Rumblings Authors Mock, V2.0 - Galliford's Take
The 2009 NFL Draft is one week from tomorrow, Buffalo Bills fans! With that glorious fact in mind, (most of) the editorial staff at Buffalo Rumblings will be bringing you our final versions of our seven-round team mock drafts over the next week. Predicting the NFL Draft is impossible even without a contract squabble hanging over your heads; we're toughing it out. Over the next seven days, you'll have at least one mock from a Rumblings author - but don't worry. We'll have plenty of draft coverage to supplement the mocks as well, including the reveal of the Buffalo Rumblings 2009 NFL Draft Big Board.
Since I run the show (toot!), I'm starting the Authors Mock series off today. Each author was given free license to do the mock however they saw fit; in my case, I've done two - one with trades of Jason Peters and Roscoe Parrish included, and one without. This is going to be long, so bear with me.
MOCK ONE: NO TRADES
We'll get the "boring" mock out of the way first. This is how I believe the draft might unfold for the Bills - not "what I would do," but "what I think the Bills will do." I don't do mock drafts for personal satisfaction or to promote my own beliefs on prospects. This is how I see the Bills making decisions on draft day. (And I feel extremely comfortable predicting that much can and will change over the next week, so don't take this as canon.)
Round 1, Pick 11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
You probably saw this pick coming based on writings over the past week or two. Ayers has soared up draft boards at the right time and is now a lock to be taken in the first round. Ayers will be at, or at a bare minimum near, the top of the Bills' board. I did not project a Peters trade in this mock, but that doesn't mean he's signed; if that's the case and Alabama OT Andre Smith were available, the Bills would undoubtedly seriously consider him, if not pick him. I expect that TE Brandon Pettigrew and LB Clay Matthews will be in the conversations as well, but Ayers seems like the probable choice at this point.
2-42: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
No matter what, the Bills are still in need of a new starting guard. I've been touting Oregon's Max Unger for a while as a possibility, but call this one the first of many gut feelings I'm about to have - I think Levitre will be their pick in round two. The college left tackle is far better suited to play guard at the NFL level, and some scouts think he can play center as well. That versatility is Unger's major selling point, but Levitre might have just as much of it - in a tougher, nastier package. He should start immediately at either left or right guard.
3-75: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
Again, I re-iterate: Peters is not traded in this scenario, but he's not signed, either. That's the worst-case scenario for Buffalo, so they will need to hedge their bets with a high-upside OT prospect in the early rounds that can start in a pinch. Cadogan is that type of player - not an immediate starter, but a possessor of very solid potential. He would compete with Kirk Chambers for the starting LT position while Peters sat at home hoping the team will pay him. (And again, I feel I should mention that this is the worst-case scenario for Buffalo. I don't expect this to happen unless things go very badly on draft day.)
4-110: Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss
It's always difficult to predict what type of linebacker the Bills will pursue - will they take the big-bodied, downhill run defenders or the light-footed, undersized pass defenders? In McRath, they get a little of both - he's a middle linebacker by trade with the athletic chops to man the weak side in a 4-3 scheme. He's been over-hyped a bit in terms of draft status, and it's not a lock that he would be available this late (though he certainly could be). I think he'd be a good fit as a SAM linebacker in Buffalo, though he's not by any means an immediate starter.
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
Buffalo had Irvin in for a pre-draft visit - which doesn't mean a lot, but it doesn't mean nothing, either. At this point in the draft, he would represent solid value - and the team would like to add some competition to kick John McCargo into gear (though that's clearly not a high priority). Irvin is an underrated athlete that's quick in the short area. He can cause some problems as a penetrator. The Bills should seriously consider investing in the long-term future of the DT position with Marcus Stroud on the wrong side of 30, but if they do, it likely won't be too early in the draft.
6-183: John Phillips, TE, Virginia
This is the type of tight end pick that Bills fans would immediately despise. See why it makes sense? Phillips is the type of TE that the team has traditionally preferred - gritty, solid athletically and a good blocker. He would add to the competition at the position, and he and Derek Fine could actually make a pretty solid (if extremely underwhelming) 1-2 punch at the position.
7-220: Greg Toler, CB, St. Paul's
The Bills like their "random DB" picks, and always have. No one had heard of Northwestern State's Terrence McGee in 2003. Nor had anyone a clue about Akron's Reggie Corner last year. Toler is a popular sleeper pick out of St. Paul's, a school that has never had a player drafted into the NFL. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Bills - but Toler's got some solid upside.
There. Boring stuff is out of the way. In my second mock - which appears after the jump - the Bills are getting three extra picks through two trades, and it's shaking up the way they're going about adding players to the roster. Check it out!
MOCK TWO: PETERS, PARRISH TRADED
Before we get into the picks (patience, padawans!), we have to go over the trades involved in this mock.
Peters to Philadelphia: I still believe that the Bills will be able to squeeze a first-round pick out of a team the closer they get to draft day. The Eagles are obviously interested. (But are they more interested in Anquan Boldin?) I have the Bills shipping Peters to Philadelphia for two picks - their second first-rounder, No. 28 overall, and the first of their four fifth-rounders, No. 141 overall. It's time to lay the "first and a third for Peters" dream to rest - the Bills will likely be willing to accept (far?) less than that to get the situation resolved. With the Eagles possessing twelve picks, this is a fair trade in that they pick up Peters while retaining their high first-round pick as well as at least one selection in every round.
Parrish to Tennessee: Buffalo is reportedly seeking a fourth-round pick for Parrish - which isn't an awful lot value-wise to a team as good as the Tennessee Titans. Last year's best regular season team holds ten draft picks - and they're hurting for both a return man (Chris Carr left via free agency for Baltimore) and receiver depth. Parrish has a chance to help them tremendously - can you imagine having to deal with the type of speed that offensive skill players like Parrish and RB Chris Johnson possess? Therefore, I have the Bills shipping Parrish to the Titans for their fourth-round pick, No. 130 overall.
There we go. Peters and Parrish are gone for a first, a fourth, and a fifth. Onto the picks...
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
Surprise! Peters is gone, and the Bills aren't taking an offensive tackle?! It's not the lock that most Bills fans seem to think it would be. There is very little chance that the team could seriously contend for top tackle prospects Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe. That leaves Andre Smith and Michael Oher. The team would obviously prefer Smith, but I sincerely doubt that he makes it out of the top ten. I mentioned in the "boring" mock that I thought Ayers would beat out Pettigrew and Matthews for the pick; Oher is now necessarily a part of the conversation because of the Peters trade, but I still think Ayers beats Oher out. Just a gut feeling. The margin between Ayers and Pettigrew/Matthews is much wider than between Ayers/Oher, based on need alone. I still think Ayers is the pick.
1-28: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
It's fairly obvious that the Bills love Pettigrew. Obviously, OT is still a need, but it's incredibly unlikely that Oher or even the overrated Eben Britton drop this far into round one. The team could reach for UConn's William Beatty, but far more likely, they'd take a guy they like. I firmly believe that if the Bills are able to pick up an extra first-round pick by dealing Peters, Pettigrew will be the target. There's a chance that Pettigrew could slide, but it's also possible (and more likely) that the Bills could swap a pick or two to move back up a few slots and nab Pettigrew. If they were to emerge from round one with Ayers and Pettigrew in tow, even with a hole at LT remaining, I believe the Bills' brass would be ecstatic (and most of the fan base would have fists through monitors).
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
Ladies and gentlemen, your new starting left tackle... at some point. OT is such a critical need at this point that I think the Bills would reach for any guy that they believe has good upside. I wanted to pencil Beatty in here, but I don't think he lasts all the way to No. 42. Again, Cadogan would enter the mix with Kirk Chambers and Demetrius Bell - and Bills fans would worry about the LT position for all eternity. (So would the Bills, in all likelihood.)
3-75: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida
Linebackers typically fall on draft days - which is exactly why I don't see the Bills addressing the position earlier than this spot, and which is exactly why I'm hoping McKenzie lasts this long into the third round. I love this kid - he's active, athletic, and mature. I think he's an instant starter. I wouldn't be disappointed if the Bills considered him in the second round. He's not ever going to be a dominant run defender, but he's good in coverage already, plays hard, and has some solid upside.
4-110: T.J. Lang, G/T, Eastern Michigan
One of the more underrated linemen in the draft, Lang is a stocky, physical run blocker that has the potential to start very early in his career. It's tough to gauge exactly when a small-school prospect like Lang will be picked - he could go as late as the fifth round, or as high as the second, as EMU teammate DL Jason Jones did last year. Lang might start at guard as a rookie in Buffalo, and he'd be excellent value here.
4-130: Courtney Greene, SS, Rutgers
I've believed all along that the Bills would pursue an in-the-box strong safety to complement Donte Whitner's move to free safety. Greene is that type of player - big and physical. He's also a smart player and will be able to help out on special teams. He's got the career outlook of a Bryan Scott - a situational player that won't let you down, but a liability in other areas. That's about as much has they can hope for from a mid-round safety prospect. (Side note: I seriously considered Derek Pegues of Mississippi State here because of his return experience, but two separate legal issues turned me off.)
5-141: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
I had him in my "boring" mock, too, six spots lower than this. See above for an explanation.
5-147: Jerraud Powers, CB, Auburn
I think the Bills will look for a sixth cornerback in this draft. They'll have an easier time getting away with it if they have extra draft picks thanks to a trade. Powers is a small player that will have to play inside as a pro, but he's a quick athlete - and with some polish, he has the potential to grow into a very solid sub-package corner and special teams player. Powers is a bit of a risk-taker, and the Bills could use some of that defensively.
6-183: Henry Melton, DE, Texas
I don't believe that the Bills are looking at this year's draft and thinking "we have to draft two defensive ends." I believe they'll take at least one, but if a player with Melton's raw potential were to be available here in the sixth, I think they'd have a hard time not pulling the trigger. Melton is a superb athletic specimen, and though he hasn't played a lot of end (he started out as a RB at Texas), he's got elite potential - and that potential alone may get him drafted higher than this. If the Bills were to enter training camp with Chris Ellis, Ayers and Melton as the "young guns" at defensive end, I'd say they have a future at the position. Melton's best fit will be as a left end in a 4-3.
7-220: Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee
Versatile, athletic, solid line prospect that has fallen out of favor in most places because of an arrest and his limited upside. Sounds like a solid fit for the Bills as a depth player - and in the seventh round, you're not doing much better than a depth player.
So, to recap...
MOCK ONE: NO TRADES
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
2-42: Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
3-75: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
4-110: Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss
5-147: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
6-183: John Phillips, TE, Virginia
7-220: Greg Toler, CB, St. Paul's
MOCK TWO: PETERS, PARRISH TRADED
1-11: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee
1-28: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
2-42: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
3-75: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida
4-110: T.J. Lang, G/T, Eastern Michigan
4-130: Courtney Greene, SS, Rutgers
5-141: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia
5-147: Jerraud Powers, CB, Auburn
6-183: Henry Melton, DE, Texas
7-220: Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee
I imagine that the few of you that actually read every word of this are gnashing your teeth right now. I imagine that the majority of you that skimmed just to see what the trades were and who was picked are gnashing your teeth and think I'm insane (though the first group is entitled to that opinion as well). It's up to you to decide whether or not your teeth-gnashing makes my guesses more or less accurate. Fire away.
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Brian
Id have to say i read everyword of what you wrote and if the Bills came out with that Draft i would have to say Kiper at the end of Day 1 and 2 would be seeing the Bills had a excellent Draft…. I love the Anthony Parker pick by the way too anytime you can grab SEC’S lineman your doing ok.
You realized Kiper saying we had an excellent draft is the kiss of death?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Kiper knows as much about college players as well as any of the other “experts”, but I think he’s overrated when it comes to predicting how the players will be in the NFL just like every other “expert” is. That’s just my opinion.
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The fact of the matter is that nobody is “good” at predicting this crap. If they were, they’d work for an NFL team.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian’s mock may well be right, especially because it accents defense far more than offense. That’s what the Bills tend to do in the offseason, which is why they haven’t made the playoffs in nine years. If the draft does go down this way, my guess is that we will be looking at a 5-11 season and the end of the Jauron era. Hard to know if that’s a good or bad thing.
We added a WR who will turn 36 during the 2009 season who will be on a one-year contract. T.O. clearly represents some short term help, not a real addition to the offense. We also added a C/G who has been a back-up until now and who many people around the league believe will never be better than a back-up. I’m hopeful about him, but it also seems to me that there were better options for filling the gaping hole in the middle of the o-line (one of the key positions on the team). And we added a journeyman interior o-lineman, again on a one-year deal, who looks like he is going to be about the same as all the mediocre-to-awful FA o-linemen the Bills have signed over the past decade. Yes, three signings on offense, but only one of them (Hangartner) holds any promise of being a true building block for the future, and the jury is still out on him. That’s not much help for an offense that has been truly woeful over the last five years.
who many people around the league believe will never be better than a back-up.
Like who? People I read see him as a really solid addition.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You got WWWAAYYY to much for Roscoe. I still think that we would be lucky to get a 6th.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Why?
He’s much more valuable as a special teamer than many guys are at anything who have brought back much more than a 6th.
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
Agreed, I think Roscoe goes for a 5, but not a 4th
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
Again though, look at how Leo jumped in there and was great. Was it Roscoe and is Leo that much better, or was it Bobby April’s, Mr ST coach of the Year, excellent coach of a great ST unit? I don’t think Roscoe is as good of a returner on another team.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
And if you’re trading him for a sixth, you got WWWAAYYY too little. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Roscoe also has a DUI on his record and always seems to be injured. He has more return yardage in his career then receiving yardage. I just don’t see his value as a WR.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Do you honestly think a team won’t look at Roscoe and say “He had no quarterback and he wasn’t used properly”? I guarantee that at least one team will think that he can play. I realize that they’ll point to the production in their negotiations, which doesn’t help us, but if a team likes him, the Bills will be able to talk him up a bit.
The DUI doesn’t mean much. That was a while back.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well Brian, I read it all and I'm gnashing my teeth
Mostly because I think your more accurate than most of us would like. All the picks make sense with OBD’s mentality… hence why I’m constantly disapointed in them when it come to new rookies.
Personally I don’t think Ayers is worth and 11th pick, and would MUCH prefer Brown if he slips, if not then an OT (I’m not big on Cadogan). I do like the draftings of Pettigrew (even though I don’t think he’ll last that long), McKenzie and Lang.
All together their both descent drats, but I REALLY don’t like Ayers at 11 and really don’t understand why he’srising that quickly or that high.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 17, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions
I’m constantly disapointed in them when it come to new rookies.
“Constantly”? You’re not a fan of Leodis? Poz? Trent? Marshawn? Kyle Williams? We’ve brought in good picks, too…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You just nit picked the best draft picks of the last 5 years (all of which I love btw). Constantly disapoint might have been the wrong words. More like surprise me with picks that come from way out it left feild.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 17, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course I nit-picked – the word “constant” is the reason why. :)
Surprise? Yeah, you’re getting no arguments from me there…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
ok so I just miss chose the wrong words. We can both agree that OBD usually goes for weird picks, although they do pan out a lot of the time… seriously, how many late round picks have we converted/are converting into quality starters. I might not like the way they pick, but I will admit that there is a method to their madness.
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 17, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I would cry if that first one happened. Can you call that the worst case scenario draft?
-Picking the Donte Whitner of DE’s at #11 is a major reach. I really don’t see what makes this guy worth a #11 pick. So he practiced well in the Sr Bowl practices? What did he do during his college career?
-I’m fine w/Levitre, and I don’t know all that much about him.
-Cadogen seems like a good prospect, but if we’re keeping Peters, which I’m assuming here though it may not happen, do we need another project OT to go with Bell?
-McRae, please keep the undersized LB’s away! I don’t mind undersized, quick DE’s, but I don’t want any OLB’s that are undersized. We’ve seen how that’s worked out.
-I’d rather have a bigger DT than a guy like Irvin.
-Bleh to the unathletic, blocking TE type with a very limited upside. This guy isn’t even that great of a blocker, is he? I’d rather go with Eric’s pride and joy, Davin Drew.
Good trades. I still think Peters might bring back slightly more, but I understand that trade being accepted by the Bills. Roscoe to TN makes a lot of sense. I hope we can get a higher pick in the 4th, if possible!
-Again, yuck to Ayers. I’ll say it again, what makes this guy worth such a high pick? Please, OBD, don’t do this to us!
-What happens when Pettigrew isn’t available at 28? What do you do then? I can understand that pick though, and be ok with it. That’s about where he should go, mid 20’s.
-Why would you take Cadogan at #75 before, but #42 here? Why reach? Why wouldn’t you go with the same 2nd-4th round picks? That’s rather confounding to me!
-I’m not big on Greene. He is an all-right prospect, but I don’t see him being an upgrade at the position anytime soon. He just looks like a mediocre NFL safety to me.
-I agree with the 6th CB thing. If we trade Roscoe, I’m looking for one that has return skills, which will be a part of my mock. I don’t know a whole lot about Powers, but he is small, has average athleticism and wasn’t much of a playmaker. That’s why at this point, I’d rather get a guy who can contribute as a returner if possible.
-Based on his athleticism alone, I’d have to guess that Melton goes higher. You mentioned that Melton would be a LDE in the pros, how many of those types do we need? Ayers, Ellis and Melton would all be LDE types, IMO. And none look like anything to get excited about rushing the passer. Shoot me!
I’m gnashing and grinding my teeth thinking about these. I don’t see how we improve all that much, other than depthwise with guys like these. We’ve talked about the need for playmakers and potential superstars. Can anybody honestly say these guys have that look?!?!? It scares me because these are exactly what the Bills will probably do, playing it safe going after lower risk, lower upside players.
I might have to go start listening to some Postal Service or some other depressing band next Sunday…
I’m sure everyone will hate my mocks just as much, haha.
~K
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Why would you take Cadogan at #75 before, but #42 here? Why reach? Why wouldn’t you go with the same 2nd-4th round picks? That’s rather confounding to me!
I wondered this myself. Especially with the Peters trade scenario. If Levitre can start immediately at guard, why not take him so that a veteran can be put next to Cadogan?
You make a solid point. I just think they’d take a tackle. What “veteran” do you speak of? Chambers? Some street free agent? They won’t do that at LT…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Presumably Butler. With Peters gone, taking Levitre gives them Cadogan-Butler-Hangartner-Levitre-Walker, right? If they don’t take Levitre in favor of Cadogan/McKenzie, that still leaves a hole at one of the guard spots, or am I missing something? Can Lang really come in and start?
by Mark Parisi on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
My plan would be to start Chambers, Lang, Hangartner, Butler and Walker. With Bell and Cadogan providing depth.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw Brian, I am loving the love my boy Lang is starting to get
Some places now have him going to Giants in the 3rd…. Hope not, I want him on our team in the 4th!
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Judas Priest, man, you comment… long.
Can you call that the worst case scenario draft?
I believe I did. When I picked Cadogan the first time. Trust me, it’s there.
Cadogen seems like a good prospect, but if we’re keeping Peters, which I’m assuming here though it may not happen, do we need another project OT to go with Bell?
My assumption was that Peters wasn’t traded, but not signed. Hence worst-case-scenario. So I drafted an OT to hedge my bets. Cadogan essentially is the backup LT, Chambers is the starting LT, and Bell takes the “swing guard” spot that should be Kirk’s.
This guy isn’t even that great of a blocker, is he?
Virginia is notorious for producing pro-ready, unspectacular tight ends (with Heath Miller the only possible exception). Yes, Phillips can block.
I’ll say it again, what makes this guy worth such a high pick? Please, OBD, don’t do this to us!
I’ll say this once: Bills fans have a tendency to immediately hate a pick. I refuse to do that with Ayers. How can we possibly begin to guess what type of DE he’ll be as a pro? If he’s the pick, let it play itself out. Question for you specifically, K: do Mike Mayock’s gushings over Ayers mean nothing to you?
What happens when Pettigrew isn’t available at 28? What do you do then?
I tried to make it clear that I didn’t think the Bills would take him at 28. I (tried to say) that he’d be the second first-round target, and they’d trade up a few spots to get him.
Why would you take Cadogan at #75 before, but #42 here?
Again, I tried to explain – I think Cadogan will go in the third round, but in the second scenario, I think the Bills will be desperate enough for an OT after taking Ayers/Pettigrew in the first that they’ll reach. Like I said, I had Beatty, but I just don’t think he’ll be there, and they aren’t trading up twice. I think they’d take their next tackle with the most upside. That’s Cadogan. And the third-to-second jump should be indicative of just how effing crazy these scenarios can get. We need to get Peters’ situation resolved…
I’m not big on Greene. He is an all-right prospect, but I don’t see him being an upgrade at the position anytime soon. He just looks like a mediocre NFL safety to me.
Me too. But he’s basically a fifth-round pick. How much better do you expect?
You mentioned that Melton would be a LDE in the pros, how many of those types do we need? Ayers, Ellis and Melton would all be LDE types, IMO.
Disagree. Ayers and Ellis don’t have the right body build to play LE. They are right end prospects.
I don’t see how we improve all that much, other than depthwise with guys like these.
Job well done to me, then. If it pisses K off, it’s something the Bills would do.
I’m sure everyone will hate my mocks just as much, haha.
I guarantee I’ll be one of those people. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions
do Mike Mayock’s gushings over Ayers mean nothing to you?
That may be one of the reasons why I don’t like Ayers… sorry I’ve just never been a mayock fan
by CanadianBillsFan on Apr 17, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeez
I didn’t need a dissertation in response!!!
I really don’t care that Mayock likes him, nor do I care if anyone else hates him. I just think it’s too early to take a guy who didn’t produce all that much in college. Isn’t the type of DE that he was in college a decent indication of what he’ll be as a pro? Question: why do you think he’s a RE in the pros? He looks plenty big enough for LE, and doesn’t seem quick enough for RE. How is his build not suited for LE?
Yuck. If the Bills are feeling pressured to reach for an OT in round 2 like that, that’s probably not the best way to draft…..
Of course I wouldn’t like it on draft day, but those picks could very well become good pros. I just question whether there’s much upside to most of them, which is why I’m wondering if we’d be much improved, or just deeper.
I think everyone will hate my mocks, just like everyone hates every mock that isn’t theirs.
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Brian, I think Bell is a Tackle pure and simple. If Peters is gone the Bills will be grooming him exclusively for that role, so I don’t believe they will draft an OT this year. Instead they will make sure (I hope!) that they get a starting LG in the draft so that Chambers will be free to play OT this year until Bell is ready.
They need to draft an OT either way.
Now that Peters is gone at best they need a new developmental tackle to replace Bell in that role. At worst they need a new starter.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 18, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Robert Ayers
I’m starting to get sold on Ayers. The more clips I see of the guy, and hear about his story of perseverance,t he more I like. He is NOT OUR PROTOTYPICAL speed rusher, which is why I think most of you DE fans are upset, but he has better power, can stay on the field, and I think in a DE rotation, he can rush up the middle in pass-rushing situations on stunts. He’s more of a Spencer Johnson “type” but way better. We need that speed rusher I still believe. Getting Ayers AND Matthews would be the ideal fit, but that only happens if we pick up Detroit’s 20th pick for Peters which I highly doubt happens. But don’t discount Ayers. In fact, Mike Mayock last night on NFLN, said Ayers is his #1 DE…..I think it’s about 85% sure he’s the pick if no OT’s are available. I just don’t see them taking Pettigrew at #11 with the need for a defensive front 7 player so badly
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Mayock actually has Ayers rated as the third-best prospect in the entire draft. Pettigrew might be fifth or sixth.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Kurupt, if you knew more about Levitre you might not be fine with him. He has a great hand-punch and he does play nasty, but he is basically unathletic and slow. He does fine in a confined space, but he is not good at pulling and trapping. Perhaps he would get to start right away, although I wonder if Chambers would actually be better (and that’s not saying much). It seems to me there are better choices available at pick #42, including C/G’s like Unger and Wood (or Mack if by some miracle he slips that far). I would also go with Urbek over Levitre — he’s a little bit more mobile. The best choice of all, however, might be Jonathan Luigs of Arkansas. He needs a full year in an NFL conditioning program to add lower-body strength, but he’s a great technician, very mobile, and as nasty as they come on the field.
I think you’re underestimating Levitre’s athleticism a bit, though those concerns are definitely there.
I’m with you on Luigs. I think he’s going to be real solid. But I wouldn’t take him before late Round 3 – not an immediate contributor.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
haha doubt it
How accurate are any of these going to be? If anyone’s lucky enough to predict even two picks correctly, I will be surprised.
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You might as well just give us all F’s right now. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
both of those are good drafts that I would be satisfied with
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 17, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions
That… was a surprising comment.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t feel the need to walk toward the ledge either; It does remind me of something the Bills would do.
Not crazy about Ayers. I like Levitre. Need more info on Cadogan. Like both McRath & McKenzie, a lot.
I would sit and stare blankly into the screen if they traded picks to move back up to get Pettigrew. Then I might just drink some bourbon – quickly.
Really?
They both hit high “need” areas with quality players……..while I’ve been a staunch detractor of taking a DE in the first “if” one is gonna be taken then Ayers is a solid choice…..plus they both are picks that focus majorly on the LINES…….which is what I’ve always thought the Bills should do……
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by norcaliangelsfan on Apr 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
New post
My first post here, though I’ve been reading for over a year and I love the blog…
Like many, I’m not a big fan of Ayers. Obviously Peters is the huge variable here, but my dream mock for the Bills, and I’m basing this on my most likely case that he’s traded for #21 straight-up is:
#11): Oher: most likely the best LT available at that position
#21): Pettigrew: Love the guy, and think that he would do more for this team than most people give him credit for
#43): Michael Johnson: A big risk, but big reward. Would give us an immediate pass rush threat, while providing the possible future RDE that we’ll need
3rd Round): Herman Johnson: Probable starter at G and great value for the pick
4th Round): Gerald McGrath: Possible starter at OLB…what more can you ask for as a 4th rounder?
5th Round): Best DT available, Possibly Ricky Jean-Francois (another boom or bust, could be a great find at 5th round)
6th/7th: Best Players Available
I think that this would solve many of Buffalo’s immediate and future weak-spots. What say you?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions
you and I share a vision KCompany
I would be jumping up an down if Pettigrew and Michael Johnson were the picks at #21 and #43. I also like McGrath…
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
even though he's pretty undersized?
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"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
nothing new for us right?
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
With the great needs on the OL and OLB and DE. Please tell me why you would waste the #28 pickon a TE.?????Really what sense does that make. There are enough good TE’s on the board to wait until at least the third round!!
Hmm… think I’ve heard this argument before. Except replace “28” with “11”. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Bills have greater needs in LB and DE and OG LT not mainly in that order than they do at TE. A lot of good TE in the draft. The Bills should be able to wait until at least the 3rd round before drafting a TE. Have been hearing a lot of bad stuff on Johnson, Michael. Seems that he plays up to his abilities only when he feels up to it.
If All the Eagles are Offering for Peters are...
their second 1st-round pick (28th) and one of their 5th’s, I would rather the Bills stratch the 5th and ask for ‘10 3rd-round pick. That pick would likely be in the eighties or early nineties, but I still believe the value of that trumps the 147th overall pick, even if the 5th’s a pick that we can make immediately. And I believe that trading Peters for a 1st and 3rd (even as a 2010 3rd-round pick) is more palatable for the Bills’ fanbase (or might I only speak for myself?) than a 1st and 5th.
FWIW, an ‘09 1st and 5th is quite a bit desirable if it involves pick #21 because A) there’s an outside chance that Oher is still on the board at that juncture, and B) there’s a very strong chance that Pettigrew is still available as well. Otherwise, Pettigrew goes either 21st to the Eagles, 23rd to the Patriots (Ben Watson’s an impending UFA AND mightily struggled in ‘08), or 24th to the Falcons. I really see no chance Pettigrew’s there for the picking at 28.
Moreover, Regarding Trading Peters...
… I really hope we’re not compelled to trade Peters, and in fact I hope that we don’t [trade him] and that the acrimony soon subsides between both sides. But I realize that it’s a distinct possibility- obviously- and that still doesn’t mean we should accept stunted value for a player technically still under contract for two more seasons. And who knows, by the way? If Peters isn’t traded before or during Draft weekend, Eugene Parker (and to some extent, the Bills) may recognize the need to be more conciliatory and agreeable w/his client’s contract issue because the Bills are much less likely to trade Peters during the summer, least of all for prospects they can’t use until the season’s even over.
And I realize that Peters is an unorthodox individual, but it just doesn’t make any rational sense that he would either not demand a penny less than $11.5/12 million per OR stage a perpetual holdout and make no more money in this league and in this sport (or come back in week 10, play poorly for the first few weeks like he did in ‘08, and do nothing to enhance his monetary value but in fact do everything possible to continue to diminish it). Peters isn’t the smartest individual- but isn’t he the least bit pragmatic?
I hope that we don’t [trade him] and that the acrimony soon subsides between both sides.
You might as well hope for a reconciliation between LC and Heidi. Did I say that out loud?
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions
yea i have no idea what he’s talking about?
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
It's best left unmentioned
Lest someone starts bringing up questions of manhood and maturity.
by syrbillsfan on Apr 17, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I’m just glad someone got it.
And no, I do NOT watch The Hills. (Is that what it’s called? Laguna Beach? Is there a difference?)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude you know there is a difference....
don’t start that….
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 17, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
just wow
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Eric and I should have a blogger deathmatch: Hills vs. Hannah Montana style.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
1st pick
Ayers – Noooo
We could gain picks in trade down as it appears Oher and Josh Freeman are moving up the boards. Denver may well be looking for a QB, so we are in the trade up spot.
We could make a bold move upward to get the LT we want.
What happens if Raji slides us at 11?
I do not project trades up or down in my mocks, because there are 32 teams that could be interested in moving up for any of 500 guys. Way too ridiculous to try to predict something like that.
I don’t think the Bills will have a lot of interest in Raji.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
i too think a trade down to allow a team to move up and grab Freeman is a possibility
unfortunately, the most likely team to do that is turning into the Jets and we arent just going to give them Freeman.
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Tampa Bay
IF Sanchez goes at 4 and Stafford at 1, and IF the 49ers pass (which I think they will, gambling on next years bumper crop of much better QBs) we could see a bidding war develop at #11 for us. Yeah, supposedly the Broncos claim to like Orton, but no one really kinows, so the Bucs and Jets could be fighting to get our #11 pick if they don’t get the 49ers #10.
Fun days are ahead!
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
TE position
This is the type of tight end pick that Bills fans would immediately despise.
Count me as Chairperson of this fan group. Why waste even a 6th round pick? I will never understand the Bills’ resistance to getting a stretch-the-field type of TE.
And I will add my serious reservations about using the #11 pick on Ayers. I say if we’re not getting an every down DE there, we should get an every down tight end (Pettigrew).
I've been feeling Buffalo ill.
Ayers is an every-down DE. That’s precisely why the Bills will like him…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Chipshot
You said you wanted a stretch-the-field TE. They say Pettigrew blocks and catches, but not much of a TE to stretch the field. And doesn’t do much after he catches the ball because he is slow and goes to the ground easily. I think we could get a much better (stretch-the-field) TE and we could wait until the 3rd round
Ayers = Flowers
I understand the reasoning behind Ayers in these mocks, but I don’t see the Bills picking him at that spot.
Maybe my memory is off, but didn’t the Bills take Erik Flowers many years back at the end of the first round after a strong post-season (East-West, etc) even though his production in college was average? Ayers feels like that kind of player to me.
They’re different kinds of athletes, but yeah, Flowers came out of left field, too. But production isn’t the end-all, be-all.
For the record, I’m not totally comfortable with Ayers, either. I just think he’ll be the pick.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Q
Brian: Assuming the trades go as you suggest there is a strong likelihood that Pettigrew will not be there at 28. In fact I would say the majority of mock drafts have Pettigrew going in the top 24 picks. If he is not there who would you see the Bills taking at 28 and what do you think about the possibility of acquiring Scheffluer.
At 28 there are a bunch of LB possibilities. Any more info on TBD taking a middle LB and moving Poz outside. I am not in favor of this but just curious.
Well, I think the Bills would target Pettigrew. As I stated above, I think they’d try to sneak up a few spots (possibly up to Atlanta at 24) to get him.
If not, I think they’d take either Clay Matthews or Eben Britton in a heartbeat if either fell. Beyond them, Max Unger would be a possibility. I don’t see them taking a LB there unless Matthews is available.
I do not think they are going to move Posluszny.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Atlanta would cough up the 24th, I think they want Pettigrew too
I think we would need to move up to 23 to get him, and the Eagles might take him at 21, this is gonna be tough to pull off….
If the Bills were a drug, I could only hope they were like speed so I could lose some weight as well.
Do you guys think
its better to draft a safer pick i.e. Matthews or Cushing, even though DE is a greater need? Rather than stretching with Ayers.
I don’t think either of those linebackers are any safer than Ayers, to tell you the truth – which is exactly why I think they’d take the DE.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
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Yes I with you. I think an impact LB like Matthew or Cushing would be a great first pick. Your getting a LB and a good pass rusher with either one of them. Defense wins games. TE’s don’t
6-183: John Phillips, TE, Virginia
I like this pick. Every time I see Jard Cook or Chase Coffman going to the Bills in a mock I cringe.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
Agreed - what a waste of a 2nd round pick
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why?! a pass catching RAC type TE is something we havent had in years.
you must fear change.
by BuffaloChip on Apr 17, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No I fear a TE who can’t block. Fine is the only TE is a competent blocker on the roster right now. If he gets hurt, like last year, then it could hurt the run game a little. There are TEs who can help the passing game without being total clods when trying to block, I’m not sure that Cook and Coffman are those guys.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
I was on board with the pass catching TE idea until the Peters thing blew up again.
Now, a blocking TE is a much greater need.
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I dont know what to say brian.
I trully hope you are wrong? a draft like that (either!!!!) would make me cancel Vtext, ignore the message boards and blogs and prolly skip the preseason all together.
I dont know where to start. so I wont.
I can't believe the Bills are willing to wait until round 3 to get a starting LT
I thought we were in win now mode? I thought we wanted to keep Edwards out of the hospital? Is Pettigrew really worth compromising our O-line for?
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should have said round 2
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Well, it’s not like I’m saying they’d be happy about it. That’s all my opinion, anyways – so you may be completely correct in your disbelief. I just think there’s a chance they’d be patient at that position.
Like I said (twice, I think) above – I think there’s a strong chance that Andre Smith would be their pick in either scenario above should he be available. I’m hoping he is.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I get all that
but in the end, that was your pick for whatever reasons. I hope the Bills don’t do the same.
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The reasons were A) I don’t think Smith will be there, B) I think they’ll like Ayers better than Oher, and C) I don’t see either Britton or Beatty being there at 42.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Man
I hope at the very least Andre Smith, Michael Oher or Robert Ayers is available at #11. If one of them were somehow available AND Freeman is still available, then the Bills are in a win-win scenario I believe. Get “their” guy OR trade out. If all 4 OT’s are gone AND Robert Ayers, any chance the Bills take Orakpo? I love Tyson Jackson personally, but realize he’s not an ideal 4-3 fit. But, man Id love to have that beast on my team. He’d be a great stunt man in the Tampa 2.
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Wouldn;t one of them have to be?
I don’t see all those guys going before 11. Someone has to be picked in the top ten but I don’t see how all those guys plus 7 more gets picked without someone of value falling….
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 17, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A counter offer?
I have been working on this same kind of Mock. It is not done, but after seeing Brians….well I can’t stand waiting to clean it up.
What the Bills will do on Draft Day Mock
- This is what I think the Bills will do, not what I would do if I were GM. Assumes we trade Peters for a 1st round draft pick somewhere before the Falcons at #24.
1st (11) – LT – Michael Oher, Ole Miss – Peter’s replacement. Best LT likely to be left on the board. Any of the LTs’ Brian listed 1-4 will due. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/8/826529/ranking-the-nfl-drafts-offensive
2nd (20ish) – TE – Brandon Pettigrew – God…that hurt to type. Bills like him and he will help improve the blocking on our newly remodeled O-line.
2nd (42) – Center/Guard, Mack, Unger, or Wood in that order. I think the Bills value versatility in their linemen. The Bills will not have a shot at Mack and will be lucky if Wood or Unger are left. Start him at guard and move him to center in a year or two if Hangartner doesn’t perform as expected.
3rd (75) – SS – Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest – K.O. gets knocked out. Whitner moves to FS. Vaughn should be able to earn the starting SS spot by next season. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/13/832306/rumblings-scouting-report-wake
4th (110) – DE – Phillip Hunt, Houston – This guy screams Bills pick. Kid from a small school who has a great motor, attitude, and lots of potential. See K’s scouting report. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/3/25/809611/rumblings-scouting-report
5th (147) – DT – Terrance Knighton ,Temple – I refuse to pin my hope on Big Jon McBusto. Even if McCargo does manage to live up to half his potential, he is not the rock that Knighton is. At 6’ 3" and 321 lbs, he has the "beef" to be the run stuffer we have been missing since the Bills let Pat Williams walk out the door. "Knighton’s large body and fair athleticism is coveted by NFL scouts. The 2008 first-team All-MAC pick contributed heavily as a true freshman (after a post-graduate year at Milford Academy) before earning the starting nod in each of the next three seasons. He averaged 56 tackles, 7.5 for loss and four pass breakups from 2006-2008, while recovering six fumbles and blocking four kicks over the past two years. Teams looking for a one-gap 4-3 nose tackle will be most interested in Knighton." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559908
6th (183) – OLB, Lee Robinson, Alcorn State – "Good height and bulk…Above average athleticism…Decent speed with a burst to close…Does a great job in pursuit…Has a fantastic motor…A good pass rusher…Durable…Hard worker…Team leader…Productive. http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/Lee-Robinson.php
7th (220) – DE, Pannel Egboh, Stanford – He went to Stanford…..how can Jauron resist an Ivy Leaguer? "Legitimate NFL frame. … Well-built athlete with the frame to add an additional 10-15 pounds without significant loss of quickness. … At least adequate initial quickness off the snap. … Uses his long arms well to fend off the blockers and disengage. … Good key-and-diagnose skills. … Team defender who understands his responsibility and fights to keep contain. … Reads the action and has the flexibility to break down in space and make the tackle at the line of scrimmage. … Good strength. … Plays with good leverage despite his height and can push the tackle into the quarterback’s passing lane. … Athletic enough to occasionally be used on the zone blitz. … Four-year starter." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/516974
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I, personally, would love this draft. I really think Oher is going to be the best pro out of this OT class unless Andre gets his butt in gear. I’d be completely satisfied.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks..... Given the Peters situation, I would be satisfied as well.
It is hard to think about a Draft that is likely and would make me really happy. I keep thinking about who we could draft if Peters wasn’t screwing the Bills by simutaniously demanding to be paid as the top LT and lowering his trade value. Peters has really hurt our Draft :-(
"Get ready for the pain women…the pain train is coming Whooo Whooooo !!!!!" – Terry Tate Office Linebacker
Yeah… ain’t that the truth.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Joe P.‘s scenario better — if we trade Peters, I think we have to take the best available OT at 11 (Smith or Oher); or at least Britton or Beatty with the 28th pick. Brian, what about switching Pettigrew and Cadogan in your mock to Britton and Ingram/Cook (I’d also go with Brown/Maybin over Ayers). I just like giving the most important position a high enough draft to hopefully get a franchise player (Smith/Oher), plus a receiving TE (along with our blocker – Fine).
Brian, what about switching Pettigrew and Cadogan in your mock to Britton and Ingram/Cook (I’d also go with Brown/Maybin over Ayers).
I, personally, wouldn’t mind it terribly. I doubt that’s the direction the Bills would take.
As for switching OT/TE, obviously it would be a consideration with the hole at OT opened up.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take that.
I’m thoroughly convinced that we take a LT @ 11 if any of the top 4 OTs are left. we then pund the phones and trade off the malcontent. I think pick 28 is not good enough, though a player for player trade at a later date may happen as well. If we move parrish, 2 fourths can get us back into the third.
by BuffaloChip on Apr 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d be completely satisfied.
THat’s what she said…. it never gets old!
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 17, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My preference in this scenario
11 – Oher
20ish – Barwin
42 – Mack/Unger/Wood
75 – McKenzie
110 – Ingram or best TE available
Fills holes at LT, LG, LB, TE and DE. Joe P.‘s doesn’t really address our pash rush until the 4th round or our hole at LB.
True, but the Bills only have so many picks
With two rookies likely to start on the O-line, we need another blocking TE. We have Schobel (gulp) coming back from injury and Ellis (fingers crossed) ready to step in and make an impact. Bowen is also coming off injury and will add depth at the very least. I would love it if we could get fair value (more picks) for Peters, but it seems most likely the Bills just want to dump him and move on. I would not be surprised if all we get is a mid first rounder for him
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wow Joe
You might actually like my mock
~K
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Could be......when will it come out?
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K’s will be Tuesday. We’re doing some shuffling after the Peters trade…
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
well Brian
I’d be lying if I said I was happy with the Ayers pick
I’d be lying if I said I was happy with Cadogan at #43. (I have no problem taking him in the third like you did in your “no trades” mock)
I’d be lying if I said I was happy waiting until the 4th to get an interior lineman.
But other than that, good mock! haha!
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Brandon Rodd!! Our best player.
In other words, all of your picks suck, but good job!
The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.
haha!
exactly!
Sadly, I can’t blame Brian for the Ayers pick. He is starting to look like the pick but I would hope that Oher beats him out at #11.
Cadogan at #43? There is no need for such an unnecessary reach! If you don’t want to wait until round 3 to take an OT than why not go Phil Loadholt from Oklahoma? I also think Eben Britton is a late 1st- early 2nd rounder but that William Beatty is a 2nd rounder all the way. He could very well be there also. Regardless, I think Loadholt is definitely there. If you project Loadholt as becoming an NFL RT, which some do, then just wait until the third for Cadogan. Heck, Cadogan could be there in the 4th, I just don’t like the idea that the Bills brass thinks that reaching a full round or more for a player, no matter how bad you need him, is ever a good idea.
There is just so much fine talent at guard this year that waiting until the fourth to get one would really be missing the boat. Urbik, Robinson, Unger, Mack, Levitre, Herman Johnson, Wood, Luigs, Caldwell. All will be there between 1-3. We should grab one.
Like I said, other than that, good mock! haha!
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I personally don't think Loadholt makes it out of the second round.
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by MattRichWarren on Apr 17, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Another Trade
I really, really love the idea of trading down from 11 to the late teens to a team that wants Sanchez ahead of Denver. Then, I think the Ayers pick in the high teens would make more sense. At 11, we can’t just consider team fit/need — value (to other teams) is a factor.

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