Your Opinions on TO
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 9, 2009 11:04 PM EDT
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I completely understand why people are concerned about signing T.O. He has reportedly been a cancer in multiple locker rooms. If it's the same story on multiple teams...the guy is clearly a problem. However, Buffalo has been 7-9 for three straight seasons, hasn't made the playoffs in a decade, and is arguably on the brink of moving to Canada. Not to mention they haven't won a Superbowl. Needless to say, it is my opinion that Buffalo needed to "shake things up". T.O. would be the guy that shakes things up. Adding TO might help or it might not. But what exactly is the risk Buffalo is taking? In order for something to be risky, there has to be something valuable to lose. My question to you is: what are the Bills risking by signing T.O. and is it significant?
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huh – who would have thought? Is it on the news or a web site anywhere?
I’ll post anything if I find it Zumone
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by J2 on Mar 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been said on 2 948 572 other thread so I might as well repeat it here
The Bills have NOTHING to lose here. Nothing.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 9, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
nothing to lose at all. Stir up the pot – let’s make it interesting!!! At first i thought OH KNOW!!! Now I hear that every team TO has been on, his first year was his BEST. So what the heck, why not?? How long has it been since we were in the postseason?? 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!!
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by Cutter3636 on Mar 10, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually they do...
Owens at the end of ‘09. I guess i’m probably in the minority here in wishing they find a way to make it work and work out for 2-3 years. I’d love it if he became the catapult for their playoff quest, and think that they’d reward him for his contribution and he them by resigning.
I do realize we need to get through this season first. I just don’t like thinking of this as a 1-year bandaid. What then? Hardy and Johnson will not scare anyone the way Owens will. He can physically destroy defensive backfield players.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 10, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't need to work for 2-3 years...
It needs to work for the length of his one year contract.
By then, Hardy and Johnson could develop into studs. WRs develop into good route runners and smart players. They don’t come in that way.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my thing is that I want to see him as a Bill for more than 1 season. I really think he could surprise people with his attitude.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 10, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is successful, a lot of people will want him to stick around.
No diggity, no doubt.
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 10, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'M with you AfghanTwilight
I would LOVE it if we could resign TO for an extra year or two. If he can keep his attitude in semi-check (lets be honest, he’ll never be in total control of himself) but if he fits well I would love to keep him around for a few more seasons.
But it’s not a necessity. If Hardy and Johnson develop, then we don’t need him and we let him go, if they’re developpment is slower than anticipated, we bring him back for another year or two. Once agan there isn’t much to lose if we really want to win.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This does seem like a one year bandaid at first glance. However, one could argue that Terrell Owens will help younger receivers such as James Hardy and Steve Johnson develop. Thus, this is a longterm bandaid. perhaps a surgery?
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 10, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its fitting that the Canadian bills fan says this. hahaha
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 10, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
for the record, I don’t want the Bills to move to Toronto, the Bills belong in Buffalo and thats where they should stay.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto is a HORRIBLE football town anyways
if the NFL really want to move the Bills to Canada, they should look at a real football town like Montreal and the Olympic stadium (67 000 capacity), but thats an even more ridiculous notion than the bills moving to toronto, so forget i even mentioned it.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 11, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, here we go
Owens has the most to lose, he NEEDS the Bills to rehab his image as a player. DJ is really feeling the flames after Ralph let him twist a bit at the end of the season, and he and his staff understand that this is their last chance to get a winning season, maybe even playoff bound season in the book before they get canned.
IF DJ failed without Owens, he would be gone with a large number of other players as a new staff came in. If he fails WITH Owens on the field, same situation occurrs again, new staff, new players. He has NOTHING to lose at this point, his job is on the line, so why not roll the dice that Owens can help us out and maybe save his job.
Onus is on Trent and Turk now, you boys better be ready to roll. Note to Trent- go visit TO wherever he is right now, bring all the other WRs along with you (ask Lee to pay, he has the cash) and spend a week or two just chucking the ball and talking football. This will pay off big time for you later. Oh yeah, and once TO is at OBD full time practicing, get there at the same time he does, or earlier, and work out just as hard as he does, EARN his respect off the field, and he will return it to you on the field.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Mar 10, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice side note.
ask Lee to pay, he has the cash
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by MattRichWarren on Mar 10, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't know
why Terrell Owens continues to get blamed for the Cowboys not living up to expectations. The media loves creating controversy around the guy because Donovan McNabb was a bad leader and couldn’t handle him. McNabb – TO is like Kobe- Shaq. Everyone blamed Kobe but when you look back it was clearly because Shaq is selfish. TO lost his temper on the sidelines and was a eccentric but he WAS NOT responsible for the Cowboys not living up to expectations. Romo running around being a celeb, Garrett being the most overpaid assistant coach ever, the defense going through spells of being dominant and then being awful, Jerry Jones acting like Donald Trump. Dallas not living up to expectations was not TOs fault.
if you dont believe me look at what ESPN is already doing. I recorded NFL Live, Jim Rome, Around the Horn and PTI just to see what they had to say and guess what?!? they are all ready brewing up and creating a TO problem when there has been no time for it to even develop. They are saying that him and Lee Evans are going to have a problem because they are both number one receivers. Wow, talk about grasping at straws, all four programs made mention of this. Boldin and Fitz seem to do fine. I love how the national media always puts down the Bills for lacking playmakers and then they have two, a situation they would flower the Giants or Cowboys with roses about, but in Buffalo having two outstanding receivers is immediately a problem.
The only distraction to get over in a one year deal with TO is the national media trying to create TO vs. Blank scenarios. They are starting with Lee Evans. Quite frankly, its silly.
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by poz on Mar 10, 2009 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It all goes towards one thing: RATINGS.
Whether we like it or not, news programms and sports programms no longer run relevant or accurate news anymore, they run whatever it is they think will bring in the most viewers so they can please their sponcers. It like “TO had a BIG problem in Philly,” no doubt, “it braught in HUGE ratings. So lets recreate that problem in Dallas. Now he’s with the Bills, lets create that problem before its there that way we bring in more ratings.” It’s sad an pathetic all at the same time. No wounder i take most of my news from the internet and not on tv.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sincerely hope that DJ just institutes a media blackout for the team
And just sits them all down, points out that the media is just going to invent s^$t to get ratings, and that everyone should keep their mouths shut and ignore them. Once the media can’t get a grasp on anything, they will either walk away (unlikely) or start complaining bitterly that the Bills seem to be ignoring them, taking the issue away from TO and putting it on the FO and DJ, so that none of this outside crap can bug the players.
I really hope DJ goes into overdrive running intereference for his players this year. I want ALL of their attention on the field, not elsewhere. Also, I think the media WANTS the controversy so they can have a self-fulfilling prophecy by claiming that TO will destroy the Bills, and then by constantly attacking the Bills and Owens by extension they can cause it to happen and then claim “I told you so”. I just want DJ to ban the outside media and let our boys play ball.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Mar 10, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Media black for the whle team is unlikely
midea balckout for the whole team except Owens, much more likely. People seem to forget that TO has to the media to shove it on more then one occasion, he just goes about it more politly then Barry Bonds does. The media has a hate/love relationship with TO, they hate him, but they love to cover him. So let them cover him, but on the team’s terms. Only send TO out when it’s needed as to not fuel the fire but stop the reporters heads from exploding (although that wouldn’t be a bad thing either). Besides, I doubt TO would sit well with being blacked out, but if he can concentrate on his game and only let the sideshow out once per week or less, i’d be cool with that.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree completely Poz and Canadianbillsfan
When have you ever seen Evans complain??? and he’s had several reasons too in the past.. TO may want the ball more throughout the year, but i can’t see evans saying.. and if they are winning this is all mute… winning cures all!!
by Shovel51 on Mar 10, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, if Evans were to see less passes because of Owens, it wouldn’t be a new development. He’s used to it already because the D has no reason to defend anyone else. I see no way Evans lets this development ruffle his feathers.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 10, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's because ESPN loves to hate TO.
A well-behaved TO does nothing for them. Zip, zilch, nada. No news is bad news. They need the controversy for ratings, they need it to justify sending reporters out on TO watch. And once they find that little spark they blow it wide open and try and jam it down our throats like only ESPN can and mold the facts to what they want to be factual.
Just look at the TO DROPS ALL PASSES thing. Yes, he drops a lot of passes but he also catches a lot more. This past season he caught 88% of the catchable passes thrown his way. Up and coming hotshot Dwayne Bowe only caught 86, Brandon Marshall 89, Calvin Johnson 89, Roddy White 90, Moss 92%. If you’re a deep threat you’re going to drop a handful of passes. The only guys who catch everything are the over the middle / short range guys who aren’t running parallel to the pass, like Welker , and Larry Fitzgerald because he’s not human. (Andre Johnson is 1/10 human with his 5 drops.)
by twoeightnine on Mar 10, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if Andre is even 1/10 human man
He is more like in the 1/16 range. He and Fitz might be the two best WRs on the planet right now. Both are just nightmares to handle.
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
by WABillsfan on Mar 10, 2009 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets just hope
they may find that same TO story tired and decide that a Cinderella – redemption story is more palatable to their viewers
"Gooood…..let the apathy take root…" - Ron from NM
by poz on Mar 10, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Tha might come around… on TO’s third controversy free season in Buffalo…. maybe.
I see the media’s opinion on TO as beng the same they have on Barry Bonds: They’ve already condemned him, worngfully so, and they wont change their stance, no matter what he does.
by CanadianBillsFan on Mar 10, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must not watch ESPN
the only Cinderella stories they like involve death or drugs.
by twoeightnine on Mar 10, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pundits have all the answers, don’t they? The best thing we fans can hope for is the Bills as an organization take this “bullying” and drop it out the back door.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Mar 10, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You tell um Poz
The only thing you forgot to say is, “when we win the superbowl ya’ll gana look like a bunch of idiots”.
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Responses from Everyone
I think it’s important to note that the Buffalo Bills organization is trying to win football games. I think TO’s signing is an indication of this. And quite frankly, that is enough for me. I’ve always liked the “us against the world” battle. I think that’s the type of battle the Bills are in right now.
People think Dick Jauron is too quite, Marshawn smokes to much weed, Ralph Wilson is cheap, TO will ruin the locker room, ect.
However, the bottom line is that if you can get a group of people committed to achieve a common goal through hard work you can do just about anything. I see leadership on this Bills team and I see people who want to win. Dick Jauron is a leader, Trent Edwards is a leader, Paul Posluszny. The list goes on and on. And although TO may seem arrogant…the guy wants to win and everyone on the team will respect that.
by buffaloboy90 on Mar 10, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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