made'? Frankly I forget the words beyond 'there are going to be some changes made.'" -Ralph Wilson, Jr.

by LONNIEJOHNSON on Mar 9, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

You swore. I’ve made it very clear on several occasions that profane comments will be deleted.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funniest thing I have ever seen right there!

by buffaloboy90 on Mar 9, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 10, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Owens' Ability

I’m a Cowboys fan, and I thought this would be as good a place as any to share my thoughts. I hope they’re welcome! =)

I would caution against expecting Terrell Owens to be the sort of dynamic receiver he has been in the past for the Bills. He severely declined this past year. I saw in another post the user Ft. Worth mentioned that Owens struggled with press coverage this year. This is absolutely correct.

I watched, week bye week, Owens struggle to get off jams no matter the quality of the opposing CB. Charles Woodson, Shawn Springs, Leon Hall, Roderick Hood, etc. His biggest games this year were when teams inexplicably gave him a free release, or when Tony Romo was able to scramble and afford him more time to get open.

For more on Owens’ decline, and what can be reasonably expected of him next year, I recommend reading an article by Bill Barnwell of the immaculate Football Outsiders here. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2009/done

by MavinClipsLand on Mar 9, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course your opinion is welcome!

Honestly, we don’t need T.O. to be the dynamic threat he’s been in the past. We just need him to be any threat. We’re a threatless offense. If T.O. even grabs 60 balls and 8 scores, he’s going to make life infinitely easier for Lee Evans. That’s all we ask.

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by Brian Galliford on Mar 9, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link

Don’t expect many here to agree with you. I have been one of a handfull that is very worried about the Bills signing T.O. I am the resident grinch ruining everyone’s party.

You can’t let T.O. use your man berries as a chew toy!

by Joe P. on Mar 9, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would take a "decline" of 1000 yards and 8 TDs anyday

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 10, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much will Owens give for number 81?

And what number will Hardy be?
Not that it really matters, just curious.

by dragonwag0n on Mar 10, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Owens can be tempermental

I don’t care how much he would give for the number or what Hardy will wear. When Owens is happy he’s fanominal. what you do is give him the number and shut up about it.

by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kid makes Pop proud

My son Joshua, the author of this post, in sharing our memory of The comeback, brings back my own memories when the Bills won the last AFL championship in 1965, also my senior year in high school. (I forgot they won in ‘64 and ’65). I remember WR Elbert Dubenion catching an 80 yard pass with less than a minute, maybe even the last play of the game to win a come from behind victory and Ernie Warhol, TE, with a Championship-cinching TD. I take my user name from a promising RB/WR who’s career was ended by a knee injury in his first year. If memory serves.

Joshua went from a 12 year old pudge to a toned and fit athlete who started at offensive tackle in high school and for a couple of years in DIII college football, training through the summers on his own. I never played outside of gym class except one pick up game in college (OT) where I got my bell rung after about three plays and that was it. For a few seconds I experienced what it’s like to think one thing and say something completely different.

I sometimes wonder if I would have remained a fan if Scott Norwood had made that FG. I always want the Bills to win the Super Bowl every year; that unattained goal, which most of the time felt like a burden, looks now like a marvelous 40+ year saga.

Congratulations Joshua, you done good.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 10, 2009 3:49 AM EDT reply actions  

like father, like son

you should be proud. Its rare to get such a well thought out and heartfelt post.

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 10, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

like father, like son

Thanks for that compliment. Especially from a guy who puts much careful work into analyzing the offensive line.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially from a guy who puts much careful work into analyzing the offensive line.

That would actually be Ron from NM, who is the resident o-lineman specialist. But I appreciate the kind sentiment regardless.

"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM

by poz on Mar 10, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would actually be Ron from NM

Oops! Thanks for the correction.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 11, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I ask you something?
I sometimes wonder if I would have remained a fan if Scott Norwood had made that FG

Are you saying you are no longer a fan or you may not have followed them as strongly if they had won it all? If you are no longer a fan, how come???

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 10, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well expressed and sincere

Joshua, I think you captured the sentiments of most of Bills nation with this post. The total effort down-after-down, the “never say die” attitude, the excitement of proving the doubters wrong (especially the national media), is what makes it great to experience the NFL as a Bills fan.

Thanks for sharing.

Get the Bills back to the big game!

by Blitz on Mar 10, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Can I ask you something?

When I first became a Bills fan, I felt winning was the only thing. When the Bills tanked before the Super Bowl years, each win became something to savor and it seemed like the Bills would usually play well in our division. After losing four straight SBs, being a Bills fan was such a strange mixture of excellence and failure, I felt the football gods had a special interest in us. The Bills small d Dynasty. How the Bills won or lost became more interesting and with the Internet, more information sparked more curiosity. Sharing the Bills with Joshua added another dimension.

I’m still a fan, if that answers your question more directly. Thanks for the question, Kurupt, that gave me a chance to mull over some of those thoughts and feelings in depth. I came for the wins but stayed to lurk at Buffalo Rumblings.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 10, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the response

Hope you keep posting, adding your interesting takes on the past…

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 10, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you keep posting, adding your interesting takes on the past

I’m glad you liked the post. The phrase " How the Bills would like one now!" could be uttered at any time or in any conversation with one of Joshua’s maternal uncle and it was the rough equivalent of “High five!”
today. How the Bills would like one now. Indeed.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 12, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

this is what its all about

dads, kids, sports, loyalty and tthe love of the game

by freddyjj on Mar 10, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Your post

Great, great post. I really enjoyed that. Thank you for posting this.

Why not Bobby April?

by nickdaniels on Mar 10, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

yo nick

whats with ur pic about?

by billsstein on Mar 10, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

i figured it out. hes a phoenix suns fan. my fraternity’s mascot is the phoenix and a lot of us use that picture lol i thought it would be crazy if he was in it too

by billsstein on Mar 11, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Dad!!!

It friggin’ ROCKS to see such a strong response to what we’ve both written. Thanks everybody for being so cool.

And, I gotta say that because of the experience of writing all these thoughts down, I’m starting to appreciate the Bills on a whole new level.

Like you said, Dad, win or lose, the Bills have been an immense part of our family for generations.

I remember Mom telling me stories about how Grandpa Valentine threw the TV off the balcony after a bad game and I also can’t help but break into a great big smile when ever I think of how you completely lost your voice during the first quarter of the Falcons game where Mike Vick scored on a bootleg from around the 12 yard line.

You just about went berserk screaming for the Defense and I felt like I was 10 feet tall wearing a t-shirt that read “That’s MY Dad!!!”

So, thanks again to everyone for taking this walk down memory lane with us.

What are some of your favorite Bills’ stories?

The World's Greatest Heroes are Always Unsung

by ProudofMyDad on Mar 11, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?
I remember Mom telling me stories about how Grandpa Valentine threw the TV off the balcony after a bad game

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

you completely lost your voice during the first quarter of the Falcons game where Mike Vick scored on a bootleg from around the 12 yard line.

I had a splitting headache after the game and no way to complain about it. Still, the remembrance of that day is nice, as I don’t experience that headache pain, but a whiff of the euphoria remains.

" Catch 22, that's some catch.
It's thje best one there is."

by rogerkochman on Mar 12, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember that game...

We were living in Chicago and had gone to WI camping for the weekend. I made my wife get up at like 6am so we could get back to delilah’s to watch the game with all the faithful from WNY. I was sure they would win that week, and they laid that egg….. That was the last time I was able to drag my wife out of bed at 6am to drive for 6 hours to watch the game after that.

by LanceinDE on Mar 12, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, that's funny

I get upset also. I still remember the Buffalo / Cleveland where Kelly threw the interception in the endzone. I was so upset, i wanted Kelly traded, threw the couch pillow at the T.V. and well, the air was blue to say the least. Everyone remember when the bills came out with the Brick that was made out of spounge material? I have used that often to throw at the T.V. and other people…….LOL.

by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Mar 12, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are some of your favorite Bills’ stories?

My dad was never a big sports guy, (unless you count hunting and fishing) so I don’t have any about me and my dad, unless you count watching the super bowl and him turning to me and saying, “When is the seventh inning stretch?”

My best memory is October 19, 2003 Bills vs. Redskins.

The Bills were handling the skins pretty well, but the game was still close. Then Patrick Ramsey got hurt and had to leave the game. In came Rob Johnson. It was either his first or second snap and in typical RJ fashion, he held the ball to long and Schobel came around the end and sacked him. That was the absolute loudest I have ever heard a stadium. Ever.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 11, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

That. Is. Funny.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was one of the few games I was at in the last 5 years....

but that was an amazing moment, the stadium was absolutely going nuts….. I still carry that play with me in my head for when I need shot of good bills Karma.

by LanceinDE on Mar 12, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously.

From what I understand, Grandpa heaved that sucker so far it landed in a swimming pool down below.

What can I say, we’re intense about the Bills.

The World's Greatest Heroes are Always Unsung

by ProudofMyDad on Mar 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey ProudofMyDad...

If you hit reply on the message you are replying to it will thread right underneath my comment, making it easier to follow a dialouge between two people or continue a though.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 11, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

Now how do I include something from your post in one of my own (like sireric’s up above)?

The World's Greatest Heroes are Always Unsung

by ProudofMyDad on Mar 11, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

(like sireric’s up above)?

Cut and paste what you want in the box. then highlight it and click the “quote marks” icon between the chain link and the strike out and it will be block quoted.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

by sireric on Mar 11, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem!

Playing Eternal Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on Mar 12, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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