Conflicting reports on potential Peters trade continue
Last week, ESPN.com AFC East reporter Tim Graham reported that the Buffalo Bills and OT Jason Peters remained at a contract impasse, and that the Bills were no closer to trading the disgruntled left tackle than to signing him. The report suggested the possibility that the Bills - long believed to be in a "sign him or ship him" limbo - might end up holding onto Peters through the 2009 NFL Draft, dealing with his likely holdout and letting Peters' 2008 season repeat itself next season.
Last night, Mike Lombardi of The National Football Post appeared on NFL Network's Total Access - and offered a slightly different take on the Peters situation.
Asked to give a percentage likelihood that Peters would be traded, Lombardi responded with "75 percent". He mentioned the aforementioned contract impasse, the Bills' willingness to entertain trade conversations to avoid a repeat of 2008, and stated that the team could expect a No. 1 draft pick "and some other things happening" in return for Peters.
Lombardi also confirmed that Peters is seeking an annual salary in the eight figures, accurately calling his contract demands the key to any trade involving Peters. Finally, he mentioned one team - the Philadelphia Eagles - as potential suitors for Peters.
Clearly, the two reports conflict on likely outcomes, though they're clearly consistent in most of the details. For the record, Graham confirmed his theory that Peters would ultimately stay with the Bills last night on Bills Fan Radio. (And if you listen to the show, you might recognize the guest that preceded Graham on the program.)
Eleven days and change
With the 2009 NFL Draft eleven days away, the clock continues to tick on the Peters situation, as most following the story as it develops believe the Bills will make a move either way by the end of draft weekend. Each day that passes is another day where the Bills lack definition at their most critical offensive line position as well as in their draft-day strategical plans.
Consider this your daily obligatory "Jason Peters speculation open thread". Which of the conflicting reports are you inclined to side with?
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You HAD to go and start another Peters argument?
I trust Tim Graham, but I just can’t see the Bills forking over $12 million a season for Peters.
I think what it all will come down to is the question – IS there a team that will give Peters $12 million? If so, I see him being traded away.
If NOT, then I see Peters coming down in his demands and the Bills meeting him halfway, maybe $9-10 million a year with incentives built in.
The Bills aren’t going to cave in, either Peters comes down in his demands or they unload him.
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Well, you’re always saying that a Peters discussion is more interesting than any other discussion at this point, right? As Stewie Griffin would say, “This one’s for you.” :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And these are the Days of Our Lives....
Jeesh….never ends. What kills me about this guy is HE NEVER SPEAKS publicly. Apparently it’s a brilliant move, cuz it seems to be working. The Bills are forced to act. With so much riding on 2009, the Bills Must find a LT and LG that can be a formidable force to lead this offensive unit to open up run lanes and give Trent time. I mean it’s the most imperative aspect of adding T.O., developing Hardy/Johnson, and possibly a rookie TE…we have to have an OL in tact.
If Detroit or Philly, or whomever offers a 1st round pick, I think the Bills must jump on it. If not, I’m in the camp of leave your contract offer of whatever it was/is on the table and move on without him.
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Leverage
Peters has no leverage, he never has and he won’t win this struggle. I firmly believe that unless some team offers up a Cutler’s Ransome, then Peters will remain a Bill; an unhappy, unmotivated, sulking Bill. I am fine with that, let him destroy his career, he can’t keep doing this every year and the Bills could theoretically keep him until he is 31 years old (4 more years), which is what I would do if he doesn’t report to OTAs/Camp. He will change his mind and be a better player for it. It will come.
by NorCal BillsFan on Apr 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
I have, and will continue, to respectfully disagree with the notion that Peters has no leverage. On any other team, that theory is fine. With this team, one that is as desperate as any I’ve ever seen to put a winning product on the field, Peters has more leverage than people are willing to admit. The Bills cannot and likely won’t let the 2008 scenario (i.e. holdout) repeat. They can’t – they’re playing for their jobs.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree w the coaching staff is in win now mode, but we proved last year Peters will cave in because he cannot afford to sit out or come into another season ill-prepared.
Question for you Brian, not to get off the topic, but lets assume we do have another 7-9 year. Does Jauron and staff get fired (minus April, if we could pull that one off)? Will Ralph take on paying out Jaurons contract and another coach? I believe that is the reason why Jauron was retained. I have never seen some many quality coaches looking for jobs.
I answered that exact question in the radio appearance I made last night if you care to take a listen. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
well done
I did listen, good job.
Is there are truth behind the rumors that the majority of the upper hands at OBD wanted to fire Jauron at the end of the season but Ralph did not want to have to pay Jaurons contract out that he signed mid year? That whole situation was shady.
I have absolutely no idea if those “rumors” – which I myself have never heard – are true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I would lean toward no, though.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you say he has no leverage?
He is dictating the #11 pick in the draft. Buffalo should be using it to get better on defense but instead is forced to use it to replace Peters…..or go with Chambers at LT.
good going buffalo
i would like to thank lynch,whitner and simpson for making it easier for me to not get my hopes up this year for a playoff run once again and the thought of giving up peters is just ridiculous because all of these haters are not seeing the entire picture the guy made the pro bowl bottom line and did not even attend any offseason programs the man is a beast and young at that the bills have the money anyway they gave hangartner money and peters is way better than him and is of the top five in his position if not the best yeah he gave up sacks but look at the line he had to work no help at all and when i comes to running the ball he can knock any one off of there feet and if he gets in to training this year he will be a monster and plus edawards needs him
if he gets in to training this year
You sprinted right past the main issue, though. Just ran right on by. What makes you think that if nothing changes on this situation that Peters will magically show up to camp?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we believe in the Easter Bunny
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 14, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
So if the Bills do not sign Jason Peters to a contract extension within the next 11 days, then he will no longer be on the Bills’ roster. Period.
If the Bills can’t get anything in return for Peters, they will cut him. Or get a 4th round draft pick, which is essentially the same thing. Excuse me, I have to vomit.
Losing one of your best players at a premium position for chump change in return. Just wonderful.
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
How did Brian say any of those things?
In no way will we cut him for nothing. I don’t get the argument you are trying to make other than the “worst possible scenarios”….
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Bills can only manage to get a 4th round draft pick for Peters,
then they are basically cutting him, in my opinion.
“Honestly, folks, I can’t repeat this enough: the Peters situations comes down to this – they’ll sign him within the next two weeks, or he’ll be gone by the time the draft is over.”
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/7/825477/thoughts#13796033
Great plays don't make great players; great players make great plays.
You’re putting words in my mouth. They won’t cut him, and they won’t trade him for a single draft pick lower than the first round. He’s too valuable for that to happen – and the further his trade compensation plummets, the more teams will get involved. You’re taking the pessimistic angle to the extreme, and it’s just never going to get that far.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo won’t cut Peters. I’m sure Wilson believes in the power of spite. If he’s going to screw the team I can see the team screwing him right back.
Exactly Why He Won't Get Traded
unless we get a crazy offer from someone…1st/2nd/3rd or something like that…Peters is FAR TOO valuable to trade for less. I think people are making too much out of this holdout stuff.
by NorCal BillsFan on Apr 14, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
But only if he shows up.
He is worth nothing to us or anybody else if he’s sitting at home.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 15, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Are periods not part of your big picture?
But I digress….
They gave Hangartner some money, yes. They did not give him anywhere near $12M a season. He undeservedly made the Pro Bowl. You can say he made the Pro Bowl and that’s all that matters but to me it’s not all that matters. He was not one of the top 3 OTs last season in the AFC.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
try saying that without taking a breathe…lol
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 14, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
or breath – way to make a point J2
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 14, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job there Rickey Henderson!!!
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One of the questions that probably needs to be asked is, “If OBD actually wants to trade Peters, what is the optimal timing for that trade?” Clearly the Bills want to get the maximum value for Peters. Can that value be realized now . . . or do Bills fans have to wait until Draft Day? Also, if the 1st Round reaches its end without a deal being struck, do you think that will be the end of the trade possibilities, or will OBD still have trade options they can pursue in the 2nd Round?
by mattwill on Apr 14, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
optimal timing...
before the draft so they can re-formulate their draft board.
If it goes until the end of the first round (which I don’t think it will) a deal could still be had for Peters involving a 2009 second rounder plus more 2009 picks and including possible 2010 picks. The Bills staff does not want to negotiate with 2010 picks though. They are playing for 2009.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m skeptical about the ‘75%’. That seems like speculation on Lombardi’s part based on what we know. It doesn’t sound like he knows anything more than you or I.
Until there’s a firm report saying the Bills are taking offers or offers are being made for Peters I’m not going to get too worked up about anything.
P-P-Peters
I truly wish the Bills and Peters could come to a mutual agreement that would leave both sides happy and they would click there heels and everything would be wonderful. The Bills have been trying to piece together a competent O-Line for what seems like an eternity—-free agents, a no#4 overall in the draft, conversions (Peters & Murphy) and late round picks that haven’t developed. I hate the idea that the Bills have a pro-bowl LT in their locker room and are being forced into a trade.
A trade seems inevitable which at this point it seems to me that it is addition by subtraction—-getting rid of a malcontent that doesn’t want to play in Buffalo. The biggest problem is that the Bills have shown more futility then smarts when it comes to drafting players or signing FA’s. If the Bills get a 1 & 3 will they be able to do anything with the picks to make the team better or will we end up with the Tim Anderson’s, Chris Ellis’s and McCargo’s of the draft.
I heard this rumor—-can anyone confirm or re-butte it.——Peters agent is trying to structure any new contract so that Peters will always be one of the highest paid LT’s in football. Obviously, if this is true this would be a major stumbling block for any contract.
I don't know how you could guarantee something like that....
unless you insert a clause that voids the contract if he’s not one of the top 10 LTs in the league. I don’t know any team who would agree to that contract.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems to boil down to
his contract (duh, I guess). The Bills aren’t going to magically say, “OK, now we’ll pay you a go-zillion doallars to play here.” So it’s probably more dependent upon finding someone willing to pay him. It’s tough to fathom anyone doing it, there are some pretty good tackles available in the draft. It’s going to take some very specific extenuating circumstances for a trade to happen: a team would have to have a big need for a tackle, a lot of cap, and the picks to ammo up for the trade. Houston, Detroit, Philly, Baltimore, Pittsburgh? No one really seems to fit…. which is why there is no reliable info on potential suitors for Peters… because teams are probably calling Eugene Parker and hanging up on him.
"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
because teams are probably calling Eugene Parker and hanging up on him.
I totally pictured that scene from 40 Year Old Virgin when Andy calls Trish the first time, and as soon as she picked up he hung up.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
But seriously, if you are either of them (Peters or Parker)…. are you saying you want that much so you fall somewhere in between during negotiations or are they just that greedy/dumb?
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently they have not budged a single cent from their initial offer.
so I don’t see the “fall somewhere in between” thing happening much. That is what is so frsutrating. They apparently are that greedy or he is demanding a trade without saying “I want to be traded.”
I’d like to talk to you about laundry detergent…..
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Graham said last night that the two sides have “exchanged proposals”. I highly doubt that Parker kept sending the Bills the same proposal, but it clearly hasn’t changed much.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think we should give him a Haynesworth deal.
The posion pill deal if you will…
6 years, $72M total.
First five years average out to be $10M per while the last year has a $10M salary with a $12M roster bonus. He looks like the highest paid LT in the game but it’s really only a 5 year, 50M deal like Jordan Gross got because he would be restructured or cut before that $12M roster bonus needed to be paid.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Poison pill?
We aren’t trying to sign him away from some other team!!
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Just the big roster bonus.
It’s a clause in the contract that makes it hard to swallow and thus voided at a certain stage. I understand you’re thinking of the Minnesota poison pill.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 15, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I still like the idea of you deal, but I think Peters actualy want 12M per year, not just the appearance of 10M per year.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 14, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker – “Here’s today’s offer on behalf of Mr. Peters.”
Brandon – “This is the same offer as yesterday? We went up another half a million dollars a year in our latest proposal!”
Park – “Indeed, and if you see fit to come up any higher, my client has agreed to provide you with the exact same offer tomorrow.”
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It's sad...
and probably true. :-)
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This needs to happen before the draft
Not during draft day, and not after.
Pay him or trade him, but make it happen in the next week. We can’t let one guy drag the team down AGAIN.
One thing that bothers me most about this is… if we sign him to a big contract, I’m going to have a hard time rooting for him as a Buffalo Bill after what he has done to this team 2 years in a row. I will have a very hard time supporting a greedy, ignorant moron. Period.
If I can root for TO I can root for pretty much anyone in a Bills uniform, even the current hideous uniform.
I agree with you on that...
I have no problem rooting for anyone in a Bills uni…
It’s not hideous. It can’t be worse than the power slug on the Sabres jersey.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, it's hideous
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the helmets, and I like the blue tops. I hate the white tops and both sets of pants. Have always liked the black cleats.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Black cleats are great
especially with the throwbacks.
I wish we’d go back to the early 90’s unis, maybe bring back a little mojo with them….
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I like the Electric Blue, 1970’s unis, and the 1980’s white helmet with the current blue logo, I think that would make a killer uniform.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 14, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The helmet is
awesome because it was the only thing they didn’t change. I just hate the Navy blue and the design. Our throwbacks should be the 90’s jerseys, not the standing Buffalo. Even if they just changed the standing Buffalo to the charging one… that would be sweet.
Anyways
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
we have to remember
we played pretty well w/ out peters in the lineup. And lest be honest hes was not one of the top 7 tackles in the league last year. And yes he has alot of potential. I do not believe him sitting out would be that much of a distraction.
If the Bills re-sign Peters
The Bills better be worried…
1) Will he have the competitive fire to excell
2) Will he take the money and run
3) Will he turn into another Mike “Lard ass, pizza snorting, crybaby” Willams
4) Remember he had talent in college and was a 3rd to 4th round projection——all teams passed on him——-Why—- —-because there were attitude problems!!
It's ok to lack direction now
the each day…yada yada…is a lil over the top…
i’m sure they have contingency plans for any scenario that unfolds…
there is minimal value to rushing a decision here that will effect the team for years to come
i’m sure they have contingency plans for any scenario that unfolds…
If you’re comfortable with the team operating on half-plans and developing forty contingencies this close to the draft, that’s fine. I am not.
You’re right in that there isn’t a rush – but that’s only for another week or so.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
Would you rather discuss another mock draft? Or perhaps who was better, Flutie or Johnson?
This is a huge decision the Bills will likely be making over the next 10 days, if there’s anything to talk about, its this.
I’m sure the Bills have a figure they won’t exceed and feel Peters is worth, and are just seeing if Peters will drop to that point before the draft. If not, he’s gone, and they’re going to maintain (like Graham reported) that they are intending on signing him so as not to give Parker any leverage.
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contingency plan
Their contingency plan is when in doubt draft a DB—-it has worked so well in the past!!
Ron—-I agree on the uniforms, ugly is a kind word. They are way too busy and look like they belong in a beer ball league. At least they could wear the white pants with the blue jersey’s instead of that funky blue on blue!!! I wish they would just go back to the classic look of the 60’s up until the latest——I would go to the white helmet with the charging Buffalo.
I think there is a curse on the current uniy’s—they’ve sucked since they started wearing them!!!!! Time for a change…..
Practice Unis
Those would be pretty sweet compared to the multi-blue hued ones currently endured by the Bills.
I think the most important thing we learned today is....
that Brian finally hit puberty. Good job there, buddy! You sounded much more confident and of age this time! Just joking, but I enjoyed that interview you did, and again very nice work.
It’s too bad those guys felt the need to almost bad mouth you afterwards. They sure didn’t seem very flexible with their opinions, that’s for sure.
The guy at the end was pretty um, excitable, I guess you could say….
~K
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You sounded much more confident and of age this time! Just joking, but I enjoyed that interview you did, and again very nice work.
No, K, I was the first guest. You were listening to Tim Graham.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I know
followed by Graham, and then some crazy guy.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
That was Matt McGuire of WalterFootball. I’ll be on BFR next week with him as well.
All I meant was that it must have been the cell I was on, because I’m still pre-pubescent.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter's Play
I realize the experts feel that Peters is just about the best young LT, but I just don’t see it on the field. A good/solid LT, but is he really a franchise LT? Certainly , he was a disaster last year, and his prior years were promising because of his (lack of) experience level and potential. I say the Bills trade him soon and move on quickly.
Can the Bills negotiate the contract to his liking
And then still dangle him as trade bait on draft day? This at least will give potential suitors less hassle and the knowledge of what he will cost them if they want him.
It seems clear Peters isn’t “at the end of his career and looking for a winner”
he doesn’t want out, just more money…so to me, they should give him the money, still try to trade him, and if nothing happens….eat the contract and pay the man, while at least being able to play the player on their line. Get him signed now, and there is no holdout and he might actually be pro-bowl caliber….
The Bills CAN win every game
No problem.
Let him play out his contract the way it is now, draft the best o-lineman we can this year and if he can play LT either this year or the next move Peters back to the right side. We are going to have to replace him soon enough anyways (he certainly isn’t going to sign here long term) so lets find someone to groom for his position. Peters will have to play well the next couple of years or he will have no bargaing power when we cut him loose. One player shouldn’t be able to cause so much angst for a team.
Short-term deal?
I’m the type to cut off a nose to spite a face, so I have really opposed paying Peters max money thus far, but this is just incredibly frustrating.
I’m assuming he really hasn’t given OBD anything but 6 years/$13 mil per, but what about giving Peters a 1-2 year deal at $13 mil per?
This addresses our “win now” mentality without crippling us in the financial long-term if Peters busts. It keeps Peters motivated as he’s playing for his next contract. It gives Peters the max money he’s been looking for!
If this could possibly happen, I’d totally do it.
you're forgetting something critical
peters is being told that anything less than 8 digits for more than five years is undercutting him. regardless of the fact that no one on these boards will make a hundredth of that in their lifetime, peters will never sign a deal like that.
something i’d love to see: peters sits out a few games, but whoever sits in for him actually does a decent job (i know, that’s like hoping that josh reed has a 1000-yard receiving season, could happen but i really doubt it)…and keeps their spot once peters rolls back into buffalo due to jason’s poor conditioning at that point. what probably WILL happen is that jauron will worship the ground peters walks on, and peters will allow another 12 or 13 sacks this season.
DUDE
Your first post here, and you are already my favorite. Nine hundred MILLION points for your avatar.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and here i thought it was because i said something good....
sure you didn’t mean OVER NINE THOUSAND points?
by the_prophet on Apr 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Mother F***ing Peters
Is blocking out letters while cursing allowed? Sorry Brian if it is not.
Someone will give up a 1st and a 3rd for Peters come draft day. Especially if their is a run early on OT in which both Smith’s and Monroe are gone. The wild card is Andre Smith and whether he will be a top ten pick. Since Oher is the only other 1st round quality tackle (some predict a RT at that), teams will start to make the offers we are looking for. Some teams are hoping that all the mess with Andre Smith will allow him to slide.
Do you guys think that potential trade offers will depend on the Tackles remaining?
Or do you think something will be done prior to the draft?
I'm sorry, why is Peters worth a first round pick?
Besides his marginal performance as a pass blocker, he will want a ton of money from whoever picks him up.
As a Lions fan [yeah there are a few of us] I would be against anything more than a 2010 fourth rounder for this guy.
But to answer your question, Peters value would likely hinge on how the LTs run in the draft. If Oher, A. Smith, and Beatty are still around by pick #20 you may not get much. If only Beatty is left……you may get a better offer.
by NorthLeft12 on Apr 16, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I think your concentrating way too much on his sack total and entirely forgetting that he is simply the best run blocking LT in the NFL. I’ll agree he had a bad year for sacks, but you also have to consider who was blocking with him and who he had to block. First he had Derrik Dickery as his LG, and believe me when I say that Dock can’t pass block… at all… ever. Peters did a great job of not only blocking hs guy but Dock’s as well. Second, over half the sacks he gave (i don’t have the actual stat, but I’m pretty sure that it was between 6 or 7 sacks) were on JP Losman. Considering JP only started 2 games and appeared in 5, and only threw about 100 passes, thats a lot of sacks given up by one QB. I’m positive that if Trent Edwards was playing al season long, Peter’s sack total would have been closer to 6. Basicly, you are greatly under valuing Jason Peters and I get that you don’t want to give up a first rounder, but that is what Jason is worth.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Peters is a lost cause
if he does end up signing for some percentage of his current demand, he’ll likely feel justified playing at a similar percentage of effort. I say that OBD should proceed on draft day fulfilling the obvious needs, take a tackle in the 4th round and plan on Chambers being their LT in ’09. Playing an out of shape and disgruntled Peters would be a mistake.
Trade Him!
- This is a good year for tackles in the draft, and for some reason if the Bills can get Andre Smith or even Michael Oher with their pick, and an additional Eagles number-1, then trade Peters. He gave up 11 sacks last year and is overrated.
- Bills are still a few years away from being “serious” playoff contender and they could use that pick on Pettigrew, who I believe will be available when Eagles pick.
- Tired of his act as well, live up to the contract you sign.
- Never see these guy’s giving money back when they have a lousy season!
This is a good year for tackles in the draft,
Thats actually kinda why we’re having trouble trading him. if it was a bad year for tackles, this would be easy.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 15, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Bruce Smith all over?
What if the Bills traded Bruce when he held out? Just a little food for thought.
I’m not sure that is a fair comparison……… Bruce to Peters. Bruce Smith was argueably the best DE in the league. Peters is not even in the top 5 LT’s in the league. It would be like me comparing my Ex-wife to Mother Teresa, no comparison.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67
by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Apr 15, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions

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