Survey Says: Round 2! Fight!
The first round of this year's draft is such a mystery right now I don't really even want to think about it. It seems pretty evident, though... that if Peters is gone, we'll select the best Tackle available. If he's here... who knows? Best defensive playmaker available?
Either way the Bills will be getting an excellent player in the 1st round, so I'm trying to zero in on the 2nd round crop of players. OL, TE, DE, LB, S are positions of considerable need/upgrading, and there are many 2nd round prospects who could step in and make significant contributions as rookies.
But what has everybody obsessed about here since Takeo Spikes fell off the map? We need defensive playmakers. I cherrypicked what I perceived to be the best 2nd round prospects and I want to see where the community stands on them:
James Laurinaitus: the uber-productive MLB could fit nicely at our strongside spot and is certainly a potential upgrade over Keith Ellison. He does well in coverage and has also produced some sacks in his career. About the same value as Poz was in the 2nd. Would be a safe pick, can't go wrong.
Michael Johnson: the not-so-uber-productive DE is a polarizing prospect. Not the type of pick a building team necessarily makes. But hey, go big or go home, right? He could be a sack-master if he would play harder and learn the game. Maybe the least safe pick in the draft.
William Beatty: Buffalo claims to run a zone-blocking scheme... unfortunately, just about all of their OL aren't any good at it. Thus the OL remodeling. This guy would actually FIT that blocking style. Beatty is a very nimble guy that just needs a little longer in the oven and some strength and he could be a steal in this draft. Very similar player to Tony Ugoh.
Max Unger: jack of all trades but master of none? Who cares? He's seamingly mastered the interior of the OL. Another very safe pick, will be a solid starter for a long time... just maybe not a Pro Bowler.
William Moore: my personal favorite. His stock fell solely because of his record-breaking junior campaign. As a senior, the Tigers played the SS much closer to the LOS much more often, which depleted his INT totals. I would recommend a highlight video of him... he's got everything. The size and all the physical tools, he hits like a truck, awesome ball skills, covers well (he was recruited as a CB). He would flourish in the NFL, he faced mostly spread offenses in the Big 12... but I think he would be much more effective against pro offenses. Without a doubt will be a better player than Donte Whitner, and he made a ton of plays in college.
Duke Robinson: I think he's going to be a solid pro. He looks great in game film. He's got size, strength, and talent.... if teams refine his technique he could be a Pro Bowler. Very safe pick, IMO.
Chase Coffman: he can catch anything and runs great routes but he may never be a complete TE. If you want a guy to reliabally get open in the short and intermediate areas.... here's your guy. I think he'd be a better 3rd-4th round value.
Jarron Gilbert: potential, potential, potential. Very gifted athletically.... raw, raw, raw. Reminds me of Kentwan Balmer the way his stock soared. He could be a monster LDE if he was coached and developed well. Risky pick, but could pay-off huge for an NFL franchise someday.
So who do you pull the trigger on if these guys populate your board?
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As each day passes, I become more convinced that we’ll go Ayers in round one and Unger in round two – unless Peters is traded AND Andre Smith is available. My two cents.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
Unger is safe
But Jauron likes those late-round values on the OL. I think he’ll only take Unger if he feels he can start for the team. Otherwise why wouldn’t he just get another developmental guy if he’s not contributing right away? I don’t see any way this staff starts a guy like Unger over Chambers (unless Chambers just totally lays an egg). And regardless of what happens with Peters, someone other than Chambers will more than likely be starting at LT.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah....
I think he’ll only take Unger if he feels he can start for the team.
Unger would start at OG for us. No doubt.
If we get rid of Peters, Chambers has a real chance of starting at OT.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is....
If we have Chambers available to start at G, I seriously doubt any rookie would win that spot from him.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't.
Chambers value lies as a depth player. He can back up most of the spots on the line. While he was acceptable at OG last year, I don’t want him there full time. If we draft Unger we are drafting him to be the opening day starter at OG.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I do think that Unger will be viewed as an immediate starter – otherwise, I’d have voted somewhere else.
Chambers is a valuable commodity, but he’s most valuable in his swing tackle reserve role. If Jauron can keep him in that role, he will.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 14, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i can't really vote on this w/o knowing we got in round one...
i wouldn’t be too upset if we got ayers in round 1 and unger in round 2… although i would like to have maybin in round 1… but if the bills are that high on ayers and feel it’s good value taking him at 11 i’m fine w/ the pick.. the guy is probably more nfl ready than maybin as far as all around game.. pass rushing ability probably not quite as much
Of that group,
I easily like Unger the best. Coffman has great hands but I’d rather get the versatility of Unger and draft a TE later in the draft.
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Unger or Robinson….Line first. thats the way it has to be…
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I will echo the comments about Robinson...
he is like Derrick Dockery version 2.0 I don’t want him on my team.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Unger or Mack then. what about Wood from L-ville? What do people think of him?
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by Stabby Mcshank on Apr 14, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I have liked him for a while.
I don’t know if he is a great guard prospect but he will make some team very happy.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmmm, not reallllly
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
takes plays off, loafs....
I don’t want that. I want UNger who has never taken a play off in his life.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked his combine performence but it seems like he has dropped on peoples list of late. I was just wondering if there was a reason. In my eyes i dont think unger or mack will be there for us in the second. if we are so high on these guys then i know other teams are eyeing them as well. so i think that we might have to get Robinson or Wood. I also think that Eben Britton can be moved to Guard as well. Are there any options in free agancy we could use?
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There are still one or two guards out there I would look at to add to the competition.
But there are no sure starters at the guard spot just hanging out there in free agency right now. That may change at the end of the draft, etc.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone explain to me how Michael Johnson can be considered not-so-uber-productive? I’ve seen him described as unproductive elsewhere, in addition. I don’t get it.
He had 17 TFL’s and 9 sacks this past year. That’s pretty good, and hardly unproductive.
I think I’m starting to warm to Johnson in the late 1st or 2nd round if we don’t address DE at 11….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
He had
nice production…. but a guy with his physical tools should dominate at the college level. He hasn’t produced as much as he should have, so yeah…. not-so-uber-productive is accurate especially in the context of a James Laurinaitus’ production. And besides, he had one DECENT year in college… that doesn’t mean you get to call yourself productive.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s better than Ayers’ production….
I do agree that he could have been more productive, based on his tools, but it’s possible that he’s still learning to play. There are many reasons why some guys aren’t as productive as their physical tools would indicate, and plenty of examples of good pros who overcame that knock.
Of course this all means I shouldn’t knock Ayers, but his production pails in comparison to what Johnson did in his career even….and we aren’t talking about Johnson as a potential #11 pick….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Couldn't you say too
that if Johnson didn’t have a strong D around him, he could easily be double teamed on every down?
I never seen him play, but if one player stands out above all else on the team, then you can take him out of the game. Therefore limiting his statistics. Especialy in the pass rush department.
He sounds like a beastly player, someone with dominant size that can take on the run as well, from all that Ive heard anyhow.
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by killascript on Apr 14, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
GT
always field very good defenses. Didn’t see much of them last year though.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 15, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't there a corner coming out of GT as well
I’m just not sure about them is all. I am not a big College football watcher
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totally with you Kurupt
I would be ecstatic with Michael Johnson in the second round. Hes becoming a dark horse favorite of mine for the pick there.
Guards Brad Butler and Brandon Rodd are decent. - Pete Prisco
Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
William Moore
Is a stiff. Will not be able to cover 1/2 the field as required in 2 deep and is not physical enough to transition to LB
Michael Boulware the 2nd
How
do you pick off 8 passes in 13 games if you can’t cover half the field? And nothing I’ve seen or read about him says he’s stiff. Are you just trying to get me going, because you are dead wrong.
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by ForeignArrow on Apr 14, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s kind of hard to choose a 2nd rounder if we don’t know who the 1st rounder is….I chose Unger since I think we’ll go D in round 1 if we don’t trade Peters….
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
L. Sidbury in the 3rd?
Anyone think this is a possibility? He definitely needs a little time to develop, but if we could get him in the 3rd I would be estatic. Ever notice how OBD always drafts mutliple players at certain positions every draft? 06 mutliple OL and DB, 07 – RB, 08 – CB and WR
09 – DE please!!!
How many years can we go without making the playoffs...eventually the odds go in your favor.........right?!?!?

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